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Reds Trade Reactions: Why not more for Todd Frazier?

Taking a look at what the various experts and prognosticators had to say about the Reds blockbuster trade.

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It's been just over 24 hours since the Reds cashed in arguably their biggest trade piece, sending Todd Frazier to the White Sox to facilitate the Dodgers getting Sox prospects so that LA could send the Reds Jose Peraza, Scott Schebler, and Brandon Dixon.

We've said plenty about it here at Red Reporter. Let's take a look around and see what everybody else is saying about it.

Grant Brisbee over at the Mothership broke down the trade for each of the teams and, in general, felt pretty okay about it from Cincinnati's point of view:

It's the move they had to make. The Chicago Cubs, Pittsburgh Pirates and St. Louis Cardinals are at the top of the division, setting each other on fire. Even if the Reds were dripping with money, which they aren't, there still wasn't a way they could spend their way into contention. Even if the Reds were spawning prospects like tribbles, which they aren't, there still wasn't a way they could deal their way into contention. Too many holes, too many question marks on the 25- and 40-man rosters. No, the traditional rebuild was the only way.

In all, Brisbee is pretty high on Peraza, though he recognizes that the haul may be a bit underwhelming for the Reds. He praises the White Sox for making the move, encouraging them not to waste All-World pitcher Chris Sale's years with the club. He's more skeptical of the Dodgers, but admits that sliding Frankie Montas's value in for Jose Peraza's value probably doesn't move the needle toward a Jose Fernandez trade.

But, I suppose you never count out the Dodgers, who have to be feeling desperate after losing Zack Greinke, missing out on David Price and Johnny Cueto, and watching their long speculated deal with Hisashi Iwakuma come unraveled at the seams.

Meanwhile, over, Jonathon Mayo does some breakdown of all the prospects involved in the deal. Mayo, too, isn't all that down on the Reds haul, though he, too, wonders if maybe the Reds shouldn't have just taken the players the Chi Sox had to offer.

This is the point where trying to understand the trade from the Reds' point of view gets a little shaky. No one would argue that Dixon is a better prospect than Montas. Even if it's believed Montas will be a reliever only in the future, surely he has more value than Dixon, a utility type who isn't on the Reds' Top 30 Prospects list following the trade. Especially if the Reds deal Aroldis Chapman -- and they are still actively working on that -- a potential short reliever would be welcomed, it would seem.

C. Trent Rosecrans is someone that is employed the Cincinnati Enquirer that actually says smart things, and he had a fantastic analysis of how this was a move the Reds absolutely had to make, regardless of how much it hurts in the short term.

There weren't many good things to remember from the Reds' 2015 season, but Frazier's magical night in the Home Run Derby at Great American Ball Park was one of them. If there had been any doubt at that point that he was the face of the franchise, it was cemented then.

And now he's a member of the White Sox. It's sad for many, maddening to some and disappointing to most.

But it had to happen.

The Reds lost 98 games with Frazier last season, and they are perfectly capable of losing that many without him each of the next two years he is under team control.

Some other stooge at the Enquirer had a different/wrong/silly take that I wouldn't link to in a million years, just know that it exists and it is very, very wrong and silly. And, I even said it using my real name.

If you have ESPN Insider, you can click here to read Keith Law's take on the trade, but based on the headline, he doesn't like it.

Our friends over at South Side Sox go over the good, bad, and potentially ugly of the Todd Frazier acquisition in this piece. It's good to know that every baseball team has a very vocal minority (I'm going to chose to believe it's a minority) that is just 100% skeptical of everything the team does no matter what it is that's been done. Makes me feel better about the fans of my favorite team.

Here's True Blue LA's article, but they don't get into much editorializing. Though, I'm sure the comment section would be a good place to mosey to to figure out how Dodgers fans felt about Peraza.

Finally, Behind the Box Score also took their swing at the trade, and they're not really fans of it from the Reds perspective.

Yet that's not the package you want to get for a star player. Frazier is an impact third baseman and may have been the most popular Red this side of Joey Votto. It's almost as if the Dodgers inserted themselves into the deal, stole the prospect package that the Reds received as it was en route to Cincinnati, and shipped the Reds the Peraza package in its stead. It's a mystifying deal for Cincinnati. Between this and possibly hiding the Aroldis Chapman incident from the Dodgers, their front office has had quite an offseason.

Personally, I think *mystifying* is a bit steep, but to each their own.

As mentioned in that article, former Reds GM and leatherpants wearer Jim Bowden hears it's a bad deal and thinks the Reds got fleeced, himself.

So, everything should turn out just fine.