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Spring Training Game Thread: Reds vs. Jays

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7 o'clock game, on FSN. This might be Homer's last chance to earn a spot in the opening day rotation. Let's see if he rises to the occasion.

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reds vs. jays my friend
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Mar 24, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

really i just felt left out
of the spring training picture madness. i had to do something.
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Mar 24, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got it
Thought it was clever even.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm here
And although it's not Thirsty Thursday, I'm having some Bud Light. Enjoy the retarded comments that are sure to come.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

ALS alert
I had forgotten that TOR had gotten Eckstein. Screw him and his puntiness.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

ALS Eckstein
really?
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Mar 24, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sickness
The catchers have all been making out with each other.  Now they all have the sickness.

Chris Kroski makes me wanna jumpski jumpski.

Don't talk back to Darth Vader or he'll getcha!

by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are on the day i leave to return to ONU
FUCK ONU CABLE!
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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Why ST stats don't matter
Buck Coats is hitting .409 this spring. The prosecution rests, your honor.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't remember seeing it....
before last year, but yeah. It's always sucked that bad. If I could figure out a way to get the Newbees to be lured into a snuff film setup via farmersonly.com, I'd die a happy man.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry
I just can't like Patterson. I don't care what he hits, how well he plays or how many bases he steals. He's impeding Bruce and turning Freel into an overpaid scrub. Not to mention his signing has terrified me that The Neifi Not To Be Named will end up in a Reds uniform before it's all said and done.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess he'll bat leadoff against righties
Central's gots lots of dem
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

scott rolen's hurt
drink
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

gameday sez
there was a coaching visit to the mound at the beginning of the second inning.

Anyone know why?

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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Homer looks like hes completely
under control. I haven't felt like ive seen that.

by The Crushinator on Mar 24, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Good god
Are they working with the same set of spots from last year? How long until we hear about fully boxed frames?

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know
but I've got pictures of a fully framed box if you want to see them.
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by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The tool belt
gets more impressive every season.
This situation reminds me of a scene in the movie "New Jack City"... (-Deion Sanders)

by satyanaas on Mar 24, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

the spicy baconator walks the walk
just so you know
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

So, what if?
What if Bailey looks dominant tonight.  2 pretty good innings so far, it seems.  What happens?
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by TheC on Mar 24, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhhhhhh-
the spice of life
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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this kind of problem.
Examples of problems I do not like (hypothetically speaking):
  1.  Castro or Clayton to start at SS?
  2.  What should we do with Corey Patterson now that he's signed?
  3.  Who is the least bad fifth starter among Bobby Livingston, Eric Milton, Tom Shearn, Phil Dumatrait and Kirk Saarlooser?
  4.  There are two men on base in the bottom of the 7th, and the Reds are only down by one run.  Which reliever do you put in?  Mike Stanton, Rheal Cormier, Todd Coffey, Victor Santos, Gary McJeffsky or Ricky Stone?
  5.  In a tie game in the bottom of the 16th inning, the other team has men on first and second with no one out, and you have Ryan Howard at the plate.  Do you intentionally walk him?
As I said, this is a high-class problem.
At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Mar 24, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem
going with all three youngsters in the rotation. Let Fogg go and eat the mil.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh
His velocity and control look good, but his fastball is pretty straight. Looks very hittable.
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.. I was just going to say
.... nevermind my what if.
Quick! Somebody make a Cincinnati loves Ken Griffey Jr. too! video

by TheC on Mar 24, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

As you watch that Dunn homer
remember that the lead off position gets about 45 more at bats a year than the 5 hole hitter.

Why wouldn't get this guy a guaranteed first inning at bat?

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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh man.
I didn't know this game was being televised. I was watching a friggin' NIT game.  Geez, does anyone know where a Reds fan can get some reliable information on the internet?

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Silly goose.
Here, of course.

There's this guy who posts there named Michael.  He really knows a lot.

At least it wasn't Grady Little.

by Paul Householder on Mar 24, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homer walks 8 and 9
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad toss
He half assed the toss to 2B, IMO.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

totally agree
I thought BP did have to rush that throw, Welsh.
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that great hatteberg defense
which is why he is so superior to Votto.
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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

i love chris kroski
deal that ALS some spikes
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Mar 24, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

he goes in
with the approbation of millions of baseball fans
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah
I like it. Spike that little SOB. :)

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Officially
it's an unearned run-

but when you walk the 8 and 9 batters, maybe they should count it as an earned run.  It's certainly more his fault than anyone else.

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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

For some reason
I'm still not sold on Kepp, but damned if he doesn't just keep hitting.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to go Kepp!
He's got me hook, line, and sinker! (but I'm easy)
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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kepp really does have a nice swing
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

too bad
they won't switch bp to short and name kepp the starting 2b
2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a related note
in the two games i've seen, BP's swing is still huge. He was way off balance in his first AB.
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll use him
to start at third!
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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree
Don't fuck up a good thing I say. Not to mention that Kepp is infinitely more tradeable that Sea Bass.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another
lead off walk
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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

back to back
belly to belly
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I wish
I could coast on my early defensive prowess in IM Softball the way MLB defenders can coast on theirs
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

"IM Softball"
is a pretty good name for what we do here many nights.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Derek Jeter is
a) the best baseball player.
b) the handsomest baseball player.
c) down for any type of 'mo.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he responds
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

closer!
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by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

His numbers look hittable this Spring
but you gotta love the 7 strikeouts and no walks.  That's a step in the right direction.
Don't talk back to Darth Vader or he'll getcha!

by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Observation
Does George Grande ever talk about anyone who isn't old and sick?
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

stormy is my favorite pen guy
it's amazing what meeting a guy can do to your image of him.  he's really nice.  and he hasn't said a bad word about losing the closer's job.  i root for him.
2008 NL Central Champs!

by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

6 walks in 4 1/3 innings... uggh!
That won't fly.  This kid needs to go down south and grow up a little.  Maybe Kevin Costner is available to catch at Lousiville for the season until the kid is ready.
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by TheC on Mar 24, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

second bull durham reference tonight
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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite Tim Robbins movies, anyone?
I always liked Jacob's Ladder though I haven't seen it awhile so I'm not sure how it's aged.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

about as well as Susan Sarandon
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shawshank
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by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does High Fidelity count?
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by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.
But then I guess we've gotta also count Top Gun.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that's the case
Then Howard the Duck.
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by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never saw it.
But I once found a vinyl copy of the soundtrack at a flea market.

Thomas Dolby + George Clinton + Lea Thompson = vinyl at a flea market

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an HBO staple
during my formative years.

Pretty much everything that is wrong about me starts there.

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by Slyde on Mar 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

SIKE
choke oh that hatterberg.

by The Crushinator on Mar 24, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

he absolutely drilled that ball
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't remember every hearing coffey speak
he sounds funny.  not like what i expected.  his voice is higher pitched than it seems like it should be.

anyway, i wish the guy well.  he worked his ass off literally, so you can tell he really wants to do well.  it'd be nice if he finally reached his potential.

now, if we could only get rid of stinkton...

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by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

nice crowd tonight
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I am awful at picking up pitchers mechanics
and as my few little league innigns will tell you, awful at repeating them...

I also have no TV in this hell otherwise known as Ada, OH.

Was Homer Bailey strugling to repeat himself>  He sailed right through the first two innings, and he lost his control after that.

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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say he sailed through
the first 2 innings. His command was better, but his fastball looked pretty hittable to me.

Welsh talked a lot about Homer needing to shorten his stride a little (a la Harang). I'm not sure what I think about that, necessarily, but there is something about his delivery that I've noticed in both starts I've seen this Spring:

Homer's delivery gives hitters a rather long look at the pitch as it comes out of his hand. It was especially evident with Burton following Homer tonight. Burton's first fastball was about 5 mph slower than Homer's, but it seemed to "get on" the hitter more quickly i.e., I think he "hides" his pitch longer in his delivery to the plate than does Homer.

We've heard rumors last season and this Sping about Homer tipping his pitches. I wonder if part of this problem is pitch recognition with his release as well as something in his delivery.

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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

so he pitched a little worse than his box score
over the first 2 innings?   I was quite pleased to see no walks, the first time I checked, it feel apart shortly after.  
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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

why can't we keep both coffey and bray?
i hate when they talk about mercker and lincoln with coffey and bray in that last spot.
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by Daedalus on Mar 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope you're talking about valaika
because if hairston goes north i will flip my shit
suggestions, anyone?

by BobbyO on Mar 24, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's the score?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Mar 24, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

5-1
Reds
Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Mar 24, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

La Machina
giving some Love to Cueto

or Volquez.

No es claro.

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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

dunno
everything was up. Came close to walking 3 batters in a row. I suppose it's cold enough down there that he could have been very tight.
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by Man Mountain on Mar 24, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hasn't impressed..
..and Stanton and Affeldt are making guaranteed millions.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we have to keep Affeldt?
Does anyone here even want him in the bullpen?  We signed him for too much to just cut him, didn't we?
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by TheC on Mar 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes
He makes too much money, he's staying, methinks.

by jch24 on Mar 24, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had a decent season working in relief last year
if he is the 4th or 5th man out of the bullpen behind Corderro, Weathers, and hopefully Burton, he will be useful.  

Anyone cautiosly optomistic that Coffey will bounce back?  I would like to think he could return to the pitcher he was in 2006 before he was promoted to the closers role.  He couldn't have just lost it completely the way he did.  

He threw in 81 games in 2006.  Could last year have been a carry over effect.  He was being used almost every other day.  That can really tax a pitcher after a period of time.

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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really have any reason to believe this
but right now I'm feeling cautiously optimistic about Coffey.  I think he'll be productive this season.  Maybe because he lost weight, maybe because his spring has been pretty solid.  I was ready to give up on him last season, but spring brings with it hope.  Right now, I'm feeling good about Coffey.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 24, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You probably voted for Hillary.
C'mon man, how about some wholesale change.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the other choice is Mercker
And he's even less of a change.

I suppose Lincoln's in the running (nominally), but I can't support him because Lincoln was a Republican.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 24, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

would that make Mercker John McCain?
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by justin0070000 on Mar 24, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Lincoln was Republican...
..back before Republicans were all selfish homophobes.

Hell, gay wasn't even invented until about twenty five years after FDR put everyone on welfare.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 24, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lincoln was a log cabin Republican
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by justin0070000 on Mar 25, 2008 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep
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by justin0070000 on Mar 25, 2008 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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