Tonight's Lineup (Reyes vs. Arroyo)

by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 6:32 PM EDT Comment 129 comments

REDS

Hamilton CF
Gonzalez SS
Griffey RF
Phillips 2B
Dunn LF
Encarnacion 3B
Votto 1B
Valentin C
Arroyo P

CARDS

Eckstein SS
Ankiel RF
Pujols 1B
Edmonds CF
Ludwick LF
Molina C
Branyan 3B
Reyes P
Miles 2B

Trent reports that Kirk Saarloos will start on Saturday.

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Saarloos on Sunday?

Why not Stanton, while we're at it? Well, at least it's not Dumatrait.

Bombs away!

My karma just ran over your dogma

by Lonesome George on Sep 12, 2007 6:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dumatrait is still listed to pitch Friday

that could change.

by justin0070000 on Sep 12, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Funniest reaction...

...to the news that Saarloos was pitching Saturday.

"Who's pitching the second inning?"

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First!

by justin0070000 on Sep 12, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yay! Go Reds!

What'cha gonna do, Red Reporters, when Brennamania runs wild on you?

by chandrathan on Sep 12, 2007 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

GO RED'S WIN REDS KICK 'EM IN THE JUNK!

by justin0070000 on Sep 12, 2007 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why does mlb.tv sometimes only broadcast the 700k

premium?

I paid 15 freaking dollars to watch "every game". WHY CAN'T I WATCH THIS GAME?

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 12, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm watching the 400k regular

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

grr, i dunno why it's not working then...

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 12, 2007 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, ha, it totally works now

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 12, 2007 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice line up tonight.

I see LaLoser is still batting the pitcher 8th. Tony 's a crackhead.

Time for a bigtime Run at the bigtime

by Madville on Sep 12, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

generally the worst hitter bat's 8th, and the 9th spot is used as almost a second lead off spot. There is a website that generates lineups based on OPS, and tells the user what batting order should create the most runs. The pitchers almost always bat 8th. Of course in the NL the advantage of the pitcher batting 9th is, he has less at bats, and the difference between 8th and 9th in the order, could decide mean removing teh pitcher an inning earlier for a pinch hitter.

by justin0070000 on Sep 12, 2007 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

...people are always saying they want a manager who is willing to think outside the box.

The stat-heads say that your worst hitter should hit eighth, not ninth, to maximize run production. So it's not like he's pulling this out of thin air. I'm kind of impressed that he'd be willing to do it, because most managers wouldn't, no matter what the stats say.

But can you imagine what the guy batting after the pitcher must have thought, the first time he saw the lineup?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LaRussa is a profesional manager

he probably talked to that guy personally. Say what you want about LaRussa but he has succedded for a long time. Part of being a sucessful manager is being able to handle your players.

by justin0070000 on Sep 12, 2007 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep he is a successful manager

despite the fact that i think he sucks the soul out of the game.

Time for a bigtime Run at the bigtime

by Madville on Sep 12, 2007 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I blame steroids

LaRussa's winning percentage is enhanced by PEDs. Too many of the guys that have been tainted by the 'roids allegations have played under him. Too many for it to not merit some kind of investigation anyway.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 12, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When was the last time anyone

has actually seen LaLoser laugh? There was a supposed sighting in 1991 and again in 2002. He's kind a ghoulish. Mabye Tony's the 'roid man...the go to guy.

By the way Pete talks to his players too..but that doesn't make him a great manager.

Time for a bigtime Run at the bigtime

by Madville on Sep 13, 2007 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that sucked

8 and 9 hitters lead off the inning by getting on base and no run scored. ugh

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

AFLAC trivia

last Reds player to lead the NL in RBI in a season?

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My guess is Foster

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Aflac!

Last Red to lead the league in RBI for a season.

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'll still say Foster

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thom's talking about Dave Parker's '85

saying he should have won the MVP. I think Parker did lead the league in RBI that year.

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2007 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I feel like it may have been Greg Vaughn

by justin0070000 on Sep 12, 2007 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1999 NL rbi leaders

McGwire-STL    147
Williams-ARI    142
Sosa-CHC    141
Bichette-COL    133
Guerrero-MON    131
Bagwell-HOU    126
Piazza-NYM    124
Ventura-NYM    120
Vaughn-CIN    118

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

vaughn

was a guy I really wanted to see stay around for another year or two

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

mmm... Bichette 133...

Imagine if we plug that production into the Reds lineup!

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2007 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol yep

of course we did in 2000 and he dropped off quite a bit

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Willie McGee won the MVP

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

'85 MVP vote

That was Parker's big bounceback year following his coke-induced slump from 80-84. He's complained for years that he should have won, which has clearly reached the ear of Thom. In some ways it's surprising he didn't--first in RBI, fifth in batting, second in hits, first in doubles, second in home runs.

On the other hand he played corner outfield and his defense wasn't what it was. McGee led the league in average (and in singles), stole 56 bases at 77% and played gold glove centerfield. It's an interesting case. McGee's team won, but was loaded. Parker carried a weaker Reds team to Almostland. Cobra stole 5 bases and was thrown out 13 times and was only fifth in the league in OPS+ (this had nothing to do with the voting but we can appreciate it now). Most likely the voters were punishing him for his drug years.

Dwight Gooden, who finished 4th in '85 also had a pretty good case: 24-4 277 IP 268 K 1.53 0.97.

Besides '85 and his '78 MVP win, Parker's next best MVP campaigns were thrwarted by Reds. He finished 3rd to Morgan in '75 and 3rd to Foster in '78.

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2007 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think 85

was a clear case of the pennant putting someone over the top. And of course the writers can punish players for previous sins when ever they want.

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kepp's in

Looks like A-Gon pulled a hammy or something.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

he was running funny on the dp ball

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AFLAC trivia amswer

Dave Parker in 1985 with 125 rbi

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BP!

29-29!

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

30-30 here he comes!!

standing at 29-29 right now. i know some people think it is a kind of meaningless stat but I think it is pretty impressive.

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

EdE owns Reyes

4 for 6 with 4 home runs. wow

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's my boy.

Edwin, not Reyes.

That thing was crushed.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Still not good enough.

Send him to AAA.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Squeakie toys

Did anyone see what the squeakie toys they gave out look like?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

talk like a Pirate night is one week from tonight

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yikes

Yikes. First A-Gon, now Hamilton.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any idea...

What it might be?

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trent says

he thinks it's the hamstring. He's been struggling with it for a couple of weeks now.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He has been in and out

With the hammy problem. Did he hurt it visibly?

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

It looked really bad, actually. He couldn't put any weight on it. Hopped off the field, visibly in pain.

The announcers thought it was his ankle or knee, but Trent thinks it's the hammy again.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marty just called the TV broadcast

to sing Happy Birthday to Thom. I've given Marty some crap this year which I still feel is deserved, but this was a very nice moment.

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Evening

How we lookin?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BA was looking good

until this inning

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hamilton

that to me is scary. Reminds me of Jim Maloney against the Dodgers in 1970

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shit.

I show up...

Hobbs gets hurt...

Arroyo starts giving up runs...

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

nice dp to get out of it

hang around

Just noticed Votto is wearing #19. Good Reds number

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you run Phillips here for #30?

Molina is pretty tough

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

woo hoo

#30

29-30

wonder what he said to Pujols when he reached first. What ever it was he wasn't smiling

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK.

Without checking BR or whatever, who leads the Reds in GIDP?

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

griffey would be my guess

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or Ross

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

Griffey has half as many as the team leader (24).

Ross doesn't make enough contact to GIDP.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Check above (or below, depending on your settings)

I ventured a guess, but didn't [Reply to this]

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bingo.

It's BP. For all the abuse he takes for being slow and stupid, Dunn only has 11.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't the same thing true last year?

except adam had even fewer gidps?

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by andromache on Sep 12, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Worth noting...

This season's 11 is Dunn's career high. His previous worst was 8.

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dunner

Triple digit RBI??? That can't be right. He's not a "run producer." I mean, come on. He has 155 strikeouts!!! Am I right?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, the fact that

BP did not score on that single (and therefore generate an RBI for Dunn) proves that Dunn just does not know how to produce runs.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

non clutch hitting

the ball right at someone.

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

29-30 for BP.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

29-30

I think I'd give up Jeff Stevens for him again. Maybe.

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it would be a tough call

but I'd probably still do it

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing Phillips

Contact guy who swings at everything. He's got some speed, but that's still a recipe for grounding into lots of DP's.

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That....

was meant to be a response to PH's question regarding the Reds' leader in Double Plays.

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What was the Dp answer?

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

BP

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

That was interesting. I think hell would freeze over before Torre did that.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

what did Torre do?

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing

I meant hell would freeze over before Torre did what Mackanin just did. Send the not-terribly-speedy runners with one out.

Torre never does stuff like that. Until he's totally desperate (game 5 of the playoffs). Then he tries a hit and run or squeeze, with guys who haven't done it since Little League. Arrgh.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably not a bad move here

To pinch hit for Arroyo. He seemed to be losing it last inning.

Jorge can't hit, though.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cantu!

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

Can't. Not this time.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And neither could Hopper.

But his name isn't as cool.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Caleb

You psyched for Heroes in 2 weeks?

And Menace, I know you're fired up for "It's Always Sunny" tomorrow.

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by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes I am

looking forward to it a lot.

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah

They've had a preview episode of Sunny up on the show's Myspace page. I'm expecting it to bounce back from a weaker second season.

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Branyan was mad at his bat.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Surprisingly,

with all of the baseball that I've seen, I've never seen anyone break their bat over their leg before. Well, live anyway.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone have video of

Glenn Braggs breaking his bat over his back on a swing and miss? I've heard he had done that, but I've never seen it.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lend me $20 and I'll get it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WORLD-SERIES-FILMS-1975-1976-1990-DVD-Cincinnati-Reds_W0QQitemZ130151878745QQihZ 003QQcategoryZ25133QQcmdZViewItem

I'm a numbers freak, numbers freak. I'm numbers freaky, ow.

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

bad bat

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mike F Stanton

He would look better with a mullet, a forty, and a Def Leppard tanktop with 20 year old sweat stains while swooning a leatherfaced used up dyed blonde groupie whore at Talladega while replacing the wishbone C with a stupid ass NASCAR number on his hat.

That is all.

by buckeye22fox on Sep 12, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lmao

now that is funny right there

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Miggy Cairo

The best .240 hitter in baseball.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

this was the night I picked back in April

that Jr would hit #600

Looks like that is going to be a contest for next season

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

go 30/30 on him right now

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If the pitches

Were anywhere near where ESPN Gamecast was putting them, he would have needed a five-iron to hit them.

He probably was pressing...

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why Burton now?

Why not at least try Coffey or McBeth?

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

woo hoo

gassed him for strike 3

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

holy crap that was a bomb

but way foul

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

that crossed out of the stadium even with the top

deck

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

umps must have a 10:30 flight

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

injury report

From MLB.com:

Reds center fielder Josh Hamilton exited early from Wednesday's game vs. the Cardinals with a strained right hamstring.
Hamilton ran out a ground ball to third base leading off the fifth inning, then limped and hobbled to the dugout after touching first base. He was examined by the trainers in the Reds' dugout after the play.
...The 26-year-old Hamilton has been bothered by the sore hamstring for the past few weeks and he missed two starts over the weekend because of it. The Reds said he would be examined again on Thursday.
Hamilton, the former overall No. 1 Draft pick of the Devil Rays in 1999, is playing in his rookie season after a nearly four-year layoff because of drug abuse issues. Health problems, ranging from a stomach ailment to a sprained wrist, have put him on the disabled list for extended stints already this season.
The Reds also lost Alex Gonzalez to a sore left knee during the game. Gonzalez exited before the fourth inning and was replaced by Jeff Keppinger.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

shut him down

and call it a good year. Well done Josh

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shut Gonzo down also

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gonzalez has to be mentally exhausted

with all the family issues this year he has had.

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

While you're at it....

Shut down Stanton, Guardado, Dumatrait, Ellison and Coffey.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

they shut themselves down
Coffey is the only one I'd bring back next season

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Maybe Buck Coats will finally get his chance!

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by BubbaFan on Sep 12, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Him too.

Forgot about him.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yup, Chris...

Edwin had a great two-month stretch last season too - that Keppinger's doing as well.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

3 guys for 2 spots next season

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, you know where I stand.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

EdE and kep?

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm am very pro-Edwin

and since Edwin apparently isn't motivated without Keppinger on the team, I'll take him too. ;)

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm am? Yeah. I'm am.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

EdE really turned it around

this year. But i still think his future is across the infield.

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean, as in

Edwin at first, Votto in left?

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why?

he's getting much better at 3B. He's definitely improved over last season.

I'm a numbers freak, numbers freak. I'm numbers freaky, ow.

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he really has

my observation has been that if he doesn't have to think on a play he is fine. And maybe he will keep developing into an above average 3rd baseman.

As for Dunn, I don't know what to do there. I want to keep him but then you have Votto and Bruce also

and we still need some pitching

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by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What to do with Dunn

This is real easy....

Start Bruce in AAA, bring him up as an injury fill-in when Griffey or Hamilton finds the DL. Wherever he's at, you have to get him AB's, and you can get him 250-300 of them in The Show that way without burning a full year of service time. At the end of the season, let Griffey walk, lock Dunn for a few more years, and go with Dunn-Hamilton-Bruce across the OF.

BTW, if you're letting Dunn walk, Bruce would play RF and Griff would shift to LF. Bruce is regarded as a fine defensive player in CF, and profiles as an excellent defender in right long-term. Griff is....well.....not.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Sep 12, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually...

After the demotion to AAA, he really started showing up a lot on the highlight reels at MLB.com. I think he is actually a pretty decent defensive 3B now.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope so

that would make some things easier.

1b - Votto/Cantu
2b - Phillips
SS - Gonzalez / Keppinger
3b - EdE
lf - Bruce
cf - Hamilton
rf - Griffey
c - Ross

bench

NoHo
Valentine

I have no idea on Dunn and Freel

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. Read the article...

Linked by slYde below, written by the One Whose Name Shall Not Be Mentioned.

Here's the quote I liked:

After committing six errors in his first 31 games before being demoted, he's committed only six more in the 91 games since being recalled. He's also become a staple of the "Baseball Tonight" Web Gems segments, making diving plays and throws from his knees nightly.

On Tuesday, Mackanin said he's seen Encarnacion throw out more players from his knees since he's taken over the club than he had previously in his entire career.

"That's the thing I'm (most) proud of. I worked hard in the offseason and I'm doing good this season," Encarnacion said. "I was so happy with my defense, I wanted to get better. I feel great with my defense. I'm very confident in my defense."

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 13, 2007 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Freel, Hopper, and Keppinger for two of the right-handed spots on the bench.

I'm a numbers freak, numbers freak. I'm numbers freaky, ow.

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2007 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Freel?

Hopefully he can come back and be some what effective

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Suck it, Cards

Six straight losses, and Harang going tomorrow.

"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 12, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes!

Suck it Birdos.

If Krivsky doesn't exercise Adam Dunn's 2008 option, I'm a Mets fan until they fire him.

by Paul Householder on Sep 12, 2007 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And this one belongs to the Reds!!

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 12, 2007 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

EdE's smile

I wonder if this article by CTR is a response to McCoy's jab at EdE a couple months ago when he said that EdE never looks happy to be playing. He seems to emphasize the fact that Edwin was all smiles, doesn't he?

I'm a numbers freak, numbers freak. I'm numbers freaky, ow.

by Slyde on Sep 13, 2007 8:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs