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Late Night Trade Rumors + Simpsons

So I'm drinking some beer late at night and wanting to talk rumors. You may indulge or ignore me.

According to Jon Heyman the Angels have declared their intention to add an "impact" bat, and Adam Dunn is the second option to Mark Teixeira. Robothal says the Braves have a huge, Salty offer out for Tex, but that doesn't really make sense given how savvy Schuerholz is.

Wouldn't Dunn throw a monkey wrench into that Angels-smallball cult? If he goes there and they don't win the World Series will the blame entirely fall on him?

Heyman goes on to rank the best available starters thusly: Matt Morris, Livan Hernandez, Jose Contreras, Jason Jennings and Kyle Lohse. He adds that Jon Garland, Noah Lowry or Joe Blanton would easily jump to the top of the list.

Am I the only one who thinks Lohse is underrated on this list? Let's just look at this year:


            IP    HR   SO   BB   WHIP   ERA+  PRC   DERA
Morris    129.7   11   65   39   1.45   103    40    4.78
Livan     133.3   21   67   57   1.59    99    46    4.22
Contreras 118.7   12   68   45   1.61    73    29    4.68
Jennings   76.0    8   56   26   1.42    91    26    4.67
Lohse     131.7   16   80   33   1.33   100    42    4.48

Would someone really want Contreras over Kyle? Am I a crazy homer to think that our boy might be the best of these five?

If you're around to comment before I run out of beer or pass out I'll respond. Just to get things going I'll add controversial statements:

The US should legalize drugs, but not tax them.

Jeff Keppinger is an incredibly clutch hitter.

Helena Bonham Carter was way hotter when she acted in period pictures, before she got with Tim Burton and became quasi-goth and started always playing witches.

Update [2007-7-27 3:55:31 by Red Menace]: Also, seeing as the Simpsons movie is dropping today, what is your choice for the best episode? My money is on Lisa's Substitute from way back in 1991.

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I agree...
Seems to me that Kyle has among the highest strikeout rates and among the lowest walk rates of any of those pitchers.  So based on this year's performance alone, at least, I'd go with him.

The knock on Kyle is that he's been inconsistent as all heck.  But there is some evidence that inconsistent pitchers are worth more to their teams than consistent pitchers with comparable overall numbers: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/are-foolish-conistencies-the-hobgoblins-of-starting-pitche rs/
-j

by JinAZ on Jul 27, 2007 3:38 AM EDT reply actions  

that was a good article
I'm still waiting for Joe Morgan's response.

By the way, nice look at the Brewers a couple weeks ago. I'm anticipating other installments.

It's not the negativity. It's the misdirected negativity.

by Red Menace on Jul 27, 2007 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks
I'm looking forward to doing the next one too.  I really want to do a park factor/regress to mean study first, though, and it's been surprisingly difficult to wrap my head around some of the finer details. -j

by JinAZ on Jul 27, 2007 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over in the game thread
There's some discussion of Dumatrait.  He was suddenly pulled from last night's Bats game - "at the request of the Reds."  Geki suggested that that could mean Lohse is about to be traded.

Or it could mean Dumatrait is the one traded, or just that Saarloos' sorry butt is being sent back to Louisville.  

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 27, 2007 7:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Lohse..
..may still be seen as something of a "project." (See: inconsistent.)  And he's probably still carrying that "headcase" baggage.

Pitching coaches and general managers and fans (and the rumor mill) are probably going to prefer the veteran presence of Morris or Contreras or Livan for their runs through September and October.  (Judging from the order of the pitchers on Heyman's list, "veteran presence" appears to roughly equate to "size of his ass.")

I don't remember the name of the episode but one of my favorite Simpson's episode has the "Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con" and Fat Tony's rat milk for the school cafeteria and Homer's line: "Rent, or Stomp, or Clomp, or some piece of crap."

And I like Helena Bonham Carter in just about everything I've seen her in but yup, she was at her smokinest in The Wings of the Dove (which, know that I think of it, I never saw the end of).

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, and regarding drugs...
..I heard this last night on the radio.  Or it might have been the voices in my head.
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Beer Baron episode...
And I really like 22 Short Films About Springfield

Those are probably my two favorites.

"Give them this: they never let the fact that only half of what they posted was funny stop them from posting still more." - Rastronomicals

by chandrathan on Jul 27, 2007 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Holy father of Moses!
After reading about Chase Utley's broken hand I was clicking through the Phillies' roster to see if we might be able to fill a need of theirs by packaging Freel and Farney together for some prospects.

Well, they've got Abrahmam Nunez so they don't really need our versatile scrapper.  In fact, maybe we could use Abe to shore up our bullpen.

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

ESPN Trade rumors
says that the O's might be shopping Daniel Cabrera. If that were true I hope Krivsky is on the phone right now offering whatever it takes (except Bailey and Bruce) to get him. If he gets his control problems worked out he would be one of the top 10-15 guys in the league IMHO. Looking at Harang, Arroyo, Bailey, Cabrera, and fill in the blank. that would be a solid starting 5.

by CamIam on Jul 27, 2007 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

You really think the Reds can fix him?
I'm sorry, but if Leo Mazzone can't get the guy to throw strikes, then he's just not meant to throw strikes.

by Geki on Jul 27, 2007 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe
if there is a pitching talent out there with Cabrera's stuff then you have to go after him if your in a small market. He will be cheap for the next 2-3 years and he doesnt have to throw strike like Maddux or Glavine since he throws mid 90's with a nasty slider.

by CamIam on Jul 27, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Market value
There are several things that could impact the market value of Contreras, Hernandez, and Morris compared to Lohse's:
  • All 3 have been all-stars
  • All 3 have pitched in a world series
  • Two have WS rings
  • None of them were dumped BY a contender last year for one A-ball pitcher
  • They all have a career ERA+ of 100 or greater
Some of these are superficial and could be argued shouldn't weigh into the equation, but we know for many GM's it will.  

by omnired on Jul 27, 2007 10:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with the WS rings bit
Everyone seems to have a hard time separating players from their teams. (ala fjm topic "yankees lose because of arod")
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Jul 27, 2007 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Legalized drugs with no taxes.
And the Reds will acquire Brandon Webb for Juan Casto. Sam always gets his cut.

The more I've looked around, the more I think maybe the Reds should hang on to Lohse. Maybe.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jul 27, 2007 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

eesh.
I figured it was only a matter of time before someone here dropped this on us.

By "hang on to Lohse" you mean retain him for the next few years, I presume?

He's gonna be expensive and I think that someone here figured that he's gonna get at least a three year deal.

Blech.

I'd rather go with Livingston and Dumatrait and spend Lohse money on some live arms for the bullpen.

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse
I expect that Lohse will get a Gil Meche type contract.  You know Boras got all giddy when Meche got that contract last year because Lohse has been at least as good, if not better than Meche was going into free agency.  The only thing that keeps Lohse from getting 4 or 5 years and at least $11M a year is if the owners sit on their wallets, and we all know they can't control themselves that much.
chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 27, 2007 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

$40M (or more) for Kyle Lohse?!?
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, not at that
price. I meant for the rest of the season rather than dealing him for next to nothing. I'd rather have the draft picks than minor league filler.
We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jul 27, 2007 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh....
..but you are assuming that the draft picks would be used to acquire something other than minor league filler.
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.
Good point.  I guess Stubbs over Linecum is prosecution's Exhibit 1.
Please don't trade Adam Dunn.

by Paul Householder on Jul 27, 2007 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i vote
we never use "stubbs" and "linecum" in the same sentence again.  kind of gives me a sick feeling inside.

by Daedalus on Jul 27, 2007 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about stubbs and "lincecum"?
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

my lawyers will be in touch
perhaps you've heard of elk and elk.

sorry, I only noticed because I see his name misspelled frequently in articles and the like, and I've done it a number of times myself. Something about that name makes us want to crop the first "c." Paul above you does it as well.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was kidding of course
i can't think of another word or name that has a c-e-c in it.  he'll probably forever have his named spelled incorrectly.

speaking of the simpsons, i've just spent the last two hours watching simpsons episodes online.  no boss + friday = no work.  for people who say the simpsons isn't funny any more is just jumping on the bandwagon.  that boxingham palace scene from this season is hilarious!

by Daedalus on Jul 27, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favorite line from it
bart:  whoever thought men in brown shirts could cause so much trouble?

by Daedalus on Jul 27, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

c-e-c words
It's amazing what people put their time into on these interwebs:

4-letter words
ceca

5-letter words
cecal, cecum

6-letter words
icecap

7-letter words
cecally, icecaps

9-letter words
facecloth

10-letter words
facecloths, racecourse, spacecraft

11-letter words
racecourses, spacecrafts

14-letter words
appendicectomy

16-letter words
appendicectomies

chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 27, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, which Red Reporter..
..can write a one-pge essay about the Reds' post-Schott era using as many of these words as possible?
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about a bad limerick?
There once was a woman named Marge
Whose cecum was really quite large
She had a facecloth
With a big swastika
So she was no longer in charge.

She employed a guy named Pete
Who sat in the manager's seat
He was found on the racecourse
Putting dough on a horse
And saying his team could defeat.

The result marred MLB
Like a bad appendicectomy
Racecourses aren't cool
When you're a big tool
And you ruin all you achieve.

So their ceca were blocked up with garbage
I think they were both retarded
Like they came on spacecrafts
Their brains were icecaps
And they polluted the game when they farted.

So cecal matters aside
I wish Pete would just go and hide
But he runs his mouth
And we have to shout
Come on, Pete, we know you lied!

Get back on your spacecraft!
Or go live on a northern icecap!
Appendicectomies suck!
You just want a buck
But your manner is really quite daft.

Your words are infused cecally
And dumb comes so easily
You could sell facecloths
With your image across
Instead you lie on repeat.

by Daedalus on Jul 27, 2007 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You win a prize!
Umm.. what do you want?
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

nicec
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,
I reckon I am at that.
We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jul 27, 2007 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok. I just had an idea.
I think we could convince Krivsky that WE were the GM of the Reds, and that if he signs Dunn to an extension, and then trades him to the Reds, he can have Castro, Majewski, Bray, Freel, and Keppinger.

That way Wayner's excited about this great trade he made, and we get to keep Dunn.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Jul 27, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm on it
I've already placed a call to Krivsky asking him if he's interested in making a deal.  I told him it would be contingent on a Dunn extension, but we would give him several Major League caliber players, including some guys for the bullpen.  Let's see if he takes the bait.
chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 27, 2007 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, to be a fly on the wall..
WAYNE: Well, what do you want me to do? You just want me to hit you?

KRIVSKY: C'mon, do me this one favor.

WAYNE: Why?

KRIVSKY: Why? I don't know why; I don't know. Never been in a fight. You?

WAYNE: No, but that's a good thing.

KRIVSKY: No, it is not. How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me before I lose my nerve.

WAYNE: This is crazy.

KRIVSKY: So go crazy. Let 'er rip.

WAYNE: I don't know about this.

KRIVSKY: I don't either. Who gives a shit? No one's watching. What do you care?

WAYNE: Whoa, wait, this is crazy. You want me to hit you?

KRIVSKY: That's right.

WAYNE: What, like in the face?

KRIVSKY: Surprise me.

WAYNE: This is so fucking stupid...

[Wayne swings, connects against Krivsky's head]

KRIVSKY: Motherfucker! You hit me in the ear!

WAYNE: Well, Jesus, I'm sorry.

KRIVSKY: Ow, Christ... why the ear, man?

WAYNE: Guess I fucked it up...

KRIVSKY: No, that was perfect!

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indians get Kenny Lofton
for a High-A Catcher they got on the Wickman trade last year.
Find me on MySpace- http://www.myspace.com/mixfmkyle

by MixFMKyle on Jul 27, 2007 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I didn't realize
that he's still playing well at 40.  He's hit .300 and stolen 21 bases (caught 4 times) in 84 games this year.  He walks a reasonable amount, too.

He's probably making something on the order of $3-4 million, though.  Hrm.

by Gray on Jul 27, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I recall
The Boston game I went to really made him look good. He went something like 2 for 4 with 3 steals. They had no answer for him.

How that happened, I have no idea.

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Jul 27, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW
Chad at Redleg Nation links to an article that says the Angels are out of the Dunn market because Wayner's asking price was too high.

I agree wholeheartedly with the tragic gothicization of Helena Bonham Carter. She was beautiful in A Room with a View. I also agree the tHan on the Beer Baron episode of the Simpsons, but my love for Abe Simpson makes me want to nominate the Love Tonic episode and the first season Bart beats up Nelson episode.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

cute little story about hbc
the original line in fight club was "I want to have your abortion." The producers were mortified, so they demanded david fincher & co. change it. fincher obliged, but the suits liked "I haven't been fucked like that since grade school" even less.
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 27, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rangers-Braves Trade
that Rosenthal talks about just doesn't make sense to me. I'm really not sure why the Braves are so interested in trading Saltalamacchia. He's not having a great year, but he's 22 with a power bat and power arm and even though they already have McCann to play catcher, they have a pretty obvious hole at 1b that one of those guys could fill.

The foolish intriguer in me says that the Braves know something about Salty that the rest of us aren't seeing. I was reminded of how savvy Schuerholtz has been trading high on his ballyhooed young talent when I watched Andy Marte strike out twice and meekly ground out to the pitcher a few weeks ago for the Buffalo Bisons.

I saw the Edgar Renteria for John Garland rumor floated a few days ago, and I think Renteria is the player I'd try to move right now if I'm the Braves. He's hitting way over his head and could bring back a solid 3rd or 4th starter like Garland. Garland's not going to return to 2005 form, but he'd be an upgrade over Davies and James behind Smoltz and Hudson and he's still only 28. Escobar and Johnson in the middle infield would make a solid young tandem, though Escobar won't replace Renteria's power.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Window of contention
is getting shorter for Atlanta.  Larry and John may only have a couple more great seasons, and Andruw is gone after this year.  Renteria will likely slip in production (I agree that they should try to move him).  I certainly wouldn't do it for a half-season rental, but for 1.5 years it makes some sense.  

by ken on Jul 27, 2007 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk
The one when Burns sells the power plant to the Germans.  We get to see both the soft and ruthless side of Burns and Homer's chocolate land fantasy.  Quimby's "Ich bin ein Springfielder" line had me in stitches.  

by ken on Jul 27, 2007 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's all welcome our new lunchroom attendant
"Ken Griffey, Jr.!"

"Homer at the Bat."  A classic episode from Season 3, and still the all-time best sports related comedy episode of any sitcom.  For those not familiar (ahem, Caleb), Mr. Burns hires nine Major League ringers for the nuclear power plant's softball team.  It's a who's who of 1991 ballplayers: Griffey, Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs, Don Mattingly, Mike Sciosia, Ozzie Smith, Steve Sax, Jose Canseco, and Darryl Strawberry, who takes Homer's spot in right field.  Roger Clemens is still a dick in this episode, breaking Homer's homemade Wonderboy bat with a blazing fastball.  Eight of the ringers suffer misfortunes that keep them from playing, and Mr. Burns never saw it coming ("Three separate misfortunes?  That's possible.  Seven misfortunes?  There's an outside chance.  But nine misfortunes?  I'd like to see that!"

It's up to the plant workers to play the championship game - except for Homer.  Strawberry is the only ringer left.  But, with the score tied in the ninth, Mr. Burns benches Strawberry - who has hit nine home runs in the game - in favor of Homer, who's bats right-handed.  "Their pitcher is left-handed.  It's called playing the percentages.  It's what good managers do" (sound familiar?).  Homer strides to the plate, becomes confused by Mr. Burns's signals, and is subsequently hit in the head to drive in the winning run.  Great episode.

I especially like the Springfield cops hasseling Steve Sax.  "New York City, huh?  I heard some guy got killed in New York City, and they never found out who did it.  But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you, Sax?"  "But there are hundreds of unsolved murders in New York every year!"  "You don't know when to keep your mouth shut, Sax!"

- and -

The police are taunting Sax in his jail cell.  "Don't I get a lawyer?"  "You watch too many movies, Sax!"

by Brendanukkah on Jul 27, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you, sir.
I remembered the episode but I had forgotten about Sax'x run-in with SPD.

Also an oldie-but-a-goodie: Lisa's Substitute.  It might not have been a knee-slapper but the big softie in me remembers this episode as being nearly perfect.

Mr. Bergstrom- character voiced by "Sam Etic"

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Behind the Music: Softball episode
The DVD commentary (nerd alert!) for this was entertaining, especially when the producer said that the players were all great to work with except for one "whose name rhymes with Manseco":

In the first draft of "Homer at the Bat," notorious ladies man Canseco was supposed to have a fling with Bart's teacher, Edna Krabappel. But Canseco's then-wife Esther intervened. The part was rewritten with Canseco as a hero who saves a woman and her cat (and her player piano) from a burning house.

The ballplayer was not, however, a hero on the set. On the DVD commentary for the episode, Jean said that all the athletes were wonderful to deal with except for one "whose name rhymes with Manseco."

Reached for this story, Canseco was in no mood to wax nostalgic. "That was 100 years ago," he said. The phone line disconnected within seconds of the interview and subsequent calls were not returned.

by ken on Jul 27, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great episode
I like a later episode (but can't remember which one) when Marge is trying to help Lisa cheer up and come to some kind of acceptance of herself, and writes on a piece of paper, "You are Lisa Simpson."  Then Lisa points out that she already has one of those, and we see the framed note Mr. Bergstrom had given her.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 27, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

<<eyes mist>>
'Nukkah, you complete me.
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ukkah
Are you pumped about David Wain and Co's The Ten?
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am ....now
"I'm sorry honey, I didn't see you there."

I had no idea this was coming out, and now I am looking forward to it.  Thank you Man Mountain.  A blessing on your house!

by Brendanukkah on Jul 27, 2007 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those interested
Trailer here

It's good to see both Kerri Kinney and Joe Lo Truglio get parts. Would liked to have seen Tom Lennon in there, too.

The State was the best.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessir. Thank you.
Some of us have a thing for Gretchen Mol.

And some of us also have a thing for librarians.

And... "she plays a virgin librarian who is deflowered by Jesus Christ himself."

That's kinda hot.  Right? Kinda?

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Justin Theroux
plays Jesus Christ. I really liked him as Bryce in American Psycho, the director in Mulholland Drive, and the evil DJ in Zoolander.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't remember him in American Psycho.
My copies of Mullholland Drive always have a forcefield around it.

I'm not ashamed to say that I love Zoolander.  I love it a lot.

Anybody intersted in Sunshine?  I'm not a huge sci-fi guy but the director (Danny Boyle) did Trainspotting and Millions which I enjoyed.  I loooved Millions.  I think it's completely underrated and overlooked. (If anyone is headed to the video store tonight.)

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

American Psycho
he was bateman's "friend" Bryce, one of his peers at Pierce and Pierce. He was sleeping with Bateman's fiancee Evelyn. He has a great line about there being no good bathrooms in New York to do coke in.

Mulholland Drive fascinates me. It elicits a visceral reaction. I can't say if it's a great film or not, but it terrified me the way no horror film ever has.

I enjoyed Millions quite a bit, but I don't know anything about Sunshine. I watched Trainspotting a few months ago for the first time since I was a teenager. It hasn't really aged well, but the Lou Reed "Perfect Day" montage was still fabulous.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your reaction to "Mullhulland Drive"...
..is much the same as my reaction to Crash (the ten year old Cronenberg film, not the Oscar-winner).  That movie haunts me every time I have a "near-miss" out on the road.
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best Simpson episode hands down...
Frank Grimes!
"Always root for the winner. That way you won't be disappointed." -Tug McGraw

by Zach K on Jul 27, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

If I remember correctly, Zach...
..you are a young man of only nineteen years, yes?

Wow.  I realize that means that The Simpsons have been on the air from the very first time your diapered ass ever looked up from eating Fruit Loops off the carpet and discovered television.

Friend, I could tell you stories about how hard we had it trying to entertain ourselves in the days before Fox.

"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

before fox...? before the simpsons?
now you are making things up
"Always root for the winner. That way you won't be disappointed." -Tug McGraw

by Zach K on Jul 27, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

bold choice
There's no clear jump-the-shark moment in Simpsons history, but I bet more fans would pick that one than any other.
It's not the negativity. It's the misdirected negativity.

by Red Menace on Jul 28, 2007 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I thought the writing was flawless...
I'm not a huge simpson fan so thats interesting

South Park will always be my favorite cartoon comedy...but the simpons are god

"Always root for the winner. That way you won't be disappointed." -Tug McGraw

by Zach K on Jul 28, 2007 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hints the simpson is god part
"Always root for the winner. That way you won't be disappointed." -Tug McGraw

by Zach K on Jul 28, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

tochea
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Jul 28, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you taking tocheas?
I thought you worked during the evenings on the weekend.
chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 28, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

be careful boobs,
Slyde is drunk, and in a Deliverance state of mind. He thinks he's Burt Reynolds.
Even Shortstop is better than Michael Gosling.

by Ash on Jul 28, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am Burt Reynolds
See, this is me with Marky Mark on the set of Boogie Nights:

chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 28, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

you look a little bit like
SNL Celebrity Jeopardy Sean Connery there, Burt.
"Hello, my name is Bingo. I like to climb on things. Can I have a banana? Eek eek."

by Ash on Jul 28, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this more your style?
chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 28, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that, was going to post it
and then I thought, nah, don't want to make anyone uncomfortable. Well, hell, Burt did it for me.

Nice ass, Slyde...

"Hello, my name is Bingo. I like to climb on things. Can I have a banana? Eek eek."

by Ash on Jul 28, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow
I do have a nice ass.
chandrathan has come out of the darkness and has seen a great light!

by Slyde on Jul 28, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the obligatory football.
Burt: "Hell no I'm not taking any without the damn football.  Hell no.  Fuck the heck no."
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smoking a Winston.
"This may be representative of my nature as a middle American jerk-off." ~Pops

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lame
This is the most boring trade deadline ever, at least in terms of MLB as a whole.  Wayne could make it very interesting for us Reds fans, but I doubt it for some reason.

Ya, I agree, Lohse looks pretty good relative to those other guys.  If the trade cost was the same for all of those you listed, Lohse and Morris are the only 2 I'd consider, and Morris started the season hot and has really hit a wall of late, meanwhile Lohse has posted a 3.81 ERA over the last month, so maybe he IS the best of that group, at least in terms of what can be expected for the rest of this season.  His K and BB numbers arent atrocious either.  

C'mon Wayne, lets get something good for Kyle!  I've never said anything bad about you I swear ;)

'Clutch' to me is the epitome of experimenter's bias.

by TheDude @ Red Reporter on Jul 27, 2007 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Some good episodes
mentioned here. My two favorites are the Stonecutters episode, and the Marge and Homer go to a marriage retreat episode....

by ctnyc on Aug 1, 2007 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

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