Late Night Trade Rumors + Simpsons
So I'm drinking some beer late at night and wanting to talk rumors. You may indulge or ignore me.
According to Jon Heyman the Angels have declared their intention to add an "impact" bat, and Adam Dunn is the second option to Mark Teixeira. Robothal says the Braves have a huge, Salty offer out for Tex, but that doesn't really make sense given how savvy Schuerholz is.
Wouldn't Dunn throw a monkey wrench into that Angels-smallball cult? If he goes there and they don't win the World Series will the blame entirely fall on him?
Heyman goes on to rank the best available starters thusly: Matt Morris, Livan Hernandez, Jose Contreras, Jason Jennings and Kyle Lohse. He adds that Jon Garland, Noah Lowry or Joe Blanton would easily jump to the top of the list.
Am I the only one who thinks Lohse is underrated on this list? Let's just look at this year:
IP HR SO BB WHIP ERA+ PRC DERA
Morris 129.7 11 65 39 1.45 103 40 4.78
Livan 133.3 21 67 57 1.59 99 46 4.22
Contreras 118.7 12 68 45 1.61 73 29 4.68
Jennings 76.0 8 56 26 1.42 91 26 4.67
Lohse 131.7 16 80 33 1.33 100 42 4.48
Would someone really want Contreras over Kyle? Am I a crazy homer to think that our boy might be the best of these five?
If you're around to comment before I run out of beer or pass out I'll respond. Just to get things going I'll add controversial statements:
The US should legalize drugs, but not tax them.
Jeff Keppinger is an incredibly clutch hitter.
Helena Bonham Carter was way hotter when she acted in period pictures, before she got with Tim Burton and became quasi-goth and started always playing witches.
Update [2007-7-27 3:55:31 by Red Menace]: Also, seeing as the Simpsons movie is dropping today, what is your choice for the best episode? My money is on Lisa's Substitute from way back in 1991.
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I agree...
The knock on Kyle is that he's been inconsistent as all heck. But there is some evidence that inconsistent pitchers are worth more to their teams than consistent pitchers with comparable overall numbers: http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/are-foolish-conistencies-the-hobgoblins-of-starting-pitche rs/
-j
that was a good article
By the way, nice look at the Brewers a couple weeks ago. I'm anticipating other installments.
Thanks
Over in the game thread
Or it could mean Dumatrait is the one traded, or just that Saarloos' sorry butt is being sent back to Louisville.
Lohse..
Pitching coaches and general managers and fans (and the rumor mill) are probably going to prefer the veteran presence of Morris or Contreras or Livan for their runs through September and October. (Judging from the order of the pitchers on Heyman's list, "veteran presence" appears to roughly equate to "size of his ass.")
I don't remember the name of the episode but one of my favorite Simpson's episode has the "Bi-Mon-Sci-Fi-Con" and Fat Tony's rat milk for the school cafeteria and Homer's line: "Rent, or Stomp, or Clomp, or some piece of crap."
And I like Helena Bonham Carter in just about everything I've seen her in but yup, she was at her smokinest in The Wings of the Dove (which, know that I think of it, I never saw the end of).

Oh, and regarding drugs...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I like to play keno with my imaginary friends.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the Beer Baron episode...
Those are probably my two favorites.
by chandrathan on Jul 27, 2007 9:50 AM EDT reply actions
Holy father of Moses!
Well, they've got Abrahmam Nunez so they don't really need our versatile scrapper. In fact, maybe we could use Abe to shore up our bullpen.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
ESPN Trade rumors
You really think the Reds can fix him?
I believe
Market value
- All 3 have been all-stars
- All 3 have pitched in a world series
- Two have WS rings
- None of them were dumped BY a contender last year for one A-ball pitcher
- They all have a career ERA+ of 100 or greater
by omnired on Jul 27, 2007 10:52 AM EDT reply actions
I agree with the WS rings bit
Legalized drugs with no taxes.
The more I've looked around, the more I think maybe the Reds should hang on to Lohse. Maybe.
by Thundering Turtle on Jul 27, 2007 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
eesh.
By "hang on to Lohse" you mean retain him for the next few years, I presume?
He's gonna be expensive and I think that someone here figured that he's gonna get at least a three year deal.
Blech.
I'd rather go with Livingston and Dumatrait and spend Lohse money on some live arms for the bullpen.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Lohse
$40M (or more) for Kyle Lohse?!?
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, not at that
by Thundering Turtle on Jul 27, 2007 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahh....
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh.
by Paul Householder on Jul 27, 2007 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i vote
what about stubbs and "lincecum"?
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
my lawyers will be in touch
sorry, I only noticed because I see his name misspelled frequently in articles and the like, and I've done it a number of times myself. Something about that name makes us want to crop the first "c." Paul above you does it as well.
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i was kidding of course
speaking of the simpsons, i've just spent the last two hours watching simpsons episodes online. no boss + friday = no work. for people who say the simpsons isn't funny any more is just jumping on the bandwagon. that boxingham palace scene from this season is hilarious!
c-e-c words
4-letter words
ceca
5-letter words
cecal, cecum
6-letter words
icecap
7-letter words
cecally, icecaps
9-letter words
facecloth
10-letter words
facecloths, racecourse, spacecraft
11-letter words
racecourses, spacecrafts
14-letter words
appendicectomy
16-letter words
appendicectomies
Now, which Red Reporter..
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
how about a bad limerick?
Whose cecum was really quite large
She had a facecloth
With a big swastika
So she was no longer in charge.
She employed a guy named Pete
Who sat in the manager's seat
He was found on the racecourse
Putting dough on a horse
And saying his team could defeat.
The result marred MLB
Like a bad appendicectomy
Racecourses aren't cool
When you're a big tool
And you ruin all you achieve.
So their ceca were blocked up with garbage
I think they were both retarded
Like they came on spacecrafts
Their brains were icecaps
And they polluted the game when they farted.
So cecal matters aside
I wish Pete would just go and hide
But he runs his mouth
And we have to shout
Come on, Pete, we know you lied!
Get back on your spacecraft!
Or go live on a northern icecap!
Appendicectomies suck!
You just want a buck
But your manner is really quite daft.
Your words are infused cecally
And dumb comes so easily
You could sell facecloths
With your image across
Instead you lie on repeat.
You win a prize!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
nicec
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
by Thundering Turtle on Jul 27, 2007 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ok. I just had an idea.
That way Wayner's excited about this great trade he made, and we get to keep Dunn.
I'm on it
Oh, to be a fly on the wall..
KRIVSKY: C'mon, do me this one favor.
WAYNE: Why?
KRIVSKY: Why? I don't know why; I don't know. Never been in a fight. You?
WAYNE: No, but that's a good thing.
KRIVSKY: No, it is not. How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me before I lose my nerve.
WAYNE: This is crazy.
KRIVSKY: So go crazy. Let 'er rip.
WAYNE: I don't know about this.
KRIVSKY: I don't either. Who gives a shit? No one's watching. What do you care?
WAYNE: Whoa, wait, this is crazy. You want me to hit you?
KRIVSKY: That's right.
WAYNE: What, like in the face?
KRIVSKY: Surprise me.
WAYNE: This is so fucking stupid...
[Wayne swings, connects against Krivsky's head]
KRIVSKY: Motherfucker! You hit me in the ear!
WAYNE: Well, Jesus, I'm sorry.
KRIVSKY: Ow, Christ... why the ear, man?
WAYNE: Guess I fucked it up...
KRIVSKY: No, that was perfect!
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Indians get Kenny Lofton
I didn't realize
He's probably making something on the order of $3-4 million, though. Hrm.
As I recall
How that happened, I have no idea.
by Officer Dibble on Jul 27, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
I agree wholeheartedly with the tragic gothicization of Helena Bonham Carter. She was beautiful in A Room with a View. I also agree the tHan on the Beer Baron episode of the Simpsons, but my love for Abe Simpson makes me want to nominate the Love Tonic episode and the first season Bart beats up Nelson episode.
cute little story about hbc
The Rangers-Braves Trade
The foolish intriguer in me says that the Braves know something about Salty that the rest of us aren't seeing. I was reminded of how savvy Schuerholtz has been trading high on his ballyhooed young talent when I watched Andy Marte strike out twice and meekly ground out to the pitcher a few weeks ago for the Buffalo Bisons.
I saw the Edgar Renteria for John Garland rumor floated a few days ago, and I think Renteria is the player I'd try to move right now if I'm the Braves. He's hitting way over his head and could bring back a solid 3rd or 4th starter like Garland. Garland's not going to return to 2005 form, but he'd be an upgrade over Davies and James behind Smoltz and Hudson and he's still only 28. Escobar and Johnson in the middle infield would make a solid young tandem, though Escobar won't replace Renteria's power.
Window of contention
Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk
Let's all welcome our new lunchroom attendant
"Homer at the Bat." A classic episode from Season 3, and still the all-time best sports related comedy episode of any sitcom. For those not familiar (ahem, Caleb), Mr. Burns hires nine Major League ringers for the nuclear power plant's softball team. It's a who's who of 1991 ballplayers: Griffey, Roger Clemens, Wade Boggs, Don Mattingly, Mike Sciosia, Ozzie Smith, Steve Sax, Jose Canseco, and Darryl Strawberry, who takes Homer's spot in right field. Roger Clemens is still a dick in this episode, breaking Homer's homemade Wonderboy bat with a blazing fastball. Eight of the ringers suffer misfortunes that keep them from playing, and Mr. Burns never saw it coming ("Three separate misfortunes? That's possible. Seven misfortunes? There's an outside chance. But nine misfortunes? I'd like to see that!"
It's up to the plant workers to play the championship game - except for Homer. Strawberry is the only ringer left. But, with the score tied in the ninth, Mr. Burns benches Strawberry - who has hit nine home runs in the game - in favor of Homer, who's bats right-handed. "Their pitcher is left-handed. It's called playing the percentages. It's what good managers do" (sound familiar?). Homer strides to the plate, becomes confused by Mr. Burns's signals, and is subsequently hit in the head to drive in the winning run. Great episode.
I especially like the Springfield cops hasseling Steve Sax. "New York City, huh? I heard some guy got killed in New York City, and they never found out who did it. But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you, Sax?" "But there are hundreds of unsolved murders in New York every year!" "You don't know when to keep your mouth shut, Sax!"
- and -
The police are taunting Sax in his jail cell. "Don't I get a lawyer?" "You watch too many movies, Sax!"
Thank you, sir.
Also an oldie-but-a-goodie: Lisa's Substitute. It might not have been a knee-slapper but the big softie in me remembers this episode as being nearly perfect.

Mr. Bergstrom- character voiced by "Sam Etic"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Behind the Music: Softball episode
In the first draft of "Homer at the Bat," notorious ladies man Canseco was supposed to have a fling with Bart's teacher, Edna Krabappel. But Canseco's then-wife Esther intervened. The part was rewritten with Canseco as a hero who saves a woman and her cat (and her player piano) from a burning house.
The ballplayer was not, however, a hero on the set. On the DVD commentary for the episode, Jean said that all the athletes were wonderful to deal with except for one "whose name rhymes with Manseco."
Reached for this story, Canseco was in no mood to wax nostalgic. "That was 100 years ago," he said. The phone line disconnected within seconds of the interview and subsequent calls were not returned.
Great episode
by Brendanukkah on Jul 27, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
<<eyes mist>>
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ukkah
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I am ....now
I had no idea this was coming out, and now I am looking forward to it. Thank you Man Mountain. A blessing on your house!
by Brendanukkah on Jul 27, 2007 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
For those interested
It's good to see both Kerri Kinney and Joe Lo Truglio get parts. Would liked to have seen Tom Lennon in there, too.
The State was the best.
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yessir. Thank you.
And some of us also have a thing for librarians.
And... "she plays a virgin librarian who is deflowered by Jesus Christ himself."
That's kinda hot. Right? Kinda?

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe Justin Theroux
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't remember him in American Psycho.
I'm not ashamed to say that I love Zoolander. I love it a lot.
Anybody intersted in Sunshine? I'm not a huge sci-fi guy but the director (Danny Boyle) did Trainspotting and Millions which I enjoyed. I loooved Millions. I think it's completely underrated and overlooked. (If anyone is headed to the video store tonight.)
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
American Psycho
Mulholland Drive fascinates me. It elicits a visceral reaction. I can't say if it's a great film or not, but it terrified me the way no horror film ever has.
I enjoyed Millions quite a bit, but I don't know anything about Sunshine. I watched Trainspotting a few months ago for the first time since I was a teenager. It hasn't really aged well, but the Lou Reed "Perfect Day" montage was still fabulous.
by Man Mountain on Jul 27, 2007 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Your reaction to "Mullhulland Drive"...
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Best Simpson episode hands down...
If I remember correctly, Zach...
Wow. I realize that means that The Simpsons have been on the air from the very first time your diapered ass ever looked up from eating Fruit Loops off the carpet and discovered television.
Friend, I could tell you stories about how hard we had it trying to entertain ourselves in the days before Fox.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 27, 2007 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
before fox...? before the simpsons?
bold choice
Really? I thought the writing was flawless...
South Park will always be my favorite cartoon comedy...but the simpons are god
hints the simpson is god part
tochea
Are you taking tocheas?
be careful boobs,
I am Burt Reynolds

you look a little bit like
I saw that, was going to post it
Nice ass, Slyde...

I love the obligatory football.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Smoking a Winston.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 28, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Lame
Ya, I agree, Lohse looks pretty good relative to those other guys. If the trade cost was the same for all of those you listed, Lohse and Morris are the only 2 I'd consider, and Morris started the season hot and has really hit a wall of late, meanwhile Lohse has posted a 3.81 ERA over the last month, so maybe he IS the best of that group, at least in terms of what can be expected for the rest of this season. His K and BB numbers arent atrocious either.
C'mon Wayne, lets get something good for Kyle! I've never said anything bad about you I swear ;)
by TheDude @ Red Reporter on Jul 27, 2007 6:14 PM EDT reply actions

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