Hatteberg - Leadoff??
Congrats Scott Hatteberg. Welcome to the leadoff spot.
Tonight's Lineup
Hatteberg, 1B
Phillips, 2B
Griffey, RF
Encarnacion, 3B
Dunn, LF
Gonzalez, SS
Hamilton, CF
Ross, C
Belisle, P
So the great debate begins:
Which is more important at the top, Speed or A High OBP?
I say both are important, but I would rather have someone that can get on base once or twice every night, otherwise the speed is wasted.
Jerry Narron is not in Cincinnati tonight, Bucky Dent is the Interim manager. I still bet Narron put this together before he left.
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Why can't we just use the good lineup...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
Jerry's going for the Guiness Book
by Virgil Nighthawk on May 4, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Belisle
Yup
This reminds me of the Tigers...
It's like the stupid Apple shit
Irene Podnanski. A little decorum, please.
I'd swap Hamilton and Fratty
I'd also put Dunner back at 2, but ultimately I just wanna be loved by you, just you, and nobody else but you. I wanna be kissed by you, alone. Boo-boop-ee-do.
I'm sick of it!
by NYRed on May 4, 2007 5:32 PM EDT reply actions
Bucky Dent !
by Virgil Nighthawk on May 4, 2007 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't see what the problem is

2007 Reds Threat Level is Blue
first
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
Oh no...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
No way...I'm due!
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You seem to have had...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I just saw Reel Big Fish is going to be...
I'm so there!
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
Hell Yeah....love RBF
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
Non Buffett or Al...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And speaking of "beer"....
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
Mmmmmmmmmmm
Jason Hirsh
Then Junior walks
For all the (deserved) badmouthing of Jacoby
Now if he could do something with the bullpen...
For all the (deserved) praise of Pole
Let's try a double steal
Come on!
Chris's comeback
dunn will never be successful
Good grief
That "score in the first inning" thing is getting ridiculous.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
Merciless...
HELL YES!
Hey...
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
Gameday says these balls
tHom and Chris
Nice stat, Marty
Also not true

2007 Reds Threat Level is Blue
Nice work, Marty
Anybody else listening?
that's ok
that's a ridiculous rule, btw
Yeah
by ken on May 4, 2007 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
aggresive baserunning can lead to defensive errors
by rose2hall on May 4, 2007 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually kinda...
With nobody out and a man on second, the batter is most likely swinging away and a single scores a run. With nobody out and a man on third, the batter is most likely swinging away and a single scores a run. You gain almost nothing by moving from second to third, so the risk isn't worth it.
With one out and a man on second, the batter is most likely swinging away. With one out and a man on third, managers will typically give up an out to get a run. If you're playing that way, you definitely gain an advantage moving from second to third. Reward outweighs the risk there.
With two out, you can't give up an out to score a run, and a single scores a run whether the guy is on second or third. Therefore, you gain almost nothing by moving up, and once again, the risk isn't worth it.
You'll love this
Man on 2nd, nobody out: 1.189 runs
Man on 3rd, nobody out: 1.482 runs
Moving from 2nd to 3rd with nobody out, you improve your run expectancy by 0.293 runs, or 24.6%. Therefore, you have to be successful at least 75% of the time to justify taking the extra base with nobody out.
Man on 2nd, 1 out: 0.725 runs
Man on 3rd, 1 out: 0.983 runs
Moving from 2nd to 3rd with 1 out, you improve your run expectancy by 0.258 runs, or 35.6%. Therefore, you have to be successful at least 65% of the time to justify taking the extra base with 1 out.
Man on 2nd, 2 out: 0.344 runs
Man on 3rd, 2 out: 0.387 runs
Moving from 2nd to 3rd with 2 outs, you improve your run expectancy by 0.043 runs, or 12.5%. Therfore you have to be successful at least 88% of the time to justify taking the extra base with 2 out.
The old schoolers are kinda right on this one.
I do love it
by ken on May 4, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Outs are precious
by ken on May 4, 2007 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Preaching to the choir
i liked the play
by rose2hall on May 4, 2007 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Three in a row have reached
That's phenomenal
Sounds like a drinking game.
if you took a drink every time he referenced AZ, how many innings would you make it before passing out? Could you make it to the 2nd inning?
i'm in let's start it now
aflac
Brady Anderson
even my wife
can't figure out what annoys me more
by rose2hall on May 4, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
i believe that
Louisville 2, Ottawa 7
Call him up, he's ready!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
I'm trying to sell my Xbox 360...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
I'd accept a 20 dollar loss on my 360...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn't sell it to a Nigerian, did you?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
Griffey put a charge into that ball!
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
Hell yes, Junior!!!!!!
all time top ten
Bonds
Ruth
Mays
Sosa
Robinson
McGwire
Killebrew
Palmeiro
Junior
Pretty nice company
theres 4 juicers on that list
re: ross
Ugh
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
For who?
Someone who didn't pitch yesterday
by ken on May 4, 2007 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No, no
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
I only went to a 3-0 count...
True Story...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions
I want to go back to Little League
Honestly...
Hunch I guess.
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:05 PM EDT reply actions
Really?
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
OK
Bull shit play by the Reds...
'
And that sometimes is when you are playing the Reds.
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
And I was thinking before the game...
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when does throwin a fastball in the dirt
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions
Bucky Fuckin' Dent...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
Bucky Fuckin' Dent...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:20 PM EDT reply actions
Ah...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The time of the night is indeed right for a little
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Nice to see.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Coutlangus gets the job done

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
Where do you find
Agree or disagree with the sac bunt?
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
Glad it worked out
Yeah.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Then again...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
S-hat...
Arghh..
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
I'm warming up to him
That's T.S.F.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Get it started, Edwin...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Hmm...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
DAMMIT
What happened?
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillips
tanks.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dreaded Eighth
The worst possible inning if you root for the Red
It makes leads disappear, because no lead is safe
When our bullpen appears in the inning called eighth
No lead is safe, no lead secure
When our bulls start spreading their style of manure
So when you're done stretching from inning number seven
Never forget they're not sent from heaven
So when the seventh is over and you start to think
What now shall we do? Just start to drink
BOHICA my friends will be with us soon
And God help us all if we have a full moon
So when that time is nigh and we have all to fear
Pray very hard then reach for more beer
Please don't do something to make us spew hate
When the Reds take the field in the Dreaded Eighth
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!
A classic post.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Post of the week
started thinking about it
LF got a perfect bounce off the wall...
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
great bounce
I mean, the guy had the ball before Phillips
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
Hey...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
I got some of those Coors Light Bottles...
Those are pretty cool!
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
Get it started, Ross.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the 8th wasn't so bad...
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
I just got this in my email...
with a distinctive, unvarnished writing style. This will at times alienate
some people. His long, passion-filled posts are his trademark â€" yet
have caused times when he has been banned from Reds sites. NEILYNG
simply dismisses this as par for the course, "If you really are going to go
beyond a discussion like 'Adam Dunn is so cool' â€" then not everyone
is going to agree with what you are saying. That has never ever been my
aim and I think that is absolutely fine. Differences should not only be
allowed, they should be encouraged. Some see these differences as
something that should be banned. When I think about what is apparent with
these people who have such a problem with me, I receive this affirmation
rush that just tells me I'm really on the right track. I will never
choose to post stuff that keeps me in the middle of the road, and if that
gets me banned, so what. It should be clear to anyone with half !
a brain that I have never really gone anywhere. These bans don't mean
anything, I don't stop posting.†He went on to say, â€oeThese people
who have a problem with me are about as deep as a bird-bath. They can't
control discussion on the Internet. They can't be so controlling as to
keep me or anyone else from pointing out that Adam Dunn is not a
wonderfully great player. God knows his performance speaks for itself. They
can try â€" but that just shows how stupid they are to even try."
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
Is that a diatribe?
i have to go with diatribe
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin diatriba, from Greek diatribE pastime, discourse, from diatribein to spend (time), wear away, from dia- + tribein to rub -- more at THROW
1 archaic : a prolonged discourse
2 : a bitter and abusive speech or writing
3 : ironic or satirical criticism
Diatribe it is
I like "manifesto."
Deranged people have manifestos.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If you look at his whole wiki entry
by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a no
Interestingly, this is taken directly from the wiki entry.
by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
you saw that too, huh.
Some (all?)
So he took the time to send me something...
Lazy Lazy Lazy...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
How's about the first walk off home run...
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Hey guys...
Nice of you to join us
Griffey schooled the youngster on that one...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Extra innings
Anybody else need a beer while I'm up?
I love extra innings
It looks like some rain is heading that way. SHould be there for the 13th
It's a shame...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
You know what's great about 40 year old relievers?
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
Does the pickoff count?
by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Todd Helton enter...
by sm00th kw on May 4, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
I was just thinking...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If Stanton could, I don't know...
Let the crapfest begin.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, Clint Hurdle
Gotta get those runners in scoring position for Yorvit Torrealba.
Dear Clint Hurdle,
I guess
Whoo Hoo!!!
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet Jesus
Not really
OK.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees are down 15-11 in the ninth...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
It was ugly
Poor Colter Bean. I know he's not as bad as his major league stats. He walked two batters on his first eight pitches tonight. He's a decent AAA pitcher, but somehow, whenever he gets a callup, he sucks like a black hole.
Some players just can't deal with the bright lights of Broadway, I guess. Aaron Boone was kinda like that.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
Boone
by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That hit...
But...he was lucky. It was Wakefield on the mound. Wakefield is a knuckleballer. Even he doesn't know where his pitches will go. Sometimes he serves up big, fat meatballs, and any major league hitter will smack them out of the park. That time, it happened to be Boonie.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
You know the funny thing?
Makes you sick doesn't it...
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Send him...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
THom: "That's a beautiful swing
Don't let dad hear you say that.
He can't f*cking win
"Step 1: Get runner on third"
by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Gonzales is faster.
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
Cmon Hobbs
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Just a couple strippers
by Brendanukkah on May 4, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dear...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Man
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named "Bubba"?
WLW Promo:
Yeah, that's called an aneurysm. That happens if you listen to Bill Cunningham for an extended period.
Either that...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea.
Apparently he's warmed up and ready to go.
Might be a good time to go with Santos...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
Nah, let's try Weathers first
Hey,,,
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That was not good.
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else think we'd be better off with..
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
Need new thread...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
It's awesome being a Reds fan!
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
im with jd
Ross, Valentin... Castro?
Grab your ankles...
by Paul Householder on May 4, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
What the Hell was Ross doing?
by chandrathan on May 4, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Game Thread, Part II
Krivsky
by HokieRed on May 4, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions

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