Denorfia needs Tommy John surgery

by cesarhernandez on Mar 29, 2007 5:31 PM EDT Comment 52 comments

From John Fay's blog:

Jerry Narron and Wayne Krivsky just announced the following:

--Chris Denorfia needs "Tommy John" surgery.
--Bobby Livingston and and Gary Majewski were optioned to Louisville.
--Jeff Keppinger, Bill Bray and Elizardo Ramirez go on the DL and will rehab in the Floirda.
--Jerry Gil, Denorfia and Eddie Guardado go on the DL and come north with the team.
--Either Matt Belisle or Kirk Saarloos will be the fifth starter.
--The last position player will be Norris Hopper or Chad Moeller.
--The last relief positions will go to a two of these three: Victor Santos, Jon Courlangus or Jared Burton.

Too bad for Deno. Although I like that Burton and Coutlangus might make the team

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wow

what??? where the hell did that come from?

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

it's kind of unnerving

They said his arm hurt, but it wasn't considered serious. Now he's getting Tommy John surgery. Did they really not know how serious it was, or were they keeping it quiet, even though they suspected it could be bad?

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

kremchek

poked too hard with his stick

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn it, Boobs!!

definitely the only time I'm saying that this weekend.

and that is why we need Eddie Van Halen.

by Man Mountain on Mar 29, 2007 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome

to Reds fandom!!

Please let me take your coat. I'll just put in the backroom next to the injury stick.

and that is why we need Eddie Van Halen.

by Man Mountain on Mar 29, 2007 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not just Reds fandom

Last week, Yankees ace Chien-Ming Wang had "a cramp" while working out. A day or two later, we find out it's a hamstring strain, and he'll be out at least a month.

Early last season, pitcher Darrel Rasner had some arm soreness while working out. It wasn't serious; they weren't even going to put him on the DL. He ended up missing almost the entire season with tendinitis.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Denorfia

Suppose he thinks ST is too long? He hurt his arm last Friday.

by pw on Mar 29, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That sucks.

I'd rather have Crosby than Hopper or Moeller. And I'd much rather have Deno than all of them.

That said, I'm happy with Coutlangus and Jared Burton on the team. We need some damn youth, even if it means a few more losses this year.

by Geki on Mar 29, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i would prefer

santos and coutlangus, sending burton back to oakland.

wow, norris hopper is one spot away from making this team. that is hard for me to believe.

no matter, it's going to be another effing 3-catcher summer. jesus christ.

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely

Moeller's making the team regardless

"Sometimes life kicks you in the teeth, kids.....even when you're eating cake"- obc

by sukr on Mar 29, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

repeat after me

Moeller sucks.

I've been telling Slyde and his peers that for years.

by obc on Mar 29, 2007 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

repeat after me

Moeller sucks.

I've been telling Slyde and his peers that for years.

by obc on Mar 29, 2007 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok...I'll play along

Moeller sucks.

I've been telling Slyde and his peers that for years.

Oh, well you know what, I found the card, actually, they're from your mom, so tell your gay mom I said thanks!

by chandrathan on Mar 29, 2007 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

stupid Blackberry

I was distracted. Adult brother/sister fight in aisle two, and I had ringside seats.

by obc on Mar 29, 2007 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This time

Its hard for me to argue with you.

by TheC on Mar 29, 2007 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree....repeatedly

But kDog wakes up every morning and eats the same breakfast after putting on the same sweater, day in, day out. Why would he change now? He's not given to pants made from animals, alcoholic blowouts with his skank, and general erratic behavior. Moeller makes the team or i'm a baby harang's uncle

"Sometimes life kicks you in the teeth, kids.....even when you're eating cake"- obc

by sukr on Mar 29, 2007 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moller Sucks

but hes going to make the team

by OURob on Mar 29, 2007 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

And I think it was going to be Moeller even before Deno got hurt.

To be fair, Moeller's had a pretty good spring training.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

To be fair

In his previous 1200+ regular season plate appearances, Chad Moeller has sucked out loud.

2007 Reds Threat Level is Yellow

by Slyde on Mar 29, 2007 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And...

He has sucked more than Coutlangus, who really deserves the roster spot.

Don't mind me...just thinking positive and pitching to contact, that's all...

by Paul Householder on Mar 29, 2007 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope Coutlangus makes the team

But he was never in competition with Moeller. They were never going to carry 13 pitchers.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although...

Coutlangus must have sucked before also, just not as much as Moeller.

I think, though, that once Dick Pole got involved with Coutlangus, he stopped.

Slyde, do you have any thoughts on this?

Don't mind me...just thinking positive and pitching to contact, that's all...

by Paul Householder on Mar 29, 2007 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

I've always felt that Coutlangus would be a good test for Dick Pole. If Coutlangus succeeds then Dick Pole will be able to slide right in to the pitching coach position. However, if Coutlangus fails, then Dick Pole might as pack up and go home because his day is done.

What I don't get is that it is unlike a Moeller man to block Coutlangus. I've got to say that I'm baffled on this one.

2007 Reds Threat Level is Yellow

by Slyde on Mar 29, 2007 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If/when

Coutlangus fails, just politely tap Dick Pole on his head. He'll know he's overstayed his welcome.

"Sometimes life kicks you in the teeth, kids.....even when you're eating cake"- obc

by sukr on Mar 29, 2007 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sometimes

i wonder why dick pole doesnt mount the mound right away.

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but this is this spring

maybe hamilton got him some roids.

come on, the rest of you haven't at least wondered?

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not with as much as he is drug tested

I know he is being tested for Cocaine, but steriods would show up too i would think. Plus he is naturally strong. He hasn't really added to his body, he didn't pull a Sammy Sosa.

by justin0070000 on Mar 29, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

there is no test

for hgh.

and i didnt see him when he was 18, so i can't attest to how much he's added to his body.

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HGH

I don't think Hamilton's on HGH. I hope he's learned his lesson about drugs of all kinds.

But yeah, HGH is undetectable, at least so far. And it sounds like something that would really help a baseball player. Not only does it build muscle, it improves your eyesight. Some people who use it say they don't need their glasses any more. I would imagine sharper vision would be a huge help to a batter.

It sure seemed to help Gary Matthews Jr. :-P

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just to be clear

i dont think so either. im just sayin... am i the only one whose mind this has crossed?

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have no qualms...

Nor doubt about the statement.

Unequivocally, Moeller sucks.

Don't mind me...just thinking positive and pitching to contact, that's all...

by Paul Householder on Mar 29, 2007 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever, Bomber

Who are the current state champs in Ohio basketball and who finished in second place?

2007 Reds Threat Level is Yellow

by Slyde on Mar 29, 2007 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obviously...

You must have an inferiority complex.

I meant Chad Moeller, not your alma mater...

Don't mind me...just thinking positive and pitching to contact, that's all...

by Paul Householder on Mar 29, 2007 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh.

:-)

Don't mind me...just thinking positive and pitching to contact, that's all...

by Paul Householder on Mar 29, 2007 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Probably

;)

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by Slyde on Mar 29, 2007 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

obviously...

...they have to keep Coutlangus on the roster, just because it's so much fun to talk about Coutlangus on the mound.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moeller may suck...

But at least he's good at it!

Oh, well you know what, I found the card, actually, they're from your mom, so tell your gay mom I said thanks!

by chandrathan on Mar 29, 2007 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know Denorfia's

elbow was that badly messed up, either. That's all the detail I got now.

by cesarhernandez on Mar 29, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sucks for Deno

I agree that he's more valuable to the team than Hopper. But I'd also rather see Hopper come up with the team than Moeller. On days when he plays, he has the bat control that everyone wants in #2 hitter.

I think Burton should definitely get one of the spots in the 'pen. He's certainly earned the right to get the Hamilton treatment. The club can afford to give him a run at least through April and see how he does in the Show. I would take Santos too. Much as everyone enjoys Coutlangus, I think we can put him off a little longer.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 29, 2007 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Only Jerry Narron...

...Would possibly think hitting Norris Hopper 2nd is a good idea. Are you Jerry Narron?

by Geki on Mar 29, 2007 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the Reds

break camp with 3 catchers, I'm taking a 3-iron to something in my apartment.

I'm looking at you, Hello Kitty Snow Globe.

and that is why we need Eddie Van Halen.

by Man Mountain on Mar 29, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dora....meet 7 iron

Dora's plastic clipboard is all teed up at my place....

Is any other team going with three C's this season?

by obc on Mar 29, 2007 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What are the last pen spots?

Weathers, Stanton, CormierBLAH, Coffey...I guess it means no Hermanson? That's shocking. Even more shocking that all three of the candidates are young guys. Actually, a lot of this is shocking - Deno, Hopper/Moeller... I really thought we would not carry three catchers, like Wayno finally was going to get it right. But Narron had hinted at making Milton number 5, so it's VERY disappointing that Belisle and Saarloos are up for that spot instead of 3rd or 4th.

When Bray and/or Majewski get back, my guess is that Cormier will be gone.

Are we there yet?

by Daedalus on Mar 29, 2007 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

there

should still be room for hermanson...

(copied from kyle's diary and altered to suit the day's events)
Rotation (5)
1 Harang
2 Arroyo
3 Lohse
4 Belisle
5 Milton

Bullpen (7)
1 Coffey
2 Weathers
3 Hermanson
4 Stanton
5 Cormier
6 Saarloos
7 Coutlangus, Burton or Santos

Catchers (3)
1 Ross
2 Valentin
3 Moeller

Infielders (6)
1 Encarnacion
2 Phillips
3 Gonzalez
4 Hatteberg
5 Conine
6 Castro

Outfield (4)
1 Dunn
2 Freel
3 Griffey
4 Hamilton

I still say go with 13 pitchers this early, since quite a few of them could show promise. But that won't happen. Moeller's presence will squeeze Santos and Coutlangus, probably.

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but...

...Fay says two out of Coutlangus, Burton or Santos will make the team.

Does that mean either Saarloos or Belisle doesn't?

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fay sez?

Where's your head?

"Sometimes life kicks you in the teeth, kids.....even when you're eating cake"- obc

by sukr on Mar 29, 2007 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

i think fay (shocker) got it wrong.

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I suspect it's going to come down to options

They'll send down whoever they can.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 29, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

clarify

i guess it's possible that the loser between saarloos and belisle doesnt make it, but i doubt it. fay probably counted wrong.

And in the end the love you take is equal to the love you make.

by boobs on Mar 29, 2007 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Livingston Should be on this Team

It is a shame to see him go down, no one can tell me Milty is better.
Matt Belisle over Kirk Saarloos, please.
Deno being gone for the for-seeable future makes the argument that Hopper should be on this team, esp over tooth-ake, come on. Jon Courlangus and Jared Burton for the bullpen. And can anyone tell me why Gil is not with the Bats yet? wouldn't he be the starting 3rd baseman down there?

GO REDS!

by ewquinn on Mar 29, 2007 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He didn't make it because.....

"Livingston's numbers compared far more favorably than fellow lefty Eric Milton (6.59 ERA), who was already locked into either the third or fourth spot. But there was little chance of Livingston displacing Milton, who is making $9 million this season. Milton is also an experienced veteran while Livingston has only three big-league games under his belt without a win." -mlb.com

he is young and cheap!

by rose2hall on Mar 30, 2007 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs