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Game thoughts: Reds lose to Houston 7-3

Never really felt like a game the Reds oughta win, even after they went up 2-0.

Quick thoughts:

  • Chris Michalek pitched pretty decently, but Narron shouldn't have brought him back out in the seventh. He'd walked a lot of hitters and seemed to be struggling as the game went on. I honestly have no idea why Narron wouldn't have stepped into the bullpen to start the seventh, except that he must have completely ignored what was going on and simply focused on the fact that Michalek had thrown six innings of one run ball and decide that he'd "earned" the right to go back out for the seventh. It's obviously better to be proactive, but that's just something that Narron isn't.
  • With that being said, it's possible that Coffey would have done ok if he'd started the seventh. He seems to really struggle when he's brought on in pressure situations, but Narron keeps using him there anyway. The one big positive effect a manager can have on a team (performance wise anyway as opposed to morale wise) is to put players in their best possible position to succeed. It doesn't seem like that means high stress situations for Coffey, so it'd be a good idea to only bring him in when there's no baserunners and the game isn't tight, for awhile at least. I think Coffey will get over it eventually, but we're in a pennant race right now, and so this isn't the time to work through things.
  • Rheal Cormier doesn't strike me as being a very good pitcher. Good thing the Reds have him locked up through next season.
  • Ken Griffey Jr. now has an eight game hitting streak. He seems to be quietly coming around. Getting him in working order could be the difference between playoffs and sitting at home, so it's good to see.
  • Just to repeat: Chris Michalek pitched well. No idea where all the hand wringing over the guy in the game thread is coming from. He's the fifth starter and he went 6 and 1/3 and gave up two runs. I'll take that every single time from the fifth guy in the rotation. Have people so quickly forgotten Dave Williams? Joe Mays?
  • I was listening to the game so I didn't see any of the calls, but if anyone did see then feel free to chime in on how bad the umpire actually was because I'm curious.
  • It was Roy Oswalt. The Reds still won the series. The way they lost wasn't much fun, but this isn't that big of a deal. 4-2 is a solid homestand. The last few days constitutes the high point of the season for me so far. The west coast is looming, and the Reds rarely fare well out there, so enjoy things now. Who knows where we'll be sitting in a week? Things are probably about to get stressful again, but for now everything is pretty good in Reds country.

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I sit in the bleachers so granted my view is skewed but after about 50 games I feel I've got a pretty good guess of the strikes, there were a bunch of pitches that just weren't getting called.  I think Coffey had every right to be pissed, however I agree w/ JD that he really has been terrible w/ runners on lately.

I'm really encouraged about Griffey, today he just missed an opposite field HR by a matter of inches, hitting right of the yellow line.  When Griffey starts hitting the other way it's a good indicator that he's coming around.

Mik didn't look too bad to me, although I didn't think he had any business coming out in the 7th (Same thing Jerry did w/ him in Philly right before he gave up a bomb to Howard.)  Mik is a good groundball pitcher so DPs make up for a lot of his mistakes.  He's not going to dominate games but he should get us some Ws esp. against the weaker teams.  

Also, the Giants are trying to close out AZ in the 9th.  Hopefully the Mets, Cubs, and Dodgers will win tonight and we can start tomorrow the place we started today.

by JCH888 on Aug 23, 2006 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad Calls
The strike zone calling was pretty bad all game, but really culminated in the 7th.  In the AB in question, Coffee had it 1-1.  He then threw a fastball that definitely clipped the corner of the strike zone.  You could see it pass over part of the plate.

Called ball.  Now that particular zone had been getting called a ball all day, so I really didn't have a problem with it (even though it really was a strike).

So now 2-1.  Coffee hits a knee buckling pitch right at the knees, directly over the plate.  No contest.  It's the kind of pitch they've been calling a strike against Adam Dunn all year.  Called ball.

I don't really blame the guy for mouthing off to the ump.  All inning he was making bad ball/strike calls, and that one was the worst.  Would've been nice to see Todd body slam the ump.  He had at least a foot on the guy.

by Obi Juan Kenobez on Aug 23, 2006 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone check Rheal's arm.
I'm serious, that's the sad thing.

by Ash on Aug 23, 2006 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

the Rheal World - Cincinnati
Slyde, I've been waiting to make that "stop being polite and start being Rheal" joke for weeks, but I never seem to be around when he's in. Well done.

by Red Menace on Aug 23, 2006 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, but
I screwed it up.  I couldn't remember the exact wording and I think I said "stop being nice" - DAMNIT! I always screw up some mundane detail.

by Slyde on Aug 23, 2006 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

think elaborate
"the true story of twelve pitchers, forced to live in a bullpen...

by Red Menace on Aug 23, 2006 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding the bad calls,
I am forced to watch the Houston broadcast and even they thought they were bad calls. As pointed out before the 1-1 pitch could have gone either way, the 2-1 pitch seemed like a good pitch. The Astros crew couldn't figure out how it was not called a strike.

by Haf on Aug 23, 2006 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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