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All Decade Team

Less Than Zero for the Zeroes - Worst Reds of the Decade

Unfortunately, several Reds phoned in their performance this decade.

With all of the attention recently focused on the all-time great Reds and best Reds of the decade, I'm feeling a little disconnected from reality after rooting for a team that hasn't had a winning season since 2000.  So what brought us down this decade?  Or more specifically, who?   Below is my highly subjective list.  My cutoff was 300 PAs or 200 IP (higher threshold for pitching due to the variability).  I looked only at performance and tried to divorce the player's salary or expectations from the list.  So who do you think was the biggest stinker for the decade? 

  1. Jose Acevado.  304.3 IP, 222/97/58 K/BB/HR, 5.59 ERA, 5.86 RA, 5.17 FIP.  Like Jose Rijo, Acevado is related to Juan Marichal.  Like Eric Milton, Acevado gave up a historic number of homeruns.  One of those facts is more relevant than the other.

  2. Juan Castro.  .237/.276/.353/.628, 61 OPS+, .269 wOBA, -4.6 WAR.  Easily the WAR "leader" here, I can't get too worked up about Manos given that he accumulated it over several years and rarely played as a regular.  Plus, TotalZone is particularly harsh on Castro.  FanGraphs has him at about a zero WAR for his Reds tenure.  Negative rating or no, the Fiastro defines the Narron legacy as well as any single event in my mind.

  3. Ryan Dempster.  204.3 IP, 150/108/40 K/BB/HR, 6.39 ERA, 6.61 RA, 5.27 FIP.  Maybe the most infuriating player on the list.  Dempster had two decent years with Florida before coming to the Reds in a trade for Juan Encarnacion and others in July 2002.  After 1.5 years of injurious suckitude, Chicago took a free agent flier on Dempster, patiently waited for him to rehab, and then enjoyed about 12 WAR since.

  4. Brandon Larson.  332 PA, 570 OPS, 49 OPS+, .258 wOBA, -1.4 WAR.  Why it's important to look at a prospect's age as well as his performance. 

  5. Eric Milton.  370.3 IP, 231/103/73 K/BB/HR, 5.83 ERA, 6.23 RA, 5.34 FIP.  Signing a flyball pitcher coming off a flukishly good 14-6 season was not a good idea.  Paying him so much that you made the Yankees flinch made it an awful idea.  Milton's K/BB ratio was actually tolerable, but by his nature he allowed a lot of HRs and balls in play.  It didn't help that two statues were playing in the outfield. 

  6. Corey Patterson.  392 PA, .205/.238/.344/.582, 50 OPS+, .238 wOBA, -1.0 WAR.  I was originally going to make my cutoff 400 PAs but lowered it to include Two-Pitch AtBaterson.  Talking about the worst Reds of the decade without him would be like talking about the worst U2 albums and not mentioning Zooropa.  It might not be the worst, but it has to be in the discussion.  Anyways, it's pretty rare to have that low of an OBP.  Including Patterson only five players have had an OBP lower than .250 in as much playing time.  Two of the other four turned the trick before joining the Reds.

  7. Willy Taveras.  437 PA, .240/.275/.285/.559, 48 OPS+, .247 wOBA, +0.4 WAR.  Offensively it's about a wash between Wee Willy and Corey.  Taveras had a better OBP and SB numbers (25/6 versus 14/9), but Patterson had much more slugging.  TotalZone likes Taveras' fielding much more than RZR (14.1 RZR/150 games), though both WARs give Taveras an advantage (per Fangraphs: -0.3 for Taveras, -1.2 for Patterson). 
Poll
Worst Red of the decade?
Jose Acevedo
7 votes
boobs
53 votes
Juan Castro
4 votes
Ryan Dempster
25 votes
Brandon Larson
57 votes
Eric Milton
262 votes
Corey Patterson
174 votes
Willy Taveras
86 votes

668 votes | Poll has closed

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Heroes of the Zeros: The 25-Man Roster

After 3 weeks of voting and 10 years of suffering, we've finally come to the point where we can reveal the Cincinnati Reds All Decade Team for the two thousand and aughts.  But before we get to that, let's take a look at some numbers for the Reds in the Aughts.

The Reds finished the decade with a dismal 751-869 (.464) record.  With an average record of 75-87, they managed to have a better record than only 7 teams during the decade (Can you name all 7?). They scored 7442 runs during the decade, tied for 21st in the Majors (9th in the NL) with Kansas City.  The surrendered 8248 runs, which was the 2nd most in the NL behind Colorado and 6th most overall.  Their run differential for the decade gives them an expected pythagorean record of 732-888.  So, even with as bad as they were, they were still "lucky" for the decade.  Yeesh.

Some other numbers:

  • 46,971,462 people purchased tickets to see the Reds play during the decade (at home and on the road combined).
  • The Reds hit the most home runs in the NL during the decade (1909).
  • They also allowed the most home runs in the Majors at 2025 - over 80 more than the next closest team.
  • The Reds hit just 227 triples during the decade, the fewest in the NL.
  • Only one team struck out more than the Reds' total of 11,878 and that was the Milwaukee Brewers (12,268).  Oddly enough, they were both the top two teams in reaching on catcher's interference (Brewers - 14; Reds - 11).
  • The Reds had the fewest sacrifice flies in the Majors and were 9th in sacrifice hits.  It's gotta be the little things, right?
  • Defensively, the Reds were a mixed bag.  They turned the 5th most double plays in the league, but also committed the 3rds most errors.
  • The Reds were one of nine teams to not turn a triple play during the decade.  The did hit into 2 of them though.
  • Reds pitchers finished 12th in the NL in strikeouts, 9th in walks, and 8th in hit batsmen.
  • Reds catchers surrendered the most passed balls in the NL (140) and their pitchers had the 2nd most wild pitches (565).
  • Winning percentage-wise, this was the second-worst (arbitrary) decade in Reds history.  The Reds were 664-866 (.434) during the 1930s, and that's even after they went a combined 179-125 in 1938-1939. 
  • This has been the worst 10-year stretch since 1947-1956, when the Reds went 710-828 (.462).  However, it only the 19th worst 10-year period in the team's history. As bad we had it this past decade, nothing matches how bad it was from 1928-1937 when they went 629-903 (.410). 

View the 25-man roster after the jump, if you aren't throwing up in your trash can already.

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Heroes of the Zeros: Pinch Hitters

We round out our All Decade team with a a couple of pinch hitters, one from the right side and one from the left side.  Unlike past polls, the numbers listed below are only for that player as a pinch hitter, which is why some of them are so lousy.  You can take the player's entire batting numbers into account, if you'd like, but I figured I'd only show them as pinch hitters in this instance.  Lefty pinch hitters and the ballots are after the  jump.

Other ballots: Starting Rotation | Bullpen | Catcher | First base | Second base | Third base | Shortstop | Left Field | Center Field | Right Field | Utility Players

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RH PH PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO BA OBP SLG OPS wOBA
Brady Clark 100 84 20 5 0 1 13 12 1 10 .238 .330 .333 .663 .324
Wily Mo Pena 71 68 12 1 0 3 11 2 0 31 .176 .211 .324 .535 .232
Norris Hopper 51 42 15 1 0 0 4 5 0 7 .357 .420 .381 .801 .357
Ruben Mateo 45 39 3 0 0 1 2 5 0 12 .077 .200 .154 .354 .180
Alex Ochoa 44 38 7 2 0 0 5 4 1 8 .184 .273 .237 .510 .267
Andy Phillips 37 36 9 0 0 2 6 1 0 8 .250 .270 .417 .687 .345

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Heroes of the Zeros: Right Field

The Reds had quite an interesting mix of right fielders during the past decade.  There were a couple of old guys, a couple of phenom prospects, a couple of perennial backups, and a guy looking for redemption.  As far as depth of position goes, right field might be the deepest position the Reds have had this decade, which also makes it a tougher decision for all of you.  This may be the first position that I'm not certain who you'll pick.  Ballot is after the jump.

Other ballots: Starting Rotation | Bullpen | Catcher | First base | Second base | Third base | Shortstop | Left Field | Center Field

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Years G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ wOBA WAR
Dante Bichette 2000 125 514 461 67 136 27 2 16 76 41 69 .295 .353 .466 .819 103 .350 0.5
Jay Bruce 2008-2009 209 839 758 110 182 32 3 43 110 71 185 .240 .309 .460 .769 98 .328 0.6
Jacob Cruz 2004-2005 206 312 274 34 63 18 0 7 46 32 89 .230 .321 .372 .693 81 .304 -0.6
Jose Guillen 2002-2003 122 467 424 64 133 24 1 27 79 24 81 .314 .363 .566 .929 142 .387 3.7
Todd Hollandsworth 2006 34 74 68 6 18 6 0 1 8 6 19 .265 .324 .397 .721 81 .319 -0.2
Austin Kearns 2002-2006 452 1835 1593 248 426 92 7 71 263 206 412 .267 .358 .468 .826 113 .357 10.8
Ruben Mateo 2002-2003 120 318 293 27 72 15 0 5 25 18 73 .246 .299 .348 .647 71 .287 -1.2
Alex Ochoa 2000-2001 208 654 593 98 178 41 7 20 93 48 80 .300 .354 .494 .848 111 .361 3.1
Wily Mo Pena 2002-2005 302 898 830 108 206 33 2 51 134 54 288 .248 .303 .477 .780 101 .331 0.5
Michael Tucker 2000-2001 234 588 501 86 128 23 5 22 66 67 119 .255 .348 .453 .801 100 .344 2.1
John Vander Wal 2004 42 55 51 2 6 2 0 2 4 4 20 .118 .182 .275 .456 17 .201 -0.7
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used Generated 12/23/2009.
WAR data made available from BaseballProjection.com
wOBA calculated via the formula included in The Book and does not include SB data.

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Heroes of the Zeros: Center Field

In February of 2000 the Reds traded for Ken Griffey Jr. and locked up their center fielder for the next decade to an 8-year deal.  Or so they thought.  Injuries and declining play meant that Griffey only started 36% of the games in CF for the decade.  Does he still deserve to be the starting CF on the All Decade Team?  That's for you to decide!  Ballot after the jump.

Other ballots: Starting Rotation | Bullpen | Catcher | First base | Second base | Third base | Shortstop | Left Field

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Years G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ wOBA WAR
Darren Bragg 2004 38 103 94 11 18 3 1 4 9 8 29 .191 .255 .372 .627 61 .263
0.3
Chris Denorfia 2005-2006 67 164 144 22 40 9 0 2 9 17 30 .278 .358 .382 .740 90 .326
1.1
Juan Encarnacion 2002 83 354 321 43 89 11 2 16 51 26 63 .277 .330 .474 .804 106 .343
1.6
Ryan Freel 2003-2008 544 2146 1873 294 509 97 17 22 114 210 323 .272 .357 .377 .734 91 .329
6.4
Ken Griffey 2000-2008 945 3904 3353 533 904 173 8 210 602 476 673 .270 .362 .514 .876 122 .362
11.4
Josh Hamilton 2007 90 337 298 52 87 17 2 19 47 33 65 .292 .368 .554 .922 131 .383
2.7
Norris Hopper 2006-2008 168 440 396 60 125 15 2 1 20 31 43 .316 .367 .371 .738 90 .325
2.9
Brian Hunter 2000 32 48 40 11 9 1 0 0 1 6 9 .225 .319 .250 .569 46 .266
0.4
Corey Patterson 2008 135 392 366 46 75 17 2 10 34 16 57 .205 .238 .344 .582 50 .248
-1.0
Ruben Rivera 2001 117 290 263 37 67 13 1 10 34 21 83 .255 .321 .426 .747 87 .324
0.9
Jason Romano 2004-2005 41 63 56 6 12 2 0 2 6 5 19 .214 .290 .357 .647 69 .285
-0.3
Drew Stubbs 2009 42 196 180 27 48 5 1 8 17 15 49 .267 .323 .439 .762 99 .330
1.7
Willy Taveras 2009 102 437 404 56 97 11 2 1 15 18 58 .240 .275 .285 .559 48 .247
0.4
Reggie Taylor 2002-2003 235 505 467 58 112 20 6 14 57 25 147 .240 .281 .398 .679 76 .286
0.0
Dewayne Wise 2006-2007 36 46 43 4 8 2 1 0 2 1 7 .186 .205 .279 .484 21 .186
-0.8
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used Generated 12/22/2009.
WAR data made available from BaseballProjection.com
wOBA calculated via the formula included in The Book and does not include SB data.

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Heroes of the Zeros: Left Field

Of all of the positions on the All Decade Team, this one should be the clearest no-brainer.  One person started 53% of the games in LF during the decade and had the best offensive numbers.  The Reds did have some decent other hitters in LF, but none of them had the playing time to match up in my opinion.

Ballot is after the jump.

Other ballots: Starting Rotation | Bullpen | Catcher | First base | Second base | Third base | Shortstop

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Years G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ wOBA WAR
Wladimir Balentien 2009 40 125 110 12 29 7 1 3 11 15 27 .264 .352 .427 .779 104 .345
0.5
Russell Branyan 2002-2003 158 460 393 56 91 21 1 25 65 61 155 .232 .337 .481 .818 112 .348
2.2
Jolbert Cabrera 2008 48 126 115 17 29 6 1 3 12 8 29 .252 .310 .400 .710 84 .305
-0.3
Brady Clark 2000-2002 151 242 206 29 47 7 0 6 29 28 27 .228 .325 .350 .674 73 .291
-0.6
Chris Dickerson 2008-2009 128 421 357 51 101 22 5 8 30 56 101 .283 .383 .440 .823 116 .361
2.7
Adam Dunn 2001-2008 1087 4562 3727 678 920 192 8 270 646 755 1212 .247 .380 .520 .900 130 .376
22.2
Jason Ellison 2007 37 56 48 7 9 1 0 1 2 5 15 .188 .278 .271 .549 41 .247
0.3
Jonny Gomes 2009 98 314 281 39 75 17 0 20 51 26 85 .267 .338 .541 .879 127 .367
0.6
Quinton McCracken 2006 45 60
53
5
11
1
1 1
2
4
9
.208 .263 .321 .584 47 .247
0.2
Darnell McDonald 2009 47 111 105 12 28 6 1 2 10 5 31 .267 .306 .400 .706 84 .309
-0.3
Laynce Nix 2009 116 337 309 42 74 26 1 15 46 22 81 .239 .291 .476 .767 98 .318
2.0
Deion Sanders 2001 32 83 75 6 13 2 0 1 4 4 10 .173 .235 .240 .475 21 .215
-1.0
Dernell Stenson 2003 37 93 81 14 20 5 0 3 13 11 24 .247 .333 .420 .753 100 .331
0.8
Dmitri Young 2000-2001 294 1179 1088 136 329 65 9 39 157 73 157 .302 .348 .486 .835 108 .350
1.4
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used Generated 12/22/2009.
WAR data made available from BaseballProjection.com
wOBA calculated via the formula included in The Book and does not include SB data.

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Heroes of the Zeros: Shortstop

All of you people who have been saying, "Wow, this has to be the worst position ever," here's the list you've been waiting for.  It's kind of funny that coming into the aughts, the Reds were riding basically 48 straight seasons with 4 starting SS, all of pretty good quality.  Since then, well, not so much.  Good luck finding a worthy starter in this list.  I really have no idea who is going to win this one. Voting is after the jump.

Other ballots: Starting Rotation | Bullpen | Catcher | First base | Second base | Third base

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Years G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ wOBA WAR
Juan Castro 2000-2008 571 1469 1361 130 323 70 6 25 125 76 244 .237 .276 .353 .628 61 .269
-4.6
Royce Clayton 2006 50 164 149 13 35 8 0 2 13 11 32 .235 .290 .329 .619 56 .274
-0.7
Travis Dawkins 2000-2002 45 99 89 7 15 4 0 0 3 8 28 .169 .237 .213 .451 17 .201
-0.8
Alex Gonzalez 2007-2009 178 700 636 71 158 39 1 19 81 39 111 .248 .299 .403 .702 79 .297
1.5
Wilton Guerrero 2001-2002 119 236 220 25 67 6 2 1 12 9 30 .305 .332 .364 .696 78 .302
-0.7
Jerry Hairston 2008-2009 166 637 568 94 163 38 3 14 63 44 82 .287 .342 .438 .780 103 .334
2.5
Paul Janish 2008-2009 128 381 336 41 69 23 0 2 22 33 58 .205 .290 .292 .582 54 .263
0.9
Jeff Keppinger 2007-2008 188 778 700 84 202 40 4 8 75 54 36 .289 .342 .391 .733 90 .318
1.1
Barry Larkin 2000-2004 473 1850 1646 266 456 106 11 30 167 175 184 .277 .347 .409 .757 95 .329
4.6
Felipe Lopez 2003-2006 371 1566 1384 215 367 73 10 41 159 157 317 .265 .340 .421 .761 97 .331
2.7
Ray Olmedo 2003-2006 171 388 352 39 81 12 2 2 25 24 72 .230 .280 .293 .573 52 .254
-2.3
Chris Sexton 2000 35 118 100 9 21 4 0 0 10 13 12 .210 .310 .250 .560 43 .258
-0.3
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Generated 12/20/2009.

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Heroes of the Zeros: Third Base

During the aughts, the Reds had 39 different players play at least one game at 3B, including Javier Valentin, Jason Larue, Dmitri Young, and Wily Mo Pena.  There was also a fan favorite, a fan whipping boy, and a guy that is more famous for a single swing on another team than anything he did with the Reds.  Who do you think is the starting 3B for the Reds All Decade team?  Vote in the poll after the jump.

Other ballots: Starting Rotation | Bullpen | Catcher | First base | Second base

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Years G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPSOPS+ wOBA WAR
Aaron Boone 2000-2003 455 1889 1681 242 451 101 7 70 257 144 308 .268 .335 .462 .797 103
.339 8.4
Edwin Encarnacion 2005-2009 514 2000 1764 236 462 109 4 71 263 185 364 .262 .345 .449 .793 103
.344 1.4
Tim Hummel 2003-2004 82 219 194 19 43 9 0 3 17 16 30 .222 .285 .314 .599 58
.258 -0.9
Brandon Larson 2001-2004 109 332 291 29 52 11 0 8 37 35 86 .179 .271 .299 .570 49
.258 -1.4
Andy Phillips 2008 52 80 73 11 17 3 0 3 10 6 14 .233 .300 .397 .697 80
.307 -0.2
Joe Randa 2005 92 368 332 44 96 26 1 13 48 33 52 .289 .356 .491 .847 120
.362 1.3
Scott Rolen 2009 40 162 137 24 37 7 1 3 24 19 20 .270 .364 .401 .766 102
.342 0.9
Adam Rosales 2008-2009 105 296 259 23 55 11 1 4 21 27 50 .212 .296 .309 .605 60
.275 -0.3
Chris Stynes 2000 119 420 380 71 127 24 1 12 40 32 54 .334 .386 .497 .883 120
.378 2.5
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Generated 12/18/2009.

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