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Game Thread: Game 162 vs. the Cubs

TIME: 1:15 @ Great American Ball Park
                                       

CUBS PROBABLE:                REDS PROBABLE:
Ted Lilly (15-8, 3.86)             Homer Bailey (3-2, 5.67)

Last game of the year, one last look at Homer Bailey.

After all the indignities we've suffered this season finishing with an eight game losing streak would be pretty fitting, but I still don't want to see it happen. Hopefully Bailey can give us something to look forward to for next season.

Go Reds!

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Don't worry the losing streak is over
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Thirst!
I have sufficiently recovered from Friday after taking it easy last night. How is everyone? And where the hell is the report? I'd write one, but things got fuzzy for me later on. And my writing sucks.
"Before the (Red) Sox were the Sox, they were the Boston Braves and they were scouting my Dad in 1952." -- Dane Cook

by jch24 on Sep 30, 2007 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

not it!
i gotta leave for Belterra here in an hour, so I cant do an Eyewitness Report until late tomorrow at the earliest.  then again, the day after the end of the season seems like a perfect day to read a recap of Friday's events.  Im still pissed there wasnt any engagements to heckle.  i'd say Slyde and C'than and Ash (um, everyone but me, you and sukr) were the most coherent end of evening.  

by obc on Sep 30, 2007 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You weren't paying attention...
There was a proposal on the board. It just didn't happen three rows in front of us.
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 30, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chandrathan had 9 beers...
Which is more than he normally has.

I don't remember much of what happened the next day!

The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Sep 30, 2007 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick FF question
Who should I start - Jay Cutler @ Indy, or Trent Green vs. Oakland at home?

And yes, I know my QBs suck. It's what happens when you get LT, McGahee, and TO. :)

"Before the (Red) Sox were the Sox, they were the Boston Braves and they were scouting my Dad in 1952." -- Dane Cook

by jch24 on Sep 30, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Screw it
I'm starting Cutler, and I'm gonna go mow the lawn.
"Before the (Red) Sox were the Sox, they were the Boston Braves and they were scouting my Dad in 1952." -- Dane Cook

by jch24 on Sep 30, 2007 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have gone
with Green vs Oakland, but I suck at FF
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lilly's on a pitch count today.
Only supposed to go 40 pitches.

So that means he'll only throw seven no-hit innings. Excellent.

by Geki on Sep 30, 2007 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Such a beautiful day for a ball game
reminds me of one of the reason that I love baseball - sitting at the park with the breeze lightly blowing, the sun just right, the crack of the bat and the sound of the ball smacking the mitt. I wish I were at GABP but alas too much work to do. I still think that Homer has some maturing to do but I'd love to see him get on a roll and finish up the season with an impressive win. Go Homer!
How long 'til Spring Training?

by Madville on Sep 30, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

5-0 Marlins
Glavine didn't get out of the first!!!

Randolph can be cleaning out his office the next 8 Innings

Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

any one have the tie breakers?
Is it possible for the Mets to sneak in with a loss?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Phillies lose
They have a play-in game.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

7-0 now, still the first
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sad day
the last game of the season.. When does the countdown clock go back up? It was nice seeing Bruce and Votto on the pre-game. Good things for next season.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it is great
This season for the reds was frustrating and dull, I'm ready to put this season away
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homer is sucking!
come on buddy give us hope for '80 maybe we can be a .500 club?
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

counterpoint
when the Reds are a 90 loss team i actually celebrate the last game of the season.  we've been in wait til next year mode since May and the end of the season just means, to me, we're that much closer to having a competitive team. Possibly.  

 

by obc on Sep 30, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

i understand
The last day is always sad to me especially when the playoffs leave me with no one to root for, only against.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adoption
what team are we adopting for the playoffs?  last year we rode the Tigers to the WS.  

Im probably backing the Red Sox, since I finally made it to Fenway two weeks ago.  

by obc on Sep 30, 2007 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

TRIBE!
But I have college roomies from CLE....I'm torn.

by obc on Sep 30, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they somehow make it in
Rockies for me, I like Watching Matt Holiday hit I think he should be the NL MVP but Wright will most likely get it.

If they don't get inthe Angels because I like that style of baseball.

I hate Cleveland but I would love them to sweep the evil empire, I would hate to watch another Yankees Sox ALCS

Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yankees Sox
would  just suck. I would refuse to watch
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evil Empire?
just asking
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so
After Harang and Bronson the starting rotation and for that matter the whole pitching staff is below average at best. The Offense and bench for next year looks to be solid but I say this team is a 90-100 loss team with or without Dunn
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bailey and Belise step up
Weathers can be solid, BUrton continues what he is doing, McBeth and Bray improve with age. All of that could very well happen, Bailey is going to be a good pitcher at some point, it is just a matter of when.   I am predicting a Mid 4's ERA next season, and 2009 for him to be dominant.

by justin0070000 on Sep 30, 2007 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is "what If-ing" though
I'll play too

what if burton is the next todd coffey{though stats and how he has been solid for more than a month shows that wouldn't hold to be true}

McBeth and Bray have both showed one thing they are shaky and you just can't assume because they are young they will get better

Weathers is the Luckiest Pitcher since Danny Graves BP has made atleast 10 Web Gems in the 9th Inning to bail Weathers out.

You really can't predict what Homer is going to do next season because of the small sample size and he is so young but I hope he isn't a bust.

Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn't tell if Chris & George
were stumping for Pete to get hired full time or not
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

As soon as the last out is recorded
I will start counting down until pitchers and catchers report next February.  I will go to reds.com, cinicnnati.com, and daytondailynews.com, everyday despite the lack of stories.  I will be mildly depressed.  But I will have time for homework.  This season has been tough, but it is better then 1994.

by justin0070000 on Sep 30, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

But...
...they haven't announced the player reporting dates yet, have they?

IIRC, last year they didn't make an announcement until after Christmas last year.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey folks
Good to see the little offense of sCrap is still auditioning for next year.

If the Phillies make it in, I'll be rooting for them, except for Ryan Howard because he strikes out too much. (BTW, I sent Buster Olney an email Friday about the "Howard fixing the hole in his swing" article)

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Um
the pitching hasn't helped the team win either over this losing streak...
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um
Harang struck out 13 yesterday and allowed 4 runs. Bronson gave up 3 earned runs of Friday. The Reds managed exactly 0 runs.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Offense hasn't been great
averaging 2.5 runs over the past 7 games but I think Hopper and Jeff K shouldn't be blamed for that, Coats, Ellison and other players who are not MLB ready have been playing because of injuries and it is garbage time anyway. The Bullpen{Bray and the magic man} have been pretty lame  which i know is surprising
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't thinking about Kepp and Hopp
necessarily. Kepp's gone 7 for 27 during the losing streak with 2 RBI. Hopper went 5 for 23 and he knocked in 2 against San Fran. That's fine.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, we scored a run
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 30, 2007 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

holy crap, multiple runs
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 30, 2007 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Votto
bye hatteberg, it was nice knowing you. What can we get for him?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

boom boom clap
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

hit the leadoff guy next inning..
just do it
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOM BOOM CLAP
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Homer is off the Hook
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOM BOOM CLAP
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Marquis... lookin' good, eh?
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 30, 2007 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

lol yep
looks like his post season just got regulated to mop up duty
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes
If only because he's righthanded.
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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

AFLAC trivia
Who are the 4 people in a Reds uniform who were in a Reds uniform the last season the Reds had a winning record?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Griff and Castro
that's all I got. Coaches?
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea...
Umm Griffey, Castro, Ellison and Pedro Lopez?
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh oh
The apocalypse is upon us. Ellison and Lopez with back to back hits
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hanigan
hat it again
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

3-Run shot for Votto
OWoooh werewolves of London.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Here for the last day
This season seems like it's flown by, which is odd since there were nearly 90 kicks to the crotch.  I guess they all sort of blend together after awhile...

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Kerry Wood in
What's his contract status?  Any chance of getting him for our pen?

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Lead off double
and a wild pitch. I can't think of a more fitting place for Mr. Wood to ply his trade than in the Reds bullpen.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strikeouts out 3 straight
topping 95 mph. Your invitation is revoked, Mr. Wood
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did strike out the side
As long as he can face hitters of the caliber of Coats, Ellison, and Lopez, he'd be a damn fine pitcher.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone's hitting today
Allright, here comes that frog! Maybe he will settle near me.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Buck Coats
picking up Dunn and Griffey's slack...in earning the hat trick.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Cowboy trying to talk Marty off the lodge
re: Homer Bailey. Is it time to panic? This broadcaster says, yes.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

farewell 2007 season
I'm pretty excited about Homer and Votto next year.

by Red Menace on Sep 30, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Me too
And also an itchy Bruce.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep thinking
We need some sort of Highland song called "The Ballad of Billy Bray."

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I know it's the last game
And Homer's pitched pretty well and Votto hit a home run, but dammit, I am really uninspired by this lineup.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

get out of the basement statgeek
we're talking about "inspiration" here. That's something you can't quantify with your slide rulers and counting.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if I told you
that Buck Coats hands out "Fair Play for Cuba" tracts during batting practice?
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh that's Coffey's problem.
He's not MEAN enough.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 30, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was because he has red hair
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he talked about Cueto.
So all is forgiven.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 30, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're hot for the youngsters, eh?
I'm glad you're their age, otherwise it would be creepy.  I think someday you will have to go to a game with sukr and obc.  There will be a 50-50 chance that you will "meet" Bailey or Cueto or the player of your choosing.  The two men are very determined.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh
Throwing error on Elpidio. Lots more pencils, lots more books, lots more keppinger's dirty looks.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Scoreless Coffey, Scoreless Guardado
Nice time to start doing this guys.  Do not be fooled Wayne!  These men are not actually professional baseballers, but are instead confidence men who prey on the weak-minded and besweatered GMs throughout the country.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

ha, besweatered
in announcing news, tHom and his wife play penuckle every Wednesday night with a couple who enjoy the comic stylings of Don Knotts. I was praying that tHom would save some face by intimating there's cocaine and wife-swapping involved.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that anything like...
... pinochle?
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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it anything like fisting?
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

double fisting
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please, please, please
Let this be the last time I ever see Mike Stanton pitch in a Reds uniform. Please.
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 30, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

There it is.
Goodbye 2007. W for Bailey. 5 RBI for Votto. 182 days until Opening Day '08.
"Screw it. We've got bigger problems than a butter shortage."

by Ash on Sep 30, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i had fun this season gang
i have a feeling we'll be rumbling about the overmanagement of trl next year... but at least we should be prety good
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Sep 30, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

If you ask me
TRL has been overmanaged ever since Carson Daly left the show.  It really used to flow back in the day.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i should have spelled it out
tony ra lussa
Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Sep 30, 2007 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just bustin' your chops :)
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow
Quick game.  The Yankees game is still in the sixth inning.
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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like...
...the Reds will finish in 5th place in the division.  

At least there's still the Pirates to look down on. (Though they'll have a new GM next season.  Should we be worried?)

And it's looking like the Mets won't make the post-season.  Holy crap, what a collapse.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank god this awful season is over for the reds
Wow Phillies and Cubs...that will be a great series I'm going to say Cubs in 5
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, it is over
Opening Day, win over the Cubs.. all is well
Final Day, win over the Cubs..

Now if they could just work on the other 178 days or so

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

6-3 Brew Crew
Hope they can beat the Padres, and the rockies win!

I really like that Rockies team Atkins, Helton and Holiday are 3 good hitters. Francis has had a great year.

Playing the D-Backs in 2 more days again if they win...I thought you couldn't play vs ur own divison in the opening round

Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

They won't
The Cubs will play the DBacks.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

2008
Votto 1b
Phillips 2b
Gonzalez SS
Encarnacion 3b
Dunn LF
Hamilton CF
Griffey RF
PTBN  C

I think Bruce will be here to start the year but will only be seeing a couple of starts each week.

Bench
Hopper
Keppinger
Cantu
Bruce
Valentin

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Jay Bruce
He's only 20.  He needs to play every day.  Using him as a bench player would stunt his development.  IMO, you don't do that to a young player of Bruce's caliber.  If he's not starting, he's in Louisville.
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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah
The Reds want Bruce to learn to work the count better. He'll probably start out in Louisville unless Griffey is traded to Seattle.
So BF are you back here next year even if Bubba's not a Red any longer?

by pw on Sep 30, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure I'll be back...
...at least from time to time.  Could be tough if he ends playing for a division rival, though.  
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I turned the radio on
I turned the radio up
And this woman was singing my song
Lover's in love and the other's run away
The lover is crying cuz the other won't stay.

You say...
Stay.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 30, 2007 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that some sort
of Indecent proposal? lol
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol.. did that work?
holy crap I think it worked
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw, thanks
You're a sweetie.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're a sweetie, BF
Your enthusiasm and good nature shine through!

by pw on Sep 30, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice!
My 2008 Opening Day Lineup

CF Hamilton
2B BP
3B Ede
LF Dunn
1B Votto
SS Gonzo
RF Bruce
C KenJi Jojiahma  {Spelling?}

Bench:
IF/OF Jeff K
OF Hopper
1B/2B Cantu
C Javy Valentin or Ross
IF/OF Freel

Pitching Staff:
Harang
Bronson
Bailey
*Josh Fogg
Matt B

Shearn Mop up
Cooty
Jeremy Affedlt
Bray
Weathers 7th
Burton 8th
Joe Borowski CL

Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why Borowski?
Is it that sweet 5.15 ERA or the hot 1.44 WHIP?  He's a worse version of Weathers if you ask me.
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Sep 30, 2007 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

True
I have no reason other than I want to shake up the bullpen and put weathers in a 7th inning role rather than the 9th where Borowski has more sucsess in his career
Killer Tucans all the way!!!

by Zach K on Sep 30, 2007 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...for no reason
you're not wearing a sweater are you Zach?
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Fogg?
and borowski?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have my doubts about Gonzo...
Although he hit 14 hrs. He may be part of a deal for that elusive 3rd pitcher. I would also be surprised to see Bruce come up and sit on the bench as young as he is and as good as he is.I expect to see Ross gone as part of a deal too. Although Ross and Javier aren't that bad of a team. But in general the field players that Caleb chose are formidable enough to compete with some pitching help. Homer is going to have to work to get there - he got knocked around by the scrubs of late and he's got to get it together if he's going to compete next year.
well - back to work - a frustrating season, but a good time with RR.
How long 'til Spring Training?

by Madville on Sep 30, 2007 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the Reds...
...don't have any doubts about Gonzo.  Remember before the trade deadline?  They supposedly had a list of five players who were untouchable.  Everyone else was on the trade block.  Alex Gonzalez was one of the chosen five.
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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but things change
It wasn't like that list was a contractual agreement or anything. And as you say the list was a supposition to begin with.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

True
Anything's possible.  But I think they still heart A-Gon.  

I love Keppinger as much as anyone, but I'm not convinced the numbers he's been putting up are sustainable.  I think he may be the new Freel.  Super utility guy.  He can play several infield positions as well as outfield.  And he'll be 28 next spring, so there's less concern about stunting his development by using him as a bench player.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sold on Keppinger either
but why do you think the Reds still "heart" Gonzo?

His D was less than advertised this year and his contract would be a very attractive one to unload if the Reds are going after pitching. It would be criminal of the Reds not to consider dealing him.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzalez
hard to say with him. he went through a lot this season, especially dealing with the health issues of his child.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

defense
His defense was about average, for him.  It was kind of odd.  He made some amazing plays.  The ones he missed were the easy ones.  

His bat was better than expected, and I don't think it's a fluke.  He got a jump from moving to the NL and to a hitter's park, and that won't change next year.  His salary is not that high for what he brings to the table.    

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

His contract
is what makes him an attractive trading piece. He also still has high perceived value.

I wouldn't mind having him back, but he's not a defensive wizard (as he was sold to the fans, not that many here were buying it) and I do believe that its more likely his offensive numbers will decline next season than stay the same, despite playing in GABP. Especially his OBP, which wasn't great this year anyway but it's 30 points over his career average.

In the fwiw department:
Kepp's EqA at short this year: .297
Gonzo's EqA: .260

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they get an offer...
...they can't refuse, I'm sure they'll take it.

But I think they see Gonzo as a success.  A bargain at the price.  Krivsky is trying to put his stamp on the team, and Gonzo is part of it.  I think it's a move he's proud of.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2007 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonzo
I almost took him off the list. Keppinger showed he can make the routine play very well and get on base a lot. As far as catcher goes I'm not sure which way to lean. If the 2007 version of Ross is true to form I don't want any part of it. If 2006 is the real thing they have a pretty good duo.

Bubbafan, as usual, makes a good point about Bruce playing everyday and his age. And if Dunn and/or Griffey goes away then you will see him starting everyday for sure.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 30, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm....
Bubbafan, as usual, makes a good point about Bruce playing everyday and his age.

I made that point a long time ago.

http://www.redreporter.com/comments/2007/9/1/174810/4158/1#1

Just sayin'

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Sep 30, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm coming off of a two-week
commenting hiatus just to say this.

LAST.

Although our beloved Reds should have fared better this year, the RR community stood strong.  Good season, everyone.

"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on Sep 30, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

"A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request"
Steve Goodman

By the shore's of old Lake Michigan
Where the "hawk wind" blows so cold
An old Cub fan lay dying
In his midnight hour that tolled
Round his bed, his friends had all gathered
They knew his time was short
And on his head they put this bright blue cap
From his all-time favorite sport
He told them, "Its late and its getting dark in here"
And I know its time to go
But before I leave the line-up
Boys, there's just one thing I'd like to know

Do they still play the blues in Chicago
When baseball season rolls around
When the snow melts away,
Do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy-covered burial ground
When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
But now they only bring fatigue
To the home of the brave
The land of the free
And the doormat of the National League

Told his friends "You know the law of averages says:
Anything will happen that can"
That's what it says
"But the last time the Cubs won a National League pennant
Was the year we dropped the bomb on Japan"
The Cubs made me a criminal
Sent me down a wayward path
They stole my youth from me
(that's the truth)
I'd forsake my teachers
To go sit in the bleachers
In flagrant truancy

and then one thing led to another
and soon I'd discovered alcohol, gambling, dope
football, hockey, lacrosse, tennis
But what do you expect,
When you raise up a young boy's hopes
And then just crush 'em like so many paper beer cups.

Year after year after year
after year, after year, after year, after year, after year
'Til those hopes are just so much popcorn
for the pigeons beneath the 'L' tracks to eat
He said, "You know I'll never see Wrigley Field, anymore before my eternal rest
So if you have your pencils and your score cards ready,
and I'll read you my last request
He said, "Give me a double header funeral in Wrigley Field
On some sunny weekend day (no lights)
Have the organ play the "National Anthem"
and then a little 'na, na, na, na, hey hey, hey, Goodbye'
Make six bullpen pitchers, carry my coffin
and six ground keepers clear my path
Have the umpires bark me out at every base
In all their holy wrath
Its a beautiful day for a funeral, Hey Ernie lets play two!
Somebody go get Jack Brickhouse to come back,
and conduct just one more interview
Have the Cubbies run right out into the middle of the field,
Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly
Give everybody two bags of peanuts and a frosty malt
And I'll be ready to die

Build a big fire on home plate out of your Louisville Sluggers baseball bats,
And toss my coffin in
Let my ashes blow in a beautiful snow
From the prevailing 30 mile an hour southwest wind
When my last remains go flying over the left-field wall
Will bid the bleacher bums ad?eu
And I will come to my final resting place, out on Waveland Avenue

The dying man's friends told him to cut it out
They said stop it that's an awful shame
He whispered, "Don't Cry, we'll meet by and by near the Heavenly Hall of Fame
He said, "I've got season's tickets to watch the Angels now,
So its just what I'm going to do
He said, "but you the living, you're stuck here with the Cubs,
So its me that feels sorry for you!"

And he said, "Ahh Play, play that lonesome losers tune,
That's the one I like the best"
And he closed his eyes, and slipped away
What we got is the Dying Cub Fan's Last Request
And here it is

Do they still play the blues in Chicago
When baseball season rolls around
When the snow melts away,
Do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy-covered burial ground
When I was a boy they were my pride and joy
But now they only bring fatigue
To the home of the brave
The land of the free
And the doormat of the National League

Why do I feel liek that song has been written for me?

by justin0070000 on Sep 30, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I would ask one thing
of all of you. Please try to hold out against the sort of self pity that typifies so many in Cubs fandom and, until recently, Red Sox fandom. There are many who find it attractive as it seems to add depth and meaning to their experience, but it's really more of an exercise in narcissism

During that dustup with Let's Go Tribe, the moderator over there wrote this silly post about us not knowing the pain of bequeathing love of the Indians to his young son. Oscar Wilde would ask us to weep at such an attitude, weep with laughter.

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Sep 30, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatev
calvin coolidge said 'brooding is for lovers.'

Marty may have a shirt on, but Billy Beane just ripped his off and is squeezing his nipples. - Brendan's ukkah

by boobs on Oct 1, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

and "loving is for brooders"
High School would have been much more exciting for me if that were true.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 1, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

My 2008 Lineup
Votto 1B
Kepp-SS
Griffey
Phillips-2B
Dunn-RF
Hamilton-CF
Encarnacion-3B
Catcher
pitcher

Rotation
Harang
Arroyo
Belise
Bailey
Cueto

Bullpen
Burton-Closer
Weathers-Setup
Bray-Setup
Salmon-middle
Couter-middle
McBeth-middle
Shearn-long/alt starter

AAA Starters
Saarloos
Dumatrait (if they can sneek him back down, shouldn't be a problem)
Rameriz
Gosling

Bench
Valetin
Cantu
Hatteberg
Gonzo

The rotation makes or breaks this team.  Bailey and Belise, and McBeth and/or Salmon step up this is a damn fine team.  If Bailey and Belise don't, and one or two relievers don't it will be another year of misery.

by justin0070000 on Sep 30, 2007 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I do think that Gonzo had to be distracted
with his son's situation. He has some pop and is an OK fielder. But again, I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Jr. go back to Seattle.If there was a way to keep Jr. Gonzo,Keppinger and utilized Bruce it would be the best scenario. However someone's gotta go and I think Alex G. is the best candidate. I also said that Hatteberg would gone by the trade deadline...so a lot I know.
How long 'til Spring Training?

by Madville on Sep 30, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Last!
Ha! Bitches!
Damn it feels good to be a Pirate!

by sukr on Sep 30, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Crap...
You sobered up just in time to miss calling last by a few posts...

You're going to have to fight it out with BK now...

The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Sep 30, 2007 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last!
Does the first person to call last get last, or the last person to call last?  Either way, I'm ahead I guess.
"I'm just like everybody else. I have two arms, two legs, and four-thousand hits." - Pete Rose

by BK on Oct 1, 2007 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the last person to call
Last
I'm not superstitious...but I am a little stitious.

by Slyde on Oct 1, 2007 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!
That's why I'm last, regardless of being a few posts late.
Damn it feels good to be a Pirate!

by sukr on Oct 1, 2007 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

As meaningless as this game was,
the Reds teeing off on Jason Marquis today may have cost him a spot on the Cubs' postseason roster.  I figured he'd regress after his good start to the season, but I didn't know that he'd been Milton bad as of late.  

by ken on Oct 1, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Last!
The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Oct 1, 2007 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

The only thing to add
the last thing I want to say is go Dbacks
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm...
The last thing I would do is root for the Yankees!
The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Oct 1, 2007 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Bubba Fan
it wouldn't be the last thing she would do
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Oct 1, 2007 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope...
She's one of the last Yankees fans on this board!
The Reds and the Radio...They're on it.

by chandrathan on Oct 1, 2007 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The last thing I would do...
...is root for the Red Sox.

My dad says I should, if the Yankees are out of it.  He thinks your loyalty should go to the division, then the conference/league, etc., if your team is eliminated.  By his reasoning, if the Reds are out of it, our loyalty should go to the Cubs, and when they're out of it, to whatever NL team is left.

But I can't do it.  The rivalry is too intense.  If the Cowboys are out of the playoff chase, I can't root for the Redskins.  I hate them too much.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2007 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowboys, Yankees,
Red Wings, Jeff Gordon, Manchester United, Tiger Woods, Southern Cal, Lakers (west), Bulls (east), Michael Phelps, and Spielberg for Best Director.

Am I right?

"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes
unless, like me, you've been rooting for them since the French and Indian Wars, when they were known as the Boston Braves.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude everyone loves takeout!
Szechuan!
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yum
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not my sister
She loves the Kings and the Pistons.  Hates the Lakers.

She also thinks I'm an embarrassment for being a Yankees fan.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...
...it looks like I'm a bandwagon jumper.  But honestly, it just kinda turned out that way.  I'm from Hawaii, and there aren't enough people there to have pro sports teams. So we're kind of on our own.  

A big reason I'm a Cowboys fan is because I spent three or four of my formative years in Raleigh, NC.  (I think I told you my dad is an NC State alum.)  I was surrounded by Redskins fans, which only encouraged me in my Cowboys love.  What can I say, I'm contrary.  

I grew up in a football-only family.  It wasn't until I moved to NY to go to college that I started getting interested in baseball.  And it was the Yankees who were always on TV.  Heck, they have their own cable channel.

As for the rest...not much of a hockey fan.  It's not a popular sport in Hawaii, for some inexplicable reason.  Don't like Tiger Woods.  Don't like golf.  It's not a sport.  Though Michael Kay once said Bubba reminded him of Phil Mickelson, so I guess if I have to pick a favorite golfer, it would be him.  Not into basketball or movies, either.  

I'm not really into racing, either, but a very close friend of mine is.  She liked Gordon, but warned me that he would only be cute for a short while: until gravity made his neck thick.  She was right.

My college football team was Division III, so I root for my family's alma maters: NC State, Texas A&M, Michigan, Hawaii.

And hey, I'm a Bubba Crosby fan when I could have picked Jeter or A-Rod for a favorite player.  That counts for something, doesn't it?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2007 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of skins fans
locally. The Panthers have slowly cut into it, but it's still pretty prevalent in the eastern part of the state.
"Two Dunn's enter, but only one Dunn will leave...unless neither do because they decide to play cards, drink beer, golf, and fish."--SlydeFrog

by Man Mountain on Oct 2, 2007 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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