2012 Community Prospect Rankings: Who's Mr. Irrelevant?
by BK on Feb 7, 2012 9:01 AM EST
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PrintJosh Smith makes our list at 24, meaning there's one spot left. We'll have a vote between the remaining 5 guys, and then later on in the week we'll be voting on who makes our list as an honorable mention. We're doing that a little different this year, so listen up.
If you have a name you want to add to the honorable mention poll, mention it in the comments below. The top 5 vote-getters in the poll will win an honorable mention in this year's rankings? Why is this important? Last year, guys like David Vidal and Didi Gregorius made that spot. They're usually guys with big upside who can be poised to have a breakout year, and guys like Juan Duran, Daniel Corcino, and Sam LeCure made the lists of nyc and myself last year.
Vote now.
Sean Buckley, 3B, 22, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Billings) .289/.372/.551/.923, 14 HR, 41 RBI
Pros: Showed a ton of power potential, hitting 14 HR in 225 AB. Good bloodlines.
Cons: Struck out a lot, needs to curtail that. Doesn't have a track record for hitting for average in college.
Tim Crabbe, RHP, 24, BA-UR, Sickels-#14
(Dayton) 3.65 ERA, 24.2 IP, 25 K, 7 BB, 1.17 WHIP
(Bakersfield) 3.41 ERA, 111.0 IP, 123 K, 46 BB, 1.29 WHIP
Pros: Two above average pitches, profiles as a solid reliever. Put up good numbers in the Cally League, which is a pitcher's nightmare.
Cons: Needs a 3rd pitch if he wants to be a starter. Kind of old for his level, so needs to go to AA and pitch well.
Drew Hayes, RHP, 24, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Dayton) 1.35 ERA, 60 IP, 89 K, 27 BB, 0.93 WHIP
Pros: Dayton's shutdown closer in 2011. Throws 3 pitches with good velocity on his fast ball (91-94).
Cons: Needs to improve command with his fastball and secondary pitches.
Kyle Waldrop, OF, 20, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Billings) .273/.305/.471/.776, 5 HR, 29 RBI
Pros: Former football recruit and huge left handed bat. Broke out slugging .471 for Billings in 2011.
Cons: Plate discipline is an issue.
Ryan Wright, 2B, 22, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Billings) .298/.348/.522/.870, 7 HR, 32 RBI
(AZL Reds) .318/.375/.636/1.011, 1 HR, 5 RBI
Pros: Showed good power potential. Should advance fast through the system. Versatile in the field.
Cons: Could walk more. Attended a school that jch likes.
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I think he's the president of the Edgar Renteria Fan Club.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
And then avatar bet you that he isn't
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Feb 7, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
No, I'm pretty sure that's the Mottram's
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I can't be the only one who doesn't know the difference,
can I?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Vote Waldrop
24 yr old pitchers in A ball aren’t prospects, they’re suspects…
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What about 22-year old infielders in rookie ball?
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
These Oswalt rumors are not going away
I don’t really want the Reds to sign him. I just don’t want the Cardinals to have him.
I reeeeeeaaaaally want the Reds to get Oswalt
I would bet that he has a better season this year than Cueto.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
You crazy.
I want to be the first to take that bet.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
I can take one on the side with you, though
What say a six pack?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
i see people predicting oswalt as a #5 starter
they crazy.
i still have a lot of confidence in roy & i think it would be awesome to have him as a red.
if you can’t beat ’em, get ’em to join you!
well no there wasn't
now it’s only showing as one comment.
a few minutes ago, it showed as a double post & neither comment had the body.
odd
that happens frequently
welcome to the club.
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"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Oswalt would be no less than the #3 starter for the Reds
I’m all for signing him.
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
Like wins and fewer innings pitched for the bullpen?
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It's not an absolute that you have to move Homer to sign RoyO either
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As long as they don't trade Bailey or Chapman I am OK with it
It would be tough to lose one of them for a single year of O, especially if his back problems limit him again.
I’d also prefer they don’t kick Leake out of the rotation, but I could live with this (if only because he would certainly be back once someone got hurt).
I had a dream last night that the Reds cleared payroll by trading Arroyo to the Cubs, but then I woke up and Theo was still running things in Chicago
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
they're not trading Chapman
Even if he’s only a reliever, Chapman’s still a good deal on that contract.
Maybe Theo will trade for Arroyo as a way to say “I’m sorry” for dealing him in 2006?
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by Slyde on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Arroyo for Soriano!
/ducks
Hello...BOOMSHAKALAKA!
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I will trade Arroyo to the Cubs on one condition.
If Theo signs Willy Mo away from Japan and the Reds receieve him back in trade.
Kind of like a trade do over
Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.
That is a horrible appology.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
It would be Leake, he would be the easiest to move.
No thanks, I hope he is just driving the price up past the cards.
by Eastwindquinn on Feb 7, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
It makes no sense to trade Leake
He makes league minimum, and he has options. You don’t save any money trading him, and you can demote him to open a spot in the rotation.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he meant demote him, unless I'm mistaken
Leake would bring back a decent haul in a trade, but it wouldn’t make any sense from a financial perspective (or, really, from any perspective)
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What if they get a piece they need for Bailey
I haven’ thought this that far through yet, but what if they can get a left field solution for Bailey and Oswalt.
Of course if they do that, they probably won’t save any money.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
What young LF options are there really?
Dominic Brown? He’s the only one I can think of and I doubt the Phillies would be interested in Bailey
Yes, Homer
I haven’t totally given up on him. I’d hate to trade him away for one year of Oswalt. And I don’t think Oswalt represents enough of an upgrade over Bailey (at this point in Oswalt’s career). Now, if you can replace Arroyo in the rotation with Oswalt, then we’re in business.
the thing is, you aren't trading homer for oswalt
you are getting a seperate return for homer.
return + oswalt is better to me than having homer.
What's a decent return for Homer?
He’s a little injury plagued and he’s inconsistent
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
he's a relatively cheap middle of the rotation pitcher for most teams
that should yield a pretty good return
Volquez begat Hamilton!
shit, nevermind.
Hello...BOOMSHAKALAKA!
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Uh...could we trade Bailey, Heisey, and Chapman...
…for Josh Hamilton? Bring him home and extend him to play LF?
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
It's certainly a win-now move.
What WOULD you give up?
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
if they would take bailey chapman & heisey
and the reds were able to extend hamilton for like 3 years, that would be a really good deal
I don't think the Rangers would take that deal.
How would you sell that to your fans?… Well, we’ve been winning the league and everything but we’re gonna trade away our MVP-caliber best hitter for a young unproven left fielder and that flamethrowing Cuban guy that the Reds haven’t done much with yet.
And Homer Bailey!
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Hobbs only has one year left of control
and the whole recovering alcoholic stuff. He’s not worth Chapman, fer sher.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
he's 31 this year
And he’s been rode hard and put away wet. No way would I sign him for 3 years.
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I thought they were talking about Maria Menounos in a different thread.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
The Maria Menounos meme is omnipresent.
And Mnemonic!
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The Ubaidians were the first civilizing force in Sumer, draining the marshes for agriculture, developing trade, and establishing industries.
The Ubaidians were the first civilizing force in Sumer, draining the marshes for agriculture, developing trade, and establishing industries.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I can't be the only one who thought this was a Madville comment, can I?
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
the guy can't stay on the field, even when sober.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
homer?
hamilton stayed on the field long enough to lead the american league in rbi one season & win the mvp award in another
He has averaged 117.8 games a season.
He has played more than 130 games exactly twice, and more than 150 games once.
I don’t see that improving, and yes he is so good when he is on the field he is still useful despite being expected to miss 44.2 games a year, but he is 31 and will probably start to decline, and the decline will probably be sped by his bad health.
If Josh Hamilton wants a big contract for $15M a year, between his durability and sobriety issues, that is a risk a big market team should make.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
whoa
i never said give him 15 million a year.
i was saying give up those players if the extension is for sure & is favorable to the reds.
But he has yet to log 140 innings in a big league season
most teams want a mid rotation pitcher who they are sure will make 30+ starts.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
But many will trade for a guy who had all-star stats in 21 starts last year...
…is cheap, under team control for a while, only 25, and has improved each year, despite injuries.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
He had all star peripherals
He did not have an All-Star ERA.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I take that back, he had nice peripherals
A decent k/9 of 7.25, a good BB/9 of 2.25, but he was an extreme fly ball pitcher is a 39.5% GB rate.
His ERA was 4.43, FIP was 4.06, and xFIP was 3.77, all nice, but nothing really standout.
If he had All-Star stats, it because he pitched for the 2001 Reds.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Please list players who surpassed him in all those categories.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
Just a quick eyeball check at Baseball-Reference
tells me that even if Bailey had thrown enough innings to qualify he would not be in the top 10 in bb/9 or k/9.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
well your query unfairly sets up your argument
As there may not be many guys who have better stats in each individual category.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Is that unfair, or is that my point?
If few equaled or surpassed him in each category, and those few are almost all all-stars, I think that’s pretty powerful evidence.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
I have returned from lunch and done some statwork™.
2011 season (requiring BBp9<=2.25, earned_run_avg<=4.43, At least 60% games started and At least 20 Games), sorted by greatest Strikeouts per 9 IP
LINK to LEADERBOARD
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
Everyone above Bailey on that list is All-Star quality.
All 12 of them.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
This might be the finest example of cherry picking I've ever seen
Also, you are probably the first person I’ve ever seen call Scott Baker an All-Star caliber pitcher, and the first one in like 8 years for Bartolo Colon.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
A couple of things here...
Cherry picking: Elbow Patches picked the stats, not me. And ERA, K/9, and BB/9 are all very good determining factors in judging pitchers.
Scott Baker:
The guy put up All-Star stats last year, in limited time, just like Homer.
Bailey had 22 starts in 2011, Baker had 21 plus 2 relief appearances. Here’s a look at Bailey/Baker in 2011, pro-rated for an additional 50% more innings, taking them to roughly 31-33 starts each:
Homer Bailey
15-11 with a 4.43 ERA
159 Ks and 50 BB in 190 IP with a 1.280 WHIP
Scott Baker
12-8 with a 3.14 ERA
185 Ks and 48 BB in 202 IP with a 1.173 WHIP.
I’d love to have either of those pitchers start #3-5 for us. And if you put up those numbers for a couple years in a row, you could damn well find yourself on the A-S team.
Bartolo Colon was an all-star in 2005 when he won 21 games. That’s 6 years, not 8, but WGAF.
In 2011 Colon posted a 111 ERA+ and a 1.290 WHIP with 7.4 K/9 and only 2.2 BB/9 while giving up only 1.2 HR/9. I don’t think he’s got anything left, but those numbers kick ass.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
I wasn't really cherry picking
I was just racking my mind trying to figure out which stats he put up were possibly “All-Star” and those were closet.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Nothing about Homer Bailey's stat line last year says All-Star to me
or even particularly close to that
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
But you have to think
that they are gonna trade him for a guy who is cheap as well. Name me LF who is as cheap as, but better than Chris Heisey that is available. There probably aren’t many
Meaning that if the Reds opted to trade Bailey, it'd likely be for a LF...
…but there aren’t any LFs available in the Reds’ price range better than Heisey.
Hello...BOOMSHAKALAKA!
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
oh.
it’s time to start replenishing the farm system. heisey & ludwick are the reds LF.
trade homer for prostpects
So are you assuming that Leake gets traded, or injured?
I hate it when Ephram uses data & facts to refute my unfounded opinions....No chocolate chip cookies for him!!!
Just looking at the last 2 seasons (i.e. assuming 2011 is not totally indicative of 2012)
Oswalt has the 2nd best ERA, FIP, xFIP, SIERRA, and tERA. I realize that’s just a bunch of alphabet soup, but as long as he’s healthy, Oswalt is a better pitcher than pretty much everybody on the Reds but Latos.
Heck, even if you look just at 2011, he’s pretty close to the 3rd best pitcher on the team, and he was hurt!
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So, "pretty close to third best" = 4th best?
The big question with Oswalt is how much of 2011 was an aberration and how much was a sign of things to come. The lack of interest in him seems to indicate that the Pros are more than a little worried that the injury problems may not be resolved.
My guess is that in 2012 he is either going to make one GM look a little foolish or make the other 29 look very foolish.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
"So, "pretty close to third best" = 4th best?"
Nah, it’s just not as clear. He’s clearly the 2nd best pitcher over ’10-11. In ’11, it depends on the metric you use:
ERA – 3rd
FIP – 2nd
xFIP – 5th
tERA – 3rd
SIERRA – 5th
I’m not sure where that puts him, but I’d say that’s close enough for him to be considered 3rd best. But I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt and not overstate my case.
I’m hoping that he’s this season’s version of Lance Berkman.
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Well, if he signs with St. Louis,
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit
If he signs with St. Louis, I sure hope he isn’t this season’s version of Lance Berkman.
I just can’t help but think that if there was even a single GM out there who thought there was a good chance he could return to pre-2011 form, someone would have offered him a multi-year deal. 2010 Roy Oswat is certainly worth 3 years, $30 million, even if he gives only 2 years at that level and declines in the third year.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly must be some concerns about his back
maybe everybody wants him to take a prove-it deal, and he’s got too much pride to do that?
Or maybe it’s a matter of GMs psyching themselves out. “Hey, why isn’t XXXX in on this? Does he know something I don’t?”
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Mark me down as not wanting Oswalt due to the bad back
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We could insure the contract.
To limit potential losses. This might even work on a 3-year deal…which I am starting to favor.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
I don't think he wants a three-year deal
He wants to prove himself this year, then sign a big contract.
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Even 2011 Oswalt
would have been the number 2 pitcher on the 2011 Reds.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
If they sign him, I just hope it means Homer in the bullpen, not Leake in Louisville
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
This is what Spring Training is for.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
This is what 2010-2011 are for
I’ll take Leake’s superior performance over the past two years, along with his clear improvement, over the results of a couple of meaningless starts in Spring Training games.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Mike Leake has achieved more than Homer Bailey has.
Mike Leake should be at the point where he can “work on stuff” in Spring Training rather than compete for a job.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As unlikely as it is, I'm pulling for Arroyo in the bullpen, in the LeCure role
Cuteo/Latos/Oswalt/Leake/Bailey has me drooling. Especially with Arroyo available to spot start, LeCure and Francis in AAA and Chapman maybe ready to start later in the year. It’s a pipe dream, but between that and the bullpen, good God that’s a pitching staff.
Yep
Adding Oswalt to the rotation takes it from a good one to great one. Not as good as the Phillies or Giants, but top five in the NL. No more half-measures, Walter.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's weird
Is this happening to anyone else, or is it just ’tHan?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
it appears to be working correctly for the time being
oddly enough, a notification popped up saying i’d posted a new comment.
never had a self notification before
This sort of thing has happened to me before
It usually goes away if you refresh the page.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
"never had a self notification before"
Your empty Kleenex box says otherwise. :)
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
You really should stop touching yourself at work.
Unless work = ’thanwebcam
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 7, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd love for this to happen...
Adds about 3 wins to our team, I’d guess. Similarly, it prevents the Cards from picking up 3 wins by upgrading from McLellan to Oswalt. That’s a six-win swing – plenty to establish the Reds as the front-runners in the Central, if not the NL.
Trying to pull off "having no money and talking to no one" as well as the Reds have.
Francis will not likely go to AAA.
He has an opt-out in his contract at the end of spring training. If he doesn’t suck in camp, he’ll be pitching for someone in the majors.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
If he opts out, he's a FA again right?
and the best he got last time he was a free agent was a minor league contract. I am not sure this proposition is true. I think there’s at least a 50/50 chance he goes to AAA.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
For Francis to want to stay with the Reds in AAA...
…all 31 other teams must take a pass on him. Factor in spring training injuries and prospects failing to impress, and I’d bet that some team will want him more than the Reds.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
Portland and Las Vegas have to start their teams somewhere.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Perhaps, I wouldn't be schocked if he leaves on his own
I also wouldn’t be shocked if he looks at the Reds lack of starting pitching depth, and realizes if he goes to Louisville, he will most likely be on the Major League roster in a few months, and has a chance to pitch for a pretty good team.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
MLBTR
says Oswalt prefers the Rangers or Cardinals, and there’s “no traction” with the Red Sox. Does sound like there’s room for the Reds to make a move, if they’re so inclined. Spring training starts in two weeks. Unless Oswalt wants to sit around until midseason, like Clemens did, he has to pick a team soon.
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He prefers the Rangers or Cards, but they don't have the budget room.
They also really don’t have the ability to move money, or stretch their budget. I think the Reds can do both.
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by BigBabyBruce on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
What if he wants to take a pay cut to play with either one of them?
Surely they would make room for him
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
He could do that, but I doubt he would.
If the Reds can make an offer he will take it.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
But he's not interested in the Reds (or so he says...)
I still says he signs for either the Rangers or Cardinals
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Well, his agent did contact the Reds.
I think that might say otherwise.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Well, that's his agent
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Ok, duder
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing
Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.
I think he might take a pay cut
Just as Coco had to settle for a less than ideal situation, Oswalt might, too.
He wants the Rangers or the Cards because they’re close to his hometown. The Reds aren’t too bad, at least compared to the Tigers and Red Sox.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
He won't take a pay cut, they won't make room for him
And don’t call me Shirley
Respect my authoritah!
Why wouldn't he take a pay cut?
He already backed down from his multiyear demands
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
ESPN rumor central
Still has the Reds to sign Oswalt.
It stays another case of Walt waiting on the market and that it will be another great deal.
Now considering the source I am not putting any stock in this report, but either way I would rather read that rumor over reading a report of Oswalt signing with the crybabybirds
Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.
Jocketty, on Oswalt, per Fay:
""It’s all rumors," he said. "I’m sick and tired of it. We’ve had no serious talks. We’ve had no contact with the player."
The Madson and Marshall rumors weren't true either.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
Well, well...well...
Donkeyfarts. I got nothing.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
A vote for Waldrop is a vote for freedom.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
Still beats the Pete Rose thread.
#NotThatAgain
by FordhamRam on Feb 7, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So I have come to a few descisions
I am rooting for the Reds to lose on Opening Day, they lost on Opening Day in 1995, 1999, and 2010. The won on Opening Day last year, and look what happened.
Further more I think they should bring up a AAAA pitcher to start on Opening Day.
1995-Jose Rijo starts, would eventually have Tommy John Surgery that year.
1996-Pete Schureck started on opening day, eventually had elbow surgery and was never the same.
1997-John Smiley started opening day, he sucked terribly, was traded to Cleveland broke his arm.
1999-Brett Tomko started on Opening Day, and he was awful.
2001-Pete Harnisch started Opening Day, had shoulder surgery.
2003-Jimmy Haynes started Opening Day, and after being a serviceable pitcher in 2002, was awful and eventually had back surgery..
2004-Corey Lidle starts Opening Day, he eventually died in a plane crash.
2005-Paul Wilson starts Opening Day, after two serviceable seasons for the Reds he has what turned out to be career ending shoulder surgery.
2006-2010-Harang starts Opening Day, Dusty does something incredibly stupid with Harang.
2011-Volquez starts Opening Day, we know what happens.
We all know correlation equals causation.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I heard a stat the other day that every pitcher who starts an opening day eventually dies.
by GrooveLeg on Feb 7, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
this was supposed to go with that comment.
by GrooveLeg on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
But not every left fielder!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
salllright, 'Leg.
I rec’d them both.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I like this one better
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Feb 7, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think we all know that the Reds pitchers were terrible during that time period.
The biggest problem is those guys were forced to start the opener because there was no one else.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
The Reds won on Opening Day in 1990
And 1976
and 1975
and 1940
and 1919
So, clearly, you don’t want the Reds to win the World Series. Asshole.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for doing the research I wanted to do
by FordhamRam on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Can't go Wire-to-Wire unless you win Opening Day
by ams78 on Feb 7, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You theoretically could
If you were the last team to play an Opening Day game and all the other teams in the division lost. You’d also have to be the first team to win a game in this instance as well.
I voted Buckley
Third base prospects are hard to come by, and it looks like he’s got a lot of potential in that bat. I hope to see him in Dayton this year.
Respect my authoritah!
whatsa dude gotta do to make this list?
Danny Dorn!
See, he’s already proven he can field like Gomes!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
It looks like he is trying to play the OF with a catcher's mit
Maybe it is just me, but that my explain the Gomes like fielding issue
Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.
well, that and the fact that his eyes are closed.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
We should be Fielding Coaches
Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.
He fields the ball like Jagger...
He’s got the moves of Mick Jagger
He takes the ro-ow-ow-ow-ow-ow-ow-ow routes like Jagger
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
slow news day
the top headline on yahoo is “what if all the cats in the world suddenly died?”
we all know that the moon is not made of green cheese. but, what if it were made of barbeque spare ribs?
We'd have no problem colonizing the moon if that was the case
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Jeff Brantley would be an astronaut, instead of your mother
/AmbiguouslyWorded
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Wait...does that mean I nailed Jeff Brantley?!?!
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
very funny, but if you were my dad i would be 4'5" instead of 6'5"
by 'tHan on Feb 7, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe laying on your back!
(This meme is pretty good…we now have huge dongs in this story!)
(cue uncomfortable compliment from jch)
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
Stalin Gerson, Mike Costanzo
Josh Fellhauer, Cody Puckett. Pedro Villarreal
Random, little scrubby. The Reds clearly like Mike, Cody, and Pedro more than we do.
Who was that catcher the Reds drafted out of UNC a few years ago?
I always like him, but he always sucked. I hope he breaks out this year so that I might remember his name.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Fleury
Mark Fleury. He actually had a good year in Bakersfield last season, OBP of .390. I want him as an honorable mention.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
He was actually good in 2010 as well with Dayton
.255/.352/.433 line in 104 games. Worth an honorable mention to me as well
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
He was a college hitter.
and watched Meso and Grandel zip past him, and he should be hearing Tuckers footsteps. and we signed 2 AAAA guys (not counting Corky) in front of him for the Bats platoon job.
by Eastwindquinn on Feb 7, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
He's likely to start the season in AA
and probably play there all season. They need the AAA depth anyway.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
still young.
It’ll be nice having him and Barnart for depth behind Navarro and the ilk in AAA.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Fairly interesting peice from ESPN
Ranking the teams in the central by position. I think they underrate Stubbs and Bruce, and possibly Cozart. And they’re a bit rough on Dusty. But interesting.
It is hard to underrate Cozart
he was a pedestrian prospect with a week and a half of big league experience.
His ceiling really is a Ryan Theriot with above average defense.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Sooo...not Ryan Theriot?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ha, about to say
“Theriot with above average defense” is the best SS east of Tulo.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
either that or not thinking of someone.
There aren’t many SS anymore.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Reyes? Rollins?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Alexei, Hanley, Yunel, Furcal, Starlin, Peralta, Andrus....
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I just looked at their ranking for pitching
I have a hard time taking an article seriously that puts Matt Garza, in the same class as Chris Carpenter, Mat Latos, and Yovani Gallardo.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
It wasn't about him being in the same class
He just projects as the Cubs #1 starter compared to the rest of the division’s #1 starter.
he was ranked as the 4th best starter
and the author wrote, that any of those 4 guys could end up being the best pitcher in the Division.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
What's wrong with that? He could end up being the best pitcher in the division
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I doubt he maintains he strike out rate of 9/9IP
and regresses closer to his career average of 7.5.
He is a fine pitcher, but he ain’t a ace.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
But he COULD be an ace
Anything’s possible
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
And Bronson Arroyo COULD win theCy Young Award this year.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Exactly, anything's possible
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Well, not ANYTHING
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So close to the ultimate animal
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I was thinking more like a sharocrogle
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Crocoduck
The kid from that Alan Thicke sitcom once claimed that evolution is false, because we don’t see any Crocoducks (I wish I was parodying his argument, but that was really it).
Hence, the Crocoduck in all its glory.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, that dude who's sister is married to Pavel Bure?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Ding Ding Ding
I could not remember his name, or be bothered to Google it.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
In other news...
Boner is dead and Kirk thinks that a banana’s size and conformity to a human hand proves God’s existence as our maker. I guess no one has told Kirk that chimps also have hands perfect for bananas, and that the human hand and mouth fits equally well around a dude’s spigot.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
Or that wild bananas don't look like that
The shape of the banana is a human invention. God’s bananas look like this:
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
THIS!
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit, Boner's dead?
I knew the banana thing, but I didn’t know Boner was dead. That makes me sad for reasons I can’t quite articulate.
Can't they just bring him back with some Viagra?
Or that other one that causes you to sit around all day in a claw-foot bathtub? Cialis?
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Or that plenty of things with below replace level body parts have gone extinct.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I thought Kornikova is married to Pavel Bure?
And that she has two vaginas?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Isn't Kournikova married to Iglesias?
You may be right about the two vaginas though
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I need to find out more about this two vagina thing
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by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
i could end up being the best pitcher in the division
i just need some kind of rookie of the year scenario to play out
/volquez'd
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You also need to pitch for a NL Central MLB team
And I don’t think that’s happening
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
but it COULD happen.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
No, that definitely can not happen
As of the writing of the article, ’tHan – to the best of my knowledge – is not on an MLB NL Central team
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
But he could be by April
Perhaps he will play catch with OBC in a park somewhere in the Cincinnati area, Walt will see his sweet velocity and movement, and put him on the 25 man on Opening day.
By your definition, it COULD happen.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
But this has nothing to do with the ESPN article
Now, you’re just being an ass
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Until Gary Busey blew out his arm.
Dirt Bikes!
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Feb 7, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Was there an article written by ESPN saying the kid was one of the top 4 pitchers in the NL Central?
Been a long time since I’ve seen that movie
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Maybe you are underrating Garza or overrating the others
there’s not a big dropoff there
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Paul Janish!
They’ll make him a pitcher, like Driveline Mechanics suggested.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Alejandro Chacin for honorable mention.
Trying to pull off "having no money and talking to no one" as well as the Reds have.
I think Ismael Guillon could possibly have a bounceback year.
It wouldn’t be outrageous to include him in the honorable mention list
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
The Reds need a guy named Gustavo.
Are there any Gustavo’s in the system?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
The chicken at Los Pollos Hermanos always looks so good
I watch that show & I just wanna eat fried chicken.
And smoke meth.
But mostly eat fried chicken.
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by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Clayton Tanner for honorable mention, maybe...
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
You ain't kidding.
33 years old, too…yahtzee!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I saved a copy when I heard it got deleted
Just in case anyone wants to relive some fond memories.
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by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think he took his ball and went home
That’s a bummer.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
What happens if you post a comment into a deleted thread?
Could this end the internet?
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by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 7, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hey! I got one of those! Except mine was a Google-y and Chrome-y. And I closed mine so now it's gone.
Right after I tried to post this picture everything blew up.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Freaking Charlie Scrabbles man.....that guy runs all the new people off
“If you don’t like it here, maybe you should get the hell out!!”
Somebody needs to reign in that loose cannon if you ask me.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
what thread is this?
it got deleted? I MISS ALL THE GOOD STUFF
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Yeah you do!
People were all waving their hands like “yeah” and moving their hips like"yeah."
Except ’Scrabbs…he was punching dudes in the face.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 7, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Ahhhhh, hell no!
Y’all’s dumb faces just kept running into my fists!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 7, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Pete Rose defender posted lengthy diatribe defending Pete Rose.
Cliquey bloggers piled on. Thread exploded with wild analogies and mixed metaphors. And a picture of a pooping Care Bear. Pete Rose defender threatened to turn us in to SBNation.
That was pretty much it.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I missed the turning in part
What was he going to report? Obscene bear pics?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
x
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
by UncleWeez on Feb 7, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think he's saying, "Long stroke it skeet skeet"
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
shocking
What is the blogiverse coming to?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You missed Huffy McHufferton getting bent out of shape
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Is that really a 'Person of WalMart' or is that a shot from a Tim Meadows movie I never heard about?
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 7, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
FTFY
Is that really a ‘Person of WalMart’ or is that a shot from a Tim Meadows movie I never heard about?
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
I'd suggest Corky Miller for the honorable mentions...
…but I fear it would skew the results, with the ’Stache Smash winning in a landslide.
"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00
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