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That NFL Bowl Game: Thread 1 of XLVI

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

If the Pats win, Chad gets a ring.

If the Giants win, Greg Jones gets one. Either way I’m happy.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Greg Jones?

FSU fan or just what?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You're thinking of Greg Jones, the FB for the Jags.

I’m talking abut Greg Jones, the LB for the Giants. He went to Moeller.

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by sexsalad on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Fourth

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Great free kick coverage

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

Seventh

Andrew Luck or something.

by Ram27 on Feb 5, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

Pats may spot NY 9 pts

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Manning hit again

Good throw

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Please please please let it be 5-0

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

there's always 15-0

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Fummmmmmmmmble

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:49 PM EST reply actions  

Twelve men on the field?

Come on NE, it’s the effing Super Bowl.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

LolPats

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

jeez louise

That’s embarrassing.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Sterling Moore...

good thing the Raiders cut that guy mid-season!

by DocRam on Feb 5, 2012 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

4 down territory

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy fuck, Jerrod Mayo was right there.

That was ballsy. Easily could have been picked off.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

Stupid coke polar bears

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

uh, boy

I wonder what Hostess thinks about that commercial.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think so

You have those ads that compare brands, and they name names. And generally don’t get sued. Or at least, don’t get sued for using the trademark.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Pats should spread them out

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by obc2 on Feb 5, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Aaron Ross is playing well tonight.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

because they're not holed up in their apartments or the local sports bar

watching the Super Bowl like red-blooded Americans?

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!

I shouldn’t have to do anything at all today, everyone should be watching the Superb Owl!

by crolfer on Feb 5, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm totally creeped out by that one

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

holy cow

The Pats are going into halftime with the lead.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Is anyone else excited for Star Wars 3D?

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

You gotta take the good with the bad.

My ranking, because I don’t care about the NBC studio analysts:

5,4,6,3,1,2

3 and 6 are pretty much interchangeable.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that's exactly my ranking.

6 and 3 are interchangeable. Yep. The same.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The only one that is actually average or worse is 2.

Even 1 is a slightly above average movie to me.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, and the last time I watched 2 I remember thinking, "It's bad but it's not like it's MST3000 bad."

It has a lot of awesome big bam boom and that’s gotta be good for something in a serial like this.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with 1, 2, and 3 is the dialogue. Jesus is it bad in spots.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hayden Christensen is not a good actor, but the writers (Lucas himself?)

really left him out to dry with some of those lines.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

But in 3 they melt him onto the shores of a molten Hell river and in 2 they blow a lot of shit up.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The action sequences are great.

That along with the backstory to the original trilogy makes the new trilogy good enough.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Roman Numerals?

This isn’t the super bowl, ams.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

let me fix that for you

Is anyone else excited for Star Wars 3D?

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by Yossarian22 on Feb 5, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to go see it. Maybe not on opening weekend, but at some point.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked it

Better show than the Black Eyed Peas last year.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Both of these statements are true.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Like a Prayer was awesome

The rest of it was a Super Bowl halftime show.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 5, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I was really hoping she would do more of her classic stuff

I would have fallen over dead if she had busted out Lucky Star or La Isla Bonita.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 5, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You think some of her classic stuff is too explicit for the NFL's tastes?

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think that was it

Lots her early stuff is G-rated. I think she just wanted to showcase her new song.

And some of her classics don’t really fit her now. “Like a Virgin,” “Papa Don’t Preach,” and the like fit her as a young woman but not a 53-year-old.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That would make sense.

Bob Dylan still did “Like a Rolling Stone” when I saw him last and that song makes no sense if you imagine the singer as an elderly man.

If I saw Paul McCartney, I’d still wanna hear “I Saw Her Standing There.” If the artist can suspend my belief, then I’m fine with it.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like Mick Jagger singing "Satisfaction" or "Start Me Up" or "Jumping Jack Flash"

Wait, no… those all still work.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Feb 5, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Best Super Bowl halftimes would be a great SIS.

The only ones I can remember are the Indiana Jones one (Tina Turner?) and Prince a few years back.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this.

The Stones, The Who, and Sir Paul were just too old to rival him.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right. I don't know why I didn't include him.

I would put him above The Stones, the Who, and Sir Paul, but a little below Prince.

I wish Stevie Wonder would have played when it was at Ford Field.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Stevie Wonder would be a good one

that would appeal to old and young folks.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but something tells me he's not getting it done onstage anymore.

Stevie would need a lot of dancers and fireworks up there with him. And Beyonce. And Alicia Keys.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he meant that Stevie Wonder wouldn't

be able to put on an over-the-top, Las Vegas-style stage show.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that probably matters

People do expect a show at the Super Bowl.

I think Madonna did a good job, all things considered. The reviews are pretty good so far.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet Dr. John would put on a good halftime show.

Next year is in New Orleans. Dr. John and the Meters would be a good double bill.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be great.

My friend’s band does a great medley of Cissy Strut and Herbie Hancock’s “Chameleon.”

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that sounds awesome

what’s the name of this band, and do they ever play in Cincy?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It's called Big Booty Swing.

Right now they play in Louisville only as they are still in school at Bellarmine.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

this was a point of discussion.

Why is the super bowl still our parents’ generation? You don’t think Lady Gaga could do a good show? Or – God forbid – Lil Wayne?

There seems to be this terror of having 20somethings as the target audience, and I don’t get it. I would be spellboudn by a Kanye halftime show.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love to see Kanye.

Not so much GaGa or Lil’ Wayne.

1) The market for the Super Bowl is our parents’ generation.
2) They shied away from newer acts after the JT/Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess the Black Eyed Peas have a young target audience.

And they bombed something fierce last year.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, they were just awful.

My generation apologizes. Or at least I do.

by FordhamRam on Feb 5, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The Black Eyed Peas suck. Period.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate how one really bad decision on their part screwed things up so badly

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 6, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather see Weezy or Kanye than

a crusty old baby boomer fake their way through a halftime show, and I am not even a big fan of those two.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I think an OutKast (reunion?) show would rule.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent point

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

oooh, the man has a point.

Ghetto Musick and Mighty O would practically destroy the NFL. I would like this.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see a KISS/Flaiming LIps eleven-minute double bill.

The Avett Brothers would bring down the house as well.

But here’s my prediction for 2013 (I’m sure of it.): Van Halen

And in 2014: Petty. I have no interest in seeing or hearing him ny more than I guess I have to but I’m sure he has enough favors due him within the industry.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

They’d probably get a confused reaction from the crowd, but it’d blow my mind.

by FordhamRam on Feb 5, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That's why they would need to play the gig with KISS.

To take the edge off things a bit.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean,

there’s only so many bands that I would love to give a blank check to do a show.

Flaming lips, Weezy, Yeezy, and Avett are probably the best bets.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Flaming Lips would be incredible.

I’d love to see them live, I can’t even imagine how they’d rock the halftime show.

by crolfer on Feb 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I should've added Arcade Fire, as much shit as they get on RR.

I would also love for someone like the Dexateens get it, but they’re a little bit too South.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't understand how they did the graphics

at the halftime show tonight. Was the floor around the stage one giant green screen, or were the images projected from above?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck it

ATDI/Refused double bill next year

That’ll get everyone going

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

At the Drive in and Refused were two hardcore bands from the 90s that just reformed

They’re both headlining Coachella this year.

I was just kidding, though, they’re no way either of them would be picked

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is how forgettable Tom Petty's music is for me.

He played the Super Bowl hafltime show?

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 6, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey,

I’m not the only one. ;)

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 6, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think he sucks, btw. He just is.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 6, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that the Avett Brothers would never be booked for this gig.

At least not in the next ten to fifteen years.

And the Flaming Lips are probably very unlikely as well. But they would tear it up. That was my main point.

Also, I realize that I’ve forgotten Bon Jovi. At least I think I have. Have they already done it?

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 6, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Prince kicked 27 different kids of ass in his SB halftime show

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by jch24 on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The opening was memorable.

And the choreography and production for that “Y-O-U L-U-V” thingy was the best part of the whole montage. Even if the ‘song’ was you know… silly.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a collective gasp at the party I was at.

“oh shit! Like a Prayer! But…with Cee-lo!”

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Brother was wearing a lot of black sequins.

A lot of ’em.

I hope you don’t need any this week. Michael’s is gonna be out til Thursday.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was reasonably entertaining.

But I have a weakness for ridiculous spectacles. /marlinshomerunsculpture

by andromache on Feb 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

We watched it twice. With a 3 year-old, a 5 year-old and a 7 year-old spinning, twirling, vogue-ing and breakdancing the hardwood floors both times.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you see the lil riff on that?

Someone yanked her skirt off while she was ducking behind someone.. I think it was right before/part of her costume change.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I did notice that.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

This guy is wearing a cup, right?

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Let's not lie to ourselves

She looks pretty good for 53.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

I agree.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

HOW MANY GOD DAMN SONGS IS THIS WOMAN GOING TO SING?

And Nicki Minaj? Fuck the hell?

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

Nicki was just in her new song

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

This would be really entertaining to someone who was on shrooms.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Desk jobs are super boring.

Can the building catch fire or something?

by crolfer on Feb 5, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Clint Eastwood looks like a badass shopping for groceries.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

Clint Eastwood is the old badass EVERYONE wishes they could have been.

Seriously, he’s like Yoda. But real.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Seeing Chad catch a ball in the Super Bowl is weird

But cool

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

he's not playing much, is he?

Haven’t heard his name called a lot.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like JPP is alright

Good news for the Giants

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Damn, Seinfeld

That show hasn’t been a thing for 15 years. Weak.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 5, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, yes a hundred times over.

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So, it looks like the streak of pretty great Super Bowls will continue

Last bad one was the Colts/Bears in 2007

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

We shall see

Yeah it’s close now….if the Pats win, it’s automatically a crappy Super Bowl :)

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by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

'07 was the year with the invincible Pats- arguably the greatest SB of all time.

I think Colts-Bears was ’06.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, never mind.

’06 season. The SB was technically in ’07.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

that was dumb

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Giants are getting some Cards luck right now

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, did you all know Chris Snee is Tom Coughlin's son-in-law?

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

Did you know that Gronk is injured?

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering I know nothing about the NFL/didn't have the sound on

I couldn’t figure out what was up with the dude’s eyes.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Did that commercial just make fun of poverty in Eastern Europe?

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

I think that was Elbonia

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I supposed to get this reference?

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by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Dilbert, son

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

ah! that one!

yeah, I was pretty un-thrilled with that.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, they try to jinx Law Firm every week.

“He was NEVER fumbled” is a lot like “So and So has a PERFECT GAME”.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

JESUS!

How in the world did he catch that?

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

That's a catch

Giants better not be screwed on this

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Correction:

That was an unreal throw. Good catch and all, but good God damn. That was an amazing throw.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Cris Collingsworth 10 minutes ago: "Manningham always runs out of bounds."

Now: Manningham makes circus catch on sideline.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

Cris Collingsworth just mentioned it.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If you are the Pats, do you let the Giants score?

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't

because then the Pats would need a TD

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the only con though.

If the Giants get a first down without getting a touchdown then the Pats are screwed.
If the Giants run down the clock and still score a TD then then the Pats are screwed.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they just did

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't screw this up Giants

Don’t score too fast…

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

The Giants should just take three knees and kick it.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

Oh wait, I looked at the clock wrong. I take that back.

That would still leave 15 – 25 seconds.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Take two knees!

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Oh shit

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Well

Here we go

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Not the best play ever by Bradshaw.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

IDIOT!!!!

Take two knees!

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta go for 2

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:44 PM EST reply actions  

If they take two knees and kick a FG

then the Giants are kicking off the ball with about 15 second left and NO time outs left for the Pats

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think he expected the Pats to let him score.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

It might have been in real time, maybe

in slo-mo it looks like he should have been able to stop.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Feb 5, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine you are running at 150% of your top speed and imagine you weigh about 100 lbs more than you do

Now imagine trying to stop within 5-6 feet.

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by jch24 on Feb 6, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

inertia's a bitch!

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by Yossarian22 on Feb 6, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Terrible play calling by the Giants

Can’t give Brady this much of a chance

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

You know, that wasn't the worst play in the world

No matter how much of a chip shot it may be, I don’t think you ever want to rely on a kicker to win the Super Bowl

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

It's like a 98% chance.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

98% is too conservative.

Tynes kicking in that situation? He’ll make it more like 99.9% of the time, and I’m not exaggerating.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to be conservative.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember Cundiff

And that was only the AFC championship

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It does happen 2% of the time.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't stress enough that this is Lawrence Tynes, not Cundiff.

And it’s a 17-yard FG. Cundiff’s was even longer.

The ONLY thing I’d be worried about in the slightest would be the snap and hold.

Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean

by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, fuck.

Andrew Luck or something.

by Ram27 on Feb 5, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

I often wonder if it wouldn't be better for a team to run a hook and ladder play right there.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

If Brady pulls this off

Then good for him

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, with a brief March Madness detour along the way.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and rec'd.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, you mean spring training?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

I’m from Kentucky. It’s mandatory that I enjoy March Madness.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I will rec this.

Andrew Luck or something.

by Ram27 on Feb 5, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

absdk;fbasfb

THAT ALMOST HAPPENED!!!1

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Gronk probably could have had that in the end zone.

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by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, never mind.

He wasn’t that close.

Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean

by sexsalad on Feb 5, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah

Suck it Brady and Belichick!

"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones

by cesarhernandez on Feb 5, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Might have been because I wasn't drinking today,

but that just seemed like the most boring Super Bowl ever.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 5, 2012 9:59 PM EST reply actions  

You must have missed the 4th quarter

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched the whole thing.

It was just a bit conservative. No deep balls, no big hits, no personal fouls, etc. just bland football.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 5, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

Still, I don’t think you can call it the most boring Super Bowl ever with an ending like that

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

OH YOU MEAN THE NFL?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

who the hell is that?

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by jch24 on Feb 6, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

LDT

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by DerekH91 on Feb 6, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Where's the visor?

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by jch24 on Feb 6, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It was pretty boring until the 4th quarter.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't think it was boring

It was fairly close throughout, which can’t be said of all Super Bowls.

The commercials were kinda lame, though.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The commercials sucked.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Feb 5, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was boring as well.

But, I’ve felt that way about pretty much every NFL game this entire year.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

not me

I prefer baseball, but football is like mainlining adrenaline. It’s so exciting I can hardly bear to watch sometimes. I never have that reaction with baseball.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

And

DavidFreese.jpg

I can’t bring myself to post it, but you know the one

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by DerekH91 on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

not at all the same

I think that’s the difference between baseball and football. With football, there’s a lot more anticipation. It’s like those studies they’ve done with roller coasters and video cameras. Seeing where you’re going is much more exciting than seeing where you are.

With football, you can see where you’re going a lot more than baseball. You could see the Giants getting closer to the end zone, you knew barring a miracle they were going to score, and you could look at the clock and know Brady was going to have a chance, but not much of one.

A walkoff home run is great, but there’s not much anticipation. A lot of the excitement in baseball is after it happens, not waiting for it to happen.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

eh, it's semantics.

In baseball, you have the OMGWTFBBQ walk-off solo homer, you have the bases-loaded, no-outs in the 8th, you have the runners on 2nd and 3rd with two outs in the 9th. All of which are very different situations of varying “oh things could get interesting”, not including the sudden decapitation of a double play, key strikeout, etc.

Baseball has a lot more variables and thus, I think, is a lot more interesting. Once you get into football, when the best play for New England was to let the other team score, I think you’re getting a lot more boring.

That’s the general, 2nd-person-plural, of course, not the 2nd-person-singular.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting, yes

But that’s not the same thing as exciting.

Or maybe I should say “suspenseful.” It’s really the suspense I can’t take.

I think football is much better at stringing you along. Partly, it’s the clock. Anything with a clock ticking down is automatically more suspenseful.

Plus, even if a team is stopped/fails to score, it carries over to the next play. Because of field position. Where in baseball, any advantage gained is wiped away when the inning ends.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You take 24, I take The Shining.

There’s obviously no “right” answer. just different ways of keeping you on the edge of your seat. If neither were interesting to us, we’d be cricket fans.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 5, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily see it as a good thing

Seriously, sometimes the suspense in football is so intense I can’t watch. I never have that reaction with baseball.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll not disagree with you.

But let’s continue with your Super Bowl example…

You could see the Giants getting closer to the end zone, you knew barring a miracle they were going to score, and you could look at the clock and know Brady was going to have a chance, but not much of one…

And then the Patriots’ linebackers let the Giants score. Let. Them. Score.

Boring.

The only thing interesting about the last four minutes of that game was the fact that Collinsworth all but predicted that the Patriots would let the Giants score. And then they did.

And then ‘Game Ending #12-B’ happened. Woo hoo.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

you gotta be kidding

Letting them score was great. Not least because they didn’t want to score, at least not that soon.

Not something you see very often.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I disagree! Way more anticiption in baseball thn in FB, which is what I thought you were going for at first

Hence my response below to your original comment about FB vs baseball. Although, I agree that the walk off homers, although awesome, are more in the football wham, bam adrenaline rush category!

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by darthmom on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I get what Bubba is saying...

Baseball is a slow build up of anticipation. Someone hits a single, then the next guy sacrifices the runner over. So you got a guy in scoring position and you’re interested but you know that a dozen things could happen to keep him from scoring.

But then the next batter — a shallow fly drops in, the runner moves to third and you got a guy on first and third! The excitement level and anticipation starts to increase.

The pitcher intentionally walks the next batter — bases loaded. Now you’re really getting excited and focusing intensely. If the score is close and it’s late in the game the tension can even be agonizing. The next batter is up — strikes out. You’re slightly deflated but only momentarily because bases are still loaded and there’s only one out.

Next batter – quick bouncer to third, play at the plate, out! Ugh, now everything seems to be lost but there is still hope! Bases loaded, two outs, batter up. First pitch strike, the tension is on the rise again, second pitch, fouled off strike two, the tension is really building because you know this could be the best feeling ever or a huge disappointment! Third pitch, you’re on the edge of your seat, nervous energy coursing through your veins, ball one! Whew, you relax slightly but the tension shoots right back up on the next pitch, fouled off, aaah!, next pitch is taken — ball two! Bases load, full count — ohmygod, ohmygod, ohmygod! Next pitch – fouled off, pitch after that — fouled off, holy crap, you feel like your going to die, the tension is unbearable, then the next pitch — BAM! — A DOUBLE UP THE GAP, 2 RUNS SCORE!! OHMYGAWD!! YES!!

Then after a couple of minutes of bliss…. all the tension is gone and you feel intensely satisfied and happy. Whew! :)

Football, on the other hand, is more wham, bam, thank you ma’am. Still fun but not as intensely satisfying.

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by darthmom on Feb 6, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Baseball is a game of anticipation

I am plagiarizing someone but I am not sure whom.

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by Yossarian22 on Feb 6, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say it's more a game of hope than anticipation

It’s a lot harder to see what’s ahead. Bases loaded, no outs can still mean no runs scored. It’s deflating if no runs score, but not as crushing as first down on the one yard line without scoring. Because of the differing expectations.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Game

Great Win for THE GIANTS !!!

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Feb 5, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Well, my prediction was lousy.

But how was I supposed to know that Brady and his receivers were going to go into the locker room at halftime and get old?

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 5, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

So, the party I went to was indeed lame.

But, the chicken thighs I made turned out well and the host had a bottle of this at the open bar:

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Feb 5, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Ahmad Bradshaw!

Way to represent for the Herd.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Feb 5, 2012 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I am going to sleep remembering that there was a man named Whispering Death.

Good night, y’all. And may we all look forward to the reporting of various pitchers and catchers.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 6, 2012 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

Awesome.

But I wonder what happens to the ‘GIANTS T-SHIRTS GET HERE MONDAY’ gif?

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 6, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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