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  • For Arroyo, the zip is back (right?)
    Tales of optimism are par for the course at the outset of Spring Training. And if there's anyone who should be looking forward instead of backwards, it's Bronson Arroyo. Naturally it's thumbs up on his health coming into camp: "This is as healthy as I've been in a long time. My arm's always been healthy. But my back's been banged up for years. I think that's affected flexibility." But is the zip back? Bronson's hopeful, but he's not making any guarantees: "If I'm throwing, 85, 86 like I did last year, I've got nothing else to give it. I gave myself this entire offseason to try to rejuvenate some of that zip. If it's not there, it's not going to be there. Between now and mid-spring, I should be able to see - by the time I throw three, four innings."
  • Paintball, swimming, bowling, track, and karate have all been part of BP's workout regime
    Which from this point forward will be known as "El Beeperino's modern pentathalon." On his bowling game: "They call me 'Kingpin.' I've got three perfect games in bowling. I average over 200, and it is something I just love to do." BTW, this is the latest feature from youth correspondent Meggie Zahneis, who continues to do impressive work.
  • Chapman has a clean bill of health
    Pitching Coach Bryan Price: "I saw him throw a bullpen the other day. He looked pretty good. His breaking ball was good. He's been in Florida throwing since he got the green light from Dr. (Tim) Kremchek after that shoulder tightness."
  • New guy optimism - Madson edition
    Ryan Madson fell in the Reds' lap this winter after a long-term deal with Philadelphia never reached fruition. But he's plenty happy to be in Goodyear: "As expected, it's been great. There are a lot of great guys that have performed well over the last four or five years. That's a good base. We can put something together that I've had in Philly. It's that jell. Back there, we kept our own garden tight." Also, ashersky points out that Fangraphs has named Madson's changeup one of the best in 2011.
  • A dozen years later, Brett Tomko is back with the Reds
    On a minor league deal, as reported (!) by MLBTR. Last year, Tomko shuttled between the Rangers and their Triple-A affiliate. Did you know that Tomko is the winningest pitcher drafted & signed by the Reds in the last 28 years? He pitched three years for the Reds - in the 1990s. He reportedly rolled into Goodyear this weekend listening to Flagpole Sitta on his Discman.
  • Grab a chair, because Hal's spinnin' some Spring Training yarns
    There's an alligator named Marge, who started out well enough. Paul O'Neill and The Nasty Boys got rowdy; Tony Fernandez got surly. And Jack Morris cried.

Star-divide

  • Reds fan seeks Fan Cave crown
    There's a few more days to vote for the MLB Fan Cave contest. And let's face it, you're not going to watch all 50 videos, so you may as well vote for the lone Reds fan - Dayton's Emily Szink. She's a firecracker with a slick, entertaining video.
  • Blue Wahoos owner pumps in $500K to Maritime Park
    If you're roadtripping to Pensacola this year to catch the Reds' new high A AA affiliate, you won't get shortchanged on ballpark fare thanks to the latest capital infusion from new owner Quint "did I" Studer. The extra 500 large will be plowed towards concession equipment and furnishings at the stadium.
  • John Franco's kid is chasing the dream in college ball
    Nothing makes you feel old like the son of a ballplayer you remember become a player in his own right. JJ Franco may never make the bigs, but if Brown University's 2B does he'll at least be able to ask his dad, John Franco, about the ins and outs of being a young major leaguer.
  • So long, Mike Cameron
    The one-time Red, famously shipped along with others for Ken Griffey Jr., announced his retirement over the weekend. Chronically underrated, Cameron led the surprising '99 team in bWAR and then put up several fine seasons in Seattle, among other places. He was also involved in one of the scariest outfield collisions I've seen when he bumped noggins in New York with Carlos Beltran. Happy trails, Mike.

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Just want to say for 2 years been looking for my sweet broken-in Reds Cap that I wore '10!!

And finally over the weekend, I found it!! I’m officially ready for this season…

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

this pic almost says where it was...

It was actually buried in one of the closets at my parents house. Lost it helping them move. But found it helping mom dukes moving stuff all over the house again….

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 20, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

here's to hoping it brings back the mojo of the '10 season...

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

weezer'ed

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Feb 20, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I've still got...

My Reds hat that I used to wear for high school baseball practice over 15 years ago. It was a cheap mesh hat, but I loved it. At this point the bill just flaps because all the material inside has disintegrated.

Trying to pull off "having no money and talking to no one" as well as the Reds have.

by badenjr on Feb 20, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

baseball prospectus 2012 ships soon

And I combined that item with the two “Best of BP” volumes. I’m a gonna have lots of reading material for spring training. I was close to retreading Wire to Wire!!!

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Feb 20, 2012 10:20 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Wire to Wire run out of rubber?

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Feb 20, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Or you could go to a Barnes and Noble

I saw it there yesterday

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

obc does not patronize chains, so he ordered it online

(that’s different)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a sick logic.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

and made up

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

How can I trust you to know if you are telling the truth?

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Veritaserum?

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Feb 20, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon learning karate?

He must be preparing for another fight with the Cardinals this year!

Respect my authoritah!

by BigBadBruce on Feb 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

right??

almost trying to get a pulled hammy without ever playing a game yet. SMH, stretch sucka!!

Niners,Nets,Reds & USC!!!

The Most Interesting Man In The World---->Mikhail Prokhorov!!!

by Kidd2Petrovic on Feb 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys getting the cold wall

that’s all cold and covered in ice? That bitch is cold!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Subtitle nominee for chapet 12 of The JCH Story

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Nope, it's our own thing

Bob Ballard (who found the wreck) and James Cameron (who directed the movie) are both Explorers in Residence at Nat Geo. So, we’re getting their stuff.

by Brendanukkah on Feb 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Explorers in Residence, huh?

I have to admit, I really want that title on my CV someday.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

true statement

lot of great artifacts and pieces.. and that wall was ridiculously cold

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Feb 22, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

(Titanic v. Iceberg round two 4/15/12, PPV)

Vince McMahon guest referees

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Feb 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

You're on fire today

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The complete lack of flexibility of baseball players amuses me

I would be getting absolutely no benefit from a hamstring strech where my knee was bent, and I’ve even had hamstring re-attachment surgery! Straighten those legs, boys!

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Feb 20, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

i tore my quad in high school

along with the tendons and ligaments that connected my hip to my left leg. didn’t have the surgery for it, as i’m not much of an athlete and it would have sped up the recovery time by 2 weeks at the most, and cost a helluva lot more. how did i do this, you ask? by playing kickball in gym class, that’s how. take those stretches seriously, kids.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Feb 20, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't even sit indian style

"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."

by Ohio Redskins on Feb 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

that dude needs to chill out

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Feb 21, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

I got a good chuckle out of that one!

"If there's football in heaven I will be thinking of Sean Taylor every time it thunders."

by Ohio Redskins on Feb 20, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a hamstring thing, though? I thought that was hip flexibility.

I have ridiculously tight hamstrings and have never in my memory been able to touch my toes, but sitting cross-legged is practically my natural state.

by the finest muffins on Feb 20, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm the least flexible person of all

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Feb 21, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

that is fucking terrifying.

I messed up my right hip pretty good in 2009 and my right shoulder in 2007. I didn’t do surgery either, because a) money b) trying to come back as soon as possible. I was wrong on both parts. You try twice, you lose twice.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

luckily, i made a full recovery

but i still freeze and hold my breath whenever my hip pops, which is about once a week.

for insurance purposes, it was referred to as an illiac crest fracture. so i fractured my hip in high school.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Feb 20, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You're limber...

How YOU doin’?

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I am!

33 years old and I can still do a full split. Yay, childhood dance classes!

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Feb 20, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i logged in so i could say something like this

then i log in and find you already have 2 recs for it. well, green’d now.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Feb 20, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

This thread is going to go downhill very quickly

And I am going to happily sit back and admire the results

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Feb 20, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

BASEBALL!

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Feb 20, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully he paid for the postage

otherwise, you was robbed!

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That Hal column is pretty great.

I remember an interview with Reggie Sanders about all of the spring trainings he’s done. Before the interviewee could even finish the question “What was the worst place for ST?” Reggie was all “Damn! I HATE Plant City!”

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

The Reds are still stuck with Bakersfield?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct.

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.

by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Feb 20, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Bakersfield?

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Feb 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Bakedfield

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

/SoCal'd

"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 21, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It is indeed

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Feb 20, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

From Fay

END is hurt, Cueto will start opening day.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

I genuinely enjoy how there's a different reason for not pitching Arroyo OD every year.

I don’t know what’s larger: Arroyo’s pill arsenal, Arroyo’s pitch arsenal, or Arroyo’s excuse arsenal.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you rather have Arroyo start at 3rd over Cueto?

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Feb 20, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If it was Arroyo over Cueto at third

you would have consistent attempts at 5-1-3 put outs on routine grounders to third.

It's not worth winning if you can't win big.

by chazerize on Feb 20, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

How is the debate between Cueto and Arroyo

and not Cueto and Latos? It’s comments like this about veterans that make me feel like Dusty may already be in full season form.

It's not worth winning if you can't win big.

by chazerize on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't be a debate at all

the emphasis that people put on game 1 of a 162-game schedule is kinda silly.

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There you go, sucking the fun out of the glorious game again

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Why, because the baby looks fake

or because there aren’t any actual boobs in the picture?

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't even see a baby

It’s possible that there could be anything under that blanket. Like a toy truck, a ham, or even another blanket!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

A Ham?

It’s The Worst Best Christmas Pageant Ever!

by crolfer on Feb 20, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Mmmmmm

Ham, burrito…it’s about to be second lunch time!

It's not how far you go, it's how go you far. - Dave Marshak

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 20, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sheeeeeeeeeeit

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Burritos gotta eat too, 'tHan

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

boob sucking is sexual in nature!

i learned from boston public that women have orgasms from babies nursing.

offensive!

by 'tHan on Feb 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If peeing your pants is cool

Consider me Miles Davis!

It's not how far you go, it's how go you far. - Dave Marshak

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 20, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Feb 20, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a natural and beautiful thing.

And so is the kid suckling on it.

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Feb 20, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If the 1990 team didn't win game 1 of 162

you wouldn’t have that link in your signature.

So there!

It's not worth winning if you can't win big.

by chazerize on Feb 20, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

1955 Brooklyn Dodgers won their first 9 games

and were never caught once they moved into first place, but they don’t get credit for a Wire-to-Wire season because the Cubs had already beaten the Reds twice before the Dodgers played a game. So, when the Dodgers won their first game of the season, they were already a half-game out. True story.

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You and your "facts"

Always gotta come and ruin an argument.

It's not worth winning if you can't win big.

by chazerize on Feb 20, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Beats just ruining an argument.

"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 21, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Pudgy?

He calls Cueto pudgy?

I wonder if END can stay healthy. It’s starting to look like he’s injury-prone, not just unlucky.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It is the same calf muscle he hurt last year.

You would think it would have healed by now., unless he reinjured it in winter ball.

Who knows, we could all forget about this injury by May, or it could one of those nagging injuries that doesn’t let him get his swings in, and doesn’t let him play until May. Perhaps Todd Frazier got an END voodoo doll.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting comments from Arroyo
If it’s not there, it’s not going to be there.

What’s he going to do if it’s not there? Continue to take the mound every five days out of pure stubborness, regardless if it hurts his team?

by ams78 on Feb 20, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if he would retire?

Now that I think about it, he seems like the kinda fella who would hang it up if he didn’t have it anymore. That seems the only way to get out from under his contract.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's what I was wondering

I’ll believe it when I see it. But still, what if he decides, mid-March that he doesn’t have “it” and retires?

by ams78 on Feb 20, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

Who walks away from that kind of money? Other than… Was it Jose Lima?

by crolfer on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Gil Meche walked away from $12,000,000

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Feb 20, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Lima gave up some big money as well.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Feb 20, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a HELL of a thing for you to say, sir

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Either I'm dumb or my reply moved

I was commenting on “Gil Meche sounds made up”. Weird.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

It sounds made up and weird.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt that happens

Reds will likely try to talk him into going on the DL first, unless Oswalt is still available…

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Talk him into it?

Does he have to agree to it?
Which brings me back to my original point. If he doesn’t have “it” he’ll continue to take the mound every five days and hurt his team.

by ams78 on Feb 20, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, as opposed to just retiring

“Hey Bronson, don’t give up yet, let’s work on some stuff on the DL. You’re arm’s just tired, dude.”

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That's honestly what I thought he was implying

He seems to realize that if he’s lost his velocity, it isn’t coming back and his career is over.

Bronson’s mentioned in several interviews that he’s got a full slate of things planned for his life post-baseball, and he seems the type to walk away with no regrets.

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Feb 20, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if he retires

he walks away from any salary he has coming to him.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 20, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a hard time seeing him retiring, if he sucks this year, he has one more chance to try and get things right.

There are a fair number of pitchers who have proven serviceable with an 85 MPH fast.

If he had 5 more years on his contract, I think it would be more likely that he retire, just because he wouldn’t enjoy getting bombed every 5 days for the next five years.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think money deferred from 2010/2011 would still have to come to him.

Otherwise, that’s pretty dick.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

do you mean 2011/2012?

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

he has deferred money from 2010?

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

time is an artificial construct.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

that is my argument, not yours, Foucault,

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea where or when I am right now.

This past weekend was Mardi Gras and I celebrated it in Little Bosnia.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you Carmen Sandiego?

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I just downloaded teh Carman Sandiego theme song

Best 99 cents I spent all day.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Cy's a time traveler

and we just learned that Arroyo’s 2012 season is going to be terrible. :(

by crolfer on Feb 20, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you from the future?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDS IN 2012????

by ams78 on Feb 20, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

Albert Belle didn’t retire because he would’ve lost a ton of money. So, the Orioles kept on the 60-day DL for like 3 straight years.

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Similar thing with Bagwell

He didn’t play in ‘06 but didn’t officially retire until after the season, the day the Astros and the insurer settled their dispute as to who would pay his salary that year.

by ken on Feb 20, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the Astros had a dispute with Bagwell himself

I feel like Bagwell, who had missed much of the last two seasons with a deteriorating arthritic shoulder, had reached a point where he the pain had subsided and he felt he was strong enough to play, but the Astros did not want to activate him, because if they activated him they would be on the hook for his entire salary that year, and insurance wouldn’t pay them a dime.

Also Kirby Puckett spent 2 years on the 60 Day D.L., after his eye injury.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They did.

But according to Wiki, they decided to pay his salary after he played some games in ST of 2006, then filed a claim with their insurer.

by ken on Feb 20, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It would be interesting if that would be negotiated...

IE, Arroyo says, I’m thinking of retiring, Mr. Jockety. Let’s still pay me my deferred money otherwise I’ll just go get a couple of surgeries at a cost of about $6 Mill+ to you.

by Nasty N8 on Feb 20, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

fun conversation topic:

who will retire with more wins? Leake (current: 20), Cueto (current: 41) or Arroyo (current: 112)?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to go with Cueto.

But, I wouldn’t be surprised it if was Arroyo.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Feb 20, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think it will be Leake or Arroyo.

I think Leake is more likely to be a useful big league pitcher 10 years from now than Cueto.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Leake will retire with 356 wins.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

I read this portion of this thread last night on my phone.

It starts out with Bronson speculating about his own possibly declining abilities and then gets to Jose Lima, Gil Meche and Albert Belle.

That’s not good.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 21, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The team gave him the contract and the team put him in the rotation

If Arroyo starts every 5th day, it is because of Dusty Baker and the Reds, not Arroyo’s stubbornness.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I drove home and hugged everyone in my family.

No one knew what I was talking about except my dad.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Feb 20, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I was an idiot

I was at a meeting that I scheduled during that game. So I missed it.

"Uh, we're going to win for you tonight...Schottzie."-Chris Sabo

by Yossarian22 on Feb 20, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard Cubs fans are nice in Chicago

It’s the d-bags that find it necessary to overtake our stadium whenever the Cubs come to town that gives them a bad name. Go figure.

Respect my authoritah!

by BigBadBruce on Feb 21, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Something tells me that you're one of few Red Reporters that would have that experience with Cub fans being polite and buying you drinks

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Feb 21, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

in other words

brooke … a free round from the cubbie faithful
jeremy … punched in the face and tossed into the chicago river

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by joshuar9476 on Feb 21, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

obc and sukr totally tried to get into a 4-some with a Cubs fan couple that we sold our extra tickets to one early RR outing

true story.

As a matter of fact, I think it was the day most of us met jch24 for the first time too.

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by Slyde on Feb 21, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably-under different circumstances, I might find myself in said river too.

One guy told me it was just adorable seeing a girl get so worked up about baseball. Normally that kind of comment would make me resort to violence, but I was too happy and excited to bother with punching him for being so sexist. I hugged him and drank the beer he bought me instead.

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Feb 21, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

happy birthday.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy Birthday!

You’ve definitely picked an excellent birthday viewing session.

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Feb 20, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

i was there

not at the gas station. at the game. tweetup’d

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Feb 20, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy birthday

I was in the moon deck, still the coolest thing I’ve ever witnessed. Until this October.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Feb 20, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I was there

With my wife and 6 week old son. I can’t wait until he’s old enough to tell everyone he was actually there.

"We don't worry about the pennant much, we just like to see the boys hit it deep."

by beasleymachine on Feb 20, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I was bartending downtown and the restaurant didn't have a TV at that time.

So, I had my laptop and was watching it on Gameday. I heard the fireworks go off before Gameday showed the HR. I immediately put on my Reds cap, left the bar unattended, ran to Fountain Square and started high fiving strangers. Downtown was a blast that night.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

you really left the bar unattended???

Did you get in trouble?

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by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We were dead that night (probably because of the whole no TV thing)

I was gone for less than 5 minutes, so no one really cared.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Feb 20, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

I thought you meant you left and didn’t go back.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

#BestShapeOfHisLife


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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

Nope

Homer makes soap out of human fat, like in Fight Club.

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by Slyde on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

you violated rule number one.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

And rule number two!

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 21, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

There's something very "serial-killery" about Homer's face.

I bet he uses the soap to wash the skin of his victims so he can wear it.

by Supreme Olajuwon on Feb 20, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Remember when...

we would have all been clamoring to make this our new avatar?

Ah, Jared Weaver.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 21, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Sheldon's new pixxx

Bruce certainly looks more like Davis, less like Dunn:

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Feb 20, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Shoplifting's a victimless crime

Like punching someone in the dark!

by Brendanukkah on Feb 20, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thrillho!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Feb 20, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like Bruce has gained some good definition in his arms.

His arms have always been pretty big, but they look more chiseled. Good for him.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Feb 20, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

his face looks so lean

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by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sheldon said

he saw Janish there was well as Bruce.

Maybe Janny really was in the back of the truck. The route from Beaumont to Phoenix passes right through Houston.

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by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Who?

"If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold." - Hawkeye00

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 21, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he did look a lot thinner

in that pic of him on the sidelines.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Manny signs with the A's

FTH is Billy Beane going to do with all of the OF/DH types he signed?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Feb 20, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

I knew this was you before glancing at the avatar....well done sir

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

"It's like theres a party in my mouth and everyone's invited!"

Now wikipedia is trying to prove you wrong … they count mattingly as having said misfoutune … actually the article is a pretty good read for the superstars reactions and canseco’s stupidity

Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.

by joshuar9476 on Feb 21, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

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