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The origins of relief pitchers or: Why I can't stop thinking about Josh Judy

Just another waiver wire easy-come, easy-go?  Or future Hall of Fame closer and legendary bad ass?

I'm fascinated by relief pitchers. They are interesting because they are clearly the third-most important squad on any baseball team. Bullpens are overwhelmingly populated by cast-offs, riff-raff, no-good-nicks, and ne'er-do-wells. Building a bullpen is less like selecting a playground kickball team and more like staffing a pirate ship. The only ones willing to take the job are ones that can't get jobs doing anything better.

See, most relief pitchers end up in the bullpen. What I mean is, they begin their baseball lives doing something else. Dennis Eckersley was a 20-game winner as a starter before he became a dominant closer. Mariano Rivera was a promising starting pitcher prospect before he magically invented the cutter and became the best closer ever. Trevor Hoffman began his career as a shortstop before going on to set the saves record. Countless guys like Nick Masset and Sean Marshall wash out of the rotation for various reasons, frustrating their managers and GMs, only to end up making careers for themselves as relievers. So most relievers end up in the bullpen, because they started doing something else and failed at it. It's the cold truth, but it's the truth all the same. The bullpen is like grad school for ball players.

The guys that really fascinate me the most are the guys that begin their careers as relief pitchers. These aren't the straight-A students who fell in with the wrong crowd and gradually turned into high school misfits. These are the badass kids who showed up late the first day of kindergarten with half a pack of Marlboro Reds rolled up in their t-shirt sleeve and someone else's blood on their jeans. They didn't become relief pitchers, they were born relief pitchers.

I bring all this up because I've had a secret crush on one of these bad boys for a while now. The week after the Mat Latos trade, the same day as the Sean Marshall trade, the Reds made a much less interesting move. They picked up Josh Judy off the waiver wire. He had been DFA'd by the Indians to make room for whatever. He was the 41st man on a 40-man roster, and so the Reds were able to pick him up for nothing. Teams collect relievers like him every off-season, pulling them out of the bargain bin with the slim hope they might turn into something valuable. This year, the Reds have picked up the likes of Andrew Brackman, Luis Atilano, and Kanekoa Texeira to go along with Judy. I think I can confidently say that none of these guys will throw meaningful innings for the Reds this year. But there is just something about this Judy fella that I can't quite let go.

Star-divide

Look, the story of "relief ace comes out of nowhere" is not a novel one. Joakim Soria was a Rule 5 draft pick. Mike Adams was claimed off waivers and traded a few times for garbage before locking it down. Of course, the "unknown player never makes good and eventually coaches high school" story is much more common. But something tells me Judy has a chance to be the next Mike Adams rather than the next Bert Spurlick.

Check it: Judy made his debut last year with the Indians, shuttling back and forth between Columbus and the big league club all year. He only pitched 14 innings for the Tribe and got shelled pretty hard. But come on, 14 innings is nothing. Take a look at his minor league numbers:

Year Age Tm Lev ERA G SV IP HR BB IBB SO HBP WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB
2007 21 2 Teams Rk-A- 0.36 13 1 25.1 0 11 1 21 3 1.145 6.4 0.0 3.9 7.5 1.91
2008 22 2 Teams A-A+ 3.26 42 1 88.1 6 26 2 97 6 1.109 7.3 0.6 2.6 9.9 3.73
2009 23 2 Teams AA-A+ 2.83 41 14 54.0 2 18 0 70 3 1.056 6.5 0.3 3.0 11.7 3.89
2010 24 2 Teams AAA-AA 2.94 40 2 49.0 5 14 0 57 0 1.388 9.9 0.9 2.6 10.5 4.07
2011 25 Columbus AAA 3.12 50 23 52.0 5 25 2 60 1 1.327 7.6 0.9 4.3 10.4 2.40
5 Seasons 2.81 186 41 268.2 18 94 5 305 13 1.195 7.6 0.6 3.1 10.2 3.24
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 1/4/2012.


I dunno man, I just don't know. I look at a guy with strikeout numbers like that, matched with a decent ability to suppress walks and home runs, and I see potential. He has good stuff, too, with a hard fastball that can hit the mid-90s and a strong slider. Shut-down bullpens almost always have at least one guy who kinda came out of nowhere, right? Maybe Judy is that guy for the Reds.

I know, I know. It's stupid to dedicate this much time talking about some waiver-claim relief pitcher. Seriously, the chances that this guy amounts to much are pretty slim. But I won't count him out. Judy doesn't even give a shit about that. He's gonna pull his motorcycle up (not wearing a helmet) to the Spring Training complex in Goodyear next month and glare at the Indians entrance. He won't say anything, though. He'll just put out his cigarette on his tongue and stick the remainder behind his left ear. Then he'll walk into the Reds' clubhouse and drop his garbage bag in front of his locker and George Thorogood will start playing over the PA. He'll pull out his glove, his spikes, his switchblade, and a picture of his motorcycle. He's a bad ass and he doesn't care what you think. He knows no other way but bad. He was born a reliever.

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"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wink.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

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by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Jan 5, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 7, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

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"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

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Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Oh, hai!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

$

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

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Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Where's Spidey when you need him?

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I've got one of those too

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

no no no no no no no

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

/clicktitleatMAXIMUMSPEED

"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus

by Doc Scratch on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

#

by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Are those ski boots?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

beat me to it.

I think they are, and they take this to a new level of awesome.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think he is not out of place with ski boots on

There is a teenage boy or girl in the background with ski googles on.

Also appears to be snow town equipment in the background. Might be one of those artificial snow ski resorts.

As far as the bear skin rug on his back and the jorts, I cant speak for those.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 5, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for truthiness

"This is the St. Louis Cardinals we're talking about. They suck. Screw them. With a shovel. The sharp metal end. And then set them on fire." - crolfer

by rorschach1979 on Jan 5, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I read that men with a lot of body/facial hair

are much more likely to go bald.

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jan 5, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Parece bosque

Feo, pero que bien baila.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 5, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds reasonable to me

No hair on my head, but I could be hunted for my pelt.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I have hair anywhere you might want, need or expect to find hair.

And some other places too.

Boom! goes this theory.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 7, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

..Meant to respond to jch's post below.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 7, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I've said it for years

Think of someone you know that’s really hairy and over the age of 30. They probably have a bald spot or thinning hair. It’s like the hair hormone “moves”.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it has something to do with too much testosterone

seriously

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That's right.

Bald men have a higher level of testosterone. This leads to more body hair overall, but eventually causes scalp baldness. There is actually a full-proof cure for going bald: castration.

Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

does this mean

Brendan is the Alpha Male? ;-)

Actually, male-pattern baldness is often considered attractive in other cultures. To the point that men with hair will shave it so they look like they’re balding. Think the traditional samurai hairstyle, or the tonsure (though now associated with monks, it probably predates Christianity).

As a culture, we are unusually obsessed with youth, so bald isn’t beautiful for us. But that hasn’t been the case historically.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Hot bald guy:


just sayin’

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 7, 2012 3:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Your wife reads RR?

Wait…..someone MARRIED YOU?

/IkeedIkeed

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Who's roasting who? WHO'S ROASTING WHOOOOOO?

/MaximumOverdrive’d

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

surely the most fun thing I'll read all week

I’m a professional lurker, but reading this was such a joy, I felt that publicly applauding it was my civic duty.

by Davis Stuns Goliath on Jan 5, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Gald to hear from ya!

The lurkers are my evil minions, donchaknow.

Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice article.

I liked the pick up of Judy, just because of his K/BB ratio and the fact he doesn’t give up many homeruns. I think both him and Brackman could be very serviceable out of the pen this year.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

By the way is Corky Miller a relief pitcher.

He must be.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Corky isnt a relief pitcher.
These are the badass kids who showed up late the first day of kindergarten with half a pack of Marlboro Reds rolled up in their t-shirt sleeve and someone else’s blood on their jeans

Corky didn’t show up late to the first day of kindergarten. Corky didn’t go to school because he was educated by the streets with that man mustache.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 5, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like Corky edcated the kids on the streets.

He was the teacher, not a fucking student.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously? 1 mile?

Get in shape, moran.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell do you think he's trying to do? Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's racist!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No, that's Africanist

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You shut up, schlong noggin.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, now you're stealing my terms of derision?

I’ll show you a…no, who am I kidding. Just getting up out of my chair has me out of breath.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like somebody needs a glazed donut pick-me-up!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

I’mma get an orange. This shit’s gotta change.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

already am. but i have #snacktime in 35 minutes. greek yogurt!

from the start of my honeymoon on dec. 16 to monday jan. 2 i put on 14 lbs. FOURTEEN. it was like being in heaven but good lord do i regret it.

by GrooveLeg on Jan 5, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

That IS impressive. How tall are you?

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

those commercials annoy the shit out of me

I want to go to the Corral and dip my penus in the waterfall and use the defense of “you said I could dip whatever I want in it in the commercial.”

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how hot that chocolate is

Only one way to find out….

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, from the times I've been in the Corral, I'm not sure anyone would mind

Of course, you would stand out among the customers in that your junk is not completely inaccessible due to their tremendous guts.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Inacessible Junk...

I’m pretty sure I saw them open for The Black Sofas at the Smoking Loon festival a few years ago.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, but that wasn't their classic lineup.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 7, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, I don't think I'll be partaking of the choco-loco-craziness

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

the one in Mason lacks the "Wonderfall" part...

it was just a huge bowl of liquid chocolate surrounded by cookies, rice krispie treats, marshmallows, and morbidly obese people.

by GrooveLeg on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You have to check the listings closely for Chocolate Wonderfall in 3D.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 7, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, well that's not sooo bad.

If I put on 14 lbs in 2.5 weeks, it would probably be life threatening.

Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?

by andromache on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

/Francisco Cordero’d

Respect my authoritah!

by BigBadBruce on Jan 5, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

A lettuce wrap, or a wrap with lettuce in it.

Sometimes I make chicken wraps and some lettuce goes in there.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It was the first run in over a month.

A hard partying, holiday fueled, steak/pork/stuffing/beer glazed month.

It was ugly.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 5, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

In a month?

Jesus, I AM lazy. I don’t think I’ve had a good sweat-breaking exercise in a year or two.

Thanks for setting the alarm, KMiB. I’mma go home today and get werkin’.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not Catholic

And I’ve already stipulated in my will that I want to be cremated and scattered over the internet. So you can come to that, I guess.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

"come to that", heheh

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

make sure to switch hands during the workout

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

You are.

At midnight on NYE, i was chugging bottles of champagne.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

They do a run there every year, and it's actually really fun.

The park is packed with people, most of whom aren’t running. But there’s a DJ and girls on risers dancing and fireworks and the whole deal. Then you run around the CP loop with people in costume and drunk people on the side of the road cheering you on. It’s a good time.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It does sound fun.

Do the girls get naked?

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

At midnight on December 31st?

No, they don’t.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Why because it is a little cold?

That just makes them perky and then they need someone to warm them up.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Classy

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

cockblocker buzzkill

is your new band name

Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I like your think!

Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife and I were in NYC and we ran it last year on our tenth anniversary.

I told myself at the time that I wanted to run a 5K or something with some friends every New Year’s Eve or New Year’s Day.

I completely forgot about all that and instead we got drunk on our eleventh and I left my phone at the Tip Top.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 7, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Christ on a Wedding Cake!

The only thing the FMM and ran on our 10th was a super 8 film of our 3rd anniversary – Eat Your Heart Shaped Bed out Alan !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqdeTUq8EcI&feature=related

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 7, 2012 3:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I was dancing with a 6'3" woman who loved the "limbo all the way" dance move"

It was quietly a hell of a workout. But it’s been too damned cold to leave the house sober since.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

are all women taller than you 6'3"

I had a buddy that was about 5’6", and he used to refer to all women taller than him as giants at least 6’3"

He still is one of the funniest people i know

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife actually is 6'3".

jch can verify.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Indeed she is, a lovely woman

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 6, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

But I bet you not 5'6"!

#heightisrelative

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 6, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not 5'6", I'm 5'9"!

But no, anyone under 5’7" or above 6’0" I can’t really accurately gauge the height of.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 7, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm 6'1"

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 8, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never been a runner

Even in the best shape of my life, I couldn’t run distance. I could run four straight games of full court hoops no problem, but plain ol’ running is something I’ve never been able to do.

I have a bike though. And a gym three minutes away. I need to be doing the that.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Long distance running hurts my knees.

I’d make it through a football game, playing both ways, and not taking a play off. I’d lose 8 pounds, but I usually felt fine.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't do any lateral motion for too long anymore

I can still run or row, and maybe play a few games of soccer. But football, ultimate frisbee, anything with sharp cuts and I’m on ice the whole next day.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

what did the rest of the team in?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

In my case, an utter lack of ability

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Biking good

Not hard on your joints, and you can get as much workout as you are looking for.

Just gotta find the time to get up in the hills….

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 5, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

Mrs. Scrabbles is out of town this evening, so I might just have to hit up Columbus Gold. Thanks for the idea!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

let me guess:

moved to Denver?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

We move a week from today, actually.

But I left my job already, so I’ve got all day to think of things I should be doing (like running).

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 5, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

(and fapping)

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It's almost closing time in Dublin

Hurry, open the beer!

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 5, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

have fun with the altitude!

(you will die and it will not be pretty)

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I did the Bolder Boulder 10k a week after getting there,

the “video camera of you crossing the finish line!” shows me waddling over the line and then leaning over a garbage can wondering if I’m ever going to wish for death harder.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds truly wretched

I went to New Mexico in my senior year of high school. We did about a 3 mile hike up a mountain, and by the end of the climb, I was seriously considering crawling on my hands and knees. I can’t imagine running that

by DerekH91 on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I ran in that when I was 11 I think.

The altitude ain’t easy, for sure, but I’ve lived in it before. I spent a year in Jackson Hole at 6600 ft, so I’m hoping my bod can manage.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I found it only took a month or so for my body to adjust

by the end of the month, I was playing bball at 5500+ like it was sea level. It was definitely noticeable at first though!

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 6, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

My comment got deleted relating to that.

And it wasn’t anywhere near my usual, uh, baseline. What gives?

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there was some kind of server blip

For awhile, RR was telling me there was only 1 comment on a thread I know had dozens earlier today.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome, it's working!

(Nobody tell BF)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunno man, I didn't get to see the comment

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

All I said was ......poor Justin.

about the grad school bit.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't delete it

but I think I can speak for ‘Rammer. It wasn’t vicious or anything, certainly much tamer than most of the shit flying around here lately, but we think the personal shots need to be reigned in a bit.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Screw you!!!

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, I miss my college days

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I miss college women

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to move to Athens, GA after spending a couple days there

over the holidays. Great beer bars, great restaurants, great record stores – but most importantly – tons of hot college girls everywhere.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The South really does hot women right

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Tons of hot college girls with that adorable southern drawl, no less

The genuine kind, not the kind that girls from Highland Heights get after a year at UK.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I went there, many moons ago.

Lived on campus. It was all you say and more.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

THAT

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

charlie has a mouse is his pocket

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I know your feel, bro.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

To be clear

I did grad school myself. I took no pleasure in making the observation.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he turns into a solid reliever

so when he comes in, we can say “XXXXXX is now entering the court of Judge Judy” because, really, who doesn’t like a good Judge Judy joke?

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Jew?

Anti-Semite

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 5, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he turns into a relieving solder, so we can make a connection with him

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in....

The Angels are not going to sign Madson. I say we swoop in and offer him a one year contract! Yay!!!!! No Cordero!!!!!!

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Nah, they're just playing hard to get

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

/kinda rapey'd

Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This was very well done. Good work, Chuckles.

One small quibble. I’d guess that either Brackman, Judy, or both could very well log significant MLB innings this year.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

I think Judy has a chance.

His numbers are strong. His fastball Can hit the mid-90s and has a lot of movement. His slider moves well, too, and has enough life to be a strikeout pitch. Judy has a closer mentality, but likely is more of a middle man or setup guy.

I’d like to see fewer walks and more groundballs, but he’s worthy of the waiver claim.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ha! When I started writing this, there were no other posts.

I had a counseling session to do, came back, finished writing and posted. Then I saw all the craziness on here. Now I feel like the suit and tie guy at a bar-b-que.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Or a FordhamRam at a RR Burger Tour stop

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

your normal or my normal?

And at this point, you’re one of about 5 RRs that haven’t been to my house I think.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

SAD WEEZ IS SAD

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Aren't you in Turkmenistan or some shit?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Basically

but with nicer weather and prettier girls and legalized marijuana

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sheeeeeeit

Screw you coming to my house, I wanna come to your house!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

An American Tale: jch Goes West

Just puttin it out there: RR invasion of Petco Park? SD is pretty great. I went to a bar last night that has goldfish races. My little guy (I named him Kim Jong-Un) made it to the final four, but lost to Man Purse.

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I was actually looking at that.

Reds go to Petco the week before my birthday, IIRC. I think I’ll make a Petco/Dodger trip that time.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Where do you live?

come on down. I’ll buy you a burrito and a Tecate

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Saint Louis.

YOU come on down. I’ll buy you a pizza and a Schlafly.

/I think San Diego wins.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

behind enemy lines!

I drove thru there this summer actually. My grandparents live in KC too.

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 6, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

You always run the risk of sleeveless shirts in the summer though

Sun’s out, guns out.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

/t-shirts and shorts year round'd

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 5, 2012 2:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   1 recs

You guys wear peacoats in OH?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm the peacoatinest peacoater who ever peacoted

(Or that’s what my wife brought home when I told her I needed a new coat)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I got a peacoat from your wife's store!

Midnight Black Friday’d

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 7, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I got one for Christmas!

#peacoatmafia

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 5, 2012 2:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I got a real Navy peacoat from the military surplus store

a couple years ago. It is by far the warmest coat I’ve ever owned. It must weigh close to five pounds.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You seem funny.

I think you’re my favorite, in a perfectly platonic way.

"After you said Britta was right, everything sounded like one big foghorn." -Jeff Winger, Community.

by UDFlyers1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

a jeff winger quote & you actually think i'm funny?

if i weren’t convinced you are someone else’s alter account, you’d be my favorite too!

by 'tHan on Jan 5, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I got one of those from my uncle

It even has a cool-ass anchor patch on the left arm. It’s too big for me though.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I still have my field jacket from the AF for just that reason

I don’t know what the secret is but it’s easily the warmest coat I’ve ever owned.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

My huge gut is forcing me to give my Navy peacoat away to my nephew

I tried it on a few weeks ago, and realized I will never, ever fit into that thing again – it is made for someone 160 lbs, and I am around 240. Since my daughters will never be tall enough, it is going to my nephew.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

My roommates cricized me because I wore shorts and a hoodie to go see a movie.

It was 35 degrees outside. I had a longsleeve shirt on.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

seems reasonable to me

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

true statement

on all accounts

and it’s really fun to rapid fire jch jr with trivia questions

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 7, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

#burn

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

looks like he gets hit a lot

9.9 H/9, giving a 1.388 WHIP despite the low walks.

So, he pounds the zone and either strikes you out or you hit a single?

Sounds like he’s one cutter away from Mariano Rivera. /unrealisticoptimism’d

But seriously, a good cutter might really turn the corner for him.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That was his line from just 2010

His career line is a much more acceptable 7.6 H/9 and a 1.195 WHIP.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

So he's getting worse as he gets more experience?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

His K rate has maintained, but his hit rate was high-ish in 2010 and his walk rate was high-ish in 2011. The thing with relievers though is that we are talking about 50 inning increments each season. Which is kinda the fun part, you know?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

also, the previous years were at lower levels.

I was looking for the most MLB-like-ish.

He definitely can find the zone, which is the hardest part. I say, give him a killer cutter or change, and Wham. Boy Named Judy.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Jan 5, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Jared Burton had that cutter...

is Burtie in Minnesota now?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm having trouble finding career WAR graphs on FanGraphs

I feel like I used to be able to find them in the “compare players” section. Now all I can find is avg, obp, slg, k%, bb%, k/bb, iso, babip and woba. Am I mistaken that WAR graphs used to be readily available?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

+1

For the Burger Meister Meister Burger reference.

by sledridge on Jan 5, 2012 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

for those of you that are aware of my #PoopLog,

it was suggested to me that i create some #ProPoopTips to share with everyone on the Twitters. if you want, you can follow me, but you can also just search for #ProPoopTip to what I, and others, are saying about what you need to know in order to have a successful poop. or share them on here with the rest of the class if you want.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

Rock back and forth a little mid-poop, it helps to get things going when you're stuck in a rut

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It is one of my main strategies.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you do about the hangars?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If you are pooping out hangars, you need to stop eating in your wardrobe

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

wiggle wiggle wigglewiggle wiggle yeah!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiggling didn't work, I just waited till it dropped

I wasn’t about to have that wiggle free and see it going flying somewhere

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you're not suppose to get off the seat.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?

by boobs on Jan 5, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Looks like my son is due for a haircut

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet Jesus. That woman is the same age as I am and has 7 biological children?

My uterus hurts just thinking about it. No kids, please.

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Jan 5, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I have met someone who was 32 years old and had given birth to nine children

Guess how many she had custody of?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

0

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell him what he's won, Bob!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet!!!

What’s the number to the black market? I’ve got some goods to sell

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Black market?

That’s racist.

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand

by saboscork on Jan 5, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

4 years old, 21 pounds

Jesus Christ. It is a testament to the basic decency of society that this woman will be treated far more humanely than she treated that child.

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps not

If word of what she did gets around her prison facility, there might be some prison justice dispensed.

"This is the St. Louis Cardinals we're talking about. They suck. Screw them. With a shovel. The sharp metal end. And then set them on fire." - crolfer

by rorschach1979 on Jan 5, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure left arm weighs about 21 pounds

and i’m right handed.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Jan 5, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

my 6-month old weighs 19 pounds

he’s 4 pounds bigger than his twin sister, but still, 4 years old, 21 pounds!!! that’s something straight out of Somalia!

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Jan 5, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

"That wasn't piss bitch, now get dressed and get out."

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The year's first Top Prospects list has been released.

Scout.com’s Top 100 MLB Prospects

Mesoraco is 12th, Hamilton is 70th. Meso was the 2nd highest rated catcher behind Jesus Montero, who we all know isn’t really a catcher. Hamilton is the 8th highest SS.

Of guys we traded, Grandal is 91 and Yonder is 98. None of the other players made the list. That seems low for both of those guys, but if their assessment is correct, the Reds did an amazingly good deal for Latos.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, they are Frankie Piliere's

Which, like Keith Law and some others, are kinda dumb because it’s one guy’s opinion. That’s what I like about Project Prospect and BA. Those lists are both a big collaborative effort.

Just like the RR CPR!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Cozart must have juuuuuuuuuuust missed it

/piling on

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 5, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

teh Fay

was thinking the Reds might sign Jack Wilson. Then he realized Janish could hit as well, and cost a lot less. He thinks Janish is too skinny to play every day, and would be better as a part-time player.

Fay thinks the Reds might not get around to signing a backup SS. I still think the Reds are going to get a Theriot type. Or how about Slo-Cab? He’s available, isn’t he?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

Slo-Cab, CoCo, Gomes and Arthur Rhodes are all free agents.

I say we sign ‘em all. The only 2010 contributor we can’t get back is Travis Wood. Hell, Jim Edmonds is still alive, isn’t he?

by ams78 on Jan 5, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

It was a bucket of balls that we traded CDick for that taught Jay how to hit.

A talking bucket of balls.

by thevole on Jan 5, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just imagine what it could teach Jay if it was a talking can of vegetables

He’d be humping fridges in no time!

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are giving Edmonds to much credit for his questionable manhood.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 6, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't remember?

Back when Edmonds was traded to us, Jay was in the middle of a pretty terrible slump. He started to bust out of it in August, and the local media started attributing his success to Edmonds. Thom was one of the worst offenders, if I remember right.

by DerekH91 on Jan 5, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

They really did give credit to Edmonds for helping Jay out of his slump. I can’t be the only one who remembers this

by DerekH91 on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember...

and you know, i don’t doubt it…no one ever came right out and said it, but i think something happened with edmonds here, maybe about the injury he suffered…whatever, i was disappointed with the way all that worked out, as it seemed like there was some bad blood developed…whatever, i always thought edmonds was right on the verge, for most of his career, of being a truly great player…

by alcory11 on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

sitting here with a...well, never mind...

i kind of liked the judy pickup, first because there’s no way on earth to not like a player named josh judy…second, because his numbers seem to show he’s got something going for him on the mound…and third, because there’s little doubt that all the stuff this author points out about relievers is true at least 99% of the time, so while there’s probably no reason to think that judy will bring a big positive to the bullpen, there’s also no reason to think he will somehow become a big negative, either…

oh, and by the way…just in jest, you understand…the other day someone, i didn’t take notice of who, pointed out some things about a post i made…fair deal, for sure…but it leads me to say here, after reading through just about the whole comment section on this article, that in whatever ways i might lack in ability to contribute, i am in awe of the overall manner in which so many here have spent so much time posting in an entirely unenlightening and certainly confusing if not totally incomprehensible fashion…thank you…i think…

by alcory11 on Jan 5, 2012 7:35 PM EST reply actions  

Well done sir

I will steal the “selecting a kickball team” vs. “staffing a pirate ship” and everyone will think I am clever.

@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

from RLN

THT is predicting that the Reds will win 93 games, the most in MLB.

(Actual forecasts behind a paywall, I think. And not really expected to be accurate this early in the year. But nice to think about.)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

Probably one of the strike shortened seasons

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Projections always miss at the extremes

some team ( or actually a few) will always fail to win 66 games and as a result of the unforeseen level of suckage some others will always win 95.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 6, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

And Dave Duncan has stepped down.

So the downfall of the cards continues

by bringbackthemayor on Jan 5, 2012 9:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He's taking a leave of absence

His wife has a brain tumor.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a shame

Honestly. I think he’s the only thing about the Cardinals I didn’t hate.

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by BK on Jan 5, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I really didn't like him either. He's just as much of a hothead as LaRussa.

But there’s no way someone should have to leave because of that, and before they want to. I wish he and his wife the best, and hope she is fully healed…..even if it means he comes back.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

geez.

That’s really sad. Best of luck, thoughts, etc. to Los Duncans.

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by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love nothing more for the Cardinals to finish 3rd or lower in the division

Their would be a mutiny amongst the owners.

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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW sorry about his wife

She’s had this awhile, no?

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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

She had surgery in August

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

like boob surgery or what

You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?

by boobs on Jan 6, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Surgery to try to remove a brain tumor

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Jan 6, 2012 7:32 AM EST up reply actions  

so not boob surgery?

You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?

by boobs on Jan 7, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

No, honey, no boob surgery.

Maybe next time.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Jan 7, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

oh ok, I hope so.

Thanks!

You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?

by boobs on Jan 7, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

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