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2012 Community Prospect Rankings: Wolfgang Amadeus Cozart writes himself into the #2 spot


In a remarkably close vote, Zack Cozart edged Billy Hamilton by 10 votes in the Home Depot Floor vs. Ceiling Bowl to earn the #2 spot on our list. Perhaps we should start calling him Billy "Salieri" Hamilton.

Cozart may lack the elite tools and superstar ceiling of most top prospects, but a major league ready player who is a safe bet to be at least an average MLB shortstop is quite valuable, and not so easy to find. Just ask the Reds. And about 15 other teams. Hopefully The Coz can have a solid debut performance and put the tedious shortstop discussions around here to bed.

It would seem, based on voting trends from the Iowa caucuses, that the vote for the #3 spot is going to come down to Billy Hamilton and Daniel Corcino. Both have their merits, but in case you aren't enamored by either player, and in the name of abundant choice, we have added 2 new players to the list. DiDi Gregorius and Juan Carlos Sulbaran make their first appearances on the poll, and they will be the last players to be added for a while. If you want someone else, get over it. Or join the Libertarian party.

VOTE!

Star-divide

Daniel Corcino, RHP, 21, BA-#4
(Dayton) 3.42 ERA, 139.1 IP, 156 K, 34 BB, 1.163 WHIP

Pros: Excellent fastball-slider combo, elite strikeout numbers, and excellent control, especially for a young pitcher
Cons: Slightly undersized (5'11", 165), needs to prove durability by throwing over 150 innings

Todd Frazier, UT, 26, BA-#7
(Louisville) .260/.340/.467/.807, 15 HR, 46 RBI
(Cincinnati) .232/.289/.437/.726, 6 HR, 15 RBI

Pros: Shown an ability to hit for power, lots of XBH too. Versatile on defense. Good clubhouse guy. Cool nickname and at-bat music.
Cons: Doesn't really have a set position, and isn't above average anywhere. Plate discipline is suspect.

Mariekson "DiDi" Gregorius, SS, 21, BA-#6
(Bakersfield) .303/.333/.457/.790, 5 HR, 28 RBI
(Carolina) .270/.312/.392/.704, 2 HR, 16 RBI

Pros: Excellent athlete, has the tools to be a well above average defensive SS. Very good contact skills.
Cons: Very aggressive plate approach, little in-game power so far. Still young, but needs his athleticism to translate into offensive numbers.

Billy Hamilton, SS/2B, 21, BA-#2
(Dayton) .278/.340/.360/.700, 3 HR, 50 RBI, 103 SB

Pros: Speed. Switch hitter. Speed. Excellent middle infield range. Speed--Many think he's the fastest player in baseball.
Cons: Almost zero power, strikes out too much for a guy with no power, and needs refinement defensively.

Yorman Rodriguez, OF, 19, BA-UR
(Dayton) .254/.318/.393/.711, 7 HR, 40 RBI

Pros: Tool shed--Chance for above average power, speed, contact skills, and defense.
Cons: Durability--has only played 122 games total the last 2 seasons. Very raw both at the plate and in the field. Very aggressive plate approach.

Neftali Soto, 1B, 23, BA-#8
(Carolina) .272/.329/.575/.904, 30 HR, 76 RBI
(Louisville) .412/.444/.588/1.032, 1 HR, 4 RBI

Pros: Breakout season last year, finally showing the bat to profile at 1B. More raw power than anyone in the system not named Juan Francisco. Still relatively young given his level.
Cons: Strikes out a lot, doesn't walk a lot. Didn't get going until about July last season. Can he sustain that production for a whole year?

J.C. Sulbaran, RHP, 22, BA-#9
(Bakersfield) 4.60 ERA, 137 IP, 155 K, 50 BB, 1.39 WHIP

Pros: Very solid 3-pitch repertoire, with an above average FB and a solid CH and CU. Above average stuff leads to high Ks, and he significantly improved on his previously spotty control in 2011.
Cons: Some question about his unorthodox mechanics remain, although he smoothed them out in 2011. Somewhat of an injury history. Mainly, he needs to repeat his strong season in AA in 2012.

Robert Stephenson, RHP, 18, BA-#5
No Professional Stats

Pros: Good size, outstanding velocity (has hit 97), good control, and a potential plus curveball. Supposedly has a very good makeup.
Cons: As a high school pitcher with no pro experience, he's about as risky of a prospect as there is. Can he avoid injury, develop his secondary pitches, and consistently get professional hitters out?

Poll
Who is the Reds #3 Prospect?
Daniel Corcino
40 votes
Todd Frazier
22 votes
DiDi Gregorius
3 votes
Billy Hamilton
151 votes
Yorman Rodriguez
6 votes
Neftali Soto
13 votes
Juan Carlos Sulbaran
0 votes
Robert Stephenson
16 votes

251 votes | Poll has closed

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Still shaking my head at Cozart being #2.

I mean I think he is a good player, but with some of the ceilings that prospects have in this system he shouldn’t be in the top 3-4. Shame.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

I think the RR prospect rankings have proved in the past

that we as a group value big league readiness over raw potential. And to Cozart’s credit, he just OPS’d .800+ in AAA as an above average defensive SS. There’s a good bit of upside in that, as well.

Personally, I could rank #2-#10 in just about any order. I voted Corcino, but I wouldn’t be upset if he ends up at 6 or 7.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I had it as Hamilton then Corcino.

I would have ranked Cozart as #5. Cozart had a nice showing in his small sample at the ML level. My main concern is that his 2011 was a lot of luck. He hasn’t ever shown the best OBP skills and has gotten by on above average power for a short stop.

I just feel he is only this high because he will be the starter in 2012. He is going to be the starter, because we can’t afford to bring in anyone better or we’ll just get stuck playing Janish again. Without a starting spot he would probably be getting the Todd Frazier treatment in the prospect standings. Come to think of it, I might actually put Frazier higher in my own standings.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

He has well above average power for a shortstop.

His ISOp has been above .150 the last 2 seasons, and .150 is considered average, period. MLB shortstops had an ISOp of .117 in 2011.

And no, he doesn’t have the best OBP skills, but again, the batting line for MLB shorstops in 2011 was .263/.317/.380. Combined with his solidly above average defense, it won’t be that difficult for him to be an above average MLB SS in 2012.

I agree that he’s getting a lot of love because we desperately need a passable SS and he is hopefully filling that need. But comparing him to Frazier doesn’t make sense because he’s a true SS, whereas Todd is either a 3B or LF, neither of which is as valuable, starting spot or no.

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I said above average power, didn't I?

I think that Frazier’s bat is good enough that he should be higher than Cozart. I understand the positional adjustment, but I think if Frazier is given the chance he is a more productive player. But, I have always thought Frazier should get a shot over Francisco. Basically, we are arguing semantics on who we think is better. I go for higher ceiling over floor.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I go maybe 50/50 on ceiling vs. floor

and I agree wtih you – if Frazier were given as much playing time as Cozart, i think Frazier would be as good or maybe better than Cozart as well.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 5, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I see the argument for Frazier over Cozart

And FWIW, I put both Corcino and Hamilton above Wolfgang.

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Youre rankings are solid

Let’s make the RR prospect ratings more diverse starting today. BHam is off to a strong start!

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with this

I remember Valaika being a huge over-rank last year and LeCure the same thing the last two years. This is a pretty cautious group.

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by BK on Jan 5, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

When your team spends *years* hyping prospects who turn out

like Homer Bailey, Ryan Wagner, Chris Denorfia, Chris Gruler, Ty Howington, Rob Bell…etc etc etc. It is understandable that the fans are cautious about these far off guys who have “so much potential.”

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 5, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Rob Bell would have been great if he did less coke

and Denorfia actually panned out, we just gave up on him.

He’s much better than Stubbs will ever be.

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 7, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You joking?

Coming up to Denorfia’s age 32 season, and now that he’s found his way to the ass-tastic Padres roster, he’s managed to play entire half-seasons.

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by kcgard2 on Jan 7, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't say he wasn't fragile

but he’s producing, and if Stubbs turns out to be a healthier Denorfia, then we’ve actually got something

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 8, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The strangeness of Denorfia aside,

I couldn’t find anything about Rob Bell and cocaine.

I did find something about Bell experiencing Vottonian anxiety attacks that ultimately derailed his career as much as a flat fastball did. But nothing about drugs. Was my cursory search too cursory?

"You said 'walks' twice."
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by Cy Schourek on Jan 9, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I knew a flight attendant on the Reds charter that partied with Rob

she supplied Rob

I wish I was making this shit up

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 9, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I never understood the Valaika love.

I think there were some people worrying about Phillips and thought he would be the successor. That truly scared me.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think that's it

Valaika was a decent prospect for awhile. And he had a pretty good year in 2010. People were probably assuming he’d improve, not get worse.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

He mainly had a lucky year in 2010

He still hit for no power and never walked….while playing meh defense. He and Negron were both hugely overrated in the rankings last year.

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

you and your farmers only cohorts

are the ones who got people het up over Negron. We didn’t know him from Adam (Rosales?) until youse guys started talking about how he was ahead of Cozart on the SS depth chart.

I think a lot of people just vote for familiar names, and that’s mostly guys closer to the big leagues.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said he was better than Cozart.

I said that based on the org’s actions, it seems they may have preferred him. If you’ll kindly refer back to last year’s CPRs, you’ll find I was pretty vocal about Negron not being worthy of a top-20 ranking.

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

he had that hot AFL that got people excited.

Unforunately, those were the best 40 PAs of his career.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

He did have a good AFL.

AFL hitting stats are often inflated, though. Young Bubba Crosby hit .346 / .395 / .510 for the Peoria Javelinas (his age 23 season).

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

How would you know about that?

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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

There

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 7, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who wasn't a disappointment.

GODDAMMIT STOP POSTING BEFORE I HIT THE BUTTON

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 7, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I never understood the rankings of those 2.

Cozart is a little high for me, but I understand it at least. I’d have had him 5th, like someone else mentioned, but he does look like a league (maybe a bit above) average SS. Stephenson and Corcino and Mesoraco and Hamilton can all still be well above average, but this is a ceiling vs. floor argument.

by jsl413 on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

#CaucasianSSLove

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

See, and here I was thinking the opposite.

I can not figure out else what Cozart needs to do to prove he is the real deal heading into his prime years right now. I think we would be less pessimistic if he were Dominican.

by Eastwindquinn on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree with this and do not understand it:
I think we would be less pessimistic if he were Dominican.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It's either racist or homophobic.

I can never tell the difference.

EVERYTHING IS GAYCISM

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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 7, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I would consider him more of a wall.

Paul Janish is the floor in the Votto Window.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you hiding behind the shirts?

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Votto's shirts are too expensive and classy for him to steal.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Votto...shirtless...

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I find your dick offensive

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by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

So do your moms

Now THAT’S a #stalejoke

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So does Brendan's mom is always fresh though

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

"So does Brendan's mom" is always fresh though

is how I should have punctuated that.

Btw, I don’t even know which one of you is Brendan.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Jan 5, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be Brendanukkah

but we like to call him Brenda.

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by UDFlyers1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly!

Nah, I never could get the original to work on the mobile site.

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by UDFlyers1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just joshing, man!

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by UDFlyers1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, yes, duh! I did know that, I think.

I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.

by darthmom on Jan 5, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Bylaws violation?

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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I had a terrible dream last night.

The Reds resigned Corero to a 4 year $40,000,000 contract. I was so scared.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

you're so young

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 5, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

(terrible joke deleted)

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by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny,

I usually dream about pussy.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

For what it's worth, here is how

Baseball America ranked the Reds’ Top 10 before and after the Latos and Marshall trades:

BEFORE
1. Devin Mesoraco
2. Billy Hamilton
3. Yonder Alonso
4. Yasmani Grandal
5. Zack Cozart
6. Daniel Corcino
7. Robert Stephenson
8. DiDi Gregorius
9. Todd Frazier
10. Brad Boxberger

AFTER
1. Devin Mesoraco
2. Billy Hamilton
3. Zack Cozart
4. Daniel Corcino
5. Robert Stephenson
6. DiDi Gregorius
7. Todd Frazier
8. Neftali Soto
9. JC Sulbaran
10. Ryan LaMarre

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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM EST reply actions  

the Before list looks loaded.

the After list…not so much.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 5, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it still looks pretty good.

After Mesoraco, Cozar, and Frazier graduate from the list it will look pretty craptastic. That is, unless Hamilton, Yorman, Corcino, and Stephenson really take off this year. Truly we have so many high ceiling guys, that if a few have good season it could make the list look very strong.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

which essentially means

After the first game of the MLB season, the list will look pretty craptastic.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 5, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

and wow

Louisville is going to be terrible this year. Maybe that’s why they let Rick Sweet go.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 5, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

They figure if they have to get rid of Dusty

They didn’t want to bring up the losing manager in Louisville

by Nasty N8 on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

they'll have Frazier and Janish

Maybe Chapman!

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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

and the Reds have some decent early picks this year, IIRC.

It’s really too early to think about the 2013 prospect list. Which I don’t think anyone disagrees on.

"You said 'walks' twice."
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by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't disagree!

As of right now, the Reds have #14 and #47. If CoCo signs elsewhere they’ll have another one in the 50-70 range, I think.

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

it'll be top 50

he would have been higher than Ramon

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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

well

Just imagine that Latos is still a prospect. Since, you know, he’s younger than Alonso.

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by Slyde on Jan 5, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point slyde

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You wanna be outraged? Fine. Here.

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by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe the term is #StaleJoke

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by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the point is that there aren't child safety covers on the outlet

Clearly the baby is looking at the outlet and planning on sticking keys or a paperclip in their soon.

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by Slyde on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

No

“Soon” is slang (that I just made up) for the holes in an outlet.

#dodgedbullet

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by Slyde on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Sweet Little Pole Dancer

Gonna grow to be a success!!!

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 6, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea why BA is so high on Didi

I don’t get the prospect love for that guy.

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by kcgard2 on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is mostly because of his defense.

The guy doesn’t strike out a whole bunch either.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He's admittedly a fantastic athlete.

Fast, strong arm, makes good contact. He just hasn’t seen his tools manifest into any offensive value yet. Even if they don’t, he’ll be a good backup SS or marginal starter. My guess is that, just like w/ Hamilton, Baseball America is betting that they will eventually. He is still quite young, after all.

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted Frazier this time.

I knew Hamilton was going to win, so I voted Frazier just because he deserves at least a couple voted.

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by sexsalad on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

er, votes

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by sexsalad on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Frazier was very personable at Redsfest

thats worth a couple votes.

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

/RossPerot'd

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by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

EMO vote

you voted to lose

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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

this isnt the GIF thread, farney. fool!

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha

Still learning the iPhone?

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

holy shit!

a Farney sighting!

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard it was anarchy, today.

So I had to show up!

/whips cape in front of face

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

NO MORE! THE POWER OF GOOD IS HERE!!!!!

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by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

this isnt the GIF thread, either

Scotty, beam us up a TGIF thread. the natives are getting restless!!!!

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take this under advisement.

Perhaps I’ve give the tGIF green light for tomorrow’s RIWIAW.

by FordhamRam on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Joey Ramone always gets a rec from me

RIP

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

also, Joey Ramone looks way too much like Janis Joplin

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If only they'd gotten the life rights

Jenna Maroney is Janis Joplin! Liz Lemon is Joey Ramone!

(I guess really more the lovechild of Liz and Frank is Joey Ramone)

by Brendanukkah on Jan 5, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Jackie Jormp Jomp!

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was Howard Stern at first.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Andrew Brackman qualifies

for this list, correct? I wonder where he fits.

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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

he gets the honorary 25th slot in the prospect ratings

the Juan Duran.

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, we gotta figure that out. I just realized yesterday he still counts as a prospect.

It’s very rare for a team to sign a guy as a FA who still both qualifies and might actually make the list.

/Chapman’d

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by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Volquez'd

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we got Volquez in a trade,

but I am not sure whom we gave up.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

must not have been very good

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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

it was D-Train, right?

Before we signed him to that big extension?

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by bbjones on Jan 6, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

any way we can get the 2009 and 2010 prospect ratings linked in RH column?

or the LH column.

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions  

So, what is Cozart's ultimate ceiling?

JJ Hardy with less power?

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

I guess that's true. I forgot Hardy did that.

I actually just forgot how much power he had, which is dumb, because he was my best fantasy pickup last year.

by jsl413 on Jan 5, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Your fantasy team, you say?

Please, tell me more!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

snark attack!

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by UDFlyers1 on Jan 5, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was agreeing with you.

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by jsl413 on Jan 5, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I would take that

if he could sniff 20 homers with a .250/.330/.450 line, I’d be pretty pumped.

Fun fact: Cozart put up 0.7 fWAR in his 11 games last year. That projects to over 10 fWAR over the course of a season! SSS are fun!!

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll never walk that much.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, you're probably right...

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Though, a .450 slugging would be pretty sweet.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that's certainly attainable

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully, he can hit better than .250 though

He doesn’t strike out that much and has solid power, so he can hopefully sustain a .270-.280 average or so.

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by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully, but I'd bet on the .250.

If we can get a .750 OPS out of him that would be fantastic.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Votto Window optimism.

I like it.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 5, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I'd bet the under on .275

he hit in the .300s last year in AAA, but had a pretty high BABIP, especially looking at his career.

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by UncleWeez on Jan 5, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

250 to 275 with some slg will do very nicely

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by obc2 on Jan 5, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

/Santo'd

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by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

From BA:

Cincinnati Reds
Signed: RHP Michael Griffin (re-signed), C Brian Esposito, C Brian Peacock, 2B P.J. Phillips
Released: OF Josh Garton
Traded: RHP Brad Boxberger, RHP Edinson Volquez, C Yasmani Grandal and 1B Yonder Alonso to Padres for RHP Mat Latos
Traded: LHP Travis Wood, 2B Ronald Torreyes and OF Dave Sappelt to Cubs for LHP Sean Marshall

The Angels made P.J. Phillips a second-round pick in ’05, but he never advanced past the Cal League and batted .254/.296/.389 in three seasons there. Older brother Brandon Phillips is slated to earn $12 million for Cincinnati in his final year under contract.

Erstwhile outfielder Michael Griffin, a 14th-round pick from Baylor in ’05, has worked only sporadically as a pitcher, the role for which the Reds re-signed him. He appeared in three games as a reliever for Triple-A Louisville last year.
Signing catchers Brian Esposito and Brian Peacock will help the organization cover for innings lost by the trade of Yasmani Grandal’s and Devin Mesoraco’s promotion to the big leagues.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 6, 2012 2:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Awesome - Thanks, TT!

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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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