2012 Community Prospect Rankings: Snacks on Snacks on Snacks - Devin Mesoraco is your #1 prospect
by BK on Jan 4, 2012 8:01 AM EST
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With a staggering 72% of the vote, Devin "Snacks" Mesoraco is the number 1 prospect for our list. It's well deserved, I'd say. He was the best player in the organization last year, and looks to be the catcher of the future for the big league club, starting as early as next season.
In my opinion, the list gets pretty murky from here on out. In years past, we've had a lot of guys to go in a pretty logical progression, but after Mes, the guys on this year's list could be ranked in almost any order. This is likely due to the "closer to the big leagues" guys getting traded, leaving the "still a few years away with oodles of potential" guys at the top. WIth that in mind, we're adding two more names to this list.
Vote early, vote often. Poll stays open until 10 tonight.
Daniel Corcino, RHP, 21, BA-#4
(Dayton) 3.42 ERA, 139.1 IP, 156 K, 34 BB, 1.163 WHIP
Pros: Excellent fastball-slider combo, elite strikeout numbers, and excellent control, especially for a young pitcher
Cons: Slightly undersized (5'11", 165), needs to prove durability by throwing over 150 innings
Zack Cozart, SS, 26, BA-#3
(Louisville) .310/.357/.467/.825, 7 HR, 32 RBI
(Cincinnati) .324/.324/.486/.811, 2 HR, 3 RBI
Pros: Polished, above average defense at SS. Above average power for the position. Good contact skills.
Cons: Below average plate discipline and walk rate. Already 26, has he peaked?
Todd Frazier, UT, 26, BA-#7
(Louisville) .260/.340/.467/.807, 15 HR, 46 RBI
(Cincinnati) .232/.289/.437/.726, 6 HR, 15 RBI
Pros: Shown an ability to hit for power, lots of XBH too. Versatile on defense. Good clubhouse guy. Cool nickname and at-bat music.
Cons: Doesn't really have a set position, and isn't above average anywhere. Plate discipline is suspect.
Billy Hamilton, SS/2B, 21, BA-#2
(Dayton) .278/.340/.360/.700, 3 HR, 50 RBI, 103 SB
Pros: Speed. Switch hitter. Speed. Excellent middle infield range. Speed--Many think he's the fastest player in baseball.
Cons: Almost zero power, strikes out too much for a guy with no power, and needs refinement defensively.
Neftali Soto, 1B, 23, BA-#8
(Carolina) .272/.329/.575/.904, 30 HR, 76 RBI
(Louisville) .412/.444/.588/1.032, 1 HR, 4 RBI
Pros: Breakout season last year, finally showing the bat to profile at 1B. More raw power than anyone in the system not named Juan Francisco. Still relatively young given his level.
Cons: Strikes out a lot, doesn't walk a lot. Didn't get going until about July last season. Can he sustain that production for a whole year?
Yorman Rodriguez, OF, 19, BA-UR
(Dayton) .254/.318/.393/.711, 7 HR, 40 RBI
Pros: Tool shed--Chance for above average power, speed, contact skills, and defense.
Cons: Durability--has only played 122 games total the last 2 seasons. Very raw both at the plate and in the field. Very aggressive plate approach.
Robert Stephenson, RHP, 18, BA-#5
No Professional Stats
Pros: Good size, outstanding velocity (has hit 97), good control, and a potential plus curveball. Supposedly has a very good makeup.
Cons: As a high school pitcher with no pro experience, he's about as risky of a prospect as there is. Can he avoid injury, develop his secondary pitches, and consistently get professional hitters out?
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The Golem!
This is difficult. I thought about this one all day yesterday, and I’m going with Corcino. It came down to him or Billy Quicks, and honestly I just flipped a coin between them. I’d like to see more power and better contact from Quicks, but I’d also like to see more than one (albeit great) season in full-season ball from Corcino.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 8:06 AM EST reply actions
I went with Corcino too. He has a higher ceiling than most others on the list, and is also a safer bet to reach it than guys like Hamilton or Yorman
But based on yesterday it seems like the battle will be between Hamilton and Cozart, which is a really interesting microcosm of the ‘floor vs. ceiling’ debate about prospects.
Hamilton clearly has a much higher ceiling and much more exciting tools, but there’s a very real chance he never does anything in the bigs, whereas Coz is a pretty safe bet to be at least an average MLB shorstop this season.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I went with Cozart because even a league-average SS is hard to find
Seems early to me to vote for Corcino since he’s just finished low-A and is a little fella (albeit one with great stuff and numbers).
by ken on Jan 4, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
My logic:
We’d all be thrilled if Billy puts up a .310/.357/.467/.825 in Louisville in a couple of years. And Zacky just did.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Well said.
I, too, voted for Cozart. While it’s a somewhat safe pick, I think Cozart can be at least a solid major league shortstop for several years.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 4, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'd wager BHam makes his MLB debut at a younger age than zach did
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by obc2 on Jan 4, 2012 9:42 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agree
Voted Corcino because he’s the top pitching prospect in the organization IMO, and the hitting prospects all still have a bunch of questions. Hamilton is too raw for me to vote in the top 3.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
young high ceiling pitchers
are free of question ?
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
No, obviously
but with no clear standout offensive players, I took the more proven of the two standout pitchers.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
#splained
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
i also voted for corcino
i thought it was a fairly obvious pick.
by 'tHan on Jan 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
billy hamilton was #2 last year
Then went and stole 103 bases, as a SS with incredible range.
Corcino had a nice season. But so did John roper and mo Sanford back in the day…..
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by obc2 on Jan 4, 2012 9:41 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
You should have waited for my instructions!
I don’t like this new independent streak you are showing.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
This was why I didn't vote for Corcino.
Anyone can have one great season. I’d love to put him at #1 or #2 if he repeats this at AA (is that Carolina still? Or did they move? I still want to say Chatanooga :-( ), but I’m hesitant to do that now.
I chose Cozart. Billy is still too projectable for me, and nobody else has OBP. I’m not thrilled with this, though.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Fair enough
In my mind, Billy has yet to have a great season, and Coz has only really had one too. (2009 was good, not great)
I’m ok with any of the 3, though. Yorman has way too many issues for me to consider him yet.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 4, 2012 9:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am probably putting too much stock in Billy's second half and OBP skills.
He looks like a great top-of-the-lineup 2B of the future, who brings HAVOC as a bonus.
word.
Florida Marlins era Luis Castillo would be the shiz.
Although I still hold out hope he figures out SS.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I think he will stick at ss
If ecksteins arm played there Billy’s certainly can
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by obc2 on Jan 4, 2012 10:47 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He did have a scholarship to Miss St to be a WR.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 4, 2012 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
the "Kentucky of the SEC West"
is still a national Top 30 program.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
eh.....I don't know about that
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Same here
There were a top 30 program for a while, but now they are right now.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
"no way" turned into "now", not sure how my brain managed that
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I'm going to become rich and famous one day when I invent a way to smack people via TCP/IP
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Well, time to tap into the power of IPv6
I’m assuming they added bitchslapping address bytes, right?
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 4, 2012 12:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
mushroom stamp'd
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I think SEC speed
is what most of that football players take in their free time!
adderall'd
or red sudafed’d
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling that we will have Frazier as an option for a long, long time.
Unless Mads votes about 200 times today.
It’s tough to pull the trigger on this one. It’s either Cozart or one of the high-ceiling, long-way-off guys. None has a higher ceiling than Yorman. I guess he’s it.
But I love that Cozart gets a chance to play for a year or two with the other three infielders. It gives him a chance to establish himself and be ready to “captain” the infield when the next wave comes in.
by poojols on Jan 4, 2012 8:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Frazier's weird.
He’s been a top prospect every year. I feel like he can easily put up Heisey numbers this year. But he just isn’t sexy, for whatever reason.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Not sexy? Pshaw.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 4, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Sgt. Carter would really like to know where his lunch is
by Brendanukkah on Jan 4, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
At Rock Hudson's house.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 4, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he isn't sexy at all
he is a low ceiling high floor guy.
He will probably be an adequate player, but never anything special.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Low ceiling high floor guys are just as important to an organization as the exciting high ceiling prospects.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
never said they weren't
you can’t have a team filled with stars.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
You mean Todd Frazier's debut didn' t have the fanfare of Homer Bailey and Aroldis Chapman?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
People slobber over Hamilton and Yorman
yet Frazier could help the big club guaranteed, and no one cares.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I like Frazier
I think he will be important to the 2012 Reds, with question marks on the left side of the infield and in left field.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
so you're saying you wouldn't do him?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Snacks City bitch! Snacks Snacks City bitch!
I voted Yorman, and I consider it a vote for Hope (said in my most sincere Iowa Caucus bullshit voice.)
I voted Yorman as the #2 prospect, and if he reaches his potential, I think he’s completely good enough to warrant that ranking…and for the Reds of the future to ever be worth a damn, he needs to be that good. So maybe my rationale isn’t completely there, but my hopeyness is.
I also think this is his big-time, breakout year, and he could motor his way into some solid AA success.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 8:57 AM EST reply actions
plus one (it doesn't seem so lazy that way, right?)
Corcino’s ceiling is Cueto. Yorman’s is somewhere between Eric Davis and Hank Aaron.
by poojols on Jan 4, 2012 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
"Yorman’s ceiling is somewhere between Eric Davis and Hank Aaron."
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
didn't The Dusty play with Hank Aaron?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Yorman's gonna be 19 almost all of next season
Pushing him to AA would be Bryce Harper levels of aggressiveness.
Not saying it won’t happen, but I’d think he’d need to abdolutely be destroying A+ for that to happen.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 4, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That said, 19 is a legit prospect age and he only has a couple more years before I give up on him!
He needs to start showing signs of consistency and health. Though I’d have to imagine being coached and dedicating one’s life to baseball from age 16 would make for a promising future. Does he have to go to high school?
I had a dream last night that the Reds won 7-2.
They got K’ed 14 times by Andy Benes, but they hit 3 HRs as a team.
I was REAL pissed when I woke up and didn’t see a game recap, I thought RR was slipping. And then I looked at my calendar and saw it was Jan. 4.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
It has been a while since I have seen the Benes brothers mentioned.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Their sister is hot
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 4, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I voted for the fast guy.
Corcino is an enticing option, but he’s a far-away high-ceiling pitcher, and I’d rather have a far-away high-ceiling hitter. Hopefully they both turn in convincing seasons, solidify themselves on top-100 lists, and surpass our expectations.
Yesterday, people mentioned that Mesoraco isn’t a prospect. That’s how I feel about Cozart (but not Meso for some reason). He likely would have stuck at SS for all of last year after the call-up. Hopefully he can OPS above .700 for his career and play plus defense – I think we’d all take that.
Walt's going to sign J.D. Drew for LF, isn't he?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 10:44 AM EST reply actions
At $4 mil or so
it wouldn’t be a bad move.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
If you had to choose between Drew or Magglio (at the same price)
who would you go with?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
true.
I’m just trying to think of the options that Walt will be considering, and I’m pretty confident he’ll at least offer both of these guys (though he’ll surely try to low ball them.)
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
They were both godawful last year, and Magglio is a couple of years older
But I would still go with Magglio. Two reasons:
1. Less injury history.
2. Superior recent performance (even last year).
I think his body has less wear than Drew’s, and he seemed to come around last year after he got healthy – he hit .296 after July 1. Drew played in only 14 games and hit .146 after July 1.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 4, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Plus, Mags has far superior hair
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Well, you had the chance to buy it
$6,100 does seem a little steep though
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 4, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
At first I thought it would be cool if he donated it to Locks of Love.
But really, $6000 would buy a lot of wigs.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
Whichever one gets a cleaner bill of health. Assuming that's equal, Drew b/c he's still shown some power.
Either one will improve the OBP in LF by a significant margin with the outside chance of having a Scott Rolen effect on the lineup – I guess now that Scott Rolen isn’t Rolen these 2012 Reds in anyone’s mind.
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
Drew
Didn’t Walt draft him?
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
You are correct, sir. In 1998.
He was Jocketty’s fourth consecutive gold strike, following Matt Morris, Braden Looper and Adam Kennedy. After that came four straight years of flops. Aw, don’t get me started on the draft. I’ll get all wound up and post 7,000 words again.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 4, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Kearns and Lopez went back-to-back in that round
Forgot about that. And how could you not like the Dodgers’ first-rounder?
by ken on Jan 4, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
there were some big names in that draft
But a lot of people were surprised Bubba fell that far.
Bubba doesn’t even remember what pick he was. If I was the 23rd pick, I’d remember it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
homer
jk
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
Bubba Crosby reference / mention
drink
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
The Reds had 8 first-round picks play for them,
unfortunately, it was the wrong 8.
It seems weird to have Sabbathia and Drew as generally equal in terms of WAR.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
I know
He had a really promising start to his career.
I wonder if things might have turned out better if he weren’t rushed so much. He ended up in the big leagues after only a year in the minors.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I voted for #secspeed
And I’m voting Corcino next time. I like Cozart, but no way a 26 year old at the MLB level is getting my vote as a top 3 prospect.
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My list goes like this.
1. Meso
2. Hamilton
3. Corcino
4. Yorman
5. Cozart
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
WHOA WHOA WHOA
patience, Grasshopper!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Everybody be cool
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not too big on Hamilton. Lot's of SS's get over ranked and end up not hitting for squat.
Billy isn’t hitting now, and I’m not sure how much he projects later.
I love Corcino’s numbers, but if his ceiling is #3 and Stephenson’s is #1/#2, why are people so wait and see about him? People have said he’d have gone much higher in a normal draft class. I go with Stephenson.
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
I've heard him compared to Homer Bailey, only hopefully he doesn't have injury problems and he doesn't have attitude problems.
I’m not sure whether I think that’s a good or bad thing.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
It's a good thing! It's a bad thing!
It’s a combination good and bad thing!
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
it's a "better than Chris Gruler" thing!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Homer Bailey was compared to Roger Clemens
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
And Kerry Wood
somebody said if he stayed healthy he would do everything Kerry Wood was suppose to do.
Homer Bailey’s fastball and breaking ball have never really been comparable to Wood’s.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Stephenson is said to be a
high-character, humble, very coachable kid.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 4, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot wait to see the kid pitch
It is going to be fun to follow him through the minors for the next few years.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Which gives him a big leg up on Homer.
But as far as stuff, he’s supposed to be comparable. I suppose that’s a good thing. Homer with a good attitude and less injury risk is a good prospect, especially right out of high school with plenty of time to develop.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
I would say the injury risk is the same
When Homer Bailey was drafted he had no red flags other then being a young pitcher who throws hard. Which is about the same for Stephenson.
Taking a high school pitcher in the first round is always a risk.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I am a little weary of prospects who's best tool is speed.
I may be irrational though.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Understandable.
We don’t want to get Willy T’d again. I’d sure take Luis Castillo in his prime, however, and be quite pleased. You can’t teach speed, but when it goes and there’s nothing else to fall back on, the career drop is dramatic.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I used a highly scientific method to determine Yorman is the #2 prospect in the system
I went into Microsoft Excel and typed:
=Randbetween(1,7)
and it answered “5”. Yorman is the 5th name on the poll.
Seriously, though, I would guess it depends on what standard you want to use. Cozart clearly has the highest “floor” – i.e., he has the best chance (by far) of being at least an average MLB player. If you prefer a player with a high ceiling, than I guess it comes down to Hamilton, Yorman, or Stephenson.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 4, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions
True, but I think Yorman's ceiling isn't quite as high as some think.
He has yet to show elite speed, contact, or power in real games. And yeah, he’s 19, but that’s a lot of hoping on raw tools that have yet to manifest.
Also, I think, of those 3, he has the highest bust potential. It could be Stephenson, just because he’s a pitcher, but Yorman has already shown himself to be injury prone.
OTOH, sometimes I think he’s easily a top 5 guy in the system. I just really can’t figure him out. I’d love to see him stay healthy for a full season.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Good thing he's only 19
He still has a good three years of the benefit of the doubt.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
he has a strong throwing arm and good wheels
I’m less optimistic than I was a year ago, but Mesoraco was a semi late bloomer also.
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by obc2 on Jan 4, 2012 12:08 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
So, this is off topic
But The Greatest Animated Sports GIFs of 2011 is absolutely fucking hysterical.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd because your link popped
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
So, the Cards are apparently looking at Oswalt as a reliever?!?!??
wtf
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Is he not interested in being a starter?
Granted, last year was the worst season of his career, but he was still pretty solid, and it’s not like he is ancient or anything. There must be plenty of teams that would love to have him in their rotation.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 4, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Bad back
I don’t know if he wants to relieve or if teams are only interested in him if he’s willing to come out of the ’pen. The teams that would put him in their rotation are probably non-contenders, and he might not be in the mood to settle for that.
by ken on Jan 4, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno.
I think the Red Sox, Yankees…ahem…Reds…Brewers, and Marlins would put him in their rotations.
I’d rather go for a 1 year $7 million contract with him than with Coco, I think.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. Do the whole "you are welcome to compete for a rotation spot, but if you don't earn one you'll have a spot in the 'pen" thing
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Maybe I don't fully understand the context of your statement
but I would think if the Reds signed Roy Oswalt, he would have a guaranteed spot in the rotation, as he would be the third or fourth best starter on the team (depending on how you value Oswalt and Mike Leake).
Latos
Cueto
Oswalt
Leake
Arroyo
That would be a fine rotation.
Although I would really like to see them trade for Sheilds Baltimore’s Chris Tillman and so the rotation can be:
Latos
Arroyo
Tillman
Oswalt
Shields
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Oswalt would really help push them over the top
Especially if Arroyo sucks again, Bailey gets hurt again, or Chapman isn’t ready to be a starting pitcher.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I'd love to have Oswalt.
He’d be a top 3 starter on this team.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
No he wouldn't, Leake will be better in 2012 than Roy Oswalt
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I dunno, that's hard to say
I think there’s a good chance they’ll be close to equal to each other, but I’d give the slight edge to Oswalt
Leake is probably more likely to stay healthy and pitch 180+ innings
but I think if Oswalt is healthy enough to make 30+ starts he would probably out pitch Leake.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
remember last spring training?
Leake was terrible. The Fay was predicting he’d lose his roster spot.
Who’d have thunk it?
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by BubbaFan on Jan 4, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Leake got his shit together after he was demoted to AAA
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
rec'd
for thunk
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
That is a very big assumption
There’s a reason that Oswalt is still unsigned, hoping to get a one-year deal with someone that will guarantee him a rotation spot. He’d be off the market if he was reasonably healthy.
by ken on Jan 4, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
I have made no assumptions about Oswalts health
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
if?
how about when
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
#SubscriptionRenewed
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
The context of my statement is me sitting at my computer at school, killing time between classes.
The explicit meaning behind it seems pretty obvious.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
you really wouldn't guarentee Oswalt a rotation spot if you were the Reds?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Nope.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 4, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why?
When healthy last year his number’s where on par with Leake’s, and he has had a long and steady track record.
His ability to stay healthy, not his his ability to produce when he is on the field is the biggest question mark.
If the hypothetical choices for the rotation are Latos, Cueto, Leake, Oswalt, Arroyo, Bailey, and Chapman; Latos, Cueto, Leake, and Oswalt should get a rotation spot if they have a double digit ERA in the spring.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
That is interesting that they would move him to the bullpen for a bad back
I have heard that starting is better for a guy with a bad back, because it is more regulated and routine. A starting pitcher has the same routine throughout a 5 or 6 day cylce, with the same warm ups before his scheduled start, and side session. Where as a reliever has to get up, sit down, get up again, warm up again, pitch 1/3rd of an inning, repeat tomorrow.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Fun fact
2% of Americans think Mitt Romney’s real first name is Mittens.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
So you have 2% who think he has a cat's name (Mittens)
And another 2% who think he is named after a clay dog (Gromit), when in reality, he is named after a movie about rats.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 4, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
But how many thought John McCain's name was really Walnuts?
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Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Commodore Matthew Perry's great-great-great-great-great-great-granddaughter!
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
Chandler Bing's preferred masturbation fantasy!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
You've now crossed the line.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 4, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All this and nobody's going to mention that her real name is Kate Hudson?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
why not Steve Perry?
.. and you should have been gone!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I wish I knew anything about Robert Stephenson
besides he’s some old writer.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 4, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions
he should be an RR favorite
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Plate discipline
Do we have any decent hitting prospects that look like high OBP guys? With Votto and Hanigan leaving, are we going to be the free-swinging all-stars?
Looking a little far ahead there, dude.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
after researching
i think the reds will trade votto before 2013 in order to restock for 2014 & beyond.
it's either that or Votto's still a Red.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
WHOA! Too many scenarios there, dude.
by GrooveLeg on Jan 4, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what?
it’s either hall or oats
trade him for a haul or watch our HOF sow his oats
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
sigh
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Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
by dunnateher on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think its next year or never
the Reds passed the Bengals by in 2010 then the Bengals passed the Reds in 2011.
how long until movethereds.com makes its debut post-Votto window?
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it is too far out to make any predictions about 2014
Votto could leave, but if they use the money that went to Votto wisely they can build around: Cueto, Latos, Leake, Chapman (helluva potential rotation!), Bruce, Stubbs, Messaraco, Frazier, Francisco, Cozart, also people like Corcinco, Yorman (not likely but he could surprise), Stepheson (see Yorman), Hamilton, and others could be ready to come online.
Of course some of those guys will bust, but there is still a lot of potential talent.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
cueto will be due 10 million. so will jay bruce
latos will be in 2nd arbitration year. probably around 12 million
chapman will make 6 million.
leake will be in 2nd arbitration year. maybe 10-12 million?
stubbs will be making arbitration money. *No idea how much.
forget about filling in guys around them, I don’t know how the reds will afford those players. i think some trades will have to be made.
even if they can afford all those guys, they’re going to have to depend extremely heavily on the development of their young talent
anyone who thinks Votto will stay with the Reds
probably bet money on Manny being Manny resigning with the Indians and AROD being a lifelong Mariner.
common.
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I think it is possible, but not likely
I think Bob will make it a priority to keep Votto and will do everything he can to do so but will most likely fall short.
If I were the Reds I would actually probably be willing to give Votto a big huge long contract, since he is in good shape, has never been on the D.L. due to physical problems, and plays a position that doesn’t put a toll on his body. The chances of that contract ending badly are much lower than if Votto played literately any other position.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Griffey also played a more physically demanding position
and more than half the time did it on astroturf.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
outside of everytime Griffey was hurt with the Reds
He was a very healthy during that span.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
i attribute his health during the healthy spurts
to his therapeutic recliner.
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A better comp is Justin Morneau
but you gotta give good players expensive long term contracts, if you want good players to play on your team.
Otherwise you better get lucky with veteran retreds, or have a helluva farm system that can seamlessly replace you starts when they reach free agency, or you are going to suck.
Oakland’d
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
BUT WHO CARES WHEN THERE ARE TWO REALLY EXCITEING SEASONS COMING UP?
I know there’s a whole in-joke about this, but jeez, have you found any bowl of cereal that was unworthy of your piss?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
I think you may be panicing a bit
If the Reds play really well during the Votto window, that will boast ticket sales and payroll.
IF that happens, that along with the natural inflation of baseball payrolls, will give the Reds some wiggle room in 2014.
Now if the Reds fall on their face this year like they did last year, they are fucked and given a horrible STD, because the sales bump that comes with going to the playoffs 2 out of 3 seasons will not come.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
i dont foresee a significance bump in attendance
the economy is in the shitter and gas is going back to four bucks a gallon…sayonara disposable income!
also, im not sold the 2012 ballclub is a guaranteed playoff club. it will be an interesting season.
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I am curious as to how the economy effects ticket sales
2009 was the first season really effected by the economy, and the Reds ticket sales dropped form over 2 million in 2008 to 1.7M in 2009, but ticket sales climbed back over 2M again in 2010 and 2011.
What you say is very reasonable. But others say that for local attractions like the Reds (who the vast majority of ticket holders travel less than 100 miles to get there), may not lose that many fans, because instead of taking an expensive vacation to Disney World or where ever, families will turn to less expensive leisure activities such as maybe a weekend of Reds games and shit like that.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
i cancelled a trip to WDW for Easter 2012
just can’t justify the cost. then again, my kids are older than the Disney sweet spot (6-10)
im not sure THAT many families will trek to GABP to pay full price for tickets, food/drink and concessions. the economy is a mess! if one is looking to stretch the baseball entertainment dollar one need only look ten miles south, Florence Freedom. Plus, the ballplayers will all gladly sign autographs until the last fan fills their baseball with sigs.
families who want to go to GABP may, as slyde popularized, just skip it.
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why would you go to an Indy League game
when you can buy a $5 ticket to an MLB game?
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Jan 4, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not the ticket price that kills you
When going to a game as a family, parking and concessions become important and Freedom >>>>> Reds in those areas.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
and no bums/beggars in Florence!
that kinda creeps some kids out.
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#goodlord
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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by -ManBearPig on Jan 4, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
both those obstacles are easily worked around
you can find cheap or free parking for Reds games much easier than you can in most MLB cities I have been to. and, you can bring in your own food (lance mccalister’d).
I think the Reds do a good job of making GABP as family friendly as possible.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
Point is, the Freedom and Reds are selling two completely different experiences
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I couldn't imagine taking a kid under the age of 6 to GABP
I wouldn’t think twice about taking a child that age to a Florence game.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
taking a kid under the age of 6 to the freedom is a nightmare
it’s a much better experience for them at GABP
You can bring your own drinks and snacks in for the kids
I’m not paying $6 for a 20oz Diet Coke
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I get it and I rarely pay for concessions at GABP
But part of the ballpark experience is a hot dog, cracker jacks, etc. Also, those two points are hardly the only differences between Freedom games and Reds games. Freedom games (and in my experience minor league baseball in general) are far more geared toward the family of four/five spending a night at the ballpark at a reasonable price when compared with MLB.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Yeah, we have 5 in our family and usually spend about $200 for a Reds game total
and we take the kids to 2 games a season. Then me and the hubby go to maybe 4 or 5 more games without the kids. We’ve gone to a Bats game once but we’ve never gone to a Freedom game. I’m sure my kids would love it but I don’t know if they would want to trade that in for seeing their Reds. Might give it a try though….
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I, for one, have always had a fun time at Freedom games.
Easy access to the field, nary a bad seat and cheap ass food.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
free parking
much cheaper, often better, concession stands
$5 seats at GABP are just awful (unless you can seat hop, harder to do with fam of 5)
ballplayer interraction guaranteed for the kids
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They both have their charms
I try to go to Florence once or twice a year. For what, $10 I think, you can usually sit right behind home plate in the first or second row and have a waitress, and that is the “expensive” ticket.
I find Freedom game’s pleasant, and if I had really small kids lets say under 6, who wanted to go to a game I would take them to a Freedom game rather than a Reds game.
But they are pretty different experiences.
Also, and this is a serious question, what percentage of people who live within 25 miles of Cincinnati even know the Florence Freedom exist? I am not trying to be an asshole with this question, they just don’t seem to be marketed. I don’t remember seeing many Freedom commercials on local TV, or coverage on local sports.
It sucks that you can’t get Dragon’s tickets day of game from the box.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
id say almost everyone south of the river knows about the Freedom
the ballpark is utilized by knothole and HS teams for regular season and tournament games, when not in use by the Freedom. Champion Window Field is MUCH better utilized than GABP~!
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please,
you need to vacation for the job you want, not the job you have.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Capital letter prices are at a premium!
Although we’re still able to splurge on some "THAT"s and "GABP"s. I mean, we’re still alive, right?
we can dream
leake is latos but we eventually wake up
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
back the truck up..
where the fuck are you projecting that Leake number?
Stubbs won’t make shit, b/c he sucks as much dick as Arroyo
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure what we would all do without this thoughtful analysis.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 7:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Leake will be 2nd year arb eligible in 2014
Getting 10-12 million would be Lincecum levels of payment. I think $5-7 million is much more likely. And it could potentially be less if he struggles at all in the next couple years.
I could also see him being a Cueto-esque contract extension candidate.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
not a word was said about the pejorative use of the sexual act of sucking dick
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
whatever, glory hole boy
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
x
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I dunno
I think the Bruce Window™ will be wide open.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bruce might well retire a Red
the front office loves him, he gives back to the community very generously and he’s really the only marketable offensive ballplayer post Votto.
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and he's not gay
AMIRIGHT obc?!?!?
DISCLAIMER: This comment is a joke and is in no way meant to offend Joey Votto who is my favorite player.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
will it swallow?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
i thought votto was due 17 million in 2013, but cots says it's 19 million
no way the reds can actually afford that season. i think we’re looking at one year for the Votto window
what if someone with bigger pockets buys the team
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
do you really want to see Jason Kidd play SS?
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
He'd be better than Janish!
Veteran presence!
/obc’d
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by BK on Jan 4, 2012 4:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
another reason the nba sucks
too many #wifebeaters
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or demarcus cousins?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I'm confused... are you guys saying these guys are wife-beaters?
Because almost all of them are not.
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
by boobs on Jan 4, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not at all
stephenson was unmarried, he beat on his GF.
the rest of them are the one i remember having numerous runs ins for various altercations.
then again, who’s the nba equivalent of mike leake???
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gary payton
stole a ton of stuff
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
I know you'd just enjoy it if I flagged this,
but it’s probably the spammiest, ugliest, most racist thing I’ve seen on this website.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
have we already forgotten yosstin's double n-word post recently?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
because the content of this is actually racist
mine is only racist if you are a fucking moron and didn’t read the context.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I read it
you were racist, there is no defensible position of your post, and I read the context
the only argument you can make with me is that if we openly used racial slurs to desensitize them, that they would lose their sting and just become normal words, and society would evolve to have thicker skin
aside from that, you’re a short-sighted shallow and pedantic career student who refuses to enter the real world and get a real fucking job and hides behind a fucking keyboard on an internet message board while trying to wax philosophic, intellectual, and well-versed when you’re far from
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Agreed
Let’s kill this unfortunate conversation right now. HLM, you know better than to resort to personal attacks like that.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
And this is why we purposefully try to avoid provocative non-baseball issues here.
People become offended and it turns into personal attacks.
Want to know why we can’t permit people to say what they want under a guise of free speech? Because people will ultimately abuse that freedom.
The threads the past few days are clear evidence of that.
Is that you with long hair?
I see the sport coat!
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so was this the most racist post of all time?
I shoulda got a pop up. Dang.
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I shouldn't have
but Yossitan shouldn’t have banged the “it’s cool to openly use the N-word” drum and then ignorantly kept banging it with no substance
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Again misconstruing what i am saying
i never said it was okay to use that word in a pejorative sense. Ever. End of story.
What I did say is that in the case of discussing racial slurs, I believe in actually using the word rather than saying or writing the n-word, or racial slur.
You have yet to make any type of strong argument that says that writing “n-word” rather than writing the word out is any better when discussing the term in a non-pejorative fashion.
You can say that words like that do not belong on a sports blog regardless of context, which I can buy if we clean up the cunts and fags as well. But it is a real weak argument to claim you can openly use slurs against the homosexual community and women but nothing else.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 5, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
jeez
That’s unfair. He said nothing of the sort.
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by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2012 6:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you are correct
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
nope, wasn't ok to post
did I cross a line? yup
do I give a fuck? nope
why? who cares?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
This site was more fun in 2011.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
you've moved on from rookie to veteran status!
it doesn’t take long to start posting about how RR used to be better.
you should have been here in 2006! it was the snacks then
How would suit react to current events?
He should definitely get on twitter!
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not really
this site was more fun once ’nukkah stopped personally attacking me
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
yeahhh Naked Devil Santa!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
don't tease me
give it to me, give it all to me
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think that extra $2M makes the difference
by ken on Jan 4, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
i don't think they can afford him either way
gonna take a deep post season run this year to make it possible
Baseball-Reference says he is owed $17M.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
nah
it is 19 million, but 2 million has to be paid in a lump sum at the beginning of the year. If they traded him, who would have to pay the bonus (and the rest of the salary) would be negotiated
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
either way
great Guster song
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
anyone see who a five person panel named for the first 5 slots on the Bengals Ring of Fame?
Anthony Munoz
Ken Anderson
Paul Brown
Isaac Curtis
Ken Riley
i cant argue against Riley he should be a NFL HOF’er. Anderson is probably on outside windowsill looking in to the HOF, but he was the most accurate passer of his generation.
Would anyone replace Isaac Curtis with anyone else?
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Boomer??
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
I was just concerned that the Ring of Fame consisted of 4 non-blondes.
Regardless of the organization, that should never happen.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
I refuse to do it, find some other sap to link to YouTube
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
what's goin' on?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
in other Bengals news, Pro Football Talk named Mike Brown Executive of the Year
never thought I’d see that
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
whether it was shrewd scouting (doubtful) or blind squirrel finding 2 nuts (Green/Dalton)
dude had a hell of a year.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 4, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
They are good are going to have 4 first round picks in the next 2 years
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
But that's 95% based on the fact that the Raiders gave them a Godfather offer for Carson, right?
Executive of the Year for not being a moron and turning down a deal that he lucked into because he’s stubborn. Way to go, MB.
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by BK on Jan 4, 2012 5:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Machiavelli just turned over in his grave
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
That's like naming Ray Charles Explorer Of The Year
Sure he found stuff, but it’s not like it happened the way he planned.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 4, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
making fun of blind people always gets a rec.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
x
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 4, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
clearly looking at Joey Votto
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Todd Frazier will make some very happy someday, if he ever gets the chance to play.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
you have no idea how many girls i said that to in high school.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 4, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That todd will make some tream very happy?
No wonder you never got laid.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
by Madville on Jan 4, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
pre-frying pan'd
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
"Sliding Billy" Hamilton
1st – It makes me happy to see that the #1 and #2 prospects in the Reds system are at the most highly sought after positions in the game.
2nd- How fucking stupid is everyone who didn’t vote for Billy Hamilton? THE GUY STOLE 103 BASES LAST YEAR in 135 games and didn’t get on base for shit in the first half. Not even Ricky Henderson did that and he got on base 35% more in A+. Although it is worth noting that Rickey didn’t get caught stealing until AA, which is fucking AMAZING.
BTW – WE ARE COMPARING THE SPEED ON THE SECOND BEST PROSPECT IN OUR SYSTEM TO RICKEY HENDERSON! (also Rickey got on base a lot)
“Sliding Billy” Hamilton was also the name of the 3rd best base stealer in the history of baseball.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Hamilton_(baseball)
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions
Eh
I hope “Billy Quicks” catches on.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
This sounds like Thom made it up
But I do like it better.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
True story
This morning it looked like Hamilton would win this thing, so I wrote up a whole post about him using that nickname. Then Cozart won and I had to kill the whole thing.
I did H/T you for it, just so you know :-)
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Well
at least you can use it for #3.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, that'll be BK. you'll have to convince him.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 5, 2012 7:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey BeeKer
’creds did all the work for you.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions
Wild Bill Quickock!!!
…nope, that’s just terrible. Sorry everyone. Carry on.
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
welp, I have a new nickname for obc
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
It won't look as stupid when 7 other guys in the system have better careers than Hamilton
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
what if the opposite happens?
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I refuse to be legitimately excited about Billy Hamilton until he proves he can do the same sorts of things at Louisville, and maybe not then
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Really?
Stealing 100 bases is exciting, even if you do it in Legion ball.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions
meh, I see it as a novelty act
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 5, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A novelty act would be playing eight positions, or 30 sacrifice bunts
100 steals adds value (as long as you’re not getting caught all the time, which Hamilton didn’t).
But I’m also tempering my enthusiasm until he shows he can hit at AA.
by ken on Jan 5, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
I love ya brah
But this is a ridiculous point of view. You need to see him play live. His range is phenomenal.
Alan Wiggins, delino deshields and Ozzie smith had long MLB careers with very similar body types. Plus, speed will have increased value post Steroid era.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
It's just a different game now
Even without steroids I don’t think speed has made its way back into the game yet. Maybe in 5-10 years, who knows. Maybe Hamilton will help usher that era back in?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Jose Reyes is a pretty good player...
granted, he’s got a bit more power than Sir Steals-a-Lot, but I think speed is still a valuable asset
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Aardvarks!
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by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 5, 2012 12:12 PM EST reply actions
Since there is so much of it going on from so many right now
consider this your official warning. Anymore and action will be taken.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 6, 2012 7:48 AM EST reply actions
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