Red Reposter - Surviving a slow news cycle
by ken on Jan 31, 2012 11:00 AM EST
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- The Caravan swung to Columbus
"It's a swing city, really," Reds chief operating officer Phil Castellini said during a stop at Polaris Fashion Place mall in Columbus. Leading the Caravan to C-bus was Brandon Phillips and catching wunderkind Devin Mesoraco, who was glad to get a few more questions this year: "I get more questions now, it seems like. In the past when I was with Brandon [Phillips], he'd get all the questions. More people know who I am, I guess." BP then deadpanned "get me a Coke, groundhog," grinning and elbowing Thom Brennaman in the ribs. For pictures and Caravan wrap-ups, check out the fine work at OMGreds and Red Hot Mama. - Commercially viable Reds
The offseason is about selling tickets and selling out, and plenty of Reds have shilled for Corporate America over the years. Redlegs Review runs down some old television endorsements by Reds for products like Aqua Velva, Krylon Paint, and Pepsi, which tastes the worst of the three. - "So you're telling me there's a chance"
According to the Vegas bookmakers, the Reds are now a 25-1 shot for winning the WS and a 9-1 for taking the NL pennant. Sounds reasonable, no? (If I could short any of these, I'd bet against Miami to win the Series at 15-1.) But maybe some pessimism is in order. Redleg Nation ran some fancy algorithms based on the Reds' ZiPS projections, and spat out a 84-78 season. Then again, Reds Net Live thinks that simply avoiding last year's injury bug will be the difference-maker. Who's right? - How would you improve baseball?
May as well take advantage of an uneventful week in baseball to muse about what could make it better. I'm not crazy about some of these suggestions, but I've long been behind Christina Kahrl's idea to make relievers face off against more than just one batter: Her proposal: "Any pitcher has to face a minimum of three batters in an inning or complete that inning before he may be removed from a game.... The goal is to cut down on the shuffling from the 'pen and the interminable committee meetings that can make the last three innings of action in a ballgame seem anything but active." I'm all in favor of speeding up the game. To set up somewhat of a straw-man, purists who oppose efforts to speed up games are mistaken that history favors their view. Before night games, umpires routinely prodded players to hurry up the action to avoid calling games for darkness. - Barry's in Brazil
Hall of Famer Barry Larkin, with some other former players and with assistance from MLB International, is hosting Elite Camps next month in Brazil to instruct the best junior (14-17) talent in the area. Good to see MLB extending its reach down there, because according to baseball-reference there have been no MLB players from Brazil, Argentina, or Peru. That's less than Russia (8!), Austria-Hungary (4), Saudi Arabia (1), and "Atlantic Ocean" (1?).
- How much will GABP affect Mat Latos?
We shall see, but this is a neat little tool that transposes batted balls hit at one park onto another. If you select Mat Latos in the Pitcher drop-down, you can see where all of his fly balls, triples, etc. hit off him at PETCO would go if they were hit at GABP. There's other factors to consider, like humidity and wind, but it's an interesting tool nonetheless. -
BP and Morgan memorilized on Fleer card
A fun little picture of the mutual admiration society that is Joe Morgan and Brandon Phillips. El Beeperino may not be the player that lil' Joe was, but who is? I'm gonna miss his swagger when he flies the coop next winter, though I'll be comforted that the Reds plowed the savings into retaining Joey Votto. - The Reds and SI Covers
Baseblog looks back at the five most recent Reds to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated. Like I said, it's a slow news day. Always nice to see Joey Votto posing with his bat next to the "time to get mean" headline. - The Boston Globe ranks the teams, as they are
They have the Reds 9th, fourth in the NL. Sounds about right. "GM Walt Jocketty made moves that indicate the Reds were a little sick of the way things have been going down, and they're happy to take advantage of St. Louis's and Milwaukee's offseason losses. They added closer Ryan Madson on a one-year, $8 million deal. They traded for Mat Latos to strengthen their rotation. They seem poised to make a legitimate run in the NL Central". - Where the big money is heading
If you're curious as to the geographical layout of the teams giving out the highest dollar contracts in baseball, then you're in luck thanks to Big Red Smokey. Not a surprise to see the clusters in the northeast and left coast, but there are also plenty of big deals in the upper midwest and deep in the heart of Texas. - The Dunner is ready to forget about 2011
Adam Dunn didn't get one of those huge deals last winter, but you probably know that he was overpaid at any price. He suffered through a wretched season, threatening to break the lowest AVG record (mercifully falling a few PAs short). To his credit, Big Donkey appeared at Chicago's recent SoxFest to meet with fans and answer the inevitable questions about his catastrophic 2011. Dunn's not offering any excuses and is looking forward to turning the page: "I'm going into this year feeling as good as I've felt in a long time and just ready to get started and quit talking about it. Doesn't matter where you go, everyone is talking about it. I realize that comes with (the territory), but I really can't wait for Opening Day." Me too, Adam. Me too.
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Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
BP was not in the Columbus caravan.
He was in the southern leg with Tucker
by vottomatic on Jan 31, 2012 11:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
No, he wasn't
The only players were The Golem, Lamarre, and Tom Browning.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
please tell me you weren't the smelly dude in camo pants
who complained about how grandal is gonna be better that meso the whole time?
I'm pretty sure that was KMiB
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
those pants didn't smell!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
I got there around 10:30ish, just as the Q&A session was winding down.
The little fella who asked Banana Bob for a balloon? That was Fat Vegas Tommy.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
The camo guy actually mentioned RLN as his source of info
and the people right behind us had “Better Off Red” Shirts. Red Reporter needs a shirt
Red Reporter: Needs a Shirt.
STACHE SMASH!!!
by Corky's Stache on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Red Reporter: Because We Sure As Heck Aren't Wearing Pants
by andromache on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
that
could get you arrested.
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we should all just get "Anonymous" masks of a dude with stubble and a fedora.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Red Reporter: Our fake taglines are better than the real one.
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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Red Reporter: Whining about our tagline since 1869
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
by TheC on Feb 1, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I missed most of the good stuff
It was my first time going and I didn’t know what to expect. I don’t care about autographs, so the Q&A was all I was going for. I’ll have to be sure to be there on time next year.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
i recommend getting as close as possible.
The speakers are not the best so its kinda hard to hear and in the back people are chatty
I was right beside the speaker
I could hear just fine. I was just late is all.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Only if it's sleeveless
Sun’s out, guns out baby.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
That "depth gauge" feels a little forced
Why not just have a word bubble saying, “I’m jumping into a 90 foot deep pool of money, mostly gold coins by the looks of it.”
Mgr., Red Reporter
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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 31, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
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or however the hell you spell it
Dirt Bikes!
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 31, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I still love "up the punx" as a catchphrase for Devin
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by BK on Jan 31, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Man...I didn't like clicking on Bronson Arroyo in the GABP with that MLB Tool
That one hurt.
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by Kidd2Petrovic on Jan 31, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I won't do it.
But I did just see at BBRef that he gave up 46 home runs this year??!?!!!
in 199 innings. That is not good.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
yep....I had a perverse hope he would get to 50
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I think we were all rooting for that on game 161.
He gave up like 3 HRs that game and many wanted him to give up 7.
He broke Milty’s record, right?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
yup, I believe Wiltin' Milton only gave up 40
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Right
Arroyo was in select company last year. He became only the fourth pitcher ever to qualify for the ERA title and give up more than 2 HR / 9 IP.
You got the list?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Best part of that list:
Eric Milton puts up the (at the time) 6th worst season for allowing HR and the Reds, playing in an even more homer-friendly park than Philly, sign him to a fat contract.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 1, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Similarly...
My first thought was, “Ha! Look at the guys that are on that list twice!” And then I thought, “Heh. Look. The Reds are one of the teams that are on that list twice.”
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it. He was 14-6 for Philly, but then next year he sucked!
by ken on Feb 1, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Good stuff.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Simple question here.
Is Stubbs going to be a platoon player this upcoming year? I have him on my fantasy team and just searching for some information.
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Very good. I didn't want to trade him.
I just hope last year’s strikeout total was just a fluke and not a sign of things to come.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Many of us around here doubt he will be able to make adjustments to become a good hitter
And all that speed will be wasted due to one of the lowest contact rates in the majors.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
this almost sounds like Ian Stewart that we got rid of because of this very thing.
He wasn’t the fastest but his power potential is so much. Stubbs is a leadoff man with the power. I personally would love to have a leadoff with power on my team. We’ve all seen it. He needs to get it back.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly not a leadoff man.
Stubbs at leadoff is akin to punching Joey Votto in the balls and telling him to stop punching himself in the balls. Joey already has too many at bats with no one on base.
We still don’t have a prototypical leadoff guy, but if BP can repeat his .350ish OBP, that will be adequate.
The real question is, who hits #2? We haven’t really seen if Cozart has good table-setting skills, but odds are Dusty will put him there either way.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I just read tonight's After Dark Fangraphs chat and someone mentioned
Ryan Hanigan as a possible #2 hitter. Of course, Dusty would never go for this, but he would be a good #2 hitter.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I asked Dusty this in person last year
he basically told me to go shit in my hat (in a very polite way).
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
base cloggin'
In all honesty, I see Ludwick there this year, and I don’t have anything against that.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Better have quite a reversion
if Dusty wants him to bat second
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
And there are those of us who think he's a perfectly good player
who gets too much derision for his weaknesses and not enough regard for his strengths.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
He is a good player.
His power potential is there, needs to find it again. He has speed. I don’t know what else he needs to do. Is there something else wrong with him?
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
people around these parts
don’t like when people strike out, which he does a lot. So he gets hammered pretty good
Strikeouts are bad.
Strikeouts are worse when you have blazing speed.
A .251 average with a .343 BABIP is absurd.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa...I hadn't seen those numbers before.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 31, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure numbers like that have ever happened before.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like painting with such a broad brush
“people around these parts” hold a wide spectrum of opinions, especially on a player as polarizing as Stubbs.
That said, his contact rate is bad, he can’t bunt, and some think his defense isn’t all that great. Conversely, he’s shown decent power in the past, has tremendous speed that translates very well in the outfield and on the bases, and some think his defense is Gold Glove-worthy.
So yeah, he’s one of the most talked-about players around here. He’s just so darned interesting.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well, the Reds fan base is led by Marty and Thom.
Sooooooooooo…. I’d say the are generally uninformed.
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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 31, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not everyone has traded in conventional wisdom and common sense for calculator and pocket protector. .
One must strive for a balance in all things. Especially baseball player evaluation.
If the eyes and the numbers do not agree about what they see, one must meditate until harmony is reached.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
ah, disregard my comment below
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
but Dusty said he's working on his bunting!
Which I both am and am not excited to hear.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Seems to me that more people take up for him here than complain about him
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
i don't really care about stubbs
he’s not good enough to defend or bad enough to hate.
the only time i get an opinion about him is when someone else is either overly defending him or overly hating on him
by 'tHan on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So he's like Dayton.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
But much whiter and far, far less dangerous.
And a little more stinky…but with fewer skanks and burning couches.
You know, I’m stickin’ with Dayton.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
Less attractive mates are always better in bed, because they work harder
Doesn’t mean they’re good to date.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
But, if he struggles I wouldn't be surprsied to see Heisey in CF and Ludwick in LF.
So, keep him on a short leash. But, I think Stubbs will put up a good year.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
As I stated above, his K rate has got to come down. If not, he may be in trouble.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but he is always going to have a high K rate.
What he needs to do is put up the power numbers he showed in 2010.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 31, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
This I agree with. My wife actually played in 2010.
If the power returns, he will do well.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
by Roxman4ever on Jan 31, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
That would be nice
But he’s still a decent player without it. He’s got plus-plus speed with about average OBP ability due a decent walk rate. And he plays a premium defensive position well.
I should be able to find this but can't seem to
Is there a breakdown of WAR by position for each team? Does that make sense?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Yep
Click thru each position. Fap.
Your welcome.
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His welcome?
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
How did the Reds get 3.6 WAR out of LF last year???
Also, the Tigers had the highest 1B WAR of any team, and they just signed Prince. Interesting.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
that's the thing
In many ways, were were kind of lucky last year. Even though it didn’t seem like it.
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luck is for losers has long been a theory of mine
looks like the colts are in the process of proving me right!
well, if you're looking for something unprovable and used to drum up self-esteem
you certainly came to the right theory.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
it really might be
There was that article that said if a team has really bad luck in one-run games, it’s not bad luck, it’s a bad manager. The theory being that the manager doesn’t make a difference in games that are won by more than one run, but does affect close games.
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but, weren't the reds really good in one run games the year before?
did dusty become a bad manager or was o-cab doing the managing for him in 2010?
27-27 in one-run games in '10, and 11-8 in extras
Having some new firemen in the bullpen should help in the late-and-close department this year.
What's Dusty's career record in one-run games.
Now, that might tell us something.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I should look that up.
But…pinball and snacks.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
Dusty in one run games
SF – 240-213
CHC – 87-93
CIN – 103-100
Overall – 430-406
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Dusty has exactly the same record with the Reds as he did with the Cubs...
make of that what you will.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
how?
He only played 3 playoff games with the Reds, but the Cubs went through, what, 9 games in 2003?
Was he fired just at the end of a season or something?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Dusty's contract expired after the 2006 season.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
But Dusty did it in the right order in Cincinnati, unlike Chicago
In Chicago things started off really good, and his worst season was his contract season.
In Cincinnati things started off really bad and his best season was his contract season.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
sucks
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Hmm
SF – .530 (1-run) vs .540 (overall)
CHC – .483 vs .497
CIN – .507 vs .497
Overall – .514 vs .521
I don’t know if this would be significant or not. Overall, he loses just over 1 win a year in 1-run games compared to the rest of the games.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
having better starting pitcher will help too
if the offense performs at similar levels, and the pitching can cut a half-run off the ERA, they’ll have much fewer one-run games.
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I am not sure if I agree with that
it seemed like the Reds were losing a lot of games by 1 run due to an over taxed bullpen.
I mean managers can have more effect in close games, but honestly the shitty starting pitching early, was bailed out by good relief work on a daily bases, which is why the Reds stayed in the race for a while, but by July the bullpen was toast. Can’t really blame that on Dusty.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
The bigger issue is that the Reds had 62 one-run games (were actually 29-33), most in baseball
Nobody in the playoffs had more than 49. Depending on being good in one-run games is put all of your eggs in the luck basket.
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by Slyde on Jan 31, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And it is unreasonable to expect your basket to be full two years in a row.
As is the converse!
/hope’d
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
holy cow
That is kind of interesting. Not sure what it means, but it’s interesting.
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I guess here is a good spot
compare Stubbs’ K rate to Heisey’s.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
If striking out is the problem, Heisey’s not the solution.
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I'm pretty sure Heisey's power is for real though
like way more than Stubbs’ power.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Yeah, but probably not that real
18 HR in 308 PAs is, like, 35-40 homer power. I don’t think he can do that consistently.
He will probably homer at a greater rate than Stubbs, but I’m not sure it would be enough to make up for his shitty CF defense.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think his defense is shitty either
about average in CF
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Heisey is almost certainly worse in CF than Stubbs, though
Slower, and seems to get worse reads on the ball, too.
Plus, if he keeps showing huge power, the Reds are probably better off with him in LF over Ludwick (unless Ludwick discoers the Fountain of 2008).
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 31, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not convinced Heisey will ever have the D to take over for Stubbs
or the OBP to take over for Ludwick. I’d love for him to show me wrong, but if not, well hey, he’s a great 4th OF.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Definitely slower, and a worse defender in CF overall, I agree
but I wouldn’t agree with the bad reads, cuz Stubbs’ reads aren’t so hot to begin with.
Anyway, Stubbs’ defense vs. Heisey’s power. The defense probably wins out, but Heisey’s never really gotten a chance. I want him to get a chance!
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I agree
the sample size on Heisey is too small to judge his abilities.
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my two favorites are
1. shot clock for pitchers – once the pitcher has the ball, the 15 second clock starts. if he fails to start his motion toward the plate in time it’s a balk. a batter may not call time with less than 5 seconds left on the clock.
2. no DH
by GrooveLeg on Jan 31, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Your second point makes all the sense in the world
Rec’d.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 31, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I guess
But the National League works just fine with 25, so I don’t see a need to expand rosters.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
If anything it would slow games down even more.
Either an additional pitching change or an additional pinch hitter (which would potentially cause the other team to change pitchers).
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think players would be ok with taking away a DH
without adding a PH spot for first basemen to grow old and die in.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
It'll never happen but..
I’ve always carried around this idea that the DH could be great if each manager could only use it once per game.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't teams always use them early, then just pinch-hit for the pitcher thereafter, as desired?
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
That won't really work
a balk can only be called with runners on base, and if there are runners on base, he can just toss to a base and he would get a new clock.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Good points. I think the clock only works with bases empty.
How about a pitch clock of 15 seconds from the time the batter is fully in the batter’s box, only with the bases empty?
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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 31, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
i wouldn't be against it
but usually pitchers work pretty fast with the bases empty, they tend to slow down when they are in trouble. That is part of the excoriating thing, bottom of the 9th, a 4 run lead has turned into 1, and there are runners on second and third, pitchers step off a lot, throw over, have mound meetings with the catcher, etc.
But every time the pitcher slows the game a little more it builds the tension and puts you closer to the edge of your seat.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
You are a die-hard baseball fan though. You appreciate those situations far more than the casual fan.
But casual fans are what makes the game tick. Baseball would be more interesting to them if the game was played faster. And maybe my wife wouldn’t excoriate me for staying out so late.
You can not let the worlds collide.
Would your wife get all shitty if you didn’t kick us out of your living room, mid game? Should I pick up Pepsi or Sam Adams?
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You guys are probably right, not a bad idea about bases empty.
I also realized that 15 seconds is pretty long. Maybe 10 is better.
And then a balm, and then a baln, and then a balo
And so on in that fashion.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 31, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
seriously?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I love the DH.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I like that there is a difference between the leagues that creates discussion and rivalry.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
I agree
and if the NL ever adopted it, within three years you wouldn’t ever hear another complaint about it being “not real baseball.”
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I don't like the DH
I think everyone in the lineup should hit.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I agree, with the exception of the pitcher
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by kcgard2 on Feb 1, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you crafty devil
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
yeah, I'm in the pro-DH category
I would rather watch David Ortiz hit than Jeff Karstens
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you suck.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
No he doesn't
This is one thing I’ll never understand. Having the DH in the NL would help the teams so much its not even. The average pitchers hits several leagues below the worst DHs, teams wouldn’t have to pull SPs for a pinch hitter, pitchers wouldn’t be fatigued by running the bases, and they wouldn’t have to spend any time at all bunting.
I really, really don’t get why everyone isn’t for it. The only argument against it is essentially the same one against instant replays.
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Here's an argument FOR it:
The Reds’ starting pitchers hit well.
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 1, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, every once in a while you'll have a Mike Hampton or Micah Owings, and you won't need a DH
But 99% of the time, a team would be much better off with a DH
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Or the team would be worse off because of the reduced playing time of the bench and platoon players.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
I like it just the way it is
I like that there is still a noticeable difference between the leagues. I dunno, it’s just neat, I guess.
I don’t hate the DH, and I wouldn’t hate it if the NL adopted it. But it would reduce the mystique and nuance and character of the game, I think. Kinda like how all the ballparks are different. If they standardized all the parks it would make this more fair and create a more level playing field, but it wouldn’t the same. It wouldn’t be as fun.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 1, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I agree that I like the difference between the leagues
that’s part of the charm of baseball, IMO. But that has steadily been eroded by basically every change baseball has made in the last 4 decades. The DH is pretty much the last step left, if they ever take it.
I would like the NL to adopt the DH, but it won’t bother me that they don’t.
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take a stance Mitt Romney
I am glad Mitt Romeny came along, John Kerry isn’t topical anymore.
PS people from MA shouldn’t run for President.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Here's my take.
I’d rather the leagues be equal (on the playing field, at least, since we know a salary cap isn’t coming anytime soon.)
There’s no possible way the AL gets rid of the DH, though that would be my preference…the MLBPA just simply would never allow it.
So I’m for the NL getting a DH.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 1, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I prefer it be unresolved and to humorously watch the people who care too much about this fight for decades over it.
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Baseball is nine players
Softball is 10
NL > AL
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by obc2 on Feb 2, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
attack the poster
not the idea!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I like the strategy that goes into pinch hitting and bullpen use
If you’re putting together a rally, but your pitcher is coming up, but he’s been pitching well, then OH GOD WHAT DO YOU DO?!
And then we all gripe that he should have done the other thing.
that's a good point.
How would we blame Dusty if he had one less decision to make incorrectly?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 1, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
One of the things I love about the World Series is watching AL managers struggle with these decisions
Ron Washington had one of his pitchers bat with the bases loaded this year just to squeeze an extra inning or two out of him. Which I can kinda understand because his bullpen was letting him down. Then again, the bases were loaded. It’s a tough call and part of what makes the game interesting. With a DH, the manager is basically done after he’s turned in the lineup card.
The best argument for the DH is preventing pitchers from getting hurt running the bases, but if there’s just a few injuries per year I consider that acceptable collateral damage.
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You have offended this ankle, sir!
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What about limiting the team to 6 timeouts
Or some number, like in the other sports. In baseball, players call timeout constantly. What if the ball were always live and you could only use a limited number of time outs?
Just brainstorming here…. might be a horrible idea given enough thought.
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I don't really think that is a good idea.
If I am a batter and I get something in my eye, I want to be able to step out of the box and not worry about hurting my team by taking a time out or bailing on a pitch.
How about they shorten the time between innings, minor league games have shorter mid inning pauses, but there is too much money to be lost by doing that at the Major League level.
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The could cut down on the money lost by selling ad space on the jerseys.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
you are filled with horrible ideas.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 31, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
How?
The park and my television are already plastered with ads. I’d much rather have a 2:30 game with less commercial time and ads on the jerseys than the way it is now with games spilling over 3:00 on a semi-regular basis with lots of commercial time.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
ou are contributing to the corporate consumer nationalistic religious strangle hold that constantly inundates Americans
with their national responsibility of buying shit they don’t need with money they don’t have on high interest rate credit cards.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 31, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I avoid buying shit I don't need and I don't have a credit card.
I just like enjoying baseball.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Red Reporter: I just like enjoying baseball
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by DerekH91 on Jan 31, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OU aren't contributing to the corporate consumer blah blah blah
That’s Miami.
Muck Fiami.
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BBTF
includes projections for Mike Costanzo! Though they aren’t quite up there with Votto’s.
That RLN analysis is rather sobering. Basically, the team isn’t much better than last year’s, based on projections. The offense is almost exactly the same, the pitching just slightly better – enough to move from 12th to 11th in the NL.
I’m not buying the injury bug thing. I don’t think the Reds had more or worse injuries than the average team. The list looks long, but some of the entries were very minor. Bruce missing a couple of days with the flu. Alonso’s ankle. (I think he’d have played if the Reds had anything to play for.) We can’t count on fewer injuries this year. Would be nice, but there’s just as much chance we’ll have more injuries, not fewer.
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Pitching projections are regressed much more than hitting projections
I’d rather see the ranking compared to all other projected rankings rather than where they’d rank last year. I’d guess they move up a few spots that way.
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I'm really wondering
how accurate these projections are. The pitching projections last year ended more than a little optimistic. Heck, last year ZIPS had a bunch of Reds pitchers projected as good as Latos’ projection this year.
Projections or no, it does seem like the Brewers and Cards are likely to have gotten worse, and that’s gotta help.
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What's been bugging me is the assumption that this offense is top tier.
It often cited around here that he Reds were second in the league in runs last year, but it’s rarely mentioned that they were 6th in wOBA, 5th in OPS+, and 5th in wRC+. That doesn’t scream “top tier offense” to me, especially considering those numbers feature a career year from BP, Heisey’s potential anomaly, and an unexpected Cairo contribution.
While I’m not about to say I’m “worried” about the offense, I will say I wouldn’t be surprised to find it worse off than last year by a decent margin.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
By the same token
Stubbs had a down year (power wise), Janish and Renteria were both abosolute black holes, and Rolen was injured for 60% of the year. The jury is still out on Stubbs (I think he’ll have a better year), but I’d be pretty surprised if we didn’t get much better production out of the SS and 3B positions.
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
That's a lot to ask from two "rookies" in Coz and END.
And Cairo had decent production from third last year.
Jury’s out on Stubbs, sure, but I’m really worried about him.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think Votto's power will return to some degree
And I’m bullish on Bruce becoming more consistent.
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If Coz is slightly below average with the bat(for a SS), then he'll be miles better than Janeria was last year
I’m apparently a lot more bullish on Rolen than most, but I don’t think there’s any way he’ll only walk 3% of the time again.
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
yeah
And Cairo was actually pretty good last year. Might have been a fluke, but even if we do get decent production from 3B, it may not be a lot better than what we got last year.
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And for all the talk about the division getting weaker because of high profile player exits
Pitching in the division hasn’t gotten weaker, and may in fact be stronger for the return of Wainwright
Not likely.
Not many pitchers return to form immediately upon their return to MLB.
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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 31, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Fair points
But I think other players will make up for some regression from BP, Cairo and Heisey. Rolen can’t do much worse than last year. We’re bound to see better production from SS. And I’d expect that the aggregate production from Bruce and Stubbs will increase, even if just one of them takes a step forward.
Looking at the four teams ahead of the Reds by those metrics, the Brewers and especially the Mets will take big hits on offense. Arizona was just about the same as us last year. St. Louis will take a step back, but I still think they’ll have the top offense in the league.
STL will have the top offense in the league if they stay healthy
Granted, I was banking on poor health from them last year too, but they can’t be that lucky again
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Freese would scare the hell out of me if he ever played 150 games a year.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Berkman and Beltran are incredibly huge regression candidates
There is NO chance both of them put up the numbers they did last year.
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Surely Miami will move up though?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Don't call me altpoint Shirley.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 31, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
hey, do you know about the Burger and Bourbon place way out west on Pearl Street?
Because I woke up with a huge hankering for it and I’d much appreciate it if you went there in my honor some point soon.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Reuben's on Broadway?
If that’s where you mean, I’ve been and it’s fantastic…and I’ll gladly go again for ya!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 1:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nope, havent been.
But it does sound damn tasty.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't see how the pitching can't be significantly better than last year
We added an ace, and got rid of the worst pitcher on the staff. Cueto will regress( and maybe Leake, to a lesser extent), but I think we’ll be much than last year.
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
When did we get rid of Arroyo?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's what I was wondering
I hope Arroyo bounces back, because we’re going to have a lot of innings of suckitude otherwise.
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This'll shock you, but Volquez was actually worse than Arroyo last year
-1 bWAR for Volq, -.5 bWAR for Arroyo.
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
Well, yeah
We’re splitting hairs, because they were both, really, really bad. I think Arroyo will be on a shorter leash this year, so If he pitches like last year, he’ll be off to the bullpen or he’ll get the Zambrano treatment
The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer
I can see the transaction report now...
“Arroyo, Bronson transferred to 60 Day DL – Syphillis.”
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And if he takes an unapproved medication
“Arroyo, Bronson placed on suspended list for 50 games by MLB.”
by ken on Jan 31, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He'd insist to play through it.
Even if it caused dementia leading him to shake off his catcher and throw “shade” instead of an actual pitch.
by FordhamRam on Jan 31, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hey, if Dock Ellis can throw a no-hitter on acid
Bronson can throw a no-hitter on syphilis eyes
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by UncleWeez on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
A South Korean may buy a controlling interest in the Dodgers.
Am I a little racist for hoping they rename Dodger Stadium Chan Ho Park?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 31, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
When they hit a home run, they'll run a Shin-Soo Choo Train like they do a Minute Maid Park.
by FordhamRam on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I couldn't rec'd this any harder even if I had a case of Viagra.
18 today, 17 tomorrow is how many days remain until Pitchers and Catchers report for Spring Training. Self taught and falling in love with this game is very easy to do, you can never hate it, and that is something that not one person can take away from anybody. The love of baseball and OUR COLORADO ROCKIES.
An when they strike someone out
They can put up on the big screen “you can’t bat no mo!”
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
That's not getting old
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
Unfortunately, Park is just a nonsensical and universal romanisation of the actual family name "Bak"
You's a big fine woman, wontha Bak that thang up?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I was just going to make my way through SE Asia, so you (Aqui)no.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
But Dong is!
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Time to get off of this boring "baseball" topic and talk about beer
Specifically, beer that tastes like bacon!
I am no beer expert. Has anyone ever tried Rauchbiers? I can’t decide whether they sound awesome or turrible.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 31, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions
I didn't have that one, but I had one like it
it was very bad.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
^ above comment is entirely and wholly untrue, my reading comprehension SUXXXX
Aecht Schenkerla is great. Shiner had a really good rauchbier a while back, and I’ve seen a couple others. I love them. I can’t emphasize how wrong the previous comment is.
They just don’t taste like bacon.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Aecht Schenkerla is an excellent beer, the best smoked beer I've had.
No other smoked beer has approached it in smokiness, though none taste like bacon to me. I also enjoyed Dogfish Head’s Imort Ale, which is both smokey and maple-y, as well as alcohol-y. Excellent.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 31, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
I've had one and was not impressed...
I finished drinking it more because of the sticker price of the bottle in spite of the taste.
anybody had spotted cow?
a friend of mine’s mom got it. apparently it is only sold in wisconsin. by far best beer i’ve ever had
I love Schlenkerla's smoke beers.
We had one on tap at the Bistro when I worked there, it was called Fastenbier, and really did taste like bacon. Their Urbock is smokier than the Marzen, which is smokier than the Helles Lager. Their Helles is a great summer beer that’s perfect for a grill out. The smokiness is super subtle, and the beer is light enough in body and alcohol to have a bunch of them.
Stone makes a nice smoked porter, but the best one I’ve ever had was the Alaskan Smoked Porter. IIRC, they smoke the malt with Alderwood, which is what smoked salmon usually is smoked over. It tastes like a non-fishy smoked salmon in a glass.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
Rauchbiers are interesting
I love making bratwurst with them. I can drink them for a bit, but it’s hard to have more than a small glass. And it has to be really cold.
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you wrote "love making"
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
And hair!
Dear goodness, that’s a lot of pretty red hair for an otherwise reasonably attractive young woman to have. What’s she trying to prove?
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 1, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that is a lot of pretty red hair...
…uh…what were we talking about again?
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Adam Dunn is exhausted, but satisfied
by Brendanukkah on Jan 31, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Travis Hafner got injured, somehow
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by DerekH91 on Jan 31, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I can't believe he didn't strike out.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 31, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looks like he enjoyed two true out-comes.
by ken on Jan 31, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Apparently defense doesn't count.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
it's great having you back around here, 'nukkah.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Reminder to self:
Never see crolf in person. He will lure you in and fuck you.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
How does the arm of his couch smell?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 1, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
it probably still has a sent.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
FTFY
it probably still has a sent. cent…between the cushions.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
I think I would've found it, i was looking down there the whole time.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
So just saw on mlbtraderumors
that edwin jackson is likely to take a one year deal. and that the red sox offered him 5-6 mil. come on there’s gotta be 7 mil somewhere under the castellini’s couch cushions
Shame about Madson
I don’t fault Walt, because at the time he signed Madson he had no idea that Edwin Jackson would end up being as cheap if not cheaper than Madson, and he didn’t want to over play his cards and come away empty handed.
A league average innings eater to stabilize the middle of the rotation after Cueto, Latos, and Leake would really help this team.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I won't count Walt out until he signs.
If there is something he can do, I think he will. Right now I trust Walt 100% He’s going for broke and I like it.
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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 31, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby C should realize that signing Edwin Jackson to a one year $5-7M contract is really protecting his investment
The Reds can succeed with Edwin, especially if they get some luck and Latos, Cueto, and Leake combine to start 90+ games 600+ innings, but Edwin Jackson really makes them better if something goes wrong with those 3.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
bullpen
I realize that creates a 13 men for 12 spots situation, but while it is possible that all 12 pitchers are healthy on opening day, odds are at least one guy gets hurt and opens the season on the D.L.. Bill Bray missed most of 2007 because he broke his finger in pitchers fielding practice, Bailey and Cueto both opened last year on the D.L. It doesn’t take much of an injury to be set back so much that you can’t build your pitch count up in time to start the season.
While Bailey hasn’t been so bad he has pitched himself out of the rotation, he hasn’t been so good he has earned a spot come hell or high water. Plus chances somebody will be injured or ineffective by June and Bailey will be in the rotation.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
His peripherals are bad. DO NOT WANT!!
Other than 11 games for the White Sox in 2010, the guy has had a WHIP of 1.395 or higher at every stop since his rookie year in 2003. His career WHIP is 1.476. Last year it was 1.437.
There are 58 active pitchers with 1000+ IP since 2004. Let’s see how he compares to the others:
55th in WHIP
48th in CG
53rd in Wins
44th in winning percentage
47th in H/IP
49th in BB/IP (only 9 players gave up more per IP)
46th in total walks allowed (only 10 more pitchers have walked more in this span)
48nd in ERA
49th in ERA+
48th in balks (only 10 pitchers worse)
47th in opponents AVG
52nd in opponents OBP
42nd in opponents SLG
50th in opponents OPS
41st in total CS
44th in pickoffs
55th in K/BB ratio.
I have not gotten why any Reds fan wants him on our roster. He’s been worse than Arroyo, Millwood, or even Carlos Silva.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 31, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Since 2008 he has been solid
His FIP every season since 2008 has been 4.88, 4.28, 3.86, 3.55
xFIP in the same time 4.97, 4.32, 3.71, 3.73
ERA 4.42, 3.62, 4.47, 3.79
Also his composite ERA+ since 2008 is 106, and he has averaged 201.5 innings a season.
He is not a great pitcher, and if the Reds get him they won’t acquire him to be a great pitcher, that is Latos and Cueto’s job.
The questions you should ask are, how likely is he to have a better 2012 than Bronson Arroyo, Homer Bailey, and Aroldis Chapman, also is he a significant upgrade over the guys who would replace Arroyo, Bailey, Chapman, Cueto, Leake, and Latos if they are injured or are so ineffective they have to be removed from the rotation. I would say the answer to the first question is he is likely to be a better pitcher than those three, he is more likely to throw 200 leave average innings in 2012 than Arroyo (who could throw 200 bad innings), Chapman (who even if he is good, probably will have a cap around 160 innings), and Bailey (he may be bad, and has missed significant time in 2010 and 2011 due to shoulder injuries).
Jackson is average and he stays healthy, and considering how good Latos and Cueto are likely to be, and the lack of depth beyond Leake, really boasts the staff.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 31, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I do admit his peripherals aren't great
he does walk a few more than I would like, and does not strike out as many batters as his fastball velocity suggests he should.
But his FIP ad xFIP have been fine, in spite of that.
I do not think I would want to give Jackson a long term contract, but there is no such thing as a bad one year contract, even if he sucks, the Reds can DFA him, or ship him away for a spare part and eat his contract, and not be hurt in the long term.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
"there is no such thing as a bad one year contract"
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
bad comparisson
Corey Patterson had been well below league average for a long time. Even though Paterson was really shitty that year, his contract was signed so late it did not divert resources that could have gone to other players. Also it was only a one year deal so the Reds were able to replace Corey Patterson with Willy Taveras in 2009.
Edwin Jackson has been league average for a long time.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Just curious
What makes you call him “league average” and how do you define “long time”…because I don’t really see it. It seems like he’s been up and down his career
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Long time is since 2008, 4 years is a fairly long time in baseball, especially for a starting pitcher
His ERA+ plus in 2008 was 100 and he threw 183.1 innings that season.
In 2009 his ERA+ was 126 and he threw 214 innings.
in 2010 his ERA+ was 95 and he threw 209 innings.
in 2011 his ERA+ was 106 and he threw 199 innings.
Just for comparison’s sake, we consider Bronson Arroyo to be a league average pitcher (before last season).
In 2008 Arroyo’s ERA+ was 93 and he threw 200 innings.
In 2009 Arroyo’s ERA+ was 110 and he threw 220 innings.
In 2010 Arroyo’s ERA+ was 105 and he threw 215 innings.
In 2011 Arroyo’s ERA+ was 77 and he threw 199 innings.
With Cueto and Latos, the Reds have a solid 1 and 2, and Mike Leake is a decent mid rotation type, if Jackson can provide the Reds with 200+ innings, and an ERA+ at or above 95, he will give the Reds exactly what they need. I would say he is more likely to do that than Bailey who has never done that, or Arroyo who is on the wrong side of 35.
Also Jackson will be 28 this year, he wouldn’t be the first mediocre pitcher to put up a career year in a contract year in his late 20’s. I wouldn’t bet on that happening, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he pitches well above his career norms this season. Really I look at him as a signing with little downside, and plenty of upside.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
and now that I made this argument
watch Edwin Jackson throw 140 innings, bounce between the rotation and bullpen and have an ERA over 6.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Might happen.
He’s been very hittable, walks too many, and over the last few years has been one of the worst starting pitchers to not lose his rotation spot. He doesn’t give up many homers, but that wouldn’t necessarily be the case at GABP. I am concerned that these homers – in addition to the frequent base runners he allows – could saturate to a tipping point that will turn his season catastrophic in a hurry.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
I said that because all pitchers are volatile
In 2010 Josh Becket put up an ERA of 5.84, shit happens.
But you are conveniently not looking at his ERA, ERA+, FIP, and xFIP all state, that despite his peripherals he is league average regardless of the ballpark he pitches in.
Of course I would be interested in Slyde’s or Jinaz’s take, as they know much more about what to make of those numbers than I do.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I cite his ERA and ERA+ above, and they show him to be one of the worst starters to keep his job.
I am not sold on your volatility argument based on one season of Josh Beckett, but perhaps Edwin will be awesome this year. Even if he isn’t, he’ll certainly get paid like he is.
Maybe later I’ll take a look at Edwin vs. Bailey, which is really the relevant issue, methinks.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
What he did 5-8 years ago,
as a 20-23 year old who was clearly rushed to the majors well ahead of his development, is not particularly relevant.
The prior three years are generally given some weighting for ideas about what to expect in the coming year. And Jackson has been an average and durable pitcher over that time, with upside still. He would without a doubt improve the Reds rotation if he were signed.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Exactly
He was 19 when he came up.
He became a steady dependable pitcher in 2008.
Also the argument that he is one of the worst pitchers doesn’t jive with the fact that he is league average. There are very few pitching staffs that Edwin Jackson doesn’t improve, because almost every pitching staff, outside of staffs like Phillies had last year, or the Braves had in the 90s (Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, and Neagle), usually relies on one to three guys who are well below league average.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
You haven't made a convincing case that he is league-average.
Also, I am unconvinced his addition would help this staff, as I am not convinced he is better than any of our starters. You state both of these things as facts, but…“that’s just your opinion, man.”
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
an ERA+ over 100 makes him league average!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
and the evidence that makes him better
Homer Bailey has yet to throw 150 big league innings in a season, much less survive a full season in the Majors without getting hurt or demoted, and his career ERA+ is 85, and to be fair since I handicapped Jackson by not including his early seasons when he obviously was rushed and not big league ready, his ERA+ since 2009 is 91.
His xFIP and FIP are pretty similar to Edwin Jackson’s, his FIP since 2009 is 4.41, 3.74, and 4.06. His xFIP in that time is 4.52, 3.75, and 3.77. So Bailey, has a worse ERA+ but a little better FIP and xFIP, but he struggles to stay on the field. Advantage Jackson.
Bronson Arroyo is declining, his K/9 is so low he is barely a viable pitcher at this point, especially considering that he is a fly ball pitcher. Even in 2010 his k/9 was really low. Arroyo can eat an lot of innings and pitch well below average, Jackson can eat a lot of innings and be incredibly average, advantage Jackson.
Chapman has yet to spend a full season in a professional starting rotation, so you cannot really depend on him for anything in 2012. Advantage Jackson.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
That's a pretty good argument.
Of course, I’d expect Edwin to do worse at GABP, and I think he’s at his peak.
Meanwhile, Bailey is only 25 (Edwin is 28) and has a much higher upside (and was also rushed to the majors).
Bailey has also improved in nearly every category each of the last three years. Expecting him to stop improving might be folly. If Bailey could perform at his 2011 rate of a 1.280 WHIP with 2.3 BB/9 and a 7.2 K/BB, he’d be all-star caliber. Among pitchers who started at least 20 G last year, only 13 of them put up numbers at least that good in those important categories. 9 of those players are all-stars and another one was a 21-game winner in 2011.
Of course, there’s the rub: Bailey has been made of glass. But I’d bet that if Homer Bailey starts 25 games this year, he’ll have better numbers than Edwin. But is it a good bet that Edwin will start 10 more games than Bailey, and pitch better while doing it, at a cost differential of about $5-8MM? I might choose to not blow whatever budget remains on average performance when Edwin very well might not outplay the Bailey.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
Also, let's play the "pick the pitcher from the stats" game!
2011:
Player A:
31 GS,
1.437 WHIP,
0.9 HR/9,
1.9 BB/9,
2.33 K/BB,
Age 31,
Bill James 2012:
4.22 ERA, 4.02 FIP
Player B:
31 GS,
1.437 WHIP,
0.7 HR/9,
2.8 BB/9,
2.39 K/BB,
Age 28,
Bill James 2012:
4.24 ERA, 4.03 FIP
Wow, those stats (while cherry-picked) are eerily similar!
Hint: One is willing to sign a minor league deal worth no more than $3.5MM, the other one is a Scott Boros client.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
You know, I've been convinced.
Let’s sign this guy!!
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
Actually, an ERA+ over 100 says that he had an above-average ERA.
Not that he’s a league-average pitcher. It’s a strong indicator, but ERA doesn’t mean everything, and you know that, as you cited FIP.
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
they both are useful
I know ERA+ takes ballpark factors into account, I don’t think FIP or xFIP do, where FIP and xFIP are based entirely on peripherals, were ERA+ is not.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
xFIP regresses HR/FB rate
so, it does adjust for the park a little, though I believe the intention is to adjust “luck” more than park, but park can lead to “luck”
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In the past 3 years
Jackson has a better GB%, BB rate, WHIP (despite worse BABIP), ERA-, FIP, and HR rate than Homer Bailey, while pitching 268.2 more innings.
That he is better than Arroyo…needs an argument? He is all but guaranteed to be a more valuable starter than Chapman in 2012, I think. Depending on how high you are on Leake, he’s as good or better most likely.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
"while pitching 268.2 more MAJOR LEAGUE innings."
Homer’s thrown 143 IP in the minors in that time.
Why? Because he’s not that great of a pitcher right now, and that’s the comparison we’re giving to Jackson.
Jackson is exactly what his market has dictated he is: if you need him as your 2/3 SP, you’re probably not a very good team, so you shouldn’t pay him 3/30; if you need him as your 4/5, you’re a good team looking to get over the top, but that would mean he’s worth 1yr/6mill, which is much less than he wants.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 1, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if he is as valuable as Cueto next year
Yes, Jackson is what the market dictates he is, compared to all the other FA starters that were on the market this year.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
the "1000 IP in 7 years" thing bars a lot of far worse pitchers, to be fair.
But yeah, I’m not interested.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
ZIPS projects him to have an above average ERA+ and nearly 200 innings.
If Walt can sign him for less than $10M, I’d be completely behind the move.
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by Grahamophone on Jan 31, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
There is a bidding war currently and his agent is Scott Boros.
ugh
"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan
All the evidence says there is no bidding war.
Most people “in the know” think Jackson is going to take a one year deal, and hope that he will get a better multi-year deal next year.
For what it is worth Ryan Madson is a Scott Boras client as well.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Oswalt and Jackson would do different things.
Oswalt would be brought in with the hope that he could form a three headed ace monster with Latos and Cueto, but the understanding that he probably won’t throw more than 150 innings.
Jackson would be brought into be a steady, boring, forgettable, league average innings eater like Arroyo was until last year.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
from the sidebar
Dirk Hayhurst is going to Italy? I didn’t know they played baseball in Italy.
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Wait until he finds out it's
a bocce ball league.
by Joe Nolan's Neckbeard on Jan 31, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Piazza just stood up really fast and knocked back the chair he was sitting in
He’s shouting violently at you, shaking his fists and waving his arms. You can’t understand what he’s saying though because his mouth is full of spaghetti.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 31, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
that-sa racist-o!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the evidence is quite whopping.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
This might be my favorite version of this, ever
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ehhh...fanabla!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 1, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think they also focused on the Netherlands
I think Italy and the Netherlands were the only two European countries represented in the World Baseball Classic.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Yeah, most of the Italy WBC team came from the italian league.
Well you know, plus Dan Serafini.
I think it’s a pretty small league/short season though,
Aren't most of the Netherlands players actually from the West Indies?
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Andruw Jones, Sidney Ponson, MARIEKSON!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 1, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
They had a team in the World Baseball Classic.
But if I remember correctly, it seemed to be mostly staffed by Italian-American Major Leaguers.
by the finest muffins on Jan 31, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Former Reds first round draft pick
Dustin Moseley avoided arbitration with the Padres.
I didn’t realize he was still arb eligible.
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Another great pitcher drafted by Jim Bowden.
There was a time he was one of the best pitchers in the Reds farm system.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
And that's supposed to be good?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
nah
He’s making fun of Leatherpants.
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Jesus, I'm off the mark
/not Jch’d
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
It's February tomorrow!
Pitchers and catchers report in 18 days!!!!!
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by BubbaFan on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
and it was 60 degrees today and I went to the park!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
it was 56F here today
I was seriously tempted to play hooky. It’s supposed to be even nicer tomorrow.
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i grilled my dinner.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Jesus
He must have succumbed within just a few days of starting out. That’s rough.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 1, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Here in Brazil
there’s no, absolutely any baseball culture. Nothing. I’m still to find a baseball to buy here in my city. Bats, gloves, anything. Only one friend of mine watches baseball games more frequently (via espn brasil, once a week during regular season) and, except some valuable pitches, I have a hard time watching baseball. The thing is so obtuse here, most practitioners are from japanese descent. Once, in Pan Am games, few years ago, when I didn’t knew what was the purpose of baseball, there were tiny japanese eyes on all bases, wearing yellow and seeing balls fly away. Turrible, turrible.
Recently, I discovered a brazilian pitcher, a White Sox prospect, André Rienzo. He had to move to Dominican Republic to play serious baseball, before joining the Sox farm. But, except him, I can’t see nothing coming out Brazil to milb ou mlb.
by FernandoRF on Feb 2, 2012 12:40 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Soccer must just dominate down there
but it is odd that baseball isn’t very big in South America, excluding Venezuela
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Colombia a little bit
and Central America/Caribbean obviously
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
which is weird, because Venezuela historically sucks at soccer.
It’s like an either/or thing.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Only soccer
I watched almost every single sports news on tv during the World Series. They don’t even mention it. But, when a pitch hits a dove, they show it during all the week. Stupid.
Soccer is fine, but sometimes it got ridiculous. Offseason ended two weeks ago, but the coverage is so intense, you think it’s deep in the season. But it isn’t just with baseball. Except soccer, practicing any other sport is pretty tough (volley got some respect, tho, but just because the national team is absurdly awesome). Swimming, track and field, weightlifting, gymnastics, rugby, fighting in general, etc.
About Venezuela, it’s curious. Recently, they got better and better, almost suddenly. Both teams and the national team, the ‘vino tinto’ (red wine). They’re strong candidates to play ’14 Fifa WC, their first world cup.
Aaaaaand about baseball,
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