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2012 Community Prospect Rankings: Wunderbar! Donald Lutz is 18th on the list

DAYTON, OH - JULY 9:  Donald Lutz #39 of the Dayton Dragons and a young fan take to the field during the game between the Dayton Dragons and the South Bend Silver Hawks on July 9, 2011 at Fifth Third Field in Dayton, Ohio.  The Dragons defeated the Silver Hawks 4-1.  (Photo by John Grieshop/Getty Images)

Donald Lutz sneaks into the top 20 after a really solid season on that stacked Dayton team in 2011. If you don't know his story by now, he was born in Germany and didn't start playing baseball until he was 15, got discovered in the European junior championships, and the Reds signed him from there. He'll likely take his .850 OPS to Bakersfield in 2012.

Just a recap of where we're at so far, with 7 spots to go:

1. Devin Mesoraco
2. Zack Cozart
3. Billy Hamilton
4. Daniel Corcino
5. Neftali Soto
6. Robert Stephenson
7. Yorman Rodriguez
8. Todd Frazier
9. Henry Rodriguez
10. Didi Gregorius
11. Tony Cingrani
12. J.C. Sulbaran
13. Denis Phipps
14. Kyle Lotzkar
15. David Vidal
16. Juan Duran
17. Tucker Barnhart
18. Donald Lutz

Same choices, vote now.

Star-divide

Junior Arias, 3B, 20, BA-UR, Sickels-#19
(Billings) .251/.320/.452/.772, 8 HR, 30 RBI

Pros: Toolsy. Will be a monster at the plate if he can get his mechanics together and figures out how to hit. Time is on his side.
Cons: Still really raw. Went up a rookie ball level and numbers didn't improve. Does not walk.

Tim Crabbe, RHP, 24, BA-UR, Sickels-#14
(Dayton) 3.65 ERA, 24.2 IP, 25 K, 7 BB, 1.17 WHIP
(Bakersfield) 3.41 ERA, 111.0 IP, 123 K, 46 BB, 1.29 WHIP

Pros: Two above average pitches, profiles as a solid reliever. Put up good numbers in the Cally League, which is a pitcher's nightmare.
Cons: Needs a 3rd pitch if he wants to be a starter. Kind of old for his level, so needs to go to AA and pitch well.

Amir Garrett, LHP, 19, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
No pro stats yet

Pros: Throws 96. Athletic doesn't even begin to describe him. Chapman-esque delivery.
Cons: Is a basketball player. Very, very raw talent. Needs secondary pitches.

Chris Manno, LHP, 23, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Hagerstown) 1.04 ERA, 43.1 IP, 69 K, 15 BB, 0.81 WHIP
(Bakersfield) 0.53 ERA, 17.0 IP, 31 K, 6 BB, 0.71 WHIP

Pros: Amazing numbers since being traded, especially for the league environment. Deceptive delivery, with major league bullpen potential.
Cons: Below average fastball velocity. Secondary pitches need work.

Gabriel Rosa, 3B, 18, BA-UR, Sickels-#17
(AZL Reds) .245/.314/.406/.719, 2 HR, 10 RBI

Pros: Good speed on the basepaths, and scouts love his plate approach.
Cons: Rookie debut wasn't spectacular, still a very raw talent.

Josh Smith, RHP, 24, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Dayton) 2.97 ERA, 142.1 IP, 166 K, 33 BB, 1.09 WHIP

Pros: Struck out a lot of hitters last year, was the ace for a playoff team.
Cons: According to most scouting reports, doesn't really project as anything other than a back-of-the-rotation starter at best. Low 90s fastball, and his out pitch is a breaking ball that could get exploited by better hitters at higher levels.

Ryan Wright, 2B, 22, BA-UR, Sickels-UR
(Billings) .298/.348/.522/.870, 7 HR, 32 RBI
(AZL Reds) .318/.375/.636/1.011, 1 HR, 5 RBI

Pros: Showed good power potential. Should advance fast through the system. Versatile in the field.
Cons: Could walk more. Attended a school that jch likes.

Poll
Who is the Reds #19 prospect for 2012?
Junior Arias
19 votes
Tim Crabbe
19 votes
Amir Garrett
54 votes
Chris Manno
30 votes
Gabriel Rosa
49 votes
Josh Smith
43 votes
Ryan Wright
16 votes

230 votes | Poll has closed

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I mean, Garett, I guess. Whatever.

But I would strongly recommend adding Buckey and Waldrop to the list.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 27, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

Amir, then Ryan LaMarre

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Jan 29, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

6-3, 235 lbs

This picture makes him look like an absolute giant.

by Gapper on Jan 27, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Kind of cool

The only picture of him in SBN’s system

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by BK on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

For being a bottom third system in the league, I sure feel like it's still pretty deep.

More I think about it, the more I feel like the only real prospect we lost this off-season was Yonder. The rest are extremely unknown quantities to me. And we are down this low and there’s a bunch of high ceiling guys. And 3 top 60 draft picks. I like it.

by jsl413 on Jan 27, 2012 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

I feel like it's deep with a strange kind of mediocrity

There are a bunch of guys after #9 who have very real chances of making the majors, but their chances of being starters don’t seem very good to me. I guess because so many are so far away, it’s really hard for me to judge right now.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

John Sickels' take on the system:

21) Cincinnati Reds: Heart of this system torn out by Mat Latos trade but there is enough at the lower levels that I think they can recharge

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

kind of what I was thinking when I was looking at this list.

No top end talent is really close, but there are a number of interesting guys in the lower levels of the system.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 27, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Mesocraco and Cozart are graduating

and look like they can be serviceable role players right out of the gate. Those guys are #1 and #2 on the list, so I would say there is plenty of our top-end talent at the ready.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I forgot about Meso when I wrote that

Cozart has a high floor but a low ceiling. I think he can be a useful shortstop, but he probably won’t be an exciting player.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 27, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

We can see that you're excited, #PutSomePantsOnDamnit

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a massive erection

Really? Yes, I do. Um…I’m sorry, it’s the…it’s the pleats. Mm. It’s actually an optical illusion. It’s the pattern on the pants. It’s not flattering in the crotchal region. I’m actually taking them back right now. Taking them back to the pants store. Well I’m gonna go walk it off. Don’t act like you’re not impressed!

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 27, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

...

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jan 27, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome board! We'll be departing soon...

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You get one of those when you get your doctorate.

And that’s when they have a party for you! Yay!

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That chick gets around.

Here she is with the NastyHook.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 27, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So you are saying your sister is less of a slut

because she was with Pedro and Bronson at the same time.

Where I am from DP from 2 pitchers is worse than partying twice.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 27, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because they're pitchers...

…doesn’t mean they don’t know how to score.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that might be expecting too much

He’s never really been a OBP kind of guy, and 20 HR would be more than he ever hit in the minors.

I agree about the defense. His arm is kind of weak, but he makes up for it in his quick transfer from glove to throwing hand. He’s got decent footspeed, too.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

He has such a high floor because his value is tied up in skills that stay pretty static. He’ll play strong defense and steal a few bases.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of XBH..

A Tigers fan just told me that no lefty has ever hit more than 14 HR in a single season at Comerica.

So is there a way to gauge how many doubles Prince Fielder might hit there over the next few years? Is there an NL park that plays like Comerica?

How do you do this stuff? Or better yet, can someone do it for me? I gotta get the house cleaned and dinner going before the boy and I get out to see ’Hugo."

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Petco is similar to Comerica for lefties, I imagine

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

5 HR in 96 career PAs between Petco and Comerica: 1 HR per 19.2 PAs

102 / 2048 in all other career PAs away from MIller Park: 1 per 20.0 PAs.

(123 / 2066 in all MIller Park PAs, by the way. That’s 1 HR per 16.8 PAs so he’s gonna miss hitting there.)

So if you figure he’s averaging 680ish PAs per season… [340PAs at 1per 19.2] + [340PAs at 1 per 20.0] = ~35

So… 35 HRs is about what you might expect from Fielder this year (based on this unscientific study). And that’s about what he’s averaged per season over the last four years. (His 50 HR season was five years ago BTW.)

And ‘Hugo’ was pretty cool.

And thanks, KC.

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, account for the better-at-home phenomenon and he could definitely still be a 40-HR guy

but Miguel Cabrera had a major adjustment period to Comerica/AL play, and he’s a better hitter than Fielder. I wouldn’t worry about Fielder’s hitting, honestly. Not for 4 or 5 years anyway.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 28, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea what the lineup will look like.

Ludwick’s a great #2, but Heisey and Frazier aren’t. Rolen’s at 4, and you have two rookies to throw in the back there around a dude who struck out 200 times.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 27, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the OBP is likely to go down

It’s all batting average, and I think his BA will go down (just because that’s what usually happens when a player moves up to the big leagues).

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by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

My unscientific prediction is that Cozart will hit .250/.310/.400

Considering his plus defense at a premium position I am completely okay with that slash line as well.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 27, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I'd take the under on that

Actually, I think his average might be higher, but his OBP and SLG lower.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Cozart will hit .272 in 2012

Mark.
That.
Motherfucker.
Down.

/AshCozartLoveChild

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

A fine guess

very fine

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a minute....are we counting BA as a meaningful stat now?

I’m getting sabremetrically confused…

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 28, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

After reviewing this for the past fewdays I'm weighing at .266

That is if Dusty has the good sense to bat him 2nd in front of Votto.

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 28, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It has a lot less of the high-profile, can't miss guys than most systems

But I think this system has a lot more “low floor, high ceiling” guys than most. Which makes it even more fun to follow, in my opinion. There isn’t a player we’ve seen that doesn’t have at least a chance to be a big leaguer, and we couldn’t say that 5 years ago at this point.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 27, 2012 11:03 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Remember when Chris Denorfia was our top prospect?

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 27, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

whoa...ick

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

There are some guys we've voted into the top 20 that I don't think will be succesful MLB-ers.

But that’s not to say there’s no chance. Think they’ll probably draft some college, high floor guys this year since the high-ceiling part of the farm is seemingly stacked.

by jsl413 on Jan 27, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a believer in Grandal.

Forgot Boxberger, but I like the ’pen we have more than the ’pen with him.

by jsl413 on Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Arredondo got 2 years, $2 million

That’s a lot more than he asked for.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

he only asked for $875k

Basically, he wanted to be paid as much as Paul Janish.

Not sure why his agent asked for so little. The general consensus was that he was worth $1 million a year, and apparently, the Reds agreed.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Who was the guy a few years back

who submitted an arb figure lower than what the team did?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Bob Feller did

Yahoo’s Big League Stew wrote about it last week.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Jan 27, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically speaking, Feller asked for a pay cut during off-season negotiations...

…while he was completely under team control due to The Reserve Clause. Feller retired after 1956, before arbitration first made its way into MLB in 1974.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

this is knew (from reading the article)

i was just giving an example of a player telling the team they aren’t worth as much as they used to be, or don’t deserve a raise, for whatever reason.

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Jan 27, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Just clarifying. Good link, good share.

Nice pants.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

nice shoes, too

Brevity is the soul of wit.

by Heeringa on Jan 28, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It worked so nicely mith Miguel Cairo

why deviate from success?

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

think they just scratched out Miggie's name and put in Arredondo's?

And probably spelled it wrong a few times, so it’s x-out after x-out?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 27, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps he and the Reds knew this deal was going to be done, so he did not really give a serious number for arbitration

The Reds did that with Aaron Harang in 2007, they gave a not very serious number in arbitration and signed him a few days later.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 27, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Great deal.

I think Arredondo easily outperforms that. Very team-friendly contract.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

$2 mil for two arb years? Ka-ching.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I had ice cream for breakfast!

And I don’t care who knows it!

by poojols on Jan 27, 2012 10:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm jelly

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Do not Juan.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

WOOOOHOOOO!!!

I was soooo scared that Dusty would give him 700+ PAs .

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

one-year deal worth $1.25MM

That’s pretty cheap.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone should rejoice that this happened.

I consider this deal a success for the Reds

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 27, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad they didn’t take this guy too…

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 27, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Keppinger would have cost more than Theriot

Keppy earned $2.3 million, and would have gotten a raise via arbitration.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He just signed with Tampa

I don’t think the salary figure it out yet, though. I’ll wager that it’s no more than $1.5 mil.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

even if it is

There is no way they could have paid Keppinger that little without nontendering him first.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

I’m guessing they tried to re-sign Kepp, but he flat-out wanted to go to Tampa instead.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty close

Keppy’s getting $1.525 million.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay!

Juan Pierre AND Ryan Theriot off the market the same day?!?

Helllooooooo Friday!!

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Why does Jay Jaffe at Baseball Prospectus

always say WARP and not WAR? What’s up with the superfluous P?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 27, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

BP's proprietary value stat is WARP

“Wins Above Replacement Player”, which is not to be confused with Baseball-Reference’s WAR and FanGraph’s WAR (Wins Above Replacement). They use different formulas to calculate it. It’s kinda like how Coke, Pepsi, and RC are basically the same thing, but built differently.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's gang up on Scrabbles!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This meme is just so versatile

it might never go away

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Like Todd Frazier.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Red Reporter: This meme might never go away

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

awesome

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 30, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, what kind of dummy says things like that?

A #StupidScrabbles, that’s who!

I bet he thinks filet mignon and meatloaf are basically the same thing too!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

#AttackCredsScrabblesDay

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 27, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Seinfeldrec!

Also, one of my favorites of the meme.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

BK is a King of the Hill fan? Ummm…

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

it’s one of his favorites.

he’s also a seinfeld fan.

outside of footie on the telly, he has pretty good taste in shows.

by 'tHan on Jan 27, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Clint Dempsey and Fulham are playing Landon Donovan and Everton today at 3pm

That would be kinda cool if they weren’t two EPL teams I don’t give a shit about and if they were playing on the same team and that team was the USMNT and they were playing in the World Cup Final.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

All I heard there was "blah blah blah, fish and chips, big ben, freshen ya drink guvnah?"

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

acronym overload!

i kind of knew enough about his post to know it’s never going to happen

by 'tHan on Jan 27, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is funny

This just came across the SBN ticker.

I knew Lionel Messi was young, but just 24? Good Lord.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Good lord...not Jerry!!!

Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.

by Madville on Jan 27, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Coke, Pepsi, and RC.....the same thing?

I’m going to need you to hand over your key to the executive restroom and GET THE HELL OUT OF MY RED REPORTER.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand that they are different formulas.

But I thought the acronyms all stood for the same thing. It just looks weird to me with the P at the end.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 27, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think WARP predates WAR

And that there was some annoyance on BP’s part for the use of a very similar sounding acronym.

Also, I caught Jaffe saying on MLBN that he can’t get behind Trammell for the HOF because BP’s new defensive metric doesn’t think he was all that great. Heyman responded that he was uncomfortable with reevaluating Trammell’s defense twenty years after the fact, and for once I agreed with him.

by ken on Jan 27, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

WARP is the old VORP, yes?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 27, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I could be wrong, but I thought VORP was first

VORP never had a defensive component. It might’ve had a baserunning component but I’m not sure.

by ken on Jan 27, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot all about VORP!

I’m always thinking, “Damn, WAR hasn’t always been WAR has it? But what the hell was it before it was WAR?”

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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

We'd probably have to ask the Romans

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Jan 27, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

As usual, yours was better

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Jan 27, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm pretty sure VORP started all this

unless it was Bill James’ WAY old-school runs created. Actually, it was probably that which led to VORP.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't taste the same at all

but they are the same in that they are both colas.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Allow me to belabor the point.

ten cans of Pepsi + ten cans of Coke + ten cans of RC + a blindfold + a thirsty cola connoisseur = whatever

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No, because RC is just GROSS

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 27, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong

Coke is the best stuff in the universe, but RC is the only suitable substitute.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't eat meat, your opinion doesn't count

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 27, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

jch, Delegate for MeatMunchers Local 57.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

not the same at all

Coke has a hint of vanilla and a battery-acid kick Pepsi lacks. Pepsi is sweeter and has lemon notes instead of vanilla.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If your coke has battery acid in it, you really need to find a new dealer

And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 27, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I find Pepsi has too much Phosphorus....

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jan 27, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Me play joke

me put peepee in your Coke

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 27, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I refuse to rec this

because it appears the man in front is wearing a cub hat.

There is no need to bring the likes of those losers around these #winning threads.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 27, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It was between that gif and these two:

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jan 27, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have gone Trek

Random black guys always died on there

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 27, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Star Trek was racist!

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jan 27, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

the door opening one is a personal favorite of mine

but I enjoy the unmoved white dude inthe background of the Trek.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 27, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

it pisses me off when I am at a bar and I order a rum and Coke, and they try to claim a rum and Pepsi is the same thing

Pepsi and rum were not the official drink of the Spanish-American War.

Cuba reference, drink (preferably a Cuba Libre!)

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 27, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

What exactly is your point of reference?

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Things usually taste the way they smell

and since you showed up, we all know how shit smells.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 27, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not Christmas.

That’s their Bleach and Ammonia Day tree.

I used to just love Bleach and Ammonia Day.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT

THE STATUE OF LIBERTY IS ONE OF THE WEEPING ANGELS. WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE.

by crolfer on Jan 27, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

D-Train doesn't give Pierre a very ringing endorsement:

Dontrelle Willis @D_Train35 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Just talked to my boy Juan P . One of the teammates in baseball! #phillies

by crolfer on Jan 27, 2012 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

I don't disagree.

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

"uber-sticky"

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

"twee"

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

nuggety!

One ‘T’ or two? One, right?

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 27, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

"dilapidated"

"Prediction is difficult, especially about the future." - BubbaFan

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 27, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What does Gabbo Rosa have to around here?

Get a Simpsons-inspired nickname?

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 27, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

You still have Amir Garrett listed as a RHP.

Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean

by sexsalad on Jan 27, 2012 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

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