Red Reposter rings in the new year
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 8:00 AM EST
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Print- No news on the contract fronts for BP, Coco
The Reds offered Francisco Cordero a one-year deal, which he's mulling over. Fay guesses it's for $7M. Meanwhile, the team and Brandon Phillips' agent should resume talking this month for the first time since the Winter Meetings and since the Detroit bloggerati have considered a Tigers' move for El Beeperino. - Sheldon has a mid-winter update on the state of the franchise
Among other issues, he talks about the situation in LF: The Reds still have a move to make in this area, but whoever is added, he would likely form a platoon with right-handed hitter Chris Heisey. Complicating things a little is that Heisey is actually stronger vs. right-handed pitchers (.288 lifetime) than lefties (.180). If the Reds can't get someone of note, Heisey will have a great chance to make his case to be an everyday player. - This guy thinks the Reds are the team to beat in the Central
Also, over the weekend I saw the talking heads on MLBN give lines for various teams. I think they set it at 85 wins for the Reds. I'd take the over, but it's close. - The Blog Red Machine takes a close look at Homer
One aspect about Homer Bailey that's escaped my attention is his increased strand rate. It's easy to dismiss for sample size reasons a one-year fluke, but Homer has now stranded at least 71% of runners for three straight seasons. This follows strand rates in the low 60s for his first two years. This indicates a marked improvement in pitching from the stretch and perhaps better mound presence. - If you've wondered about the Reds' cable deal in the wake of the Angels' free agency frenzy,
Fay reports here that the current deal with Fox Sports Ohio runs through 2018. The team can't disclose the dollars involved, but Fay believes it's in the neighborhood of $10M a year. That's pretty bad. As reference points, the Tigers receive four times that amount, and the Angels' new deal will pay them $150M a year. While the Reds obviously play in a small media market, they still draw good ratings (the fifth best in baseball last year according to the article, though I assume that's a percentage of the market rather than the absolute number of viewers). We frequently talk about the dangers of teams offering players long-term deals, but the Reds' current cable deal is costing them much more than any player contract ever could.
- John Erardi posts his HOF ballot
I won't keep you in suspense - he votes for Barry Larkin, Fred McGriff, Jeff Bagwell, Edgar Martinez, Larry Walker, Dale Murphy, Alan Trammell and Tim Raines. I probably wouldn't vote for McGriff, and I'd have to give Edgar, Walker, and Murphy all another look. If you're wondering where Erardi stands on PEDs issue, which will be prominent next year: "I've read a lot about the ‘‘sanctimonious'' baseball writers who are trying to (at least goes the argument) turn the Hall of Fame into their own personal Camelot, i.e. only knights in shining armor allowed. I'm not a Camelot guy, but I am a Valhalla guy." - Breaking: Bench still the best that ever was
BtB reviews the games best Catchers by weighted WAR (wWAR), which is essentially WAR with special considerations for great seasons and postseason heroics. It's an interesting tool to help weight peak and "fame" over career totals. According to this metric, Bench is still the king of this mountain. Pudge Rodriguez is close to but too old to make a serious run. - Joe Poz revisits the MVPs, even before they were awarded
Lots of great stuff in Joe's review of prior MVP votes where the award winner OPS'd worse than 90% of the league OPS leader. On the '73 MVP won by no. 14: Rose was such a force of nature that people seemed perfectly willing to overlook his sudden, and rather shocking, decline in power. From 1965 through '71 - a time for pitchers - Rose hit double-figure homers every year and slugged a rather robust .460. Starting in 1972, though, he became a different hitter, a slasher who cut down on his strikeouts and hit a lot of ground balls and line drives.... In 1973 he led the league in hitting (.338) and punched out 230 hits. It was, unquestionably, a terrific year. But it was limited, too. It seems almost certain that Joe Morgan, who hit 21 more homers, stole 57 more bases, walked 45 more times , had a better year despite hitting only .290. But nobody was going to see that in 1973 - Joe Morgan the announcer wouldn't have voted for Joe Morgan the player ("Wait, he hit only .290?"). - Mr. Redlegs - a very special sesquicentennial
'mache has marked the 150th "birthday" of Mr. Redlegs with a long-overdue biography. It's factually suspect, I suspect.
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I was fortunate enough to have some input into Erardi's ballot
We’ve developed a tradition over the last couple of years of getting together with some of his friends over the holidays and hashing out the list. Without the get togethers, Tim Raines likely isn’t on his ballot. Edgar Martinez definitely isn’t on his ballot without our input. Probably our most interesting conversations though are about guys that deserve to remain on the ballot rather than just guys that belong in the HOF. Walker, McGriff, and Murphy are all borderline cases, but they all have cases. Since each voter gets 10 spots on their ballot, Erardi is comfortable with giving those borderline guys a shot to remain on the ballot a little longer. Of course, if they got elected, they’d be far from doing damage to the HOF’s reputation.
As for the steroids stuff, it’s interesting to have the conversations with someone who has the responsibility of voting. I’m looking forward to see what stances he takes over the next couple of years. Erardi’s smart and open-minded, but he takes the responsibility seriously (even if his vote is only worth about 0.2%). We’re lucky to have him writing in Cincinnati.
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I was pondering the solidity of Eradri's ballot
this explains a great deal of it.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I don't agree with his PEDs approach, but certainly apppreciate him taking his vote so seriously
Which most but not all voters do.
I favor peak over career, so I can see the arguments for Murphy, Walker, and Edgar. To me, McGriff falls in the tier just below the 1B HOFers with plenty of other guys like Olerud, Hernandez, and Mattingly. But he has a case.
Interesting comments about the next commish at the end of his ballot. I don’t think most people realize how old Selig is (77).
I'mma have to appropriate his line re: PEDs
I’m not a Camelot guy, but I am a Valhalla guy.
That is why this guy is a professional writer.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I like the line, but I have no idea what it means.
Does it mean he’ll vote for PED users when they’re dead?
by Brian B on Jan 4, 2012 7:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The mythical figures of Camelot are known for their chivalry, as he describes
The mythical figures of Valhalla are known for their badassness.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 4, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, I have to actually read the article?
by Brian B on Jan 4, 2012 9:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Norse Gods
bad. ass.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 4, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone who doesn't vote for Raines should have their voting rights taken away
Especially considering how work stoppages impacted his career, he was an amazing ballplayer.
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but, he did drugs
and drugs are bad.
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I wonder how many BBWAA voters did drugs
Pass the dutchie!
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Aha! They're hypocrites!
Which means Raines should get in!
I love the hypocrite card.
by Brian B on Jan 4, 2012 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we have had this conversation before, my appologizes
who do you feel about Olerud and the Hall of Fame, Slyde?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
"We’ve developed a tradition over the last couple of years of getting together with some of his friends over the holidays and hashing out the list. "
“Did him, did him, haven’t done him, oh who HASN’T done him, did him, haven’t done him….”
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by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Happy New Year
I wonder if Sheldon knows what he’s talking about. He says Chapman might be sent to Louisville, when Jocketty said he’ll be put in the pen if he can’t cut it as a starter. Sheldon also says Janish might win the starting SS job. I’m thinking it will probably be Ryan Theriot or someone like him if Cozart falters.
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He also talks about a LF platoon as if it's something Dusty is known to do.
I too often wonder if Sheldon knows what he’s talking about.
yeah
Dusty has said he doesn’t like platoons. Surely Walt noticed that Gomes, rather than being part of a platoon, ended up the everyday LFer. I can’t see him going the platoon route again.
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I wouldn't rule it out
He said he didn’t want to platoon Gomes but he might do it with guys that are less established. He’s done it before.
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I think the not platooning Gomes
was more of a mancrush on Jonny than anything else.
And as much as Dusty loves the knifey-spooney nonsense, a platoon is right up his alley. I think what he has shown is that his platoon won’t be a traditional L/R one, but will be based on a number of factors that only make sense to him, like temperature, ballpark, opposing pitcher’s favorite color, and lunar position in the sky.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well, Dusty has suggested a color and temperature based platoon
/race reporter’d
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 11:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He'd have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those meddling Democrats
/Scooby Political Reporter’d
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Last 3 seasons
Reds have ranked last, 2nd to last, and last in the NL in platoon advantage percentage (% of at bats where hitter has platoon advantage). In 2008, they were middle of the pack, but they haven’t done much platooning since Dusty’s been here. Not that he won’t, but it doesn’t seem like a priority for him.
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by Slyde on Jan 2, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not having a LH C or LH middle INF contributed heavily
The Cards have three SH in their lineup, I’d like to see the reds get a SH someday!
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Hamilton'd
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Victorino'd
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
In the spirit of the new year, I won't crush your dreams on that one.
Also, we’ll pour one out for Grandal.
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"Jan 2013 - Make a clearer calendar of dates"
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
terrio 'the riot'...
i’m just not in favor of bringing the former cub and cardinal here just now…not with the array on the roster we have at this time…the reds have more than enough infielders to put a good, effective, and possibly fantastic infield out there already, with a number of solid backups…and just about all of them can field the ball better than ryan ‘the riot’…geez, i love how that name just breaks down into something so thought provoking and cute…but really, the reds now have only 3 outfielders on the roster with serious major league experience, and no one else who really looks like he might take that ‘step up’…they seem to be looking at frazier as a possible fourth OFer, and denis phipps took his game up a bit last year down on the farm…but to bring theriot in, probably have to pay him pretty well, too, i just don’t see it…doesn’t make sense budgetwise or operationally on the field…just no need, and it would be an almost guaranteed thing where what he could bring to the reds would be nothing they don’t already have…
I think
Jocketty is going to sign a left fielder (a “Gomes type”) and a veteran SS (a Ryan Theriot type). Yes, we have plenty of infielders, but only two real shortstops, both unproven as MLB starters. Even if one of them was a proven stud, Jocketty would want another SS, for depth.
If this were a rebuilding year, the Reds might be willing to sink or swim with Cozart, or take the risk that they can find someone during the season if needed. But if the plan is to win now, no way are they going to take that risk.
I wonder if Orlando Cabrera is still available…
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Suggestion
rather than ellipses, use paragraph breaks. So much easier to read that way.
Also, Denis Phipps is not a solution to anything at the MLB level. His improvement was almost solely due to a ridiculous batting average on balls in play (.446) last season. His career number of .300 prior to last year was much more realistic, as is his .250/.308/.377 line prior to last year. I wouldn’t expect to hear his name much in the future.
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Agreed on Phipps.
And Alcory, you have some good thoughts, but your comments are almost unreadable because of formatting. Simple periods, capitalization, and paragraphs will go a long way, especially if you are writing a lengthy comment.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree wit yoos guys
But it is kinda funny that the guys talking about the readability of comments are the ones who normally litter their own comments with wOBA, fWAR, wRC+, and BABIP!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You guys don't like the Larry King stream-of-consciousness type thing going on?
I don’t really mind; in fact it’s even a bit refreshing at times. However, if the post is any longer than the one above, yeah, it needs paragraphs and punctuation I’d say.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Fair enough. I should talk more about xFlip I guess.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I predict Mat Latos will lead the 2012 Reds in xFLIP.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Who was the last Red that was a Grade A Asshole?
Danny Graves?
John Denny?
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Yep. And I'd take 1990 vintage Dibble back in a second.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
/2010 Chapman'd
Also, is anyone else absolutely fine with Coco back on a one year deal? Because I definitely am.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 2, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I'd much rather see Marshall given a chance to close
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
At the supposed $7 million
I don’t care for it, but it would help the team
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QED
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 2, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
He. Was. Never. A. Red.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
Everyone was on vacation!
Punch was served
by DerekH91 on Jan 2, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Eh, I don't care one way or another.
If he pitches like an ace, will it really bother people of he’s kind of a dick?
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's probably true.
We’ll just have to invent a new stat and award that is based on abrasiveness and arrogance.
I think we’ll call it xCred
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm very strongly considering changing it.
The question is to what. I thought about following your lead and doing the apostrophe thing.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
xFLIPEMTHEBIRD.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
RR would have no problems if Chris Carpenter had been on the roster for the last 8 years.
I'm going to start my own Reds blog with blackjack and hookers, in fact forget the blog.
by justin007000 on Jan 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really want pitcher that blows his top every once in awhile
And a manager that does that too. That’s what drives me crazy about Dusty is that he doesn’t get kicked out enough…..ESPECIALLY during losing streaks!!! That drives me fucking nuts.
I want St. Louis to boo him everytime he pitches.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wish Dusty pitched every 3rd day
just to brush back bitches
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This comment is unreadable.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Meh!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
No way.
Have you been following Twitter?
Mat isn’t even going to lead his own household in xFLIP.
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Hell..
Balls might lead that household
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I remember a day when people had names as their pseudonyms
Now everybody’s got goddam sentences for a name. What the fuck is this world coming to?
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I nominate anyone who does this to be referred to as tl;dr, followed by a unique state-chosen 8 digit identifier number
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 2, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
One big pile of Middle Age Central American end-of-the-world Poo.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I remember a day when people had nyms that weren't pseudo
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
i don't know what the chicago red eye is, but this blurb amused me
- CM Punk won the 2011 Chicago Sports Stud of the Year award from the Chicago RedEye. White Sox DH Adam Dunn was the Chicago Sports Dud of the Year.
you probably do not care that much
But the Red Eye is a free paper that tends to be found at L stations and busy bus stops. Sort of a you can read this on the train for free so you have an excuse not to make eye contact with anyone.
I'm going to start my own Reds blog with blackjack and hookers, in fact forget the blog.
by justin007000 on Jan 2, 2012 10:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You must be new around here.
Hi, hello, and welcome!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
The campaign for Mod of the Year 2012 has begun....
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
by darthmom on Jan 2, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Chicks dig the long ball
(Actually, I don’t think that’s true, but this isn’t LGT and I needed a title.)
Been looking over the year that was at Hit Tracker Online. In 2010, Votto hit more home runs, but Bruce hit them farther.
In 2011, Bruce hit more home runs than Votto, and still hit them farther. Jay hit 32 home runs, while Votto hit 29. Bruce hit 6 no-doubters, Votto 4.
This is a bit of a dropoff. Last year, Bruce hit 10 no-doubters, good for 2nd in the NL, behind only Adam Dunn.
Then there’s the list of longest home runs. Hide the kids! Second on the list, behind only Prince Fielder, is one Juan Francisco. His longest home run, at 482 feet, is 26 feet longer than the next Red on the list (Jay Bruce). Not bad for a 24-year-old who didn’t get all that much playing time.
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roar absolutely destroyed that ball he hit 482 feet. it was a monster shot
too bad that homerun counts the same as one that just skims over the fence.
No matter how the seasons have ended
The last couple have been pretty amazing for strictly baseball-is-best-for-9-year-old-boys feats. Juan Francisco hitting a home run OUT of the ball park. Aroldis Chapman throwing a baseball 105 mph, faster than anyone’s ever thrown one. Joey Votto winning an MVP. Jay Bruce and Brandon Phillips seeming like your best friends on your favorite team. The goofiness of Bronson’s pitching motion and hair. Dontrelle Willis. This is a great team and a fun one to be a fan of.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 2, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
CMM's walk off to cap off a come back on opening day will always have a special place for me because I was at the game.
That was easily the best in-person baseball experience for me. The clinch game is probably my favorite overall.
i was at the clinch game with my dad, my daughter & several fellow red reporters
turned out to be a great last minute decision to go.
And we have like 14 mascots.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
I can totally see END putting up a Trumbo-esque line next year.
.250/.300/.480 or so, with 20 some HR.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
if roar hits 20 home runs, it's going to be a bleak season for the red legs.
that means he’s playing too much. as has been proven the last few years, if rolen doesn’t play, the reds don’t win
I'd just like to see him not swing at a ball 2 feet over his head, or 3 feet outside
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
He can swing at whatever he wants, as long as he hits it.
I don’t care if he Ks 300 times, as long as he has a OBP above .315 AND and OPS of .830+
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
I'm not sure what to make of END
That raw power is hard to resist. And his greatly improved defense is encouraging. But I can’t help remembering what Slyde said about his plate discipline. Or lack thereof.
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Yeah, I want to get more excited about END
but I can’t yet. Just too many red flags.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
What Slyde said, and what everyone with 2 eyes who has ever seen him play has also said.
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Except the two-eyed front office members of the Reds, I guess?
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
A lot of them have said the same thing
The only person I’ve heard give END unqualified praise is Dusty, and, well…
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by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If actions speak louder than words...the FO must be rather high on Fiasco
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Actions ROAR louder than words.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 2, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
He is clearly at the top of the depth chart for third base. Either they have even larger doubts about Frazier, Valaika, etc., or they like END, red flags and all.
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If you don't have any other underwear, you'll wear the dirty ones anyway
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Although I'd love to see the Commando Strategy
and just play the game without a third baseman. Free and easy!
Todd Frazier is even dirtier underwear?
He was a first round draft pick, he’s hit as well or better than END in the minors. He’s on the BA top prospect list, END isn’t.
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Is END still a prospect?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
as much as
Frazier, Cozart, and Mesoraco are.
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Those three still technically are
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Francisco
was discussed in the text of their article, but wasn’t on the top 10 list.
Frazier was #1 on the list a couple of years ago. Now he’s #10.
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I don't think Francisco is still "eligible" for prospect lists
Even if most of them are subjective.
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
maybe that's it
I looked back on older lists, and END was on them. Frazier was ahead of him, though.
I wonder why Frazier’s such a redheaded stepchild. Is his defense at third that bad? He has decent power, and much more plate discipline than END.
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As far as I know
The knocks on Frazier is that he’s kind of a tweener, that he doesn’t quite have the glove to play 3B, but his bat doesn’t profile at 1B or in the outfield. So far, I suppose we’ve found that to be true, that he really isn’t in line for a starting big league job but provides a lot of value as a guy who can hit for power and play a bunch of positions adequately well.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 2, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I guess
Still seems a bit odd. He was a SS until three years ago. And it’s not like END is a wizard with the glove (though he has improved a lot lately).
But it does seem like the Reds see Frazier as a utility guy. Maybe there will be room for him on the roster next year, with Rolen and Cairo gone, and Cozart either the established starter or not.
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I think they tried
He played most of his games at 2B in 2009.
Then they moved him to 3B, LF, and 1B.
Generally, if a guy doesn’t have the glove for 3B, he won’t cut it at 2B.
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Nope
He played 37 games there in 2009, 79 in LF. I think they realized it wasn’t going to happen.
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Apparently
I’m not sure why they don’t like him, but it seems they don’t.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
He really hit the shit out of the ball in the majors this year
Didn’t walk much, but he slugged .438 with 6 homers.
I first saw Todd at Ed Smith in ST the last year of Fla. spring training
He played a fair amount of 3b and acquitted himself very well. He also got a tad bit of time at SS and again while not having the range of a Barry Larkin, did a pretty nice job. He certainly had the arm for it. His At Bats, even then, were consistently controlled and patient. all he did was play pretty consistently well in the field and hit the ball hard. He certainly showed gap power.
I think that someone up in the Red’s brain-trust or Dusty just doesn’t think Frazier’s quite good enough. But (although I often disagree with Marty on some thing) Marty Breneman repeatedly has praised Todd Frazier and has wondered aloud why he’s still on the bench. Marty has seen a lot of players in his day and his Todd-love seems to based on the fact that Frazier is an all around pretty darn good to slightly better than average player.
I don’t understand why he hasn’t had the chance that END has had or Hi-Z. for that matter. You really don’t know until you give a guy a a fair and long opportunity at MLB level playing just how he’ll respond.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
Frazier has a low ceiling.
And, as I recall, inconsistent offense the last two years. IIRC, he had a very weak beginning to 2010 or 2011.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
Just bat him against RHP.
Fiasco is a great bench bat for this team, and if he gets hot when Rolen goes to the DL, he’ll carry this team for a month. Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
I wonder how END would do in LF.
It would suck to try it with his 3B defense having improved so much, but it would get his bat in the lineup a little more and help out with the LF problem. I’m not suggesting he becomes a full-time starter or even platoons in LF, just that he gets a decent amount of games there.
he played LF in the minors a few times
And even RF once.
Walt has said he could be used in LF.
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I remember END playing LF in a ST game a couple of years ago
Ball never went to him. Too scared.
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Homeruns are great
But this is why I love me some Joey!
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
The best part is Joey trying to hold back a smile at first base
That was an awesome at-bat.
I think the most surprising part though, was seeing that Janish somehow made it over to third base.
Respect my authoritah!
That was in 2010
When Janish could take a walk.
He walked twice in that game.
It was Arroyo’s 100th win.
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I saw that one live.
Awesomesauce.
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Lesbian Gay Transgender?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not gonna write those off.
Gotta keep my options open.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
options
never a bad thing I suppose
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
It was the longest HR I've ever seen
That one and the Dunn moonshot at Wrigley that bounced off the street and hit a building like 6 stories high are the two that stick in my memory.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I saw Pujols off of Dan Serafini
Longest HR I’ve seen in person
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
wasn't that it the one
where Jim Day went out and got a branch that the home run broke off a tree?
The Reds said it was 502 ft , but as Hit Tracker points out, home runs are routinely overestimated.
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Rolen in the Deep as a thing this year?
by Brendanukkah on Jan 2, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well the Grammy voters do love them so old acts
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Nobody cares about the nba
It’s only slightly above the NHL, and I’d rather watch premiere league footie
Case in point: Demarcus Cousins demands a trade(zzzz)
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Cousins is a headcase? Who could've guessed that after seeing him play at Kentucky?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Nothing against Kentucky (this time), but dude was a headcase in college
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
It makes me more appreciative of how well Calipari controls these guys while they're at KY
Cousins was obviously a hot head, but not much came of it at UK – he stayed quiet mostly.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Yeah, he wasn't bad at all at UK
He had issues in HS and now the NBA. Always been great with the fans though.
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Both of you keep telling yourself that Swopshire kneed him in the head
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Dude, come on
He was trying to cover up over the ball and his knee came up. Cousins then intentionally elbowed his head into the floor.
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I'm going to kill you the next time I see you
Or slap you. I can’t decide which.
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just don't pull a swopshire & start something you can't finish!
by 'tHan on Jan 2, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That picture is great work at being out of context
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I have a nice holo for sale, would you be interested?
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$6 million!
$11 million after gypsy, homosexual, and communist tax.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 2, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
It's really amazing
If Hitler played basketball at UK, they would be Holocost deniers.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
/Justin'd
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by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, what btcoop said
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Godwin agrees
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
and he didn't like black people!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
You're waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too smart to be a "Rupp was racist" denier
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it's not as one sided as people try to make it out to be
rupp did a lot to try to integrate his basketball team, but the SEC wouldn’t allow it.
i wasn’t born until after rupp was dead. it’s dumb to label a whole new generation of UK fans as “hillbilly racists” because of someone that started coaching 70 or 80 years ago.
You've been to lower Kentucky. I know you have.
You’ve met those people. The “hillbilly racist” UK fan stereotype doesn’t come from Rupp as much as it comes from the jackasses that live in those areas.
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The thing is.
You could replace “lower Kentucky” with “eastern Kentucky” or “western Kentucky” and still maintain the accuracy of the statement.
yet ironically..
OH still ranks in the Top 5 of active KKK states, ahead of Kentucky
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Eastern OH is very similar to Eastern KY, which makes sense
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education time!
21 of 50 States have active groups
Apparently Indiana has one of the most active groups, American Knights. They also have another group, Church of the National Knights, which claims having chapters in 20 states.
Ohio has 2 very active groups, thus helping them maintain their Top 5 status due to membership.
Kentucky is no newbie to clan activity, with their Imperial Klans of America group.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
You don't have to join the KKK to be racis
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
without knowing who was involved in the UK incident
you cannot say that they did not have KKK ties
I cannot say that they did
regardless, the fact that it happened in Kentucky doesn’t really surprise me
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
A 22 yr old student and his white friend
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-effigy_N.htm
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
looks like they did it in reaction to the Palin effigy
partially racially motivated, but more realistically just politically charged
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
You're right it's not racist
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Northern states historically tend
to have a more organized KKK orperation. Primarily because they were not slave states and not a part of the Confederacy, therefore really didn’t need to be underground.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
the KKK was far from underground in the South..
the KKK in the North had to be underground due to the fact that they had to be more “accepting” of post Civil War society and laws
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
he got it switched around
/justin’d
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by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not quite.
KKK in the south was shut down during civil rights, everyone was cleaned up and arrested. Not so in the North, because there was far less political will to go after them.
MLK’s worst march was in Chicago. There are racists everywhere.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
the KKK dates back to..
surprise surprise, 1865. Wonder what happened around that time for them to start?
Klan kinda went into hibernation for about 40 years, and then came back around 1915 and was strong until end of WWII.
Then they had to deal with meeting / conforming to social norms, and that’s when they started getting banhammered in the 1950s. But it wasn’t until the 1950s the KKK went underground in the South out of necessity.
The KKK was always been underground in the North, b/c the North was supposed to believe in all the equality, and other stuff that happened post Civil War. Folks were just more quiet about it in the North. It wasn’t until the 1950s that you saw less of an underground presence from Klans in the North.
MLK and Malcolm X were 2 polarizing individuals, neither of which received Holiday cards from the KKK. Add in the creation of Israel, and the KKK really had a lot to celebrate around the same period of time.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah, big time
they also hate the Irish, and the Jews, but the KKK hates Papists, and Catholics the most from the religious perspective, and then to a lesser extent anyone that isn’t Baptist, Lutheran, or Protestant.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
You could also replace that with "Northern Kentucky", "Cincinnati suburbs", and "the entire state of Indiana"
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Southern Indiana is the most KKK-infused place I've ever encountered
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
most of my Grandfather's family is from Evansville
the stories he has told..
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
yup, agreed with both of you guys
The ex-wife’s family is from Henderson, KY (right across the river from Evansville). It’s an, um, interesting area.
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free hood with every male birth!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
big time Indiana
lot of KKK membership and activity per capita
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
You can go an hour out from Cincinnati and find bridges with KKK markings on them
And my youngest brother still doesn’t know what it’s like to have MLK Day off of school
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
you mean James Earl Ray Day?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
there was a line
and you crossed it
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
whatever you say Hitler apologist
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I knew of some schools in Georgia
that celebrated “Robert E. Lee day” instead of MLK day.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
isn't it Lee Jackson King Day in the South?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Something like that in VA for the schools
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
not since 2000
that’s like a segregated holiday
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Sort of
Lee Jackson day is the Friday before MLK day – so, it’s like a four day weekend for the kids down here
And I’m sure those in the south of the state probably refer to the weekend as Lee Jackson
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
More dicks than anything else, though
Bridges just covered in dicks. Dicks everywhere.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 2, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like a normal Wednesday night to me
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what was the artist's name that painted all the dicks on the bridge?
i love to walk across the dick bridge
I hear they sell em two for one downn at The Dock
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"New on CBS this fall, a cousin drama!"
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must be due to the higher percentage of ravenously heterosexual women that spray paint
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
that's true of any fanbase
there are plenty of louisville fans living in eastern & southern kentucky
The Notre Dame football team must be the antichrist to them
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i was aware of jewish hate
but i didn’t know they didn’t like catholics.
i don’t remember daniel carver ever mentioning hating catholics when appearing on howard stern
I think that the KKK still doesn't allow Catholics
Catholic bigotry was much bigger 100 years ago compared to today. Catholic bigotry is pretty much non-existent now. In 2004 it was a slow news day side story that Kerry was Catholic, and I don’t think I heard anything in 2008 about Joe Biden being Catholic.
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These days only Mormons hate Catholics.
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like the old joke goes
The KKK’s dream: every black in America swimming back to Africa with a Jew under one arm and a Catholic under the other.
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by BubbaFan on Jan 2, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty funny as far as jokes go
Everyone knows black people can’t swim.
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by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Black people swimming!
Now I’ve heard everything!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 2, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does it scare you that we think so much alike?
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but it's not just Catholics!
they dislike the broader group of Papists, and essentially anyone not Baptist, Lutheran, or Protestant.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Your first statement is a lie and you know it
I grew up in Grant County and Louisville fans were an endangered species there.
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No, but I'd bet my left nut there are the same or lower percentage of Louisville fans in E or S KY
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+1
That 85-15 turns to 99-1 when UK is winning.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
that 1 guy out of 100 is black
Just an FYI
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How did Rupp try to integrate his team?
first I’ve ever heard of this
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
thank you for posting
all I have ever heard or read or seen was that A. Rupp was a Grade A racist, and did everything he could to keep N-words off his team
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
also, rupp wanted to recruit black players but feared for their safety
Pat Riley
How was he going to take that player down to Oxford Mississippi, or Auburn Alabama ? When they wouldn’t let them stay in hotels, you know, when they wouldn’t let them eat in restaurants and stuff. Well I heard a lot of stuff about that, he was very concerned about having somebody coming to a team and being physically threatened, or get hurt or physically abused or verbally abused, and he really spoke out about that a lot.
Truly a noble endeavour
Sounds like a convenient excuse to me.
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Perry Wallace played at Vanderbilt in 1967, the year after UTEP beat UK for the national championship
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Was that a written rule or unwritten?
Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in baseball in, what, ’48?
My gut says Adolph wasn’t fighting too hard to change…
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my gut says a similar thing
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Man tHan I never knew
Adolf Rupp was a real Leo Durocher
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
quotes from reputable people
Pat Riley
There wasn’t any racism in him. There wasn’t. All there was, was a guy that wanted to win and take the best players. And I think he was judged on the subject harshly because he was a winner, he was a bigger than life character.
Joe B. Hall
Any attempt to make him a segregationalist was just ridiculous.
C.M. Newton
He may have been a lot of things, Dick, he may, some people said he had a big ego, some said he was a tyrant, some said he motivated by fear and all that kind of business, and I don’t know. But the one thing I am dead sure of is that he was not a racist.
Dick Gabriel
In 1950, Kentucky high schools were still segregated. Black schools held their own state tournament which Rupp attended.
Jim Tucker:
We had two state tournaments, black and white, so he attended a session of the black tournament. I knew who he was, and he said to me, ’I’d like you to come to Kentucky, but you know our situation here. But what I’d like to do is contact some of my friends in the coaching community and see if they might have an interest in you because I think you have the ability to become an all-american and a good basketball player." I had a lot of respect for him, I had a lot of respect for his basketball team. I respect his position, not fully realizing, you know, what was going on behind the scenes, and I believe that had he had the opportunity and support of the school at that time, he would have had black players.
Is segregationalist a real word?
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All quotes from white people and 2/5 are describing the same event
He must have had a lot of interaction black people.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
The guy in the neighborhood who goes on a shooting rampage is always described by neighbors as a nice quiet kid
A former UK player, UK coach and UK AD are nothing but complimentary re the man the current ball arena is named after???
Probably very neutral in their opinions, of course!
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pat riley is to the stage he doesn't need ties to kentucky
i doubt he would be willing to go out & throw away his reputation for no reason.
Why didn't Riley attend college where the ball team was integrated?
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he was probably trying to advance his life
why do people work for organizations they know are doing bad things?
because they tend to pay better
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by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
took the words from my keyboard
if you’re paid more to look the other way and have flexible morality, who cares what the organization does?
cash is king
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
I owe you a ding ding kick
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Was UK Rileys only scholarship offer?
I think tHan is too close to the flame.
Oscar Robinson was winning national titles at UC in early 60s.
The Jack Twyman/Maurice Stokes story blows away all on court accomplishments.
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like i said, he was dead before i was alive
i don’t really care about rupp one way or the other. i wasn’t alive, so i wasn’t a fan of his.
i’m also not saying that rupp was not a racist. all i’m saying is he most likely wasn’t the kkk member the media has painted him to be.
there is strong evidence from people that knew him to disprove his reputation. as the linked article says, the “racist” reputation for him didn’t even start until 10 years after the texas western game. history has turned it into something that it wasn’t at the the time it was played.
this isn't a shot at 'tHan or btcoop
but I’ve noticed that UK fans have very selective memory concerning their beloved Wildcats.
Although, same is said about everyone that follows tOSU.
Triumph the great, forget or ignore bad shit ever happened.
As for my fandom, I’m trying to figure out how this Bernie Fine thing will hurt Syracuse, b/c I know it will
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
every fanbase has that selective memory
there are a great number of reds fans that think pete rose was wronged.
It's almost like UK fans shouldn't make fun of tOSU fans' selective memories....
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If they were smart, sure...but come on, they're UK fans
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
appreciate!
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
With all things, the truth lies somewhere in the middle
Rupp isn’t the cross burning racist most UK haters like to think he was, but he sure as hell wasn’t a saint either.
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i only went about a 15th of the way down the page with quotes
and they aren’t all quotes from white people. looks like Dave is wrong again!
I know very little about the history of UK basketball
Wonder which major college programs, outside of BYU, has the whitest fan base…
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Army, Air Force, Navy..
Harvard, Yale..
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Much more likely to be Lehigh, Bucknell, etc.
Definitely not the service academies.
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I was just throwing out guesses
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
Fordham?
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by obc2 on Jan 2, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you know their fanbase is almost only White
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
At the risk of blatantly over-exaggerating our diversity . . .
Fordham is more racially diverse than Xavier, BC, Georgetown, Marquette and other Jesuit schools.
That being said, I’ve yet to meet a Fordham fan who hasn’t gone to Fordham or lived there as a Jesuit.
Also
I love a ham fresh cooked off the block of a 351.
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learn sumpin bout cars, son
351 Cleveland is a badass, as is the Chevy 327.
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Your Ridiculous
25% of the armed forces are black.
Harvard and Yale don’t really have “fan bases” either
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
'twas. a. guess.
Never said I was right, just tossed out a couple of school names
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by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, it's all white and trashy
I stop in Morgantown everytime I go home
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Please explain "Louisville does not Exist" phenomenom
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
it was a Cal quote that the stupider part of the fanbase latched onto
Of course, a t-shirt was made. I firmly believe the UK t-shirt phenomenon was created to rid the state of the tweety bird/taz shirt problem.
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Denying the existence of over a million people is awesome
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
this would be funnier if i didn't keep fucking up the link
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Fraking Hitler Comparison Nazis man, jeez....
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that's sacremento's fault for drafting him
they had to know before taking them that he would only work with a certain style of coach.
cousins had no issues at UK when cal was coaching him. so far, the kings have set him & themselves up for failure.
i still with the kings & heat would do a cousins for bosh trade.
You're never just going to admit that Cousins is a grade A asshole, are you?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I will admit it
what difference does it make?
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Same difference it makes when nycredsfan finally says "I was wrong" versus "Well, I wasn't right"
One of the biggest problems people have is “owning” their mistakes/misgivings. It’s a huge step in becoming a better person. Trust me, I’m the fucking Rockefeller of therapy.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I once thought I was wrong but I was incorrect
But that still counts as a wrong, right?
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"He's just a big kid, so misunderstood"
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
nobody should care about the NBA
it’s up their with reality TV for me..
I’d much rather watch the BPL than the NBA
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
And another person who doesn't care so much that they have to reply
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
someone was wrong on the Internet
I had to reply
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
You replied to a post about the NBA, I say that qualifies as caring
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Joey Votto loves the NBA
I may have to reconsider my opinion on it.
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ringing endorsement
and they say athletes aren’t role models..
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
The NBA is cool to watch just for the pure athletic ability of the players
but i never really watch it for more than a few minutes or care about the outcome.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I think they'll make the finals, but lose to whoever comes out of the West
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, they're going to destroy the league this year I think
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
i agree with you
there’s no one in the west that’s going to match up.
maybe the bulls could catch them napping, but i doubt it
this reads wrong
i know the bulls aren’t in the west.
i don’t think anyone in the west can beat them. however, i think the bulls are the only team in the nba that can possibly beat them
I was picking up what you were throwing down
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Dallas got better in the offseason
And I wouldn’t count out the Spurs, Clippers, Bulls, Celtics, Thunder, or Knicks (if they get a point guard). The Pacers are an excellent darkhorse team too. They haven’t locked anything up.
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
whut?
dallas got much worse with the loss of chandler.
also, dirk can’t play at the same level he did last year. i mean, i guess he can, but i wouldn’t bet on it.
if the thunder trade westbrook for rondo, then I’ll add them with the bulls as list of teams that could beat miami
Odom is gonna be dynamite for them
And I agree that Westbrook for Rondo needs to happen. it’s a no-brainer.
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by BK on Jan 2, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
He'll have a hard time shooting through all the tears in his eyes
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Anybody here have any idea how much it should cost me to have a cheap electric guitar re-strung and tuned?
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
Is it a gift? If not, you should really try to do it yourself.
If you know someone who plays, they’ll probably do it for a beer if you provide the strings.
Yeah. It's a gift.
And yeah, I have a couple of offers from geetar people I know but the boy’s birthday is Thursday and at this point I think I’m just gonna pay to have it done at a music shop. I have to go there to get the strings anyhow.
It’s a gift for a seven year-old who does not yet know how to play guitar so it doesn’t have to be tuned perfectly. And I found the guitar in the alley so I’m not opposed to spending a little bit of money of strings and tuning and such.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'd invest in one of those electric tuners then.
Because guitars constantly need re-tuning. Paying someone to do it once is a waste of money since by the time the kid would get it, moisture, gravity, and other things would just place it out of tune.
You can get a decent electric tuner for like $30. Once you get that, you show him which strings need to be which note. At that point, it’s just a matter of changing the tightness to match the right note.
So you think that if I had some strings and a tuner delivered to me at home by Wednesday afternoon (via Amazon.com's 'Prime' service.. free expedited shipping)
I should be able to this myself Wednesday night even though I have no ability to read or play music.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Attaching the strings yourself the first time can be a pain
but there literally are dozens of youtube videos that can teach you how to do it. You may need some wire cutters if you want to cleanly cut off the excess strings at the top of the head.
You can definitely tune it yourself too. All you have to do is just match the music letters . No reading of sheet music needed.
electric tuners making tuning an ax idiot proof!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
K'doke. And thank ya.
You’re all invited to his first CD-release party.
If CDs are still a thing in 2015.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think they may live on as 'calling cards' for indie/unsigned musicians.
I bought three $5 CDs at a ‘no cover’ show earlier this year. I don’t think there is any other way that I would have remembered the bands and their music if I had not.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
A USB release party!
Gimmickry, bitches.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
How hard would you laugh at a band holding a release party that handed out 8-tracks?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
More that than if they were handing out tapes
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Nah, gotta respect the tapes
8-tracks are shitty
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
yup, perfect idea
Keep up with the times.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I agree
Plus USB drives are less bulky, so if you are listening to some music at a small venue on a young night, you might be much more likely to buy their music on a USB drive which you can keep in your pocket, than want to carry a CD around, especially if you are drinking.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I can't play guitar
but I can tune one with an electric tuner!
CD release parties are fun!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Little known fact
I play(ed) the electric guitar post HS basketball injury…still have the 1987 Kramer Pacer.
Sadly, I sold the Les Paul. Ugh!
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
I can't play guitar, but I play a mean Rock Band
Oh wait.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
What FordhamRam said
plus, if you’re going to be there to give the guitar and watch the lad open, plug in the tuner and you can show the new shredder how to use it and then the 7 year old will be the coolest by knowing how to tune their own strings
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
depends on how bad off the guitar is
If you found it in an alley, it’s possible there is something wrong with it, ya know?
I once had a guitar that was so cheap the frets weren’t spaced right, and there was no way on God’s green earth that you could ever tune it.
Tip: tune it at the 9th fret instead of open. That will minimize the issues if the neck isn’t straight, etc.
You should be able to get a set of strings for $8. My music store charges about $60-75 to get do a full tune up: get the action (height of strings above fretboard) right, neck adjusted, etc. As others have said, you gotta learn to tune it yourself. They do have apps for that, some of them free.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Come see me at Willis Music in Kenwood.
I will personally string and set-up your guitar at absolutely no cost you.
There are very simple and easy to use electronic tuners that cost little (plus your 15% RR discount brings the price down even further).
Just come in and if you don’t see me just ask for “That crotchety of Fucker that works here”.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
This is a good offer.
If I didn’t need the guitar wrapped and ready-to-rock by Thursday night I would find a way to take advantage of it.
Still might.
Hell, the kid’ll have no idea if it’s tuned or properly strung or anything and so as long as he can hold it and pose with it and make riff noises from “Crazy Train” and/or shout lyrics from “Undone” he’ll be happy just owning an electric guitar. And then maybe we’ll come see ya next week.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 3, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Offer is open until you use it...just remember you'll be dealing with a S.C.O.R.E rocker...
In the vernacular of my 13 yr. old grandson – LOL
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
2012 Red Reporter, unfortunately N-word usage and Hitler references
Somebodies better be Pop’d Up!
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
whatever, queer
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was going for Queen Latifah, close enough?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Can you take me Higher?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Just remember that #louisvilledoesnotexist
#iliveinlouisville
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
this is great
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
do they really have
gaslamps in Old Louisville?
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Yep
A lot of the old mansions are student apartments now, instead of section 8 housing…..which is nice. Like most old neighborhoods, it has some areas that are nicer than others.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hitler references are acceptable
the N-word would be more acceptable if we used it more and desensitized it
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Marge had a couple favorite Million Dollar N-Words
and Hilter did a bunch of great things at first!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
He just went too far.
I guess he should have stopped at Poland.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
To be fair
We have folks in power dropping GDs and calling posters dicks, I’m not surprised by the current lowest common denominator corporate culture.
This town needs an enema!
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
what flavor?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was amused to see the frequency of use of 'gd' by one particular mod compared to all the other mods.
Unfortunately, calling posters dicks really is the lifeblood of this website.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
The way this thread is going, I need to be drinking
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Red Reporter- The way these threads are going, you need to be drinking
by DerekH91 on Jan 2, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
RR - "Two drink minimum, racial epithets and holos cost extra"
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
you mean holos weren't / aren't free?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 2, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Red Reporter: These threads aren't going to get drunk on their own.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I miss the late night west coast game threads
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Lakers-Blazers Thursday night.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 2, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Let's do it
I really liked Brandon Roy, such a shame.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Really was.
Portland’s my team; we moved there after leaving Cincinnati. Roy was the easiest guy to root for since Brian Grant, who played with a bunch of jerks. That franchise is cursed.
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
What happened to Brandon Roy??
I really like him too
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
yup
He made the right decision for him, and that’s a great thing. Too many guys sacrifice their life for one more year at $5 million. Roy walked away while he could, literally.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
NBA game threads should definitely be the new .gif threads
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Is tOSU losing?
I imagine so since no Bucknuts are posting Sloopy references
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All of greater Cincinnati is gridlock'd
#whitedeath
Who won?
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My first correct RR prediction of 2012!
Georgia < The Spartans
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They were the second best team in the SEC, what does that say?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Neither of those teams played in the SEC Championship game
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I think we both know those don't matter
/shave’d
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
It's like the north vs. the south
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Except the South is actually winning
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
If the Confederates were able to over-conscript and had absolutely zero intelligence requirements for enlistment, they might've won too.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Highly doubtful...have you seen Southerners
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
You lost about 80% at "over-conscript"
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Baseball question:
Anyone know if there is there a way on BBref to sort career WAR totals by position?
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
This should help
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Yes you can
play index – season finder – combined seasons/career – check mark whatever position you want with whatever playing time requirement you want – sort by WAR.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
by kcgard2 on Jan 2, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I think you have to subscribe to sort WAR by position on bb-ref
But you can get sorted WARs on fangraphs.
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was only a two-hour wait.
And you did ask during Happy Hour here at the Chuckehut™.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
Well, if you don't subscribe to BBRef, they give you the list from #10-19 I think
pretty weak, but they gotta make money!!!
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Man, I pretty much z'd through this entire thread without reading a single comment.
Something tells me I didn’t miss much.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Red Reporter: Something tells me I didn't miss much
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 2, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'd bet my left nut you're lying, or that you at least did CTRL-F "nyc"
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I honestly didn't know you could do that.
And no, I didn’t. I may be a lot of things, but a narcissist, isn’t one of them.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
idgi
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you don't know what ctrl-F does, I fear for our future leaders
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 2, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It saves me from reading the retarded tripe that doesn't directly pertain to me in internet threads
I’d say that’s pretty fucking vital.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I just did it.
Apart from your little snark about me admitting I’m wrong, all it did was remind me of all the nonsense I’ve already commented. No thanks.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I sooooooo wish SBN would institute something like reddit, where you get a notification when someone replies to your comment
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Yeah, it could be a little popup next to the one that shows new general replies.
And they could be highlighted in a different color.
Go Colts Dammit!
Yeah right - another reason to spend less time on SB
I think the mobile app is don’t sync comments on purpose.
My 4S is about 10X faster than my piece of shit laptop, and would use it for everything if I could.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
You made it to the second day of the year without fibbing!
I presume this is a record?
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't dislike you...
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 2, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I rec'd this so hard, well done
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Ha!
Even better was that the reply came within two minutes.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
That's the maximum amount of time it takes for you to be annoying.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
18.5 hours and that's the best you got?
i’ll give you a mulligan, holmes. try again…
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
I just read it.
I do not get paid to make jokes on your schedule, Gladys.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
that article about TV rights
Is really interesting.
Especially given this story, explaining why the Nats can afford Prince Fielder.
Second, let’s not fret over Nationals owner Ted Lerner overpaying Fielder big after — ahem — overpaying free-agent outfielder Jayson Werth a year ago. Lerner is among the game’s wealthiest owners according to Forbes and — in keeping with the theme of the offseason — the Nats’ local TV revenue is about to increase dramatically.
That revenue, reported to be $29 million a year, soon will "double, triple or more," according to a major-league source. The Nats are due to "reset" their contract with the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network to ensure that their rights fee is still market value. If no deal can be reached with the Orioles, the larger stake-holder in MASN, the case will go to arbitration.
There’s your Prince money.
If I understand what Fay is saying, the Reds can’t expect that kind of increase. They didn’t sign a bad contract. They just can’t get big market money. Yes, the ratings are great, but there’s little room for growth. Everyone who might want to watch already is.
Not sure what the answer to this is. The NFL share TV revenue, but they started early, before it was worth a lot. It would be hard to do that for baseball, when so many teams have their own networks. Football draws national interest that baseball doesn’t. Plus, it hasn’t really been an answer for football. Or it’s been an answer that creates other problems.
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Replace "Reds Live With Jim Day" with "Madville: Uncensored" and you'll see their ad price triple.
by FordhamRam on Jan 2, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
the sad thing is
That still leaves the Reds way behind the Nats.
The Nats already get three times as much as the Reds. And now their revenue is set to “double, triple or more.”
Never mind what teams like the Yankees, Mets, and Red Sox must make, with their own TV networks.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
My first segment: What do Joey's Tats really tell us about him?
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
There's obviously a lot we don't know about the Reds' deal
But if they locked themselves into a TV contract for a decade – without an opt-out or some other means of getting an increase – then that was stupid. I just don’t see the upside for the team if they agreed to accept $10M/year without substantial increases. When’s the last time your cable bill went down?
I can see DC getting double or triple what the Reds get in cable money because it’s a bigger metro area (though they split the greater area with a more established if sorrier franchise). But it really shouldn’t be much more than that.
by ken on Jan 2, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
The Nats are getting triple what the Reds get now
And they might be getting nine times as much or more after it resets.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I get that
I’m saying that if the Reds will be getting 1/9 of the Nats’ new allowance, they got themselves a bad deal. Another data point is the Angels’ new deal, which is worth $150M/year. The Angels should obviously get several multiples over Cincinnati, but 15? Greater LA is about six times the size of Cincinnati, and the Angels have to split their market. Even considering that TV markets are broader than a metro area, it really looks like the Reds have lowballed themselves here. I’d be curious to see what Cleveland gets.
Reminds me of this
http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/video/suffering-cleveland-bans-all-professional-sports,19701/
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 2, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Fay seems to think
it’s the potential for growth that matters.
Last year, even in the huge LA market the Angels weren’t drawing more viewers than the Reds. But because each rating point in LA equals over 63,000 homes, the potential for growth is enormous. In Cincinnati, where a ratings points equals 8,960 homes, that is not the case.
I don’t think the Indians are a good comparison. Like the Yankees and Red Sox, they have their own network. I wonder if the Reds have considered that.
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It's also important to remember
that the Reds have chunks of other decent markets as well. Columbus is half Reds country, as is Indianapolis. I think the difference in actual TV market size is much smaller than it looks at first glance.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 3, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
There are 9,818,605 people in LA County, not counting illegals.
The Angels are just south of LA County, in Orange County, population 3,010,232.
Start adding in more surrounding areas (which are even closer to the stadium than myself in Hollywood), as well as Disneyland tourists, and it gets big big big. I think the TV market is gigantic in comparison to the ‘Nati. And TV ad dollars are not spent exactly per-viewer. The bigger the market, the more likely that national advertisers will play a role. A GAP ad on a wall at the Angels game is worth more than the same ad at GABP, and sells FAR more easily. The GAP isn’t interested in spending money on an outfield wall ad in the #27 media market.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
What about marketing on a mascot?
The GAPper.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 3, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that foreign markets are the answer.
The Reds should market their broadcasts (very cheaply) to every country they can, with aggressive marketing in the Caribbean, Australia, and Japan. Make the Reds their first baseball team.
When Bill Veeck took over the St. Louis Browns, he gave away their radio rights for the first year, and six different stations ran the broadcasts. Veeck made his money at the turnstile as a result. The economics are wildly different now, but there is much the Reds could learn from him, and much, much more that they could do.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
You are definitely a republican
Foreign markets are only the answer if you’re selling subsided corn to the starving world.
Get it, it sells itself because it cheap and they are hungry. Foreign marketing operations are resource intensive and only beneficial if your product to be sold at a premium.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 3, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I work in international TV marketing a lot.
It is not very resource-intensive. It’s more about making business agreements with existing broadcasters.
There are TONS of Cubs and Braves fans scattered all over because nearly every one of their games were televised to an audience that got them for free via WGN/TBS. I see a lot of opportunity here, especially in the really hardcore baseball towns in Japan and the West Indies.
Not a bad summery but in the future use paragraphs. - Elbow Patches
But if Japan is a red hot market right for the picking
Wouldn’t you think L.A, Boston,. and Seattle would have carpet bombed Japan with marketing and sold the broadcasting rights for their respected famous Japanese players?
The Japanese seemed to be obsessed with Nomo, and Ichiro and Dice-K were heavily followed as well. I just couldn’t imagine those organizations passing up the opportunity to have permanent brand awareness in Japan.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I didn't say it was a red hot market for MLB.
But I think it has tremendous potential. And I don’t know why teams do not try to go there. Perhaps it’s because of nay-sayers like yourself in charge, or because MLB says not to do it, or because they envision a high-cost marketing campaign is the only means of making it work, thereby causing them to balk at non-guaranteed revenue from advertising expenditures.
It’s what MLB should be doing. And since they aren’t doing it, the Reds should do so before this market inefficiency disappears.
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I think there is better potential for MLB in other foreign markets.
Japan has a really strong Major Baseball League, who’s talent level probably sits somewhere between AAA and MLB. And American teams with Japanese stars are really popular in Japan. But I think the Japanese only really care about American teams with Japanese stars, and when that player is no longer with the team, they lose interest in the team.
Other country’s mentioned somewhere above where baseball is popular, but the league isn’t as strong as Japan, like Australasia, Caribbean, South America, maybe even try to develop markets where baseball is menially popular like South Africa, or even some parts of Europe like Italy. Since those country’s do not have high level leagues like Japan and America.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Japan's rooting force is so strong, especially in Osaka, that I believe there is a foothold for an MLB team or two.
But who knows which market would prove most successful?
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I know nothing about marketing in Japan
But I would assume considering most MLB teams are corporately owned that at least internally they would have considered heavy marketing in Japan. Corporations are just wired to spread brand awareness.
I may be wrong though and you may be right.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Did you just say "carpet bombed Japan"?
Hiroshima’d
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
they did
Hideki Matsui paid his own salary with Japanese broadcasting rights. They would break into regular programming over there to show his at-bats. Even if it was a May game against the Royals.
Japanese TV rights are definitely part of the equation when teams shell out for Japanese players. Remember that spring training game against the Pirates, where about 80 journalists were there because of a Japanese minor league pitcher?
Then there’s that “start the season in Japan” thing. When the Yankees played the Rays for the first game of the season, the Japanese begged the Yankees to wear their pinstriped uniforms. They were supposed to be the visiting team, and wear their road grays, but the Japanese were so insistent that they got permission to wear their pinstripes on the road.
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I always thought that it was strange teams didn't court the Armed Forces Network.
You have hundreds of thousands of bored dudes who are sports-starved. They’d watch whatever baseball team you put in front of them, so it might as well be ours.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Reds are on more than others
I believe the armed forces network has it’s own sports station.
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 4, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone catch Rock Center this evening
Very sad piece on Hondurus lobster industry and the impact of The Bends upon it’s divers.
I had no idea so much of lobster in the USA came from there.
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"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
You were given a reason
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by BK on Jan 3, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, I logged in in my other account on the full site and got the pop up.
OBC said Danny Graves was an asshole, or at least insinuated that it was possible to believe that he was an asshole. I really have no memories of Graves doing anything that could really classify him as an asshole other than flipping a fan off (making a sexual finger slur?). For those of us who remember that incident we know what caused it, it is a fact that word was used against Danny Graves. I felt, if that was the incident, OBC remembered, that caused him to think of Graves as an asshole, that he really failed to understand why Graves reacted the way he did. Maybe in that sense I was unfairly putting words in OBC’s mouth. If that is the case I apologize to OBC.
My comment was not meant for shock value or to push the envelope. I am not Michael Scott trying to do a Chris Rock routine. The middle finger incident is the only thing, that I remember, that anyone could (wrongly) consider objectionable during Danny Graves career as a Red. I guess he was a little whiny to the press after bad games; but he was never rude to them as far as I can remember. His teammates loved him and Sean Casey was outright and openly pissed when Graves was released. Graves also agreed, despite making a lot of money for being a successful closer, to try something new and filled a position of need and he took a large risk and converted to a starting pitcher, and he did it without complaining. In the aftermath of that, moving to the rotation probably shortened his career as a useful relief pitcher.
I also strongly believe no word should be off limits, depending on context. I do not use those words as nouns or adjectives when discussing or describing other people. I also am not foolish enough to believe I can use that word in a friendly way with African Americans, in the manner that many African Americans have reclaimed the word. But I will use those words when discussing things that happened. I think a group of adults, especially a group of adults who developed the meme (a moderator no less) “cuntfag” really should be able to use those word rather than n-word or racial slur against Asians, in a non-hateful way (which mine obviously was) when discussing an issue such as that. I honestly and truly believe it is better to use the words, then the first initial. I think otherwise that makes the word more powerful. Also racism is a part of our culture, our history, our heritage (not that racism was born or only exists in America and Europe). I really do not believe in trying to apply antiseptic to that, by avoiding certain words,at all costs. Those words should make you uncomfortable and angry, and because they demonstrate a plague of senseless hate, which I would like to believe most people do not understand.
Also why is that slur wrong, but if you do a sitesearch for the word “fag” (or should I say a homophobic slur?) it comes up a great many times, with almost no objection? What type of moral ground do you stand on where the words I used in an obviously non-hateful and non-derogatory way is wrong, but the word “cuntfag” shows up in almost every single thread? Granted fag does not have the strong legacy of hate as the other word, so maybe it is not a perfect direct comparison, since homosexuality itself did not really exist in Western culture as a personal or singular sexual identity until the 19th century. But the word fag has been used many times with every bit of senseless hatred, over something an individual cannot control. But yet the word “cunt” has arguably a longer history as a hateful word, as sexism and oppression of women existed in Western society long long before Africans and their descendents were even a noticeable part of the West. But as a site we seem pretty comfortable with those words in an obviously non-hateful context, making the patrolling of so called “hate-speech” at Red Reporter inconsistent.
I do not believe that whomever deleted the comment did it out of personal animosity against me. I hardly believe I am Johnu1 who brings the truth and light and everyone here hates me and is out to get me, I feel like my writing skills were a touch better, I would probably go by here pretty unnoticed. I do believe deleting the comment was an incorrect and a knee jerk reaction. I was, in my opinion, being frank and honest about the only memorable possibly “asshole” incident in Danny Graves lengthy time in Cincinnati, and simply stating and contextualizing why anybody, who may have thought Graves was wrong to react the way he did, was wrong.
I would apologize for the length of this comment, but I feel it is necessary given the reaction to my comment.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
This really should've been a fanshot
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
yossi post waaaaaay too long to read
the reason i think Graves is an asshole is very comparable to the reason Pops thinks Arroyo is an asshole. except the two people involved were not single without children…
nuff said.
buy me a beer, i’ll tell ya the rest in person.
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by Brendanukkah on Jan 3, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
we met justin once he didnt buy or rent us a beer...
nyc bought us GABPs finest microbrew!!!
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cool beans
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
im gonna go grab a soft drink, sit down and real this whole comment
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
i dont drink soft drinks
it was just an expression, cuntfag dickninja.
You were just a rich girl only having fun. Your worn out dresses brought stares from everyone. Hey little rich girl, where did you go wrong?
dickninja
that sounds rather rape-y
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
It had nothing to do with Danny Graves
but your point regarding “cuntfag” is a legitimate one.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
You should have ended the comment with "And THAT'S why I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler!"
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Okay, just for shits and giggles I did a site search for "cunt" using google
And you’ve not-jokingly called both me and obcwok that term in the last two months. So now you’re offended by it?
And while I get your point re: “cuntfag”, it’s not exactly the same. It’s a made up word and was kind of a meme here for a while, and while it’s not the most ideal word to use, it’s quite a bit different than the n-word. That’s not a meme here.
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by BK on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Red Reporter: The N-Word is not a meme here.
by 'tHan on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Let's end this tiff and just go back to cuaffle™.
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Red Reporter: I was about to say that
(testing the theory)
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Jan 3, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I site searched myself
Against, Ewok, this was intended to be an obvious over reaction.
I was literately listening to Ricky Gervais at the time I wrote this, and it amused me in my head. As you know he loves to say that to Karl.
But you are to a certain extent right. I really shouldn’t throw the word cunt around on RR. I have not found my comment to you, but in a comment to ‘tHan and OBC I really wasn’t upset, and was intending for it to be an obvious (all though gloryhole level crafted) jusarrian internet schtick over reaction that a sane rational person would never do. But unfortunately the written word lacks the dimension to provide the tone of the word. Which I take full responsibility for.
I do apologize if I offended anyone with that, and I won’t use the word cunt in that manner anymore in my future posts.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
seems to be a go to move
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
dang!
And to think, I just assumed it got deleted because you posted it twice!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 3, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I have to agree with Yossi
The N-word is an offensive word but Yossi didn’t use it in an offensive way. I would assume everyone around here is mature enough to realize that. The only reason I didn’t write the “n-word” out in this comment was because to be consistent, if I had written it out, this comment would also have to be deleted. Also, for what it’s worth, as a female, I find the word “cunt” to be offensive. However, I’m not offended by the way you guys use it because, taken in context, I know it’s not meant to be offensive towards women. Kind of like, when taken in context, Yossi’s use of the n-word was not meant to be offensive against blacks, but was used to emphasis how Danny Graves may have felt when called a racial epithet.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Reviewing the community guidelines
I think it’s kind of a gray area. It wasn’t expressly used as a pejorative, which is explicitly forbidden. But I think he could have made the very same point using different language.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 3, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Context or not
There are words you simply do not use on baseball blogs unless the topic at hand explicitly relates to it (ex: if someone in baseball used it and it becomes newsworthy). Racial slurs, by and large, are such words.
The issue at hand involves the use of said racial slur as a simile. A simile is a figure of speech. Figures of speech are superflous. Ergo, using that word in this context was superfluous.
It should be noted that the "warning" didn’t involve banning, probation, or any other retaliatory device. It was being used to privately warn the member that the language was incendiary given the community standards. But for the member’s outrage at being warned about using racial slurs, regardless of context, it would have remained a private matter.
I see your point
but using the same logic, how is the word “cunt” not also a violation of the community standards?
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I never said it was
I didn’t use community standards in the context of rules and guidelines but rather as a method to analyze whether a word or a class of words are appropriate given the group when taken as a whole. Given the fact that numerous people in the discussion have pointed out each other’s hypocrisy concerning misogynistic statements, suggests to this reader that, regrettably, it is more acceptable than I’d prefer.
The same cannot be said for racial slurs. Comparing explicit language to racial slurs is a false equivalency. For example, foul language is often used in private conversations among friends. If racial slurs are used in private conversations among friends, someone needs to get new friends.
by FordhamRam on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ok, I'm really not trying to be difficult and I agree that racial slurs are unacceptable always
but I just want to make one more comment about the “c-word” from a women’s point of view. I think calling the word cunt “explicit” or “foul” language instead of what it is, which is a sexist slur against women, the same as the n-word is a racial slur against blacks, is a convenient way to excuse an inconsistency of thought. I’m guessing that if we met in person, you would not use that word in front of me (or your wife, girlfriend, mom. female co-worker etc.) because it goes beyond what is typically considered “foul” language. I think it’s interesting that racial slurs are unacceptable in private conversations (as they should be) but sexist slurs are ok. I guess that’s just a “guy” thing?
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
by darthmom on Jan 3, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
To be fair
Following it up with “ucky” blunts the impact.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 3, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So she wouldn't care if someone called her that in a serious non-joking way?
Like I said in my earlier post, it always goes back to context. I’m not offended by how you all use the word “cuntfag” because based on the context I don’t take it as a sexist slur against women, anymore than I took Yossi’s use of the n-word as a racial slur against blacks. It’s fine if the moderators don’t want the n-word on this site in any context. That is their prerogative but to say that context doesn’t matter doesn’t make sense to me.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I have to agree
it seems as though we’re using arbitrary endpoints for language
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
er, selective endpoints, rather
I vote we change “cuntfag” to “cantfug”
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
well, she is an #uppitybroad
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
1) I think that she wouldn't feel the same if some random dude from the internet used it to refer to her
2) As recalled in the big “Thread on Racism” from years back, extrapolating from a single example is really, really, dangerous.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Ash & HawkeyeBrooke also really enjoy that word
but you’re right that it’s in context. they like to say it in conversation as a joke.
i doubt they want to be called it in a hateful manner. of course, that works with a lot of words. sometimes it’s the confrontation that is more frightening or offensive than the words that are used
It's not the same as a racial slur.
“c-word” : females :: “d-word” is to males. They can be both used in a sexist fashion, but aren’t beyond taboo in terms of acceptability beyond one’s specific gender.
There’s simply no corollary for a racial slur made by a white person. None.
I don't think that's true
I’d say the c-word is far more offensive than the d-word for most people.
The n-word is no longer acceptable in polite society, but there are a lot of racial slurs that are more humorous than offensive. Of course, I’m from Hawaii, where ethnic humor is an art form, and generally not considered offensive. Since everyone’s a minority there. Still, some groups are off-limits. Blacks and gays, notably. Because people might think you’re serious.
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While some may find one word more offensive than the other
It’s a matter of degrees. The average crowd in a movie theater doesn’t gasp when there’s a sexist obscenity said on screen in a theater during a Rated R movie.
The same cannot be said for a racial slur made by a Caucasian. The latter simply shocks the consciousness of any reasonable crowd when it’s spoken.
eh
My experience is different.
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Once upon a time, the Reds signed Bubba Crosby
And like a remora, we also got BubbaFan.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 3, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
:-P
Don’t you have some foot fairies to watch or something?
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actually
Hawaii is too small to support a MLB team. Or an NFL team, or an NBA team. So we have no “home” teams and are free to give our loyalties wherever we want.
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I use cunt like the British boy I am, as a familiar greeting
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Agree
Unless you’re black, the n-word is off limits in our society. Regardless of intent. That’s pretty well understood.
by ken on Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
disagree 100%
should be totally off limits in this society, regardless of color. (yeah, thats a rose colored glasses wing on a prayer…)
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It should be, but it isn't
So the issue is whether non-blacks can still use the word, even in an innocuous manner. The answer is no.
by ken on Jan 3, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
but it exists
and using a euphemism or an initial doesn’t change the word or what is behind it. How does saying or writing n-word,when discussing the term in a non-offensive way, change anything?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
you do realize that's the point of a euphemism, right?
by 'tHan on Jan 3, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so you are okay with editing Huck Finn?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Yeah, that's the issue.
Too many people coming on RR and re-posting Mark Twain.
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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 3, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
"Now , we'll start this band of robbers and call it Tom Sawyer's Gang"
“Everybody that wants to join has got to take an oath, and write his name in blood.”
Isn't the name of the book "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn"
I am the nitpickiest!
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
That's just cuz yer one uh them orientals.
See what I did there? I’m so funny it’s gaycantfugtarnworded!
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Editing what? I didn't delete it.
You seem to be really hung up on me deleting a few of your +1s. Let it go.
I think he's referring to
that guy who edited Huckleberry Finn by replacing the n-word with “slave.” If it’s really always off limits, regardless of context or intent, then books like Huckleberry Finn and Gone With the Wind are unacceptable as written.
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Are you guys boyfriends or something?
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 3, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
You know what? I deleted it.
I let it sit there for a bit, and then I got tired of seeing it. It wasn’t a knee jerk reaction by any means.
I skimmed this comment, and I see your point that you think that no word should be off-limits to you. That’s a very bold, courageous stand you’re taking (no, seriously, it’s incredibly courageous for a white male to take such a stand), but it doesn’t mean that you can toss around racist slurs whenever you want.
I don’t think your comment was made out of animosity towards anyone, but that doesn’t mean it’s an okay thing to say. You may not feel the need to be bothered to find different words to express yourself, and that’s fine. I just don’t feel the need for everyone else always to be subjected to it.
Still not a candidate.
Because the word is the problem
not the idea, not the legacy of hate, not people who use that express hatred.
It is really better to make everyone feel just a touch better by covering it up with a euphemism. I really fail to see how n-word is at all better. It expresses the exact same thing, and you still think about it in your mind. But you know, gdit just f it, lets end this s-word, here. The meaning is still there, even if the words are not.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
i never really felt bad
this is the internet.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
i am glad we all agree about the medium we are using!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Why do we need moderators?
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by Dave from Louisville on Jan 3, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
this post deserves a 4 part response
1. Kick rocks
2. Go play in traffic
3. Get bent
4. Pound sand
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
How about some actual news?
MLBTR reporting that Dontrelle signed with the Phillies
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by BK on Jan 3, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
This reminds me of when Marge had Lisa come in to sing at the dinner party
to break the tension of Kirk and Luann fighting.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 3, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a high-flying fag
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 4, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
no way!
that means Chapman will be our LOOGY to replace him, right?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
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