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  • So why has Ryan Madson been so effective?
    The answer, as you may know, is his changeup: Last season, Madson got 44 left-handed hitters out with his changeup .... He allowed only two hits and one walk (to Prince Fielder) with the pitch. The article also notes that Madson's change gets 10" of break (very good), generating a lot of swings even though it usually fell outside of the zone. 'mache also marvels at Madson's changeup: This comes in on average at 10 mph slower than Madson’s mid-90s fastball, and last season, induced a 33% swing and miss rate in batters.... Essentially, 1 in every 3 pitches Madson throws is a changeup. 1 in every 3 changeups is a whiff. That’s pretty good. The MLB average FOR CHANGEUPS was around 12% swing-and-miss last year.
  • For the fluffy, human interest side of the Madson signing, here's a 2011 interview
    What do closers do when they're not closing? I rock crawl.... In Southern California, and that’s all we did: Drive trucks and climb hills and rocks. You’ve got a cage surrounding you, and you’re going a mile an hour. If you get into trouble, you just tip over. If you're looking for a more business-y article on how Madson's deal reflects on the closer market, Tom Verducci talks about why teams are paying less for relievers. He also notes that we still don't know whether there will be an extra wildcard in 2012.
  • The new Ma-sty Boy?
    On Friday, the Reds signed to minor league deals a couple of lefty relievers - Ron Mahay and Clay Zavada. The 40-year-old Mahay-Mahay is well-traveled, having pitched for 8 teams in a 14-year career. He owns a 3.83 career ERA (120 ERA+) and rates of 1.7 K/BB and 1.2 HR/9. He spent all of 2011 in the minors. Zavada had a solid 2009 but has spent the past two years in the minors. Walt: "It's more for depth." 2r2d notes that with the signing of Zavada, Sam LeCure has gained a potential mustache buddy and/or rival.
  • Sheldon looks at what could be the next moves
    We've been over the fairly uninspiring list of potential Leftfielders. I'm partial to Kosuke Fukudome, who gets on base and may be able to maintain effectiveness throughout an entire season if he's given enough rest. But the pickings are slim here. Dave Cameron suggests a trade for Seth Smith, which sounds like a good idea but obviously depends on Colorado's willingness.

Star-divide

  • How the Reds nearly missed out on Larkin
    Hal McCoy talks to Gene Bennett, the Reds' scout responsible for signing Larkin. Even though the team had spent a second-round pick in just three years earlier after Larkin graduated from HS, the team was supposedly not terribly bullish on Larkin. Bennett convinced them to use the Reds' first-round selection (fourth overall in the draft) on their future Shortstop: It was June, 1985 — draft time, a day before the draft. The Reds had Larkin projected as a fifth or sixth round pick and Bennett was astounded. He thought Larkin was a No. 1. Bob Howsam was president/general manager at the time and was in a meeting with all the scouts when Bennett got up and said, "Do you know how foolish we are going to look when we don’t sign Larkin? He’s a hometown guy from right near downtown Cincinnati. Somebody will take him ahead of us and we’ll look stupid when he becomes a star.
  • The Blog Red Machine Previews Rolen
    Scott Rolen's getting long in the tooth, but the BRM brings up a good points about Scotty Ballgame's triumphant return in '06 following his last shoulder surgery. I'm cautiously optimistic that Rolen has one more good year, with 100-ish starts and a few more PH appearances. They can certainly use his bat and glove to stabilize Thirdbase, as well as his tutelage of the presumptive heir to the hot corner.
  • Fay's Twitter chat suffered from a lack of interesting questions,
    Unsurprising given the characters he's blocked. But he did tackle the managerial situation beyond 2012: @Chad_Fisher1 Dusty Baker have to get in playoffs this year to be re-signed for ’13? A: Without question. Even if he does, I don’t think it’s a lock he’s back. The Reds didn’t make David Bell the manager at Louisville because they wanted Rick Sweet to work with catchers.
  • Reds' scoreboard guy's in limelight
    So there's a quiz show on MLBN - Baseball IQ - which features contestants affiliated with teams squaring off head-to-head. The Reds' representative is scoreboard operator Rich Linville, who has written every Scoreboard Stumper since 1991 at GABP and Riverfront. The episodes will start broadcasting on Jan. 24. Go Rich!
  • USA Today profiles Trey Griffey and living in Junya's shadow
    Trey had an outstanding HS football career and is considered a "sleeper" WR according to Scout.com. He's received scholarship offers from Michigan State, Washington State, Arizona and Iowa State, but hasn't yet decided where he'll play college ball. Trey: "Everybody says I chose football because I couldn't live up to my dad's standards. Let people talk."
  • Cardinals engage in WASP-y winter training
    While Joey Votto attacks the weight room and Jay Bruce attacks his MMA sparring partners this winter, Matt Holliday and David Freese have taken in a few games of squash. Way to stay hungry, guys.

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Nice job, ken.

"I think it's possible this could possibly happen." - Harold Reynolds

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

Nukkah, Nukkah!

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by DerekH91 on Jan 16, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

YEAH!

Seriously, three of the top six acquisitions were the Reds (not including: Beltran, Pujols, Pineda). That’s huge.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

No joke.

I’m excited. Big time.

by crolfer on Jan 16, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope he pitches the first pitch on Game 2

Opening Day should be all Larkin

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to see Larkin throw the first pitch out.

The crowd would go nuts when he was introduced as “Hall of Famer Barry Larkin.”

Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean

by sexsalad on Jan 16, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd bet money this is exactly what happens this year.

"This is the St. Louis Cardinals we're talking about. They suck. Screw them. With a shovel. The sharp metal end. And then set them on fire." - crolfer

by rorschach1979 on Jan 16, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm excited

but I think another strong starting pitcher is what the really need to make 2012 close to a sure thing.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

another?

this another strong SP have a name? and what’s wrong with Cueto, Latos, Leake, Bailey, Chapman, and LeCure?

We’ll be just fine

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

LeCure will be our emergency starter at the MLB level

I have zero hope for Arroyo to be a positive contributor in 2012

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Christ, that's a scary situation

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

still scary

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

So you think Arroyo will still suck (I do too)

but you also think the SP will be just fine, even though LeCure is your guess at the sixth guy? Sometimes I don’t get you.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish we had Edwin Jackson to serve as the 4th starter.

He is good for 200 decent innings.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

keep dreaming

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it won't happen.

although if he gets $10M or less in 2012, assuming he would be willing to make the same money in Cincinnati, Walt seriously misallocated resources to Madson.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a big if...and probably still wrong

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

you would rather have Madson than an above average innings eater, even though the Reds bullpen was plenty deep before they added Madson?

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

For his price tag, he's overrated

also, he gives up a decent amount of FBs

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by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Edwin Jackson hands down if they cost the same

but Jackson will probably get multiple years, all for more money than Madson’s

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think his price tag is dropping everyday

I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up doing what Madson did and takes a one year deal to try and build his value for next off season.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, he can probably find a multi-year deal

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There you go again, trying to figure out a way to be mad about the Reds

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by jch24 on Jan 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

not really

just an honest statement.

If he gets more years and more money I won’t be upset at all.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I used the word "if" for a reason

I also like the Madson signing, and love the Latos trade, and after initial dislike have grown to feeling rather indifferent about the Marshall trade.

I just get the feeling that the Reds have a logical fallacy in thinking that a closer was the biggest hole on the pitching staff, especially considering the number of good relief pitchers they have, and the severe drop off in starting pitching they have after Cueto, Latos, and Leake. Also one more starting pitcher allows the Reds to better weather an injury to Cueto, Latos, and Leake and decreases the chances of the Reds having to give a high number of innings to guys like Cochran, Klinker, Webb, and Avery.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It really takes two of the following for those guys to get a high number of innings

Arroyo sucks and pitches himself out of the rotation, an injury to Arroyo, Bailey, Cueto, Leake, Latos, or Chapman, Chapman can’t cut it as a starting pitcher.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

All big ifs...and it could happen to any team, not just the Reds

Why do you keep harping on this issue?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

If this is the go all in year

i think having 4 good starting pitchers, who both are in their prime and have a track record of success goes a long way towards making the playoffs, and having success in the playoffs.

I really like Cueto, Latos, and Leake as the top three, but there is a great deal of uncertainty after them. Also Cueto has a track record of injuries himself. 2010 was the only season he did not spend time on the D.L.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well sure, the Phillies had 4 good starting pitchers

And look where it got them.

And so did the Rangers, right?

And of course the Cardinals…and the D-backs and the Brewers

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Depth still makes a difference

The Phillies’ fab four worked out as well as you could’ve reasonably hoped, and they stil had a different no. 4 starter by the end of the year. They also had guys that didn’t totally stink at the back end (Kendrick, Blanton).

by ken on Jan 17, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Worley

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 17, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, who's Vance Worley,

and who gave him the green light to be decent?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 17, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt, I just don't think it's indicative of success in the playoffs, as Justin pointed out

But then again it’s a crapshoot once you get in

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The Cardinals did have 4 good pitchers,

Carpenter, Garcia, Lohse, and Jackson.

The chances of Latos, Cueto, and Leake all making 30+ starts is slim, one more good starting pitcher really helps pick up the slack if any of those guys miss time.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

If there's another SP out there right now that's better than what we have right now, I'd take it

But I’m also happy with what we have right now

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 17, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If Walt thinks we need another SP, we'll get one at the deadline.

"I think it's possible this could possibly happen." - Harold Reynolds

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 17, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

An extra RP allows the Reds to not burn through their bullpen

Just like last year

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The reason the Reds burned through their bullpen was their starting rotation sucked

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And you don't think Latos and no Volquez will help with that?

With Arroyo (probably) having a shorter leash as well

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by DerekH91 on Jan 16, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, and look at that - the Reds improved their SP rotation

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

wait, what?

how did Walt seriously misallocate $$ to Madson?

We needed a closer, we now have a closer. Plus, as I see ‘tHan said down below, $10MM for a 4th SP is a lot of coin.. We’re already burning a huge pile o cash on Arroyo

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

His WHIP is HUGE except for one outlier season.

No thanks.

"I think it's possible this could possibly happen." - Harold Reynolds

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 17, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I listed the 5, then LeCure

plus, it’ll really be Cueto, Latos, Leake, Bailey, and Arroyo..

who knows what they’ll do with Chapman? He could be the SP depth, and then LeCure is the 7th SP

that being said, I’m not worried about SP in the least

Many people don’t get me

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear ya.

But c’mon, sure thing?

We’re not the freaking Yankees.

To hell with sure things. Let’s roll.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 16, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Big season from our CF?

did we get a new CF?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Marty and Thom would love that.

Because, you know, Stubbs is horrible and should be run out of town by myopic geezers.

"I think it's possible this could possibly happen." - Harold Reynolds

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 17, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

defensively he's great

offensively, he’s Dunn, minus the contact, the walks, and the power, but ALL of the strikeouts

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 19, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Sign Damon, Vizquel, and a full time Medicaid expert.

Or just cough up the money for Ross, since he’s the only option left who is actually capable of surprising us with 500 ABs of .800+ OPS.

Walter, you can’t lose what you don’t put in th middle; you can’t win much, either.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 16, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Damon would be interesting pickup

He’s usually good for .350 + OBP, still has some wheels, and has veteran presence. I’d like his LH bat in the lineup vs Carpenter, Wainwright, Garza, Greinke, Gallardo, etc.

Plus, I’d like to consistently guess how many bounces it will take for him to throw the ball to the C for plays at the dish.

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by obc2 on Jan 16, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh

He didn’t produce as much as Heisey last year, and that was with the advantage of being able to DH.

I don’t get why we all hate the idea of Heisey starting in LF. He OPS’d around .800 over almost 280 PAs last year. He’s better than some veteran like Damon who we all know Dusty would play far too much and who couldn’t be counted on for an OPS of over .750 while playing a decent number of games in LF.

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by sexsalad on Jan 16, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

my mistake

Heisey had 308 PAs last year, which is even better. I was looking at ABs before.

Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean

by sexsalad on Jan 16, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Heisey's 2011 is still a question mark.

His 18 HR in those 300 PA is probably at least a little fluke-y. The most HR he’s hit in a season before is 21 in close to 600 PA. His power may be legitimately improving, but it’s still a pretty big question.

That being said, I don’t know if any of the free agents our there are going to be meaningfully better.

by andromache on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is pretty much all I'm saying.

Of course I wouldn’t mind an upgrade, but I just don’t think one is out there. And if a guy who can OPS around .775 and play top LF defense is the biggest problem, I think the lineup is in good shape.

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by sexsalad on Jan 16, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It's less about not giving the job to Heisey.

It’s all about having a proven 4th OF.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 16, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

IF the Reds fail to bring in a decent outfielder they are an injury away from Dennis Phipps being the everyday left fielder.

I like Damon, since all other things are basically even lets bring in his VP.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

you bring in some VR3 for The Dusty..

and that VR3 starts..

We can’t let Damon start

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm really un-thrilled with his OBP, for one.

The Reds need someone with a .350 OBP batting second, and I have no idea who it’s going to be.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure as hell won't be Damon.

And if you’re looking for OBP, Ross isn’t your man either.

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by sexsalad on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Fukudome

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by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If he'l be honestly platooned, I agree

but I’d hate for him to be trotted out for months because of 100 good PAs in April.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

but I don’t know if Ludwick or Ankiel would be any better, and at least Fukudome offers OBP and some defense

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by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

No on Damon

yes on Pierre

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This is incorrect.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 16, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

it's my 2012 goal to be as wrong as possible

so everyone else can correct me, be right, and then feel better about themselves

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Dusty-proofing

More expensive than baby-proofing

by johnnywaffles on Jan 16, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

oh, I know

if we sign Pierre, he starts every freaking game.
if we sign Vizquel, he starts every freaking game.

there’s really no good back up options out there that The Dusty won’t start

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You are doing an excellent job, my man

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by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I try

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

he's basically be Norris Hopper for us

and given that I think Heisey should start, that could be good enough..

although given The Dusty, Pierre would start

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Who are the 4th and 5th OF for next season?

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by obc2 on Jan 16, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Todd Frazier

and TBD/IDK

I have a feeling we’ll see more Frazier in LF than Heisey in 2012

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

While I'd love Oswalt, that means Bailey to the pen automatically.

I’m not sure I’m willing to roll the dice ( in this of all seasons) with him in the pen over, say, Lurch or Dondo.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 16, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Why?

Bailey would be the long man/6th starter. He would mostly pitch in mop up rolls anyway, and this would give the Reds added insurance, in case anyone gets hurt or if Arroyo continues to be awful.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck him

he hasn’t done shit as a big league starter over a full season. He has had one brilliant flash in meaningless games, and two stints of passable mediocrity marred by injuries. He should be unhappy, but his unhappiness should be internal, and he should prove that the Reds made a mistake. He hasn’t done anything to say he doesn’t deserve a spot in the rotation, but he hasn’t done anything to prove he deserves one either.

Plus given the fact that he has spent so much time on the D.L. the Reds would be foolish to suddenly expect his shoulder to hold up for the whole season.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Then we should just trade him

because he isn’t going to perform much better in the bullpen (if there’s even room for him there), but I am certain he’d pout about it.

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by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You leave him there until there is a vacany in the starting rotation

the chances that the Reds only use five starting pitchers through the first two months of the season is slim, especially considering Cueto is injury prone and Arroyo could end up needing to be Zitto’d, and pitchers tend to get hurt or suddenly and unexpectedly lose the ability to get outs.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i was hoping

we’d trade him to the rockies for smith

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Smith's an A now.

(An Athletic, if that clears things up.)

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 16, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Like the Elephant?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

if we sign Vizquel, then he starts @ SS

I can’t wait for the day that signing happens, and RR crashes

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I missed Zavada and Mahay.

Both smart moves. Guys could make for nice depth.

by crolfer on Jan 16, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

It's great not having to rely on Zavada, Mahay, Judy, etc.

but instead having them as backups. The Reds are doing the sort of moves we’ve used to only see the good teams do. It’s a long way from John Vander Wal.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Glurgejack

Mike Sherman writes about what it takes to be a leader and a coach. It’s pretty weepy stuff at times, you’ll be glad you read it.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

um. yeah. totally sarcastic.

/wipes nose
/blinks tears out of eyes.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine.

If you’re looking for something better, here’s some MLK for you today.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

dang, I wish I was drunk at noon on a Monday....

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jan 16, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Has to be sarcasm, right?

Because I’m a girl, and I thought that was insincere and smarmy.

darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.

by Hawkeye00 on Jan 16, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yikes

Cynicism runs deep these days. Does Sherman take himself and his profession a little too seriously? Sure. But as a breed of educators, and most football coaches (and their players) do think of themselves this way, it is not a big stretch in my mind to think he believes every word of that message.

He wrote this letter to Texas high school football coaches (or at least revised it before sending) after being fired from Texas A&M when it could do him no good in recruiting (as he is likely to return to the NFL). Why does this appear to be insincere to people?

by Bill Doran on Jan 16, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like the kind of thing

that will be an elderly chain-forwarded e-mail. One right after why Obama is a socialist devil and right after a silly picture joke of a captioned cat photo.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jan 16, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sound it out

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So I shouldn't give my checking account number to the Nigerian Prince?

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

No, you can give him your account number.

But make sure you give your bank’s routing number as well as your social security number so you can make sure he pays you back properly.

It worked for me when I gave him all 3 numbers, his cousin paid me back $1 million.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 16, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ken Griffey nearly was on the plane

that killed the Marshall football team in 1970. He was going to MU as a wide receiver but opted for a contract with the Reds.

Jr. was a little guy at the time, so who knows if he would have played baseball, football or anything at all. With his natural talent, Jr. likely would have played, but it wouldn’t have been at Moeller. Who knows how differently his life would have been?

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 16, 2012 1:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Jim Bowden was still the GM. He'd figure out a way to fuck it up.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jan 16, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good point.... I wish Ken Sr. had died.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Jan 16, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to clarify...

I wish both Griffeys a long and fruitful life in this and all other parallel universes.

by Nasty N8 on Jan 16, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not always impressed with sanity in this life...

but this is just a good, solid, unfluffed commentary on various ‘things redlegs’…much appreciated because, being the plain, uninvolved…with so much of this world’s stuff…, and kind of grumpy guy i am at this fairly advanced age of mine, i really don’t see a lot of point in many things that show up in RR…lol…no knock there, just more of an admission of my own thing…

by alcory11 on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm now able to identify alcory's posts just as fast as Madville posts

I don’t think ki can do that for anyone else, unless you count FVA picture posts.

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Jan 16, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You think you're soooo smart, don't you?

I bet you can’t identify half of what you think you can.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

They are airing

The Jackie Robinson Story on MLBN right now. Has anyone ever seen this? It is turrible.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 16, 2012 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

I haven't but heard the same

Which is why Harrison Ford and others are involved in a new Jackie movie.

by ken on Jan 16, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's hope Harrison Ford doesn't play Jackie Robinson.

I mean, I’m all for rainbow casting, but that would sorta defeat the purpose of the movie.

Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean

by sexsalad on Jan 16, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

now there is a Rickey Henderson bio on

this is a major upgrade

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Rickey would agree.

"I think it's possible this could possibly happen." - Harold Reynolds

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 17, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

what's the offer?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

cool, thanks.

I learned two things from that. One is that the A’s may be decent this year and that the AL West could be tough. The other is that Seth Smith is white.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

We've already had the discussion

of this being baseball’s golden age of player’s whose names belie their ethnicities. One can never be sure.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

What about Wood and Willis for Smith?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Moscoso and Outman

are a couple of useful arms. Decent deal for both teams.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

or Balfour

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Or Bob Walk

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 16, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What about David?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So I dug out my old N64, and I'm currently slogging through Ocarina of Time (the Water Temple is the Gerald Laird of dungeons)

Which game should I do next, Banjo Kazooie or Super Mario 64?

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Jan 16, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Mario Kart

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Good call, but I don't have it, unfortunately

I do have Diddy Kong Racing, which I like just as much

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You could continue the Zelda theme with Majora's Mask

Which is basically Ocarina of Time, but with more shape-changing.

"This is the St. Louis Cardinals we're talking about. They suck. Screw them. With a shovel. The sharp metal end. And then set them on fire." - crolfer

by rorschach1979 on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on the Water Temple

It’s like that Seinfeld episode where they get lost in the parking garage. I think my Link got Uromysitisis poisining and died.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 16, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i didnt like the idea of getting cody ross

buuuuuuut after seth smith got traded it wouldnt hurt to pick him up. Im more worried about stubbs and if he struggles this could allow heisey to move to center and ross to lf or vice versa

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually its the "I just sharted in WHITE PANTS" face

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 16, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that's just how he looks all the time

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Only more flamboyant

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMN

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i think your right

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Haven't seen it mentioned around here (I didn't look)

But I recall a story about when Clay Zavada’s dad died, Clay walked away from the game briefly to go take over his dad’s farm or ranch or something. He was pretty young when it happened, and I remember becoming a fan of his because of the story. Can someone go dig that story up and make it a Fanshot where everyone will see it?

by Brian B on Jan 16, 2012 3:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

thanks for the heads up.

Here’s a New York Times article on Clay, and here’s one from MLB.com

Sounds like an interesting dude and an easy guy to root for, that’s for sure.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, who's going to look this one up?
Zavada was back in affiliated ball and made his debut with the Silver Hawks on June 21. Five days later, he endured his worst outing of the season.

“I gave up a walk-off home run in Dayton on a Thirsty Thursday, and 10,000 fans were in the stands screaming and dumping beer on each other,” he said. “There was smoke shooting from the nose of a giant dragon and a 16-foot bullhorn going off. But part of the fun of this game is getting your butt smacked, but then getting the chance to go out there and redeem yourself.”

This would have been 2007 or 8. Someone find out who hit the walk off…

by Brian B on Feb 9, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't believe I missesd this signing.

When I lived in IL, Savada’s hometown was 15 min South and the local rival. Streator is a depressing place but with good, hardworking people. Clay represents the best of them and his story is a source of great pride for that town. He still goes back and still thinks of it as home. The local golf course even repainted a golfcart in his honor — D-Back themed. I’m really happy about this signing and wish him the best as a Red. A great, great story.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Jan 17, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

according to mlbtr that is. sounds like maybe he has a spring training invite but didnt really say. I always thought he would be a stud but that sure hasnt been the case.

He called me a baboon, he thinks I'm his wife.

by ThreeofSpades on Jan 16, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Navarro

The early leader for least expensive game jersey at RCF booth at Redsfest 2012!

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

idgi

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

A NEWB!

who doesn’t know about suck it, duaner.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 16, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

2006?

I’d bet 75% of the regulars weren’t around then

The secret, is to hit the computer with a hammer

by DerekH91 on Jan 16, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He gets a spring training invite

4 scenarios here, only one of which is passable in my book.

1. He takes Hanigan’s job backing up Mes, and Hanny gets traded. Hopefully for Logan Morrison or something. (this is the good one)

2. He teams up with Hanny, Mes goes back to AAA. I will go to Walt’s house and punch him in the mouth if this happens.

3. Two words: Three catchers. We’ve already been down that road, no thanks.

4. They send him to AAA, and he becomes insurance if one if Hanny/Mes gets hurt. On the surface, this is okay, but I can see Corky getting pissed that an immigrant is stealing his job and going postal, which isn’t good for anybody.

No, I don’t like this deal one bit.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 16, 2012 4:03 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions   2 recs

x

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

ehh? eh?

amirite? get it? get it? it’s funny, right?

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Corky was pretty banged up last season

and they’re missing a catcher at AAA where assumedly they thought Grandal was going to be. I think we’re reaching the point where Corky may no longer even be able to be a full-time minor league catcher.

by FordhamRam on Jan 16, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

They signed Brian Esposito too

I would guess those three guys and Banhart are competing to be the third string catcher, while two of them will be the tandem in Louisville.

But one thing that gives me pause is that Navarro is getting $800K. And they could very easily decide they don’t want to give Ramon’s old job too a rookie right away. Also, I’m not sure if Esposito speaks Spanish (he’s not coming anywhere near the OD roster anyway), but Navarro does.

They let Ramon go to make way for Devin, so I doubt there’s any deviation from that plan. But with the interest that seems to exist in Hanigan – especially with the Rays – it could inch him a little closer to the trade block.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 16, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

No! I'll be so sad!

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't think that's the case.

There is no reason to get rid of the only OBP monster on the team other than “he doesn’t speak great Spanish.” And I’m not sure if a) that reason is strong enough and b) Hanigan’s Spanish is that nonexistant.

I think that if Mesoraco comes out really hot, then Navarro can take Hanigan’s place. And if he comes out really cold, Navarro can take his place. That’s not too bad of a situation to be in.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

unless the Reds getting a surprisingly large haul for Hanigan, trading him could hurt the 2012 team. Mesoraco, like all rookies, is a question mark. They Hanigan is a passable first string catcher if Mesoraco has an adjustment period.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 16, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It wouldn't be because he doesn't speak Spanish

It would be to acquire a LF now that they have the depth to replace him and let Meso get the bulk of starts.

I don’t think it’s likely at all, but the LF bin is pretty picked over.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Navarro backing up Mesoraco if it had to be that way. But he’s over a 100-pt OBP downgrade from Hanigan. It’s worth thinking about, given that back-ups always seem to back into more playing time than you’d like them to.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 16, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Any leftielder upgrade the Reds are going to get from Mesoraco

isn’t going to come close to the catcher downgrade. Unless Jocketty thinks Mesoraco’s gonna catch 130 games with a 270/340/450

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean Hanigan?

I’m not saying it’s a good idea in most cases, just that it’s a possibility. Hanigan is probably undervalued – partly because he’s a part-timer – so you’d get back less than you’re getting if he stuck around. It would also mean the team is one Mesoraco injury away from a Navarro-Miller catching duo.

But Hanigan could be a critical part of a package that vastly upgrades LF. It depends on how good you think Mesoraco is next year. Would BJ Upton/Heisey-Mesoraco-Navarro be better than Heisey-Mesoraco-Navarro?

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 16, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I meant Hanigan in the subject line, not Mesoraco.

And to answer your final question, I say “No,” but I could be made to change my mind.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure what the right answer is to that question, really

It was sort of a mind-puzzle.

But I think there’s a scenario where I’d rather see the Reds trade Hanigan for LF instead of liquidate more prospects. It probably also involves some other weird contingencies like reverting to the gold standard and the Portland Thinkers existing as a real MLB expansion team.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 16, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess so.

Basically, let’s see where we are in June.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine low-risk move.

If he can get back to his 2008 form he can be useful. If not, he’s injury depth stashed at AAA.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 16, 2012 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Walt may be waiting for the Cespedes situation to play out before he does anything.

I was pushing to sign him but that no longer looks realistic. But who he signs with may shake the trade market a little. If he goes to the Yanks, one of their OF may become available, such as Swisher or Gardner. Both would look great in Red.

by vottomatic on Jan 16, 2012 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

I've been wondering if the Cespedes thing could end up like the Chapman deal

Where Walt comes in at the last second and nobody sees it coming. Then I consider psychiatric help, because that will never in a billion years happen.

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 16, 2012 4:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

yeaaaahhhh I don't see it happening

I have a feeling the Marlins are the favorites.

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably a good guess

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Lo Mo! Lo Mo!

/whips towel around like a helicopter

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Jan 16, 2012 4:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

/Petey Pablo'd

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rather have coglin

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Has Cespedes ever hit a fly ball?

Mitch Williams said on MLB last week all his highlights were grounders. Hmmmmm, he was spot on, actually.

Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today

by obc2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Or the ground just rises up - just like Petey Pablo

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I am confused

I shouldn’t be surprised since it’s Mitch Williams, but Cespedes just set a new Cuban HR record, if I’m not mistaken.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

In Communist Cuba

all home runs are on the ground. It’s bourgeois and capitalist to hit the ball in the “above” your comrades.

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 16, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That sounds more like Communist China

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

In Communist China, all home runs are conventional 420 foot shots.

But everyone pretends they are 600 foot bombs and the state imprisons any bloggers that report otherwise.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 16, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Chicks dig the Huang ball.

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 16, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for clearing that up

good

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I know i its irrational

but, I have been dreaming of a Nick Swisher to the Reds for a couple of years now.

Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.

by brown11b on Jan 16, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

gross

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 16, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

jonny gomes 2.0

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If by 2.0 you mean an entirely different product, yeah

Comparing Swisher to Gomes is crazy. They’re not even comparable.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 17, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Johnny Gomes is like Windows M.E.

Nick Swisher is like Windows XP

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 17, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Jonny Gomes is like DOS

in this Nick Swisher is Windows XP comparison.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Jan 17, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you ever use Windows M.E.?

it was like Bill Gates vomited and shat on a CD, labeled it Windows M.E. and put it in a box, and sold it.

"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks

by Yossarian22 on Jan 17, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

gabe gross

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are 6-7 of his teammates looking above Gross?

Is something bigger this way coming?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jan 16, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he threw his helmet up in the air

and they’re checking to see if it’s incoming.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 16, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i think your right

david price (?) looks like hes trying to catch it

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jan 16, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Impossible, he's a pitcher not a catcher

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo, fire angels..

Dome, bitches!

How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.

by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 16, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

is that a Jonny Gomes sighting on the far left?

Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me

by UncleWeez on Jan 16, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

it appears so

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 16, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we just take his wife instead?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jan 16, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Clay Zavada's middle name is Pflibson

that is all.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat

by -ManBearPig on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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