The Reds really did sign Ryan Madson
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 10:58 AM EST
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UPDATE: Via Jayson Stark, Madson's deal is supposed to include a mutual 2013 option, with a buyout. Basically an artful version of deferred money, though we don't know the value of the option. Maybe it will look good to both sides after a World Series-clinching save.
Just yesterday, I think I may have said something like: "Whelp, I guess it's Wood or Cordero." I don't know how I spelled Madson so terribly wrong, but I'm glad I was right. It's been a happy week so far in Reds Country, though I hope you're not getting spoiled into thinking something good is going to happen every day. The Yoenis Cespedes signing doesn't come until Friday.
The market broke the right way for the Reds after Madson's reported $44M deal with the Phillies was scuttled, which paved the way for their signing of Jonathan Papelbon. There were less buyers than expected and the few with deep pockets seeking a closer decided not to pay Boras' asking price. Boras miscalculated in holding out for a Philly-style deal that never came. That allowed the Reds to swoop in and offer at least $2.5M less than the AAV Boras expected to get and avoid getting into a Cordero Contract that committed starting pitcher level money to Madson through his mid-30s. It would have been nice to get another year of Madson at a discount, but he's obviously seeking a big contract again in 2013 and it's perfectly fine for the Reds not to be paying what would probably be 8 figures for a closer again.
The $8.5M that Jerry Crasnick is reporting for Madson's one year deal is not a pittance. Although we may not understand fully how to evaluate reliever leverage and the "chaining" effect of relievers on the quality of the bullpen as a whole, it's still difficult to justify, in strict money for wins terms, paying a closer what you might pay a #2 starter. Madson, however, is not only the best closer on the market, hes probably the best free agent left that the Reds can afford. Considering the free agent market this winter, wherein Madson was easily in the Top 20 and the Reds' may have had a bird in hand with Cordero, this is a very good signing. Considering Madson was a Boras client who was expecting in excess of $11-$12M over multiple years, it's a potentially great one.
The "win now" imperative says if you have money to spend, you should spend it. So if the Reds are shelling out $8.5M in free agent bucks, it's hard to imagine getting a better product. Perhaps Kerry Wood and Cody Ross combined could have been signed for less than Madson's money. Perhaps they still will be - its been a surprising off season. But even accepting the WAR values of relievers, Madson is worth as much or more than two role-player signings. It's also worth mentioning that this signing appears in the transaction feed right above "Cardinals sign Koyie Hill."
On paper, the Reds' bullpen is now - there's no other word for it - dynamite. But unlike Van Morrison, we do know why. Madson and Marshall were both in the Top 10 among NL relievers last season by most any measure, with Marshall arguably better than everyone but Craig Kimbrel. They'll be pitching the late innings, joined by Bill Bray, Jose Arredondo, Nick Masset, Logan Ondrusek and Sam LeCure. For depth, there are intriguing minor league signings like Josh Judy and Andrew Brackman. Charlie Scrabbles has argued well for why Judy in particular could be much more than filler.
You don't have to love paying relief pitchers to be excited about this move. And excitement is part of what the Reds are investing their money and prospects in this winter.
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Woohoo!!!!
Now on to the next one. Issues (if you wanna call em that) remaining:
1. LF – Keep the dream going Walt. Bring in Cespedes.
2. Figure out what to do with Homer/Chapman. They’ve said Chap won’t go to AAA, but Homer doesn’t have options. Somethings got to give.
3. Backup SS – I don’t think its that big of an issue but the Reds seem to want one so there’s that.
4. SP depth – sign some AAAA starters and we are golden
This is why I think a trade may still be in the works.
Homer might be on the way out. I don’t think they’d stick him in the bullpen.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'd almost rather burn an option on Lecure than lose Bailey for less than he's worth.
Also having Bailey as the first man in for an injury situation, well, after Chapman or before Chapman’s ready, is better than LeCure.
I really don’t know what will happen with the rotation.
One thing they have now is time on their side. They can wait for more things to shake loose around the leauge all the way into spring training. Maybe the right deal does show up for Bailey at that point. You have to be careful with the depth, though, IMO, until ST is almost over, then make a deal if everyone is healthy. It’s more important to have a stable rotation to start the year than to “solve” LF by April.
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
by mdccclxix on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
the Reds would be in trouble if their only big league starting pitchers are Latos, Cueto, Leake, Chapman, and Arroyo, way way way too much uncertainty with Chapman and Arroyo. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bailey puts up a better year than Chapman and Arroyo do.
Now if the Reds can find another guy who can throw about 180 innings with an ERA+ over 95, who has a history of staying healthy, I would be okay with unloading Bailey.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I'm a lot more concerned about Chapman and Bailey than Arroyo
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Really? I'm the opposite, even when you remove my bias.
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by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
They concern me in different ways
I think Chapman is the biggest question mark, can he be a serviceable MLB starting pitcher in 2012?
When Bailey has been healthy he has been a fine, while not great, starting pitcher. Can he stay healthy in 2012?
Arroyo stayed healthy and I have no reason to doubt his ability to stay on the field, but can he rebound in 2012?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
If only Bailey could refind his fastball velocity.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think his shoulder is slowly falling apart
3 shoulder injuries in 2 years, and the decrease in velocity is not something that has me excited about Bailey’s long term MLB future.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, those are the questions.
And the answers are only gut at this point so,
Yes.
Yes.
Not likely.
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by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly think Arroyo will be back to his old self this year
My own bias for him aside, the spring training mono last year really doomed his season. He lost 30 lbs in spring training and it can take six months or more to get back to normal even with proper rest (which he didn’t get because he refused to go on the DL). Considering the type of pitcher he is, there’s no reason why he can’t come back.
Bailey and Chapman scare the crap out of me because of their lack of consistency. No one has any idea what Chapman would do as a starter or how long he’ll last. Bailey has moments of brilliance, but tends to regress just as soon as we finally think he’s made a breakthrough. The nagging shoulder injuries concern me with Bailey, too.
We’ll find out soon enough, I guess.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Yeah, I and the girlfriend at the time got mono together about 6 weeks before the end of the school year
We both sorta limped through classes, and when classes were over she had a nice high paying internship and went straight to work, i had a minimum wage job at the grocery store waiting for me, so I took a couple of weeks off.
I was over mono long before she was.
But I lost so much weight and was so weak, I couldn’t imagine dealing with that while trying to be a professional athlete. The probably should have put Bronson on the DL to start the season, and let him rest and gain his strength back.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's said that he lost 30 pounds? In five or six weeks?
I’m skeptical.
Also, didn’t Bronson have some rare mystery flu the year before last?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
He had mono, have you ever had mono?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not skeptical that he had mono.
I’m skeptical that a professional athlete with (presumably) little body fat lost 30 pounds in 40 days.
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
that does seem extreme
and you’d think it would’ve been visually noticeable. 30 lbs off his what, 200 lb MAX frame? He’d look like Christian Bale in The Machinist (horribly overrated movie, by the way)
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
They showed him in an interview during spring training-he did look that bad
And ITA, that movie wasn’t very good.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
I doubt very many people would have seen the movie if it weren't for Bale's insane method acting
I think interest in that movie was about 90% “Holy moley, he really starved himself for a movie?!”
And mono can definitely mess your world up, if you catch a bad case and don’t take some time off to recover (which Arroyo did not).
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, that's the only reason that I watched it
I checked it out of the library, and was glad I hadn’t paid anything to see it. The only reason it got any decent publicity was because of Christian Bale’s weight loss for the role.
I had a rough time with mono because I had been struggling with a separate health issue when I caught it. It took me close to a year to feel “normal.” I think Bronson will be fine this year.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Someday I will have to relate the tale of my daughter's run-in with mono
Short version:
“Doctors can be really condescending to women, in a way I have never experienced as a man.”
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
You guys must be whacked out on goofballs
Cuz that was a great movie.
Of course, many of my favorite movies are by weirdos like Lynch and Cronenberg, so this was right my alley.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I love Lynch and Cronenberg
just thought The Machinist was contrived and kind of a ripoff of Fight Club
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Harrumph.
That is all I have to say.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
definitely a good argument
(i’m just givin ya shit. I know lots of people that liked it, I just didn’t happen to be one of them)
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Before they found out he had Mono they thought he had Valley Fever.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he had been sick for awhile before it was diagnosed
I’m 5’8", and was about 130 lbs when I was diagnosed with mono as a junior in college. I missed three months of classes and dropped down below 100 lbs.
Mono really, really sucks.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
From personal experience, I'd say it's possible
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Arroyo is a pitcher with seemingly 9 lives and Baily will be back...count on it.
Androidis just needs reps and reps…he’s going to be force.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
If by Bailey, you mean Irish cream
and by “there”, you mean in my coffee, then yes.
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by ZJiff30 on Jan 11, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is my thing
I’m not sure Bailey has ever done enough to say he’s about to break out…..
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Well
He has been decent when on the field in 2010 and 2011. I think people expecting Bailey to win a Cy Young or form a 3 headed ace monster with Cueto and Latos will be sorely disappointed.
If he can stay healthy, I think expecting an ERA in the low 4’s or high 3’s is not too crazy.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
he's pitched well against shitty teams when the Reds were out of it
so he’s got that going for him
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
think you're right on...
i don’t have much fear that arroyo won’t be back to form…but i’m yet to be convinced that chapman can be consistent and effective in any role, especially as a starter…i like him, of course, love his upside potential, but have seen enough of him to know he’s got a ways to go…as for bailey, we all know he’s struggled to get past some of those youthful opinions of his, to put it nicely…but this past year he showed that he’s turned that stubborness inward, got tough with himself, really started learning to pitch…yeah, he made some bad pitches, but you could see that he understands that that is going to happen no matter how well any pitcher can do…the point is always that a pitcher has to get past that bad pitch immediately, not let it take him out of his rhythm and command as they always say…me, i think he’s made bigtime strides and really look for next season to be solid and consistent for him, a step up…and yeah, every team needs at least 8 starters who are major-league ready, maybe not all 20-game winners…lol…but who have at least shown that they should have the chance to go out there and pitch…less than 8 and the season usually gets very long for a rotation…
We still don't know what Bailey's worth
Except we know he’s worth a lot less than he used to be.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
at the very least
you can expect him to throw 100 average innings.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Him and about 100 other guys.
I’m sure someone would take a flier on him, but I don’t think we could get much in return.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
We could get another young, but disapointing player who only a few years ago was a high level prospect.
I think Bailey has more value to the Reds than anyone else in 2012.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect you are correct.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect that if we recieved a player like Bailey in trade, we'd be happy about it.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
A guy who has lost a couple of miles on his fastball, and spent month+ long stints on the DL in each of the last two seasons?
I would be intrigued, think it has nice potential, but I wouldn’t be jumping for joy over it.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
right on...
even as good as it looks, the old factor of having at least 8 major league qualified starters in necessary for any team to succeed greatly…the reds have done way more than most of us would have sanely hoped for this offseason…me, i’m still thinking homer bailey just might be launching to a whole new level this year…he’s a little older and wiser, has turned his hard nose on himself, and has been showing that he gets it…stuff and a good fastball are wonderful, but finding out how to pitch really is what will get him there…it’ll be interesting to see who/what shakes out over the next couple of months now…
I think Homer's biggest problem now is health
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
This is going to be Baily's year
He’s young and is beginning to learn how to pitch. His velocity is off a bit but if he can pitch that don’t matter.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
why? Who else is around that's better than him?
Chapman?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I don't believe them about Chapman not going to AAA.
I suspect that’s where he’ll start the season.
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I hope so
I don’t think he’ll learn to be a starter otherwise.
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but I don't see why the Reds would make that statement
they gained nothing by lying.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
leverage
If Walt’s talking to San Diego, and they’re trying to push the “you need another starter” angle, Walt can point to that and say “hey, we’re committed to this guy, who has ace potential”
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
I'm not sure it was lying.
The statement was made once (though I can’t find the original quote right now) so it’s not like it’s been a front office mantra all winter. I think it’s just that the team is still taking shape, it’s still January, and people change their minds. I have a feeling the Reds will, ultimately.
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think we know for sure whether it's a team option yet or not
It could be sky high with a buyout of several million.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
could be
that could have been away for the Reds to get some payroll flexibility for 2012, if Madson’s has a team option for $14M with a $3M buyout.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Bean Srtingfellow thought it was in the can.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Went to the farmer's market instead
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I heard he's an Ohio guy
From Lima
by poojols on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
As CoCo's agent, he planted a seed with the Reds that didn't take root.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nor, ultimately, produce any magical fruit.
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
But when judging the market, he's far from astute.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
This whole rhyming scheme is getting real cute.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Not what I meant to happen, shoot.
Less rhyming, more bean references. “The more you eat, the more you toot”
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
"The more you toot, the better you feel!"
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
FVA promised to buy me a beer if I said, "shitty cute"
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
Does not compute.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Read your email, moran
You’re coming, right?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Damn. I'm late.
The little thing you two have here is shitty cute.
Dirt Bikes!
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 12, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Too many threads.
I can’t keep feeding you guys important information, like the team option from Fya, in so many thredz.
Last thing before I go work for most of the rest of the day...
To all those questioning Madson comp picks, I confirmed w/MLB that #Phillies get a sandwich pick and a pick before #Reds 2nd-rder. #mlbdraft – JimCallis
so they don't slot in ahead of their 1st round pick? it's the 2nd round pick?
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
There are apparently 6 types of Type A FAs.
Madson is type 1. So…. I dunno. I think it changes next year, too.
Well, gee, that's not confusing at all.
Good thing they upgraded from that terribly complicated old system!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
8th and 9th inning...2 top 5 hammers facing...no Pujols...no Fielder...no Braun...creaky old Beltrans and Berkmans and Lees and Sorianos...
This team is going to punish some opponents, I’m fairly certain.
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
Fielder should back up Votto!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Fielder should play LF
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by brown11b on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I bet Joey could play a league average LF
by Eastwindquinn on Jan 11, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
he is athletic enough to
the question is can he read the ball well enough off the bat to run good routes.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That requires a lot of practice
If he’s played 1st all his life, it would not be an easy transition.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
He hasn't played 1B all his life
just since being drafted
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and i think the ability to play outfield is somewhat innate talent
Gomes worked really hard, and still took bad routes.
I think to a certain extent the ability to play outfield is instincts.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I've heard that, too
Some people have a natural instinct in the outfield, and it’s very difficult to teach that.
If you have a lot of speed, you can get by. But OFers like that tend to age poorly. Once they lose their speed, they suck.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Stubbs'd
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
This makes absolutely no sense
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Votto wouldn't switch positions for Yonder
why would he for Prince?
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
I think they asked and he said that he wouldn't favor the idea.
I am in favor of Joey playing wherever the heck his manager tells him to.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
I think Joey would move if the Reds forced him to, but he would rather not.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I'm okay with making him happy
Not as okay with making him happy as you would be, but I’m okay making him happy.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He should have said, "Whatever helps the Reds win."
No other answer is acceptable.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he gave the unacceptable answer
of saying he wouldn’t be able to hit as well if he had to learn a new position.
However, he did play some LF in Louisville.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it makes plenty of sense
Stubbs takes horrible routes and is bailed out by his speed.
He is an average or slightly above average center fielder, all of it is because of speed, not his ability to read the ball or take good routes to get it.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I think you're confusing him with Willy T or Corey P
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I don't think so
Willy T and Corey P aren’t bad defenders. According to Fangraphs, they’re better than Stubbs. They earned the wrath of Reds fans because of their sticks, not their gloves.
I’m not sure if Stubbs is one of those OFers who gets by on raw speed or not; I haven’t seen enough of him. IMO, it’s hard to tell just watching on TV. However, I have heard a lot of fans make the same observation that Justin did: that Stubbs doesn’t have good instincts in the outfield, but makes up for it with his speed.
If that’s true, it doesn’t mean he’s a bad outfielder. There are a lot of very good OFers who do it with athleticism rather than instinct.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Hmmm, this picture tells a different story
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I remember Slyde tweeting something about the jump Stubbs gets on the ball
He has the advantage point from his position at FS…he said Stubbs’ jump was better than that of Heisey (if I remember correctly).
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
but that's not saying a lot
A lot of people think Heisey’s horrible.
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I think the jury's still out on Heisey
One good year in 2010…not so good in 2011, what’s next? What’s real?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
yeah, I think the jury's still out, too
He really hasn’t played enough.
However, I do see what people mean about Heisey. He seems to have good range, but doesn’t catch as many balls as you would expect with that range. Spending so much time on the bench might have something to do with it.
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According to Fangraphs, Stubbs has been an average center fielder over the last 2 years
I think that is a pretty decent sample size. He isn’t a bad center fielder, but if he wasn’t one of the fastest guys in the league he probably wouldn’t stick in center.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Eh, I disagree
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
uzr/150 has not been kind to Stubbs.
it was .8 in 2010
-2.2 in 2011.
But his Totalzone in 2010 was 19. Whatever that means, literally, I know as much about TZ as Joey Votto knows about Colin Cowherd.
So I guess I am asking is a TZ of 19 good?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
TZ of 19 was the best in CF in 2010
Since Stubbs came up, on Franklin Gutierrez has a TZ in CF.
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Holy crap, this is incomprehensible
Since Stubbs came up, only Franklin Gutierrez has a better TZ in CF (43 to 39)
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So TZ likes Stubbs, and UZR/150 is Agnostic
what is the difference between TZ and UZR/150.
I have real work to do, so please continue to keep me from doing it!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
TZ is considered highly accurate for Centerfielders, completely unreliable for Secondbasemen
by ken on Jan 11, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I actually don't like TZ that much
but to be honest, I’m shying away from all defensive metrics. Colin Wyers has me paranoid that we really don’t know what is going on with them. So now, they’re basically a mild indicator for me. Guys who look awful across the board are usually bad. Guys who look average/good across the board are usually good.
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It may be a decent sample size, but defensive metrics are still weak defense of any argument, IMO.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
but so is the eye test.
When I see Stubbs play, I feel like I see him take bad routes and get bad jumps.
But I may be biased.
But ChiDa may be biased as well.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Slyde says you are wrong.
Case closed.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Slyde may be biased.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Naw, they aren't dating anymore.
I think his view is clear now.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not biased, but I could be wrong
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
A player's defensive ability is truthiness
And I never said Stubbs was a bad center fielder, I just think he is nothing to write home about.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
The ball is much easier to judge off the bat in CF than it is in LF or RF
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Seriously?
I thought there was some disadvantage to it coming straight at you – hard to judge distance and what not?
Or is that just normal with Stubbs?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Other than the in-between liner, I always thought CF was easier to judge
LF was the worst for me, as a lefty.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
When hit straight at you on a line,
regardless of your outfield positioning, the ball tends to knuckle as it approaches, bending erratically as it nears. And the only view you have of the ball is the ball getting ever-so-slightly larger. Having an angle on the ball helps a lot in judging where and when it’s gonna come down.
That said, I am and have always been a lousy outfielder.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
What you described is what I called the in between liner :)
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
they do say the ball that comes right at you is the hardest to judge
But that can happen at any position in the OF.
I dunno if it’s actually harder to judge from the corners, but if a player isn’t used to it, it’s more difficult. A lot of outfielders played a lot of CF in the minors, so having to play the corners is an adjustment. Chris Dickerson, for example. He was worse in LF than in CF. Probably because he played mostly CF in the minors.
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there tends to be more spin on the ball when it comes off the bat when you're playing the corners
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
It deppends what you are use to
it took Griffey a bit of time to adjust to playing in right field, he misjudged a fair number of balls in the early goings of 2007.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
The Virus took HORRIBLE routes to balls
Patterson is a good defender, and possibly better than Stubbs
I’d say Stubbs might be faster than both of them and might make up for some of his initial “flinch” with closing speed, but dude just fucking covers so much ground and with his size gets to plenty.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
This is still not true
and it hasn’t been true since you started saying it months ago.
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BOOM!
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
mmmm
standing rib roast
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
It seems like, in my opinion, that a lot of catchable balls haven't been caught by Stubbs.
I have nothing to back it up except unreliable defensive stats. Hell the unreliable defensive stats may have even given me a minor mental self- fulfilling prophecy about Stubbs.
But at the very least there is nothing that really says he is an elite center fielder. Hell I am may disappointed because he was billed as an elite center fielder and he has merely been average to above average.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
From my eyes
His biggest flaw defensively is that he’s not aggressive on shallow balls. But those are singles, so it’s not terrible. He covers the gaps ridiculously well. Also, he has one of the best arms in CF.
FWIW, I’ve heard guys like Kevin Goldstein and Keith Law say that Stubbs deserves the CF gold glove, and they both are much more in tune with their scouting eye and what scouts think. I honestly trust their opinion more than mine or yours on the subject matter.
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you don't trust mmy opinion?
do you not know what my qualifications to judge baseball are?
I have a computer, with an internet connection, and I have an email address so I could create this account, and the google skills to find this place.
Plus I was born in the late 80s, so I am special and everything I do matters!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Dude, your last sentence is making us all look bad
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair, it's his face that makes us look bad
/OooooooooooSickBurn
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dur
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by BK on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that guy looks like me, if i had different glasses
who is he?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I played softball with that feller in '09
I was given 1B as a courtesy (undeservedly) and he was pushed to LF.
Let me say this – that guy has played ball. The first game we played I watched him cut off a ball on the line and nail the cutoff, purely by instinct. It completely changed my view of him, to be honest.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Is that C. Trent? I always liked him.
I used to enjoy his daily musings when he kept his blog.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
You are my baseball brother
the mirror image of my baseball soul
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
for posterity. Thanks, Vole:
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions 12 recs
I was gonna post that.
BITCHES, I GET GREEN’D COMMENTS WITHOUT EVEN POSTING IN THE THREAD
by thevole on Jan 11, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I consider myself more of a patron of greenable works then a greenable commentor.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn't agree more.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Fully bolded comment
Nice.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
He's a witch!! Burn him!
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
He turned me into a Newt!
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
This guy is an idiot.
Terribly ignorant of the Reds system. It’s a little shallow, but Walt didn’t trade anyone but Sappelt who was going to contribute this year.
*Wood
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Not convinced Wood would have contributed.
Or if so, how much. You’re right though, I forgot about him. He was depth we traded. SP depth is now…
Cueto, Leake, Latos, Arroyo, Bailey, Chapman, Klinker? Reineke
As long as Cueto, Latos, and Leake don't suck or get hurt
the Reds will be okay with question marks in the bottom of their rotation, they could make a midseason trade if need be, I am sure there will be a decent averagish pitcher out there some where. If Latos does he job the Reds won’t need to land an ace, just somebody steady.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Carroll, Villareal
Sulbaran after a couple months at Louisville.
by poojols on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sulbaran is a dark horse for 2013
he could end up getting Arroyo’s spot when Arroyo leaves.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
That's really optimistic
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I think he could move two levels in two years.
But, he would really have to take off.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think he is at the age where he really needs to take off
if he isn’t MLB ready in 2014, he probably won’t have much of a future in front of him.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Arroyo will leave after the 2013 season
Sulbaran is in AA now, I don’t think expecting him to be big league ready by 2014 is crazy optimistic.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Possibly, I hope so
I was more implying the 2013 date was optimistic, to say the least
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
2013 is optimistic but possible
he wouldn’t be the first guy to start in AA and end in AAA.
He seemed to fix his control problems last year, so maybe he can start to move quickly.
Expecting him to do anything in 2012 is just asking for disapointment.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Paper-thin contender?
Were any of the players traded to San Diego or Chicago going to put the Reds over the top if the starter was injured? The Reds dealt a portion of their future to ensure a strong chance to contend in 2012 and 2013.
The Cardinals feature a strong minor league system, but Cincinnati’s remains solid and with the addition of three top-60 draft picks next season figures to improve even more. While the Reds significantly depleted the upper levels of their system, they acquired three high-quality pitchers without gutting the farm.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
The reds farm is now filled with a ton of high ceiling guys, but nothing is guaranteed.
If a couple of them have strong seasons then we could see the farm system jump again.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Depth is nice
but it doesn’t mean squat if you don’t have quality in front of depth. The Reds were deep last year. So what.
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it's not the depth of the staff, it's the power up front.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not the motion of the ocean? Crap, I've been doing it wrong all this time
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
it doesn't matter if you can hit the bottom of a tuna can
but it matters if you can bang the shit out of the sides of it
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
It's an interesting comparison to what the Brewers did for 2011/2012.
I feel like the Brewers had less to give up, but they gave up what they needed.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know... the Brewers gave up an awful lot.
Their farm system was ranked dead last after all the deals.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Marcum/Greinke/K-Rod are way better than what the Reds have received.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, because they received two starters.
I thought we were talking in term of prospects?
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know anymore. I'm not making any sense.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
it did get them to the postseason
Once you’re in the postseason, it’s pretty much a crapshoot.
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troof
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
huh?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
How is this a risk?
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
"I don't know how I spelled Madson so terribly wrong..."
Get to teaching him, Justin!
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Walt should go out and sign Coco and Wood just to be a dick.
You know Jim Bowden would.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I think Wood, at $2MM, would still be a nice signing.
I just don’t think it’s the best use of cash that we don’t have.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
There's an SIS topic.. What unwise things would you do with money you don't have?
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd get breast implants
I wouldn’t have them installed. It would just be nice to have an extra pair around to fondle.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
You can buy these at Fredrick's of Hollywood
They’re called “breast cutlets” — for reals.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Jim Day has two pair
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
by Madville on Jan 14, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
One for wearing, one for fondling?
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
you can probably get those for free
if you know someone in the medical field.
Apparently, they are sometimes dropped on the floor. When that happens, they can’t be implanted, since they are no longer sterile. They end up as paperweights and the like, or just thrown away.
A friend of mine wanted to get really tiny ones to implant in her Siamese cat after she had him fixed. She missed the “fifth point.”
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So, I try for something outrageous......
…..and reality is already way ahead of me.
Yeah, par for the course.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Reminds me..
In 1900, an American civil engineer called John Elfreth Watkins made a number of predictions about what the world would be like in 2000. How did he do? ….
“Photographs will be telegraphed from any distance. If there be a battle in China a hundred years hence, snapshots of its most striking events will be published in the newspapers an hour later…. photographs will reproduce all of nature’s colours.”
When I read this article yesterday I was thinking that I should share it with all the geeks here.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for posting that!
Did you read the original document?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I have not. Thankya.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Ha! I think these are different from the medical ones.
You’re suppose to put them in your bra to make your boobs look bigger. I’m not sure why the nipple is necessary.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I guess you could say that the nipple
is as useless as tits on a boar?
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Iz for decoration!
In Hollywood we call those “chicken cutlets.”
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, can you tell us rumors and stories about movie stars using human growth hormones and stuff like that?
I hear it’s a big thing, pardon my pun.
Seriously though, what do you know about it?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
I know nothing more than what has been in the papers about Stallone.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
Then what do you call these in Hollywood?
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Fake boobs, of course
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
TAAAAAAAATTIES!
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody in Hollywood eats meat
. . . besides, you know, human souls
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Take bets on me dying within 30 days
2) ?
3) PROFIT!!!
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Today, we all live in Madville.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I guess Heyman was correct
The twitters was abuzz with folks saying he was nothing but a Boras shill last night.
He seems more linked in than Fya.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
by obc2 on Jan 11, 2012 11:49 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
My dead great grandmother's deceased sheltie is more linked in than Fya.
by crolfer on Jan 11, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's like... a double negative, right?
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
So... when you die, your dead pets come back to life?
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
by andromache on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
*
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More importantly, this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCBZ6NSfVhY&feature=player_detailpage
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
The soil of a man's heart is stonier...
a man grows what he can and he tends it.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
x
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
To Boras clients, yes.
Sometimes he gets that information first. I don’t think Jocketty or any Reds source has commented yet.
and I think this all happened really fast.
which has been Walt’s calling card this off season.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Fay says
the Reds won’t make it official for several days.
Hopefully Boras won’t be a dick. As Fay points out, the deal with the Phillies was seen as all but done, then fell through at the last minute.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
FWIW
I thought he was just doing his shill duties when he said “talks are serious.” That pretty standard for Heyman when a Boras client needs a bump. I mostly believed him after he said there was an agreement. His rep would take a big hit for being wrong on the latter, but not so much on the former.
And 90% of the time, Heyman breaks the story on Boras’ clients signing every time.
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Butt puppet!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
PUSSY BASKET
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
So who's the presumptive bullpen now?
Madson, Marshall, Bray, Massett, LeCure, Ondrusek, Arredondo?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
You know what's funny,
a couple of weeks ago I was perfectly fine with Bray and/or Lecure as closer.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I had your standards.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
She looks like some kind of sex bot
I want a lady who wasn’t constructed in a lab.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
like Dr. Who?
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
by UncleWeez on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If she's a sex bot, then I'd be all about some bot sex.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
It's overrated.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
I'm hurt that you would say that now.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
same'd.
But the difference between 70 innings of Marshall or 60 innings of Ondrusek is huge.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah,
The bullpen looks great now for sure.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
Right now the bullpen could be tops in the ML.
It may not be as good as the Braves, but it is really close.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
is the Braves bullpen as deep as the Reds?
most bullpens, even when everyone is healthy, have one or two pitchers who are bad and should only pitch in lopsided games.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Braves have 3 guys who got way too many innings last year
I don’t think they have quality depth.
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
They don't have the depth, but I'm not going to drop them yet with Kimbrel and Venters.
Plus, I don’t like saying my team has the best something. It is a karma thing.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't one of those guys blow out an elbow or shoulder late last year?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I don't think Kimbrel or Venters did.
Though, they did wear down at the end.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Moylan's who I was thinking of!
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Yeah, that's right
He was kinda the third guy, and O’Flaherty took his spot and pitched well. (0.98 ERA!)
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps
I wouldn’t be shocked if LeCure is optioned to AAA and Bailey serves as the long man, due to options.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
name 5 pitchers who will start ahead of Bailey?
Unless you just mean "they won’t need a long man until [x date] sort of thing?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t think Bailey will spend the year in the bullpen. But if the Reds are serious about Chapman not going to AAA, the Reds rotation won’t have room for Bailey to open the season.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think this is stuff that won't be ironed out til ST
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Latos
Arroyo, Leake, Cueto, Chapman?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Not Chapman
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I agree, ST is where its at
Dusty and Walt sit down with Leake, Chapman, Bailey, and LeCure (and in my dream world, Arroyo). They say, lookit, there’s 2 (or 3) slots available, and there’s 4 (or 5) of you guys. Go on out there and show us what you’ve got.
No one is handed the role and told, “Perform, or else. There is no plan B.” Rather than motivating by fear of failure, they are motivated by opportunity to succeed.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Leake earned his spot
he was a fine pitcher all of last year, he shouldn’t be bounced from the rotation based on the unreliable and small sample size that is spring training.
Also Arroyo probably shouldn’t be either, his career has been a fine body of work until last year, so give him 6-8 weeks to prove himself in the regular season.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 13, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
It wouldn't surprise me to see LeCure in Louisville
They might stretch him out to be SP depth. Maybe Jordan Smith takes his BP spot.
by poojols on Jan 11, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Last year pitching was the problem
And Walt managed to add, the best not-so available SP, the best RP available, and a closer that was completely out of our league. That’s 300+ innings of badass.
BTW he managed to do that by only increasing payroll about 8.5 million, he has done an absolutely unbelievable job this off-season.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
it cost the Reds more than $8.5M
it cost them 3 top 10 prospects, and a young MLB ready starting pitcher.
I like the moves but to say it only cost $8.5M is insane.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Prospects are stupid!
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say "it only cost"
I just discussed the payroll increase.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Pitching along with timely hitting and scoring runs consistently
No #2 hitter
A 3rd baseman who was hurt most of the year
No LF
and….
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
no team on a budget is perfect, every team has holes
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
No Kidding !!!
Wow…
Holy Moly!
No Shit…
If only I’d known
Live and Learn
Blow Me….Down
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
you are acting like the Reds roster looks something like this.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
and by only trading 2 prospects
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, Sheldon's article is on the front page of reds.com
but the reds “haven’t confirmed” it.
Does that seem weird to anyone else?
Physical is pending and they are hashing out some incentives.
Just normal stuff.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
More importantly
They haven’t denied it.
They won’t confirm it until it is finalized.
And Sheldon doesn’t work for the Reds.
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I think he works for Selig.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Correct, he works for no man
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
by ChiDa on Jan 11, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does he have no name?
Well, that right there may be the reason you’ve had dificulty finding gainful employment. You see, in the mart of competitive commerce……
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm a Dapper Dan man.
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ken, you sold everlasting soul to the devil to learn how to play the guitar?
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
WE THOUGHT YOU WAS A TOAD!
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by UncleWeez on Jan 11, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ok, this made me laugh in the middle of a coffee shop.
You win, sir.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
You mean like the back of a VW?
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you boys are dumber than a bag of hammers
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Mama said you was run over by a train!
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
I guess the question is:
do the reds have control over what goes on reds.com? Or is that all MLB’s doing?
No, they have no control
MLB.com reporters function as independent journalists.
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I'm pretty sure MLB.com is run by MLB Advanced Media
which, while owned by MLB, functions as a separate entity from the teams.
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Eh, I can't see them as truly independent
They’re not propaganda mouthpieces, but at the same time the ultimate boss/parent is MLB. I’m sure MLBAM is a separate legal entity, but practically, I wouldn’t put it above someone in the Commish’s office to try to influence a piece on mlb.com.
MLB? yes
individual teams? doubtful. You might see them pull an article, but I doubt they’d prevent something from ever going up. Teams have little say in what goes on certain parts of their website. From what I’ve heard, it’s a pain for them to even get some things up that they want up for advertising purposes.
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they have some control.
For instance, if the Reds lose to the Mets, the pro-Reds angle goes up on the Reds’ site and vice-versa.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
That's not control
Each team has someone writing a recap for them. So, Reds angle goes on Reds site. Mets on Mets site.
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Female Input Needed:
Where does Madson rank in the only category my wife cares about? Obviously lower than Votto. But would you rank him higher than Bruce?
With his wife Sarah.
by jacob brumfield on Jan 11, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Not bad.
I need to see him in person while he is wearing baseball pants in order to properly evaluate him, though.
Joey and Bronson are my favorites for aesthetic purposes. This guy appears to be a solid Heisey-level midrange dude. Definitely above Bruce and Stubbs.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Bronson? Really?
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
she likes Bronson
There’s no accounting for taste. ;-)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I bet she also likes Nickelback.
/ducks, waits for impact
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I admit to having some Nickleback on my iPod.
It’s good, fast stuff for the gym.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
I can't sigh with enough exasperation to express how I feel about this.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
If it helps, it's strictly gym fare
I put it in the same category as the techno crap from the 80s and 90s that helps me keep pace during sprints.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Sorry to give you a hard time
But surely there are thousands of other bands that could provide the same service without being so soul-suckingly awful. They are like a black hole of soul.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
It's okay, I can take it.
I also enjoy the occasional Maroon 5 song. I’m crazy like that. ;-)
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Look, I'm sorry, but this just isn't gonna work out.
I want my records back, preferably intact.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
don't be silly
Nickelback and Maroon 5 never released any LPs!
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Hmmm, I don't think that's correct
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Send your friends to get them back and then change your number.
#NukkahKnowsWhatImTalkingAbout #AwesomeSongIsAwesome
did your ex go kinda crazy?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I think we agreed that she got fat
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
A Cosby Sweater
Whoever lives past today and comes home safely will rouse himself each year on this day, show his neighbors his scars, and tell embellished stories of all their great feats of battle.
i think you are missing a verb or something.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
WeeeeeeeeUuwwwwwww WeeeweeeUuiiihhhheeeeewwwww
Grammar police’s resident constable – To Protect and Serve!
Misuse it and lose it!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have some Maroon 5.
Select tracks are funky-tasty.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Gross.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Not gross so much as whack.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I can neither confirm nor deny the veracity of this allegation.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
I like the +rec'd
but it would have been even better if you hadn’t actually rec’d it
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Precisely.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Nickle Creek was a great colloboration of traditional Bluegrass and beautiful contemporary young kids singing.
Sarah’s misfortune was in indeed a topic
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
we'll have to figure out our bro'n out playlist
although that Topeka song you suggested was solid
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I know, I know. I have no idea why I like Bronson
I hate guys with long hair. I hate skinny guys. I think dark complected guys are much better looking than blondes. I hate dudes who call themselves “musicians.”
But somehow he does it for me. No explainin’ it.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
he is so wrong for you, you know it has to be right!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm, the new pics of Bruce are pretty compelling. If that keep up, advantage Jay.
But if Madson grows some hair, that would be good for him. He kind of reminds me of Mr. Clean
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
I think his face might be too big for his head.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
But I want to be not shallow, so let me just say they both seem lovely.
Despite the rumors. Let’s hope we’re not as bad as Philly fans.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
heeez head iz too beeg for heez body
there’s a little reference for those of you with children.
That you know about, that is.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
ze great sword fighter!
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
he kinda reminds me of Chris Carpenter
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Don't ever say anything like that ever again. Ever.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
this isn't even trolling
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Cut it out.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
How'd you find a picture of Carpenter with Tony Larussa?
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by Slyde on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I turned safe search off
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Looks like the shingles are flaring up again.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Carpenter would side with the Sith.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Carpenter isn't even cool enough to be on the Dark Side
if he’s anyone, he’s Jar-Jar fucking Binks
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by UncleWeez on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for combining the two most despisable things I can think of
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, look at that, they both have short hair
by ken on Jan 11, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
so i am crazy?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
nahh, I see it too
I wouldn’t have necessarily put the two together, but side by side I see a mild resemblance. Probably because of the round heads, whiteness, and short hair
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
yeah
i wouldn’t say they are twins, but I would totally believe it if you told me they are brothers.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, RijoSabes!
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by UncleWeez on Jan 11, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wait, explain this
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
We are also all dumb apparently
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, this is an insult isn't it?
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
no
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Yes it is, but I'm just foolin'
Everyone likes you and thinks you are smart.
/pats RijoSabes on back, taping a “someone hit this guy with a truck” sign on him
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing I don't know how to read
and have already been hit by a truck. Which, duh, means you can’t be hit by one again.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
New pics of Bruce you say? Do share.
I always thought he was kind of adorable in a punky little brother kind of way, but I never saw him as particularly handsome.
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent
That means he’s been serious about offseason conditioning, as I predicted.
He’s going to make all you non-believers eat crow dicks.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ooh, very nice. Thanks! I generally stay away from NFL threads, so I missed that.
I may have to rethink Jaybirds’ standing in this race. And I also have to say, I was quite in awe of Jay’s forearms last spring when I was drawing them. This picture makes them look even more impressive!
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
"I was quite in awe of Jay’s forearms last spring when I was drawing them"
this really amuses me, because I don’t know the context.
“Let me draw you”
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x
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I struggled to word that in a way that wasn't creepy. Guess I failed.
I did an illustration last year that was supposed to be a generic Reds player, but I used a photo of Jay for reference. I spent a lot of time drawing those forearms.
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't
But I heart Bruce.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Jay Bruce is almost exactly 10 years younger than me
I think that’s part of my block with thinking he’s good looking. I’ve never been the cougar type.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
I dunno
I think it has to be more than a ten year gap for it to be considered cougar territory
Fuck Murray Chass
Does the "half your age plus seven" rule apply here?
by poojols on Jan 11, 2012 1:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why are cougars called 'cougars'?
Do female cougars steal baby cougars from other cougars’ nests and then raise them and mate with them later?
I need to know before I issue my ruiling here.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
that rule is just a suggestion
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
one day
You’ll be 60. At least 10 years older than anyone in MLB. Then what?
Like Rita Rudner says…men never mature. Might as well get a young one. ;-)
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Hawkeye can her choice of just about any man she wants...
Yet she shows discretion and thoughtfulness…
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
I say BK
He is a man of integrity and has a good job.
Will she embrace footie?
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Depends on where ya stick it, AMIRITE FELLAS????
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this is a solid suggestion
if she does embrace footie, they can get up early on Saturdays & Sundays and watch footie together, while BK makes breakfast, allowing Hawkeye to get a couple minutes more sleep, and then put on their matching snuggies and enjoy the footie while eating the BK made breakfast
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
the new Clean It Up 2012 acceptable phrase is Mod Damn
common Mads!
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I wouldn't use Bruce as a standard.
Madson is up there. Below Joey, competing with BP and Chapman for 2nd place, just ahead of Heisey and Stubbs.
I’ll give him an extra point for having a wife who looks like a real person. Makes him seem approachable. :)
by the finest muffins on Jan 11, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta have somebody at home taking care of the kids and cleaning while you're out getting road strange, amirite?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Steve Phillips'd
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing about the wife.
Cute in a girl-next-door way. I hate the inexplicable combinations, like when you see Jeff Garcia married to a playboy bunny. Or Jeff Garcia married to a woman.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
by Hawkeye00 on Jan 11, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Seeing Jeff Garcia with his wife
makes me think there’s hope for me yet.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
x
Seriously? Dude, you can do better. I’m fairly sure that at least 85% of that hot ass is painstakingly painted, lifted, tucked, and bleached at least once a week.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
And what about his wife?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
by ChiDa on Jan 11, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Hey-O!
rec’d for a joke that never gets old.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
She's a beard
Maybe I just think that because he looks like Boggs from Shawshank Redemption
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wow, he does
he also sorta looks like Mick Cronin.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
true story
my 10th grade AP Euro teacher is Mick Cronin’s sister
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
My 12th grade AP Euro teacher was a cardinals fan
and one of the worst teachers I ever had.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
My 12th grade AP English teacher
had a big rack. She was one of the best teachers I ever had.
by KSE on Jan 11, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I made my 12th grade Calculus teacher have a shit fit in a classic "Good Will Hunting" moment, three years before the movie came out
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
The meeting with the school counseler and principal was classic
“Look, we know you were right……just let him retire peacefully.”
It was an interesting 3 months or so.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I have a similar story
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
ha...damn straight
she also had a funny haircut and a bad attitude
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
I didn't know my ex-gf was a teacher
One more thing to add to the list I suppose….
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I love this type of internet commenting
If that girl was to hit on you in a bar when you were single, you would have shit yourself. The same as the rest of us.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I think it's brave of you to come out to all of us like this.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wait.
Jch, tell us more about how she’s hitting on us!
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know
I don’t find that kind of woman attractive.
If she were to hit on me in a bar though, when I was single, I’d probably tag her. Still not attractive, though.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
This was my line of thinking
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I bet there's not an ass-hair's difference
between your line of thinking and a warm jar of mayonnaise.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vegas Bookmakers set the opening line on her hitting on you at a bar at..
45743095834598345834248957495794385734982574375893475234753473987258347209857348583750293847583475398470832758907348705734758934754275897348572457257349805724398570342758903475234897532984573894572349857348975934857234985734289572309847598275097395 to 1
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
See, I'm attracted to fun.
And she looks fun.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Fake boobs are interesting in an intimate setting,
particularly large ones. They seem interesting at first, the novelty and all, but the hardness of them is disconcerting. Odd.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
And most have smelled like cocoa butter in my experience.
I assume that is to help with the skin stretching and all.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
did you hear the local plastic surgeon ad on WLW?
First 700 women in 2012 get $700 boobie jobs. Bargain!
they’re fantastic in swimsuits and formal dresses, not nearly as much fun as one would think for sleepovers and play dates.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
I don't like to spend my time
focusing too much on only one thing.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
What is a man with one eye supposed to so?
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
let's ask Yossustin
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
more truth
especially formal dresses
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Why would they be hard? Aren't they filled with saline?
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
or silicone
They don’t feel natural. Water balloons aren’t as soft as real boobs, and that’s pretty much what implants are. Also, scar tissue forms around them.
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It really depends on a lot of factors.
How supple and stretchy is her skin?
Are we starting flat, or can we put the implant under the pectoral muscle and/or the existing mammary glands?
Does she want to go too big?
Saline or silicone?
Does she maintain them regularly (surgically)?
Some have about as much give as a tennis ball, especially on a tiny gal where her skin is extra taut, or if she loses weight. Some feel so natural that an untrained hand might not know.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
It seems like it would be very uncomfortable for a woman to live with hard boobs
Although, I guess they would stay perky forever. That’s a plus.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I just can't imagine how you'd exercise
I’m a runner, and I’m happy to have small rack that I can squish flat with a sports bra. Hard, big boobs would HURT if you tried to run.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
sure, natural is usually the way to go
but you can get some soft fake ones
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
truth
they really are a novelty, and after a couple times the novelty wears off, although the different bounce during various positions and activities never ceases to fascinate and amaze me
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha, absolutely not
Because you’re above that.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Here's the deal:
She is, unarguably, attractive. She has proportions that appeal to men on a hard-wired basis. She has shiny hair, perfect skin, a tiny nose, and medium-to-above-average-sized eyes. She is facially symmetrical. She’s an attractive lady.
That said, Chuck doesn’t find her attractive as a person because she looks and dresses kinda slutty and he assumes she is a surgically-enhanced gold-digger. But Chuck is attracted to her physically. Unless there are outside factors, like an ex or a relative who looks like her, or some fetishism that excludes her, ALL dudes think she’s hot.
Also, since her ethnicity cannot be easily determined from this photo, Charlie has to disqualify her, as he is a profound and vigorous racist who wants the world to be as white as Mitt Romney in a blizzard. I’m sure of it. #JimDayLovesHisPets #Charlie’sPetsRNowDeadz
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:05 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
ALL dudes think she’s hot?
Quite a flat assertion there…
She has the appearance of a rather vapid person…
So from an appearance perspective she sure doesn’t appeal to all ‘Dudes’.
She may be smart and interesting…but she sure doesn’t look it…
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
that whole
“hard-wired” proportions thing is questionable at best. It’s based on studies of American college students and things like the analysis of Playboy centerfolds. IOW…a small sample size.
Cross-cultural studies shows that the most attractive waist to hip ratio varies by country and ethnicity. Youth, clear skin, and facial symmetry are about the only real universal markers of beauty in women, and that’s not enough to make a woman attractive to every man. I mean, you can see this just by looking at old paintings. The subjects were supposed to be stunning beauties of their time, and often to modern eyes they are not at all attractive.
I believe Charlie when he says he doesn’t think she’s all that. Yes, she’s closer than most to this culture’s ideal of beauty, but that doesn’t mean that every man finds her hot. Different people have different tastes – IMO, this is one of the things that sets us apart from other animals. In other primates, females have heat cycles, and any female in heat is wildly attractive to every male. That’s not the case for Homo sapiens, and one of the results is that no one female is attractive to every male (and vice-versa).
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by BubbaFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So we've evolved because of genetic variation and genetic variation could only have happened when some opportunistic monkeyman ancestor of ours said...
“Ah, to hell with it. I know her pheromones aren’t blinding me into a lustful frenzy but dammit if I’m not horny enough to just bang the fat one.”
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
in the past
the fat one was the one who was sexiest. Not many Kate Moss types, if you look back at historical depictions of beauty.
I have a book about paleolithic art. The coffee table books show the gorgeous art done by priests and skilled artists, but most cave art was done by normal people. Basically, it was graffiti. They “signed” their work by handprints – blowing pigment around their hands to make an outline. They can tell from the handprint the age and sex of the person who made it. They range from small children to old people, male and female. But the vast majority was made by adolescent males, and they drew the same things adolescent males today do. Dicks and naked women. The naked women resembled the “Venus of Willendorf.” Huge boobs, huge butt, huge belly. Women who looked pregnant were often considered the sexiest.
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I think darthmom is right here.
Different body styles convey wealth and status in different modern societies, but I think in the caveman era everyone was pretty poor but probably looking for the people who looked most fertile.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 12, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
actually
People were extremely healthy and well-fed in the stone age. Judging from skeletal remains, they were as tall and robust as modern Europeans. Probably not too fat, because they exercised so much, but very well-nourished.
It was farming that caused disease, famine, etc. It packed people into smaller spaces, meaning disease and sanitation became problems. And it made people dependent on a few crops. In a bad year, farmers starve. In a bad year, hunter-gatherers just pick up and go somewhere else. They might have to eat food they don’t like as much, but they don’t starve. Many modern huntergathers can’t even conceive of starving to death.
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The poor thing was just a joke.
Since they didn’t have modern currency, etc.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, this was before saves
so they didn’t have to put up with a manager using their best pitcher as a mopup guy and letting some shmo get hammered when the leverage is high.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
by bbjones on Jan 12, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
wide hips, good for popping out babies
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
them's good child-bear'n hips
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Pregnant women are awesome
“Fire at will, gentlemen!”
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I think he's suggesting population control through sex with pregnant women
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
What BF said
I don’t find her physically attractive. To maintain the evolutionary bent of the conversation, I would argue that my response is one of self-preservation. When I look at this woman, I get the sense that she is toxic, much like a strong, handsome bull elk will steer clear of a mountain spring if it smells sulphurous.
To clarify my remarks from earlier, if she had come on to me when I was single, I likely would have slept with her. But that says more about my sexual desperation at the time than my level of attraction to her.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2012 8:11 AM EST up reply actions
this may be the funniest thread topic of all time
no one on this site would sleep with her b/c no one has the bank to get into the checkout line.
on a purely hypothetical basis every heterosexual male of sound mind and body on the site would pony up with her. any fella who says they wouldnt are either 1) lying 2)trolling or 3)batshit crazy.
Mads is exempted from survey due to lifetime mercury consumption, of course.
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by obc2 on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's a classic example of that game
Marry/Sleep with/Kill
or whatever it’s called. Everyone would sleep with this lady, but I think a lot of us see her as being less than ideal marriage material. I’ve never met her, sure, but a lot of the people I have met that are that obsessed with their self-image to the point of embracing plastic surgery to enhance their image would make poor long-term mates.
I'd do her drunk, wake up, and do her hungover.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not once she got a sober look at you ;)
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
too soon to play that game
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
She is very attractive,
but the Paris Hilton/Lindsey Lohan corollary applies. There’s disease in them thar hills.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Hammer, meet head of nail
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 12, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
your checkout line statement seals it
unless that woman is sexually desperate and begging for the first warm body in a bar and hitting on any of us, she ain’t takin’ any of us home unless we’re peelin’ off hundies to get in her undies
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, who would be the one sexual desperate to sleep with who in that equation?
let’s be honest
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I put him #2 behind Joey!
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
by kcgard2 on Jan 11, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
jesus fucking christ, kcgard2
enough with the gay jokes about Joey.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This is pretty funny
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
by kcgard2 on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i like that this went green.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Bruce is attractive?
really?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
how does Madson
have a higher WHIP than Cordero?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
BABIP
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
swooped in to beat the stats master!
We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
Nobody can explain that!
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
his lady friend is just kinky like that?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Word on the street is it's BABIP, but I'm gonna go with "because he touches himself at night"
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's in his contract that he is to stop doing that immediately.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
but he is one of the Ma-sty boys!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Save that spunk for the mound, boys!
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
BIP Roberts
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
MAGNETIC NECKLACES!!!
Brevity is the soul of wit.
by Heeringa on Jan 11, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BA Baracus and BIP Roberts
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions
Whoops, credit to you
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for making my deficit a little smaller.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Howabout a Johnny/Jonny platoon in left?
Sorry, Chris.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I've had enough of Jonny Johnson Gomes in Cincinnati
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
We get Damon, we dirrrrrrty.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think Damon makes sense
he pretty much has to be platooned with Heisey due to his age. If Fukudome (or any of the others available) get off to a hot start, Dusty will be tempted to give them the Gomes treatment. Damon can’t play much more than 80 games in the outfield without breaking down.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
He's played 140+ games since 1996
(Wow, didn’t expect that.) And he’s hit respectably the last two years. He probably still sees himself as a f/t player, and he might be right. He’s also less than 300 hits away from 3K, so he probably isn’t willing to settle for a platoon situation.
but recently he's been a DH for the great majority of those games
I forgot about the 3K hits, that’s a good point…He probably stays in the AL.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
Does he even play the field anymore?
I can’t see him moving to the NL either.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
he can
But not very often. Can’t stay healthy if he has to play LF. Bad feet, bad knees, bad hips, bad back. Never mind the shoulder and elbow. He’s run into too many walls.
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It all went downhill once he cut those beautiful locks
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
he had some good years after that
And he seems like a great guy personally. But he’s reached his DH days now. He’s the kind of guy who left it all on the field, and he’s paying the price now.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Couldn't somebody tell Dusty that Fukudome can't keep it up over a full year?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
what will
Chris Carpenter tell his son?
Jack McKeon on 2000 Reds "We have more MRI's than RBI's on this club."
an interesting idea
how much would he cost?
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Ooooooohhhhh, I dunno
Old man is old as hell. I suppose it’s half dozen one way, one or the other with guys like Ibanez, Damon, and Fukudome. I think I would prefer Fukudome though, as his OBP and defense are stronger.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure he made $12 million last year
He’s about as consistent as could be having played at least 137 games in each season since 2002.
Last year he played 144 games with .245 BA, .289 OBP, .419 SLG, 20 HR, 84 RBI
Its worth a shot to check out his price
Raul Ibanez is garbage
I’d rather have Ludwick even
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
i really want nothing to do with that .289 OBP
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Damon.
Damon!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Fukudome
And start the Reds invasion of Japan!
If they’re not mistaken for the Hiroshima Carp…
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Looks like Fernando Martinez was claimed by an NL Central Team
according to Enrique Rojas. He thinks it was the Astros, which would make sense, as F-Mart is a 5-tool prospect and the Astros sucked a lot last year.
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Or it was the Reds!
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by BigBabyBruce on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Weird, is he not allowed to say the team or something?
Or did Martinez tell him “I’ll give you the division, but that’s all for now!”
Grant Brisbee is reading RR!
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/1/11/2699587/ryan-madson-cincinnati-reds-contract-news/in/2314301
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
I like him, too.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I have a killer chicken recipe I think you'd like, Grant.
Want to come over some time?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
You guys are making me blush!
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 12, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Also
writes for Baseball Nation and is the polar opposite of Al Yellon.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Opposite of Yellon you say? I might have to give this feller a look.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Indeed
He’s one of my favorites on the internet. Top three, anyway.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
And, uh, waitaminute...
You got us fellas at #2? Garsh, I mean, jeez louise, I, uh, I dunno what to say.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, don't sell yourself short
You guys consistently put out intelligent, well written, funny stuff. That’s pretty rare on the internet
/dick joke
Fuck Murray Chass
I think jch brings up the average
as far as putting out goes
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
I have to do something, I'm sure as shit not going to help in the "intelligent" section
/FlicksBooger
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I frankly expected better from our lead blogger.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm only the lead blogger when I'm pulling HoF tail
/TwoNotches
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
He also brings up the STD average
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
And stenchy.
/smegma’d
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he does a great job
One of the few bloggers that consistently makes me laugh out loud with no one else in the room. I think that’s a hard thing to do in text.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think Bois/Hall/Bisbee are where it's at.
Hall’s my favorite of the three, and Bois/Bisbee are interchangable.
I haven’t read anything outside of SBN, Fangraphs, and Run of Play in forever.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
No insidethebook?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
what's that?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Tom Tango and MGL's site
My regulars are RR, Insidethebook, BBTF, others on a less-than-daily basis
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly don't care enough about baseball outside of the Reds for that.
I’m sure it’s great stuff, but just not anything I can get into. I couldn’t even do Pitchers & Poets.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yet you do Fangraphs, O.o
If the Reds ceased to exist, I’d just pick another team, but I’m weird like that.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I've just put a lot of heart and soul into the team.
During the playoffs I’ll get excited about some other dudes. And I’m not like this in other sports. An esteemed RR has called me “the sluttiest sport fan in history.”
I’m fruitless in rationalizing my sports fandom.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just giving you a hard time.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
word
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
What I liked most about this signing
1. No long-term commitment to a relief pitcher
2. We get the comp picks for not re-signing Cordero.
Jayson Stark says mutual option for 2013
allowing some of the money to be pushed to next year.
Follow on Twitter: @jluckhaupt. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!
Walt's gonna retire before all this deferred money is owed, isn't he?
Someone else is gonna get stuck with it.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
you would turn down a chance to be the Reds GM, based on that?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
called my bluff.
i was trying to use reverse psychology.
Brevity is the soul of wit.
technically, that's not deferred money
Spreads guaranteed money across two different annual budgets. Accounting trickeration.
Follow on Twitter: @jluckhaupt. Buy The Wire-to-Wire Reds today!
Freeaking out today about this Madson signing. Imagine for a second if Bruce finally pops off for 40 HR and a .300 average!
EEEEEK!
\idon’thavecoolgifssorry!
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
It's gonna be cool.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen...
penguins don’t live in the northern hemisphere and polar bears don’t live in the southern hemisphere.
Sign Roy O
but Polar Bears do love Newcastle though
and they’re known for their taste in music
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
by UncleWeez on Jan 11, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Clearly they are on vacation, or have imported the penguin in through a local vendor.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
Speaking of BBQ
I’d suggest staying away from Boners BBQ, even though the name is oh so tantalizing.
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Wow. I bet that place is closed by May
You can’t treat people like that in a service industry and survive.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Who the hell would eat at a place called "Boners" anyway?
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
most of us here at RR
Would probably want to check out just because of the name.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Or check in, depending,.....
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
foursquare'd
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
my uncle had his wedding party at the LA zoo.
It was the best wedding I’ve ever been to. I’m strongly considering doing the same one day.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Some of the coolest places to get married in LA sound really odd at first.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:07 AM EST up reply actions
There's a Slyde/Heyman feud brewing on Twitter!!!
And I have no idea how to link a Tweet.
"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan
by RedinWrigleyville on Jan 11, 2012 2:48 PM EST reply actions
Wow - Heyman really punched him in the dick
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
See, I clicked on Slyde's twitter
but I didn’t see anything about Heyman. So back off, fuckface.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
/turns the other cheek
/realizes “fuckface” refers to whole face
/weeps
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
by UncleWeez on Jan 11, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
We prefer the term "shaved pussy" here at RR
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
FUCKFACE
Note to self: turn safesearch on before googling FUCKFACE
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
What a little wuss
Just kidding.
I must say that this has inspired me to actually start using my twitter account. I have one, but it is even more useless than my facebook, I’ve decided to start actually using the damn thing, just so I know what everyone is talking about.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not sure why he came after me, but whatever
I honestly don’t like the guy to the point that if I responded with my true feelings it would probably blow up, so I felt it better just to be deferential.
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So from what I gather
all you said was that you would like to see more sources other than Heyman confirming the deal? And he went off like that?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
I also said:
“To clarify, Heyman rumors about Boras clients need to be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. He frequently “leaks” stuff to drive up bidding."
and
“That’s not to say #Reds aren’t talking to Madson (I hope they are), but it’s far from a given just because Heyman reports it.”
I imagine he took exception to those tweets, which are hardly libelous (and definitely aren’t slanderous). I think he took exception because I’m “media”.
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Does he even really know who you are?
If I were somebody like Heyman I feel like I would ignore most the tweets that mention me.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
well, he obviously searched his name and found me because I never mentioned his twitter handle
but my profile says I work for FS Ohio, so I guess he assumed…
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that is really unprofessional on his part
and I am kind of embarrassed for him.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
do we really even know who you are?
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I mean, whatever
It’s certainly not worth starting something over. He’s made a good living doing what he do, and if he’s so uncomfortable with it that he feels the need to defend himself against the obvious, then, well, I don’t know what to tell him. Best to just say “sorry” and forget it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Dude said Theriot is an "infielder with a great bat."
If that’s not evidence enough that he’s clueless, I don’t know what is.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
So, he basically compared him to the Natural
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Actually
He said “excellent”. What in the fuck.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Also
my co-worker is eating a hot pocket right now. I can’t stop laughing at her.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Butt puppet!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Is it the cheesburger one?
Because we got samples of cheeseburger soup last night on the RR burger tour that tasted a lot like the inside of a hot pocket.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
where did you guys go last night?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
how was it on a scale of 1-10?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
isn't redreporter.com the burger blog?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Speaking of, send me y'alls reviews
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 11, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, good fucking luck
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Solid 9
Seriously, it was delicious. I recommend the place highly.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
I looked over their menu
they have an impressive menu overall.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
not that that means their food can follow it up.
But I will take you word on the burger, and if I am ever out in Wyoming I will check them out, if I need lunch.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
The best part is that it's 10 minutes from my office
It’s my new go-to place when attorneys who are paying come and take us to lunch.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
What are you doing Friday night? Up for a West Side visit?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I am not sure
Christmas break, and some slow times since have killed my finances.
Why do you ask?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
West side burgers Friday if you're interested in calling me an asshole to my face :)
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I don't have enough courage to call actual assholes assholes to their face.
mark me down as a maybe.
Is this a burger on the West Side of Cincinnati, a burger at West Side Cafe in Hamilton, or something completely different?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
nut up or shut up, kid
Neighbor’s, 8:00 Friday night.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
i will consider it
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for letting us know
If you grow up and get into big boy pants, email me and I’ll send you my cell number so we can coordinate.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Well, who could resist an invitation like that.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
by andromache on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
ha
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I have yet to meet you, so......
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
then climb on in, your big head is welcome
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I was just commenting what a polite offer it was. :)
I’m going to see Langhorn Slim on Friday. Whee!
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
Wheee! Indeed.
I’ve wanted to see him for a while. He did a show with Josh Ritter a few years back that I would definitely watch if I got a time machine.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
He's going to be in Louisville and Lexington in January.
I think I’m going both times.
Is there a mod so powerful he can ban himself?
I'd love to! Thanks for asking!
Awh fuckadoodle doo, I’m moving in a day!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 12, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
where's it at?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
It smells generically hot pockety. I’m not one to ask questions though, so it will probably be a mystery forever.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
It was a philly steak and cheese
So there you have it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Still pissed I didn't get to go, heard it was good
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Oh yeah
and good for you for being considered “media”. Right on, man.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta think
one reason he got upset is because it’s true.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
That's what I was thinking.
But I haven’t read any of the exchange.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
it really isn't much of an exchange
Slyde said hardly anything, and Heyman made like a 22 tweet statement about Slyde.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I feel the same way
That combined with a “media” person coming out about it really makes him look bad. I really think he misunderstood my title though.
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either way, i bet his mom's real proud that he stood up to a little punk like you
Brevity is the soul of wit.
Hey man, you're a published author!
You’re like the big time!
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Real niggas don't flex nuts, 'coz real nigga know they got 'em
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's still cook to kegel though, right?
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
You can make your coffee however you want, buddy
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I like my coffee how I like my women
With a lot of milk, no sugar and with minimal acidity.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I like my women like I like my cheese.
American, single, fat free. Or something. It’s from a song.
by crolfer on Jan 11, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Able to be purchased in packs of 24?
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Individually wrapped
and full of artificial preservatives.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Melts when you get them hot!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
goes well with ground beef?
can be shredded?
smells if you leave them in the refrigerator too long?
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Causes an allergic reaction that inflames my bowels?
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
me too
Black, ground up, and in the freezer.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I like my women like I like my coffee...
…slutty.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, I need some of that
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
America runs on "dunkin'"
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Ever fucked a cup of coffee, ChiDa? It'll wake a brotha up in the morning
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I'm not interested in burning my dick off
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I think you are supposed to put the coffee in her mouth first.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I meant "cool." Damn.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
probably because you became a trending topic
you handled it well. Too bad he’s a lurker on RRer and now knows it was an empty apology.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Um, it's a Google Spreadsheet, not excel
gawd.
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by Slyde on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
my google chrome has been freezing up today
I think it might be my computer dying
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
wait, Slyde is Joel Luckhaupt?
The same Joel Luckhaupt who wrote a book about the 1990 wire-to-wire world champion Cincinnati Reds?!?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
That guy probably trolls the interwebs looking for attention and plugging his book.
Which, by the way, makes a great gift.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:08 AM EST up reply actions
NOT THE DICK!
Merry Who-Dey, everybody!!
by supergrover on Jan 11, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
this is funny the way this remark just dangles.
Never say "TRADE VOTTO"
by mdccclxix on Jan 11, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
HOLY SHIT - it made MLBtraderumors
Jon Heyman of CBSsport.com punches Joel Luckhaupt in dick
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
It's official then
I wonder if they know anything about the Reds trading Dontrelle Willis. I heard a rumor that was possible.
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remember what's worse than being punched in the dick by a guy with 100,000+ followers
being nobody he doesn’t give a shit about.
I bet C Trent told him to call you out to fuck with you, and get the Redsblog establishment to take him seriously. After all you were dogging his meal ticket.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly don't care if he gives a shit about me
which is why I politely apologized. And given that Heyman just started at CBS, I doubt CTR cares that much about him, especially since he knows who I am and I don’t believe I’ve ever pissed him off (though I could be wrong).
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C Trent blocked me on twitter because I retweeted someone who said he looked like Chaz Bono
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
thats not an inaccurate statement
i dont think C Trent likes truthiness. he was awfulturrible on the radio, which was disappointing. he definitely has a face made for radio.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
And a body made for sub-woofers.
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
he's got a body made for the ice planet of Hoth
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 12, 2012 10:55 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And I thought he smelled bad on the OUTSIDE!
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
who hasn't blocked you?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Brandon Phillips
One of my fav warmups is throwing the football, but lil bruh @404pete just keep throwing these DAMN #Tebow’s #NoBueno
I think that’s an insult to Tebow.
don't make it less funny
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
He's grown on me, but it's simply an objective fact that his throws are wobbly.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 11, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Objectively, Tebow sucks
but not as badly as the Steelers’ defensive gameplan…..awful
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say he sucks
He doesn’t turn the ball over and he gets the ball into the endzone. He’s an awful passer, but doesn’t suck.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, how about barely mediocre?
He would be an excellent back-up, but he’s a guy that should always be fearing for his job. That huge windup actually helps him throw a decent deep ball. But he’s terrible on the short and intermediate routes.
Teblow will go down as one of the most overrated players in NFL history. He best position is really H-back.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
did you catch Dilfer's analysis after the playoff win?
Tebow definitely doesnt suck. He pressures defenses into stacking the box, which makes them vulnerable to the long ball.
he plays Tecmo style ball!
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
It's his very oddness that makes him interesting.
People hate him for a number of reasons, one of which is that he doesn’t fit the conventional QB mold. But he seems to be a very good runner, and he gets his team really pumped up, and he’s largely innocent of all the crap put on his shoulders. I don’t really care if he is religious, that’s not my business. Plenty of athletes make a superficial show of faith anyways, and for Tebow it’s certainly heartfelt. But what’s most interesting about him is that his team keeps winning games even as people go bezerk about his method.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 11, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't like any athlete
who is too showy with his/her faith…..in my experience, the people I have met who are most showy with their faith tend to have the most skeletons in their closet….overcompensation. And the Bible warns against public displays of prayer.
And there are plenty of players who are super-religious….why is Teblow singled out for it?
I’ve consciously avoided ESPN and all sports talk radio this week because of him……thanks Steelers, thanks for inflicting this on a nation.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Is he really showy about his faith though?
He has a stupid thing he does with his body when he is excited, but most of his teammates do 90 second choreographed dances in the end zone when they score a TD. Does he talk about his religion any more than any other professional athlete who thanks Jesus and God and their parents in heaven and so forth when they are interviewed post-game? In a game where Tebow is playing the stupid Steelers and a QB who is, if not a rapist then certainly a misogynist, I’m rooting for the guy who seems to be a genuinely good guy as well as an interesting player.
The ESPN stuff is certainly a fair point but you can’t blame Tebow for that. The hoopla around him is stupid but he didn’t really ask for it.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 11, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the ESPN stuff is the real stinging point
It’s not that he’s anymore showy about his religion than anyone else, it’s that we are so much more conscious of it because it’s all we hear about. I don’t hate Tim Tebow. I hate Thom Brennaman.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly
A successful Tim Tebow make sports unwatchable/unlistenable. That’s why he must not be successful.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
this is a foolish statement
The Tebow game had more viewers in Cincinnati the Bengals playoff game.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
more Tebow is a good thing
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
amen.
It’s too bad that I find Brennaman unlistenable. He’s the American Dream. Where else can you ride your father’s coattails to a job making sexist and racist comments to the dregs of humanity?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
@
I could go on, but nepotism is the second oldest profession.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't think Vince Jr. counts
He bought his father’s mediocre company and took over the industry with it.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
he didn't just buy his father's company
he compted against his father’s company and put his father out of business.
Where's the ultimate no-talent hack?
Joe Buck
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
McCarver!
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck you and your whore of a mother
"He wears his hat like a left hander!"
by TimMcCarver on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bring it muthafucka! I got mo icewater fo yo ass.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Fuck you, you fucking fuck!
Go fucking die in a fuck factory where your face gets fucked with a bushel of fucks!
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
Though a friend of mine unknowingly paraphrased you Monday.
If the Broncos win the superbowl, and Tebow is the MVP, and uses his post-game speech to announce that he’s gay, it will be the most successful trolling in American history.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
His conservative christian fanbase would go absolutely nuts
It would be beautiful
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would then be his biggest fan.
Hell, I’d prolly blow him.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
"Seems to be a good guy"
I honestly believe Tebow is a media creation…..He could be a total ass behind closed doors, but no one sees that side of him.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Man, if he ever does anything questionable and it makes it into the public consciousness
The people who are building him up now will just delight in destroying him. ESPN will fucking roast the man.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
It would have to be something extreme.
It takes a lot for the media to start portraying you in the completely opposite manner.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah it's gotta be something that can't be sugarcoated
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
It took a whole stable of loose women
and a long, long history of philandering to merely make Tiger Woods less than #1 guy ever at ESPN
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that's true at all.
Mass media delights in reversing course on people in a split second, that’s the name of the game—gaining ratings. You say that ESPN took a long time to turn on Tiger Woods but all I remember are article after article detailing every speculation as it arose.
As for how Tebow is behind doors, you could say that about absolutely anyone. There is no evidence that he isn’t genuine, even if his beliefs aren’t our own. His parents were missionaries, that suggests that it isn’t something he took on to gain followers.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN doesn't hate Tiger
They hang on every comeback attempt like it’s a major tour.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN shows what will get people to watch.
And, love him or hate him, people talk about Tim Tebow. For heaven’s sake, 23 MILLION people watched the Steelers/Broncos game. People want to talk about the stars, and casual fans are going to listen to/watch ESPN when they’re talking about a name they know.
They’re in it for the money.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
The game actually drew better in Pittsburgh than in Denver
People may have watched the game because of Tebow, but:
a) It was easily the most entertaining game of the weekend.
b) The Steelers have a HUGE fanbase.
c) It was the NFL playoffs.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough.
The point still stands though. There’s a reason the Yankees and Red Sox are always on Sunday Night Baseball (even though we wish it was different.)
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Yeah, they're good baseball teams with a great rivalry
Tim Tebow is a mediocre quarterback with a good defense and a media frenzy
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
And this.....
Is one of the greatest things ever created. Totally safe for work.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, I'm confused
So the lightning striking the cross while Tebow was nailed to it gave him superpowers?
So is that how Jesus supposedly came back to life? It was actually like a Frankenstein thing with lightning? Because I could enjoy that imagery in church.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
by Hawkeye00 on Jan 12, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Depends on which denomination you're in.
There are some folks think Zeus had a hand in it but most American WASPs believe it happened in the tomb a few days later.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Or ESPN will try to ignore the stuff
like they did with the Favre affair stuff.
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
by cesarhernandez on Jan 11, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
/Tressel'd.
He’ll get eaten alive once there’s even a smattering of misdeed around him. Which is fucking awful.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
x
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
/fair point'd
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing personal, but I know we (as in RR)
dissected it from 100 different angles this summer. At the end of the day, YMMV in regards to the Tressel affair.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Your Mother's Metallic Vajayjay?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Howja guess?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Hyperbole is NOT your friend
No one does a 90 second TD dance.
Now on the other point – At what part of the conversation you had with Ben Roethlisberger did you determine that he was a misogynist at best and a rapist at worst? Oh wait, you’ve never met him? You don’t understand the world he lives in, nor his personal beliefs?
No?
Then stop being the judgmental Christian everyone talks about.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Well, to be fair there is "evidence" out there that Ben has mistreated some women
Of course, it might not be true — he said/she said, but it is out there. As far as “judgmental Christians,” they are out there for sure but a lot people assume all Christians are a that way — judgmental, holier that thou, etc. I think that is part of what’s going on with Tebow right now. People are applying all the Christian stereotypes to him ie: he’s a phony, showy, trying to force his beliefs on others, etc. They are judging him when they’ve never met him, when they don’t understand the world he lives in or his personal beliefs.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Whoa.
There is a decent amount of evidence from the well-known events that transpired in the bar to suggest that Roethlisberger was at the very least rude to the young lady he was with. I’m not passing judgment, I’m making a statement based on the facts we know. Here’s Ben’s own comment:
“Though I have committed no crime, I regret that I have fallen short of the values instilled in me by my family.”
The police likely botched the investigation, but the NFL still saw fit to suspend him. So I don’t think I’m taking a high and mighty stance by pointing out that Tebow’s character seems to be higher than Roethlisberger’s based on the available evidence. But that’s not really my point, which is that Tebow is an interesting athlete to root for.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 11, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Big Ben regularly stole bicycles in Oxford after class
then tossed them in the bushes near his dorm.
i dont think he had too many values to begin with, he’s the prototypical pampered athlete who feels entitled to having whatever he wants whenever he wants.
and thats why Tebow is a breath of fresh air. he actually thanks his coaches, teammates and his maker in postgame interviews before saying anything about the game/himself.
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This is true.
I’ve seen it first hand.
Dirt Bikes!
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Who didn't do this in college?
The bike riders were dweebs.
Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into Swansons. ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on Jan 12, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I am going to a Timmy Tebow playoff party Saturday
A guy I work with is a huge Florida fan, and I hate Tom Brady so it will be fun.
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I went to UGA.
If Timmy were to cure cancer, he’d still barely get a golf clap from me.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Jan 11, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fun until about the nine-minute-mark of the second quarter.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh diggity!
Who’s the dime on the right?!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 12, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I love the guy on the left using the toy plastic mower to hide his boner.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:13 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you realize the guy had a sub 700 ops last year?
and his slg percentage was still under .400 after he left San Diego, so it isn’t like he was being killed by the ballpark.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
you should have put it in quotes.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
godamned right you do.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
ahem
it’s now modamned
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
You do not take my name in vain...or my picture...it is against the scriptures...I know I wrote them...
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
x
#reds and #rays are in on ryan theriot, a versatile infielder with a excellent bat. #astros also have some interest
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
It boggles the mind that the NL Central has watched Theriot play for years
And still wants to give him a job
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
he was a useful player at his peak
but he was never anything special, and has been bad for the last 2 years.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
at least the Rays have an excuse
Their SS hit worse than Janish.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
hey guys, hey
maybe he meant excellent bat for a crappy fielding utility player. Then it wouldn’t be quite as ridiculous a statement. If your comparison is Juan Castro, Theriot very well may have an excellent bat.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Luckhaupt says that Heyman is a twat.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Will you please give me a +K for slander
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klout.com
It’s where all of the Sofa King Famous people validate themselves.
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I'll take a Positive K any day!
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jan 11, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I ain't trying to hear that
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
by ChiDa on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just went and looked, that's some pretty dumb shit right there
I got a 47, whatever that means.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I think it means you suck at being better than everyone else.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
so you're saying his better is not better than anyone else's better?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
It means I'm better than you because I have a 51
I now get to take one thing in your house as my own.
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If it's my dignity, you're way late
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
My klout score is incalculable
I guess that means I’m the dopest whackmeister in funkdog city!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
So, like... does that mean you blew a bunch of dudes and had to have your stomach pumped on account of all the jism?
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You were wasted.
Trust me, you don’t want to remember.
If only I could forget…
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
you been hanging out with roethlisberger recently?
Brevity is the soul of wit.
Mine is 23
And I influence iPhone, iPad, verizon wireless and bourbon. I’m also an “explorer.”
I have no idea what any of this means.
darthmom: It's like sabremetrics, but for boobs.
Better than me...I am a 36.
I’m “influential” about: family, war, metallica, music, beer, surgery, money, photography, games, bourbon and money. This doesn’t seem even close to being right. Especially…all of them but beer and games (if sports are considered games)
Be prepared RR -
my 63rd Birthday is coming SOON.
and you all know what that entails.
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
an Amber alert?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions 16 recs
that reminds me
of that Celebrity Ghost Stories episode with Cindy from the Brady Bunch. She was being haunted at night…by her husband’s twin brother. Who died in utero.
The season premiere of Ghost Hunters is tonight. The episode is called “Roller Ghoster.” They are investigating Kings Island.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I don't think they are
But I hope they aren’t really going after Ludwick.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Fun fact - our entire bullpen is going to cost less than F-Rod
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I'm not positive that this is true, but I'll rec it anyway.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
it is - his buyout plus arbitration puts him over 15 mil (i think)
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ha.. Yeah. The Brewers are so screwed.
There’s still a chance Prince comes back. I think that chance get bigger with every passing day and no big payroll clubs looking interested.
They are likely to be big time trade deadline sellers, in which case we won’t have to worry about them for a couple years.
Just us and the Cards. The way it oughtta be.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Jan 11, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
The Reds absolutely HAVE to be the favorites in the division, right?
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
not absolutely
They are A favorite, but with the Cardinals adding Beltran & Wainwright, they are still very good even without Pujols
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Wainwright, in his first year back after TJ surgery, will not be a formidable asset.
I haven’t studied this, but I would wager that the ERA of TJ returnees is north of 5, with none of them throwing more than 130 innings.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure it's that dramatic, especially for elite pitchers
but yeah, he’s not going to be a 5 WAR pitcher, but he’s not going to be a drain on the team either.
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I think that "average" or "serviceable" are his ceilings...
….and it’s a long, long drop to the floor.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Here are some starting pitchers who had TJ, and their comeback season's stats:
2004 A.J. Burnett 120 IP, 112 ERA+
2008 Chris Carpenter 15 IP
2004 Ryan Dempster 20 IP
2009 Tim Hudson 42 IP
2008 Josh Johnson 87 IP
2008 Francisco Liriano 76 IP
2011 Eric Bedard 129 IP, 110 ERA+
2010 Chris Capuano 66 IP
2010 Jaime Garcia 163 IP, 143 ERA+
1976 Tommy John 207 IP, 110 ERA+
2010 Shawm Marcum 195 IP, 115 ERA+
2001 Jose Rijo 17 IP
2002 Kenny Rogers 210 IP, 124 ERA+ (steroids?)
2010 Edinson Volquez 62 IP, 95 ERA+
2010 Jake Westbrook 202 IP, 93 ERA+
2000 Kerry Wood 137 IP, 95 ERA+
These are likely the top 16 starting pitchers to come back from TJ. Out of those 16, only 4 topped 165 innings. Only 4 pitched a complete season, although that’s skewed by some pitchers returning mid-season. Only 2 had an ERA+ better than 115 in their return year.
Wainwright does not scare me. The numbers seem so stacked against him.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
ha, Jose Rijo's 2001 is in there!
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
An ERA+ of 108 would've made him the top starter on the Cardinals staff
and would be a dramatic improvement over Jake Westbrook (78 ERA+). That’s my point. He may not be his great former self next year, but he’s going to help their team.
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The Pirates still scare me.
They’ve made a lot of clever moves on a not-too-bad team.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
I'm more worried about ninjas, personally
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
did you stop watching baseball at the all-star break?
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
The are like the mid-2000's Reds
They are climbing their way towards respectability, and have some decent players, but will have several teasing starts and stops before they really come together.
It takes a long time to rebuild an organization that was as broken top to bottom as the Pirates were.
Plus there is also the chance their cheap owner doesn’t want to pay anyone, and forces their GM to unload the players they have.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, let's see how long it takes the Astros to rebuild
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
The Reds hit rock bottom in 2003
and they had a few teases in 2004, 2006, and they were even in contention until the All-Star break in 2009.
They started to rebuild from the bottom up in 2004, those players didn’t make the majors until 2008, and finally figured it out in 2010, only to take a step back in 2011.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, let's just move them to the American League and forget about 'em.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
no
The Cardinals are not chopped liver. Will Beltran fill the offensive hole that Pujols left? Probably not. But the Cardinals are still a legitimate team, with a strong starting rotation which includes a decent top three of Carpenter, Garcia, and Lohse, which compares well with Latos, Cueto, and Leake.
The Cardinals line up has question marks, but so do the Reds, how will Meso hit in his rookie season? Can Cozart be an adequate shortstop? Can the Reds piece together a full season of production from Rolen, Francisco, and Frazier? Left field?
The Reds bullpen is really good, which can hopefully prop up a somewhat top heavy rotation.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Lohse
AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
the guy who put up a 3.39 ERA over 188 innings last year?
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Ok
the guy who put up a FIP of 3.67 and xFip of 4.04.
Lohse is a steady stable pitcher, when he is healthy.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I'd take a 3.39 era from 188 ip from any reds SP
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I will admit he had a solid season last year
but that was easily the best ERA of his career by almost half a run. He had a BABIP against of .269, a k/9 of 5.3, and a pedestrian 41.4% GB rate. He had a good season, sure, but he’s still a league average starter at best, and certainly not the #3 on the Cards. I’d take Leake or Bailey over him
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Lohse or Bailey
that is a very difficult choice, ignoring contracts. I’d go Lohse, he’s actually done something.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Bailey. Higher upside.
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
To me, Bailey's upside looks like what Lohse did last year
but this is a silly thing to argue about
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
It isn't a lock that the Reds will win the division (it never is), but I think that these moves clearly make them the favorite.
If you were betting, could you honestly justify betting against the Reds?
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
I would wager (ha!) that St. Louis is the Vegas favorite for the division come March
No way I can be objective enough to bet on the Central.
Having no idea what the O/U will be, I'm going to guess
the under on Reds wins is going to be solid bet.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, I would have guessed higher.
I would take the under at 91 or 92. The Reds would seem to be a prime candidate for a silly O/U with lots of gamblers going over with all the offseason moves.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
It takes a very good and established team to get an o/u that high
With Madson in the fold, I’d say the o/u will be 85 wins.
I'd love to talk to a bookie about how precisely o/u are done.
I feel like every team has a long tail; they’re only ever 2-3 injuries away from a 70-win season. But no team is ever gonna have a o/u over 94.
I’d put these fellas at 86.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
New and improved Reds bullpen (by 2011 ERA+)
Madson – 164
Marshall – 173
Bray – 132
Arredondo – 122
Ondrusek – 121
LeCure – 106
Masset – 106
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
by -ManBearPig on Jan 11, 2012 5:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
thems be some tasty numbers
I suspect Masset’s number could sneak up, as could Arredondo’s
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
For those in the know, where does this deal leave our payroll?
And is there room for any other signings, or are we looking at only minor league contracts?
by Jack Armstrong started an All Star Game on Jan 11, 2012 5:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not sure anyone is "in the know" regarding the payroll for this year
But it seems to me that they probably have a few mil left. Probably enough for an extra outfielder or backup SS.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 11, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
and who knows
Maybe Banana Bob has agreed to bump up the budget a little. For the Votto window and all.
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maybe Banana Bob realizes winners sell tickets, and people turn on the TV to watch winners
which will give him a bigger budget to work with in the future.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
by Yossarian22 on Jan 11, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
my thoughts exactly
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach and hiring Jack Del Rio as Defensive Coordinator. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I'm assuming that there are still open spots on the 25-man roster?
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
kinda sorta
Getting a backup SS and LFer would probably mean players like Janish and Frazier start in Louisville. They have options, so could serve as depth in case of emergency.
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I think you're right on
For one thing, we never heard what, if any increase, there would be.
FWIW, I did update the payroll projection on the sidebar. I’ve got them down as $1.6M above where they were last year. So if Bob is bumping things up $5M, they’d have enough to make one of the acquisitions you mention.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 11, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Shame the Cubs picked up Paul Malholm
he could help stabilize the bottom of the rotation.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Who's left?
I doubt that Walt will bring in a pitcher before addressing LF and SS but I’m just curious who is out there that might be looking for a camp to go to in a few weeks…
Joe Saunders? Jon Garland?
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 11, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Roy Oswalt!
Kuroda!
Jackson!
Piniero!
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Jackson would be a nice pick up for the Reds needs.
Too bad there probably isn’t enough money in the banana stand. Arroyo’s extension just keeps on giving.
A rotation of Latos, Cueto, Leake, Jackson, and Chapman/Bailey would be really really nice.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
There is always money in the banana stand!
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I can't imagine the Reds spending on Jackson
They got lucky on one Boras client, but he was a reliever, not a starter. He’s probably way out of Walt’s price range
Fuck Murray Chass
I wonder why St. Louis isn't working harder to keep him
Their rotation projects to be:
Carpenter
Garcia
Lohse
Wainwright
Westbrook
Westbrook isn’t very good and Wainwright is a question mark until he proves he is all the way back from TJS, I would think they would want a steady presence in their rotation, and if they don’t need him, they could always flip him or Westbrook at the deadline for something they do need, or some future.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
PS I know nothing about the Cardinals young pitching prospects who may proove to be big league ready.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Unfortunately, he doesn't throw like a girl
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
He fucks like one.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That is a pissed off cat
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Scott Roland should retire tomorrow.
by Madville on Jan 12, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think we're underestimating Wainwright.
I realize he’s coming off of major surgery, but I still wouldn’t expect him to be anything less than an all-star caliber player. Anything worse is an unexpected bonus for the Reds.
I think expecting anything positive or negative for Wainwright is hard to do
some guys come back and it is like they haven’t missed a beat. Others come back but it takes a while to work the rust away, and some guys make a few trips to the DL with arm soreness their first year back.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Carpenter had a real slow comeback
I think he ended up in the bullpen in 2008.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Who has come back without missing a beat?
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
A.J. Burnett appeared to do so in 2004
It is really hard to tell, as very few pitchers are ready on opening day the year after they had the surgery, because of the timing of it all.
I was going to say Tim Hudson, but he only pitched in 7 games his first year back.
But your point stands.
Most the pitchers who did comeback quickly with fast success and no setbacks are relief pitchers, who don’t have to stretch out to be able to throw 100+ pitches, and who usually throw 2 pitches rather than 3-5.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
and Shaun Marcum missed all of 2009 with TJS
and put up a very good and healthy full season in 2010.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I'm listening to the R.L. Burnside channel on Pandora...
And the Black Keys just popped up. The Maloney family would be proud.
Another way to think about things
Sam LeCure is probably the Reds worst relief pitcher going into 2012, and he is on par with if not better than Dave Weathers, who was the Reds best relief pitcher in 2007.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I think Lecure is going to be a very good reliever / possible future closer
posted a 1.004 WHIP last year.
I still feel uneasy about Masset, not sure if he’ll make it through the whole season.
Maybe
lets see how he does this year, when the league will see him again.
I trust Masset a little more, just because Masset has great pure stuff.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
I'm sure he'll get a shot this year, but
over each of the past three years his losses have increased, ERA got worse, WHIP worsened substantially, H / 9 & BB / 9 both have increased as well, and SO / BB ratio has gone from almost 3 to 2.
These trends are disconcerting. I say pull the plug early if he struggles.
Well with Marshall and Madson
Masset and Ondrusek will probably be co-7th inning guys.
I think the bigger issue is Masset has been over used, dude has pitched in a lot of games, and before 2009 was never really expected to pitch 80 games a year before.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Madson and coco had same WAR last yr right?
Latos adds 3-4. Marshall 2? I’d sat cozart adds 3 over Edgard/soft j.
Rolen Stubbs and bruce can add 5 more.
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what did she say?
Did you ask her if Joey would be willing to pose for a calendar?
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by BubbaFan on Jan 11, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Something about being besties forever and ever. No biggie.
She said she had a cold or fever. Was going to feed the fever. I told her to smoke out a fever, drown a cold. She suggested my body should be a temple. Whatevs.
why is she consulting you for medical advice?
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If her body is a temple,
I’m converting to Judaism.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like this girl is fucked in the head
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Jan 11, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Being a single woman?
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
someone tell Joey
he’s doin’ in it wrong!
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never heard of foreplay?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
If Votto leaves because you fucked his GF, so help me God.....
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
by btcoop71 on Jan 12, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm more concerned of him leaving b/c Justin fucked him to try and keep him to stay
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone see that Dave Cameron mentioned Juan Francisco as trade bait?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
He's probably the best trade chip left that we can afford to trade
But boy, you’d be putting a lot of hope that Rolen and Cairo stay healthy, and that the Toddfather could hit enough to stay there
Fuck Murray Chass
It is nice having both though
hedge your bets.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
Not that I would think twice about trading either one of them for a meaninful player.
"You know when I'm done ranting about elite power that rules the planet under a totalitarian government that uses the media in order to keep people stupid, my throat gets parched. That's why I drink Orange Drink".-Bill Hicks
yep
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:14 AM EST up reply actions
i got the END game used jersey
it sits proudly next to Hopper, Rosales, Owings…I don’t look for Juan to make it to the AS break with the organization.
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
I should sell you my Chad Reineike uni.
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
It's a prized possession.
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
does he follow the Reds?
’Cause it really looks to me like the Reds want to keep END. Frazier will be trade bait before END is.
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Yeah, I think this sounds right
The Reds do love them some ROAR
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
But maybe, just maybe, that the Reds posturing...
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Cameron, despite some solid analysis, can be totally full of sh*t at times.
That probably has something to do with it.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Ei. Joey Votto to the Mariners rhetoric.
http://www.ussmariner.com/2011/09/19/forget-prince-fielder-target-joey-votto-instead/
@DavefrmLville.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 11, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, pretty much everyone called him out, but he wouldn't shut up
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
This is quite true
smart guy and all, but definitely hit or miss
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I bet he wears ADIDAS.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 11, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
No.
“All day I dream about sex”…that’s been the funny phrase for their company since we whispered it on the playground in the 1980’s. And he appears to have a thought bubble where all he is thinking about is cock while he is smiling.
I have no idea what that has to do with Korn, but I’m sure this joke is funnier now that I’ve explained it.
Not everybody is a Kenyan, fool. - jch
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 12, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
oh my god. there is so much thread here.
I’m not reading all of this. What it is, dudes and dudettes?
Oh just chilling.
by the by, I like your new hair cut, but beware…I did that in the brutally hot summer of 2001 and I’ll be damned if it didn’t want to grow back.
by DocRam on Jan 11, 2012 8:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Gray's hat!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 11, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Danny Ray Herrera
cleared waivers and is now a Buffalo Bison.
And the Brewers signed Paul Phillips, Andyfan’s first cousin.
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Already, RRers, I'm setting up a Twitter
What’s the best twitter app for the iPhone?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
I would have to go with...
..Twitter.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jan 11, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Weird. I just sent my first tweet today
I’ve had an account for a while but never used it. I have started “following” some of these losers, here.
So far, I find it kind of weird and difficult to follow, but I’m sure I’ll get used to it.
And fentanyl ain't that like super-morphine for elephants and soldiers with their head blown off
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jan 11, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really doing it to stay updated for the RR burger tour.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, I should have just stopped reading when Cy said Twitter
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, Ubersocial is the best Twitter app for iPhone
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
yeah
spelled this way
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
OK guys, I'm excited about Mads, too
but there’s a Moroccan girl and a Persian girl upstairs who want a little of my time, so I’m gonna leave RR for now.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Damn
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I knew a Moroccan girl once . . .
I dig
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I was definitely not expecting the word "stories"
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
/EiffelTower'd
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
High 5!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Neopolitan'd
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
m-m-m-m-m-m-myyyy sharia
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
by UncleWeez on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not quite the calendar I had in mind
But there is a Reds calendar at Amazon.
It’s a little out of date (even though it’s a 2012 calendar). Jonny Gomes is one of the featured players. And so is Volquez – big pic on the back.
And you can get a Joey Votto poster for just one cent. Jay Bruce will cost you $2.45. And Aroldis Chapman is $4.33.
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A Cespedes What If. . .
What if Cespedes really wanted to play with Aroldis. What if the Cincinnati Reds outbid their own largest Cuban player contract of Chapman’s 30.25/6. AOL says he’s looking for something 32M/4 years – 64/8.
What is fair for Cespedes services?
I say offer 21/3 with a few million differed to 2014
Mostly because it’s not my money. Then because, I personally am not super comfortable with more than 2 years. But I would throw in 2014 to make the deal. We very might well be in a rebuilding mode by the end of 2013. It’s not out of the realm of possibility when you think of capitalizing on Votto and BP’s contracts. Mmm more trades upcoming, yummy.
crashtestnipplechip citymoron
Wow, this thread was a fun break from the sun and sand of Afghanistan
Why not sign CoCo cheap and pair him with Marshall and Madson? We had pretty good success with the Nasty Boys. CoCo could be Chalton.
Or lets just set MLB on fire and force Selig to do a David Stern by signing Prince Fielder to play LF. We all know that Brewer hates the Reds and would try to veto the trade. It would be fun to see him squirm.
Coco is not going to get as much money as his agent told him he would back in December..
..but I expect that he’ll get more than the Reds could pay him at this point.
And I think he’s probably holding out for better role than he’d find with the Reds: Set-Up Man B.
But how long ya been voer there, Wood?
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 12, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Almost home
83 days left, but who’s counting?
by WOOD98 on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You'll be home for Opening Day!
Maybe.. It’s gotta be close. Anyway, you’ll be home for the Reds’ sixth win in their 6-0 start!
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 13, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Stay safe, brother.
And thanks for your service.
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 13, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Hey Wood, just wanna say that you're the fuckin man for being over there for us
that is all. PRINCE FOR LEFT FIELD!
Fuck lion say what! i got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me
Amen to that.
Though you might be wondering if we are worth fighting for when you read these boards :).
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 12, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
These posts make me laugh so its definitely worth it.
by WOOD98 on Jan 13, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If you're a local you should come out for a burger sometime
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Born in Washington Court House but lived in KY almost 20 years
Currently stationed in Alaska but my PCS got approved for Fort Knox so I’m headed back there a couple of months after we redeploy. Can’t wait to get back to my home in Louisville.
Heartily second UncleWeez. Thanks for your service
I’d like to think CoCo could still come back somehow, especially since he’s a good presence/mentor on the team and has done good in the community. But I’d have to think he could either get the same or more money closing elsewhere or more money as a luxury set-up man on a rich team.
Mgr., Red Reporter
"Bootsy, you're a superstar right?"
"Twinkle, twinkle, babble."
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 12, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
On the Tebow front
Here’s a really good question to ask.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
I think we already know the answer to that question.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
Crum-Bum Beat
It IS a good question to ask.
If Tim Tebow were Muslim, I would still want to watch the Broncos game to see what craziness was going to happen. I’m not a fan of Tebow because he’s a Christian. Like CA said in an earlier post, I think he’s an interesting player because of all the 4th quarter heroics. I also think he’s the underdog and I like to root for the underdog if I have no other stake in the game.
But I do think, per the article you linked, that many of the so-called “Christian leaders” along the lines of Pat Robertson, would probably have a lot of stupid crap to say (and get a lot of media attention for saying it), against a Muslim athlete who professed his faith like Tebow does. I can’t explain that at all because it doesn’t jive with what I believe Christianity is all about.
I also think it’s ridiculous that some Christians have such thin skin and want play the “anti-Christian bigotry” card because of a SNL skit or what have you. Sure, bigotry exists on some level but Christians are not persecuted in this country and anyone who thinks they are needs to educate themselves about the types of religious persecution that takes place in China, India and the Middle East.
In addition, I don’t think the hoopla that exists around the Christian Tim Tebow would be there for the Muslim Tim Tebow since you wouldn’t have all the otherwise-uninterested-in-football Christians on his bandwagon. I would hope that our country has grown enough so that what happened to Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf in the 1990’s and to Muhammad Ali in the 60’s wouldn’t happen today but I don’t know. There are many people who call themselves Christians, only to use it to justify their own prejudices and bigotry. But I also know that there are many more who legitimately try to live out their Christian principles every day. I think Tim Tebow is one of the good guys even if he does rub some people the wrong way.
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
by darthmom on Jan 12, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I like you and the graph.
And Pat Robertson doesn’t jive with what I believe Christianity is all about.
It’s a shame that there isn’t actually a hell for that man to go to. He’s one of those people whom I’d be scared of hurting badly if I met him in person. Such hate wrapped in hypocritical piousness. He makes me want to do Un-Christian things to him, like turn his head with a strong right cross. Then I’d turn his other cheek.
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 13, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I just realized that that's a pie chart and not a graph....
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
Methinks a pie chart is a type of graph, so you're OK.
Kinda like saying O-Cab is a crappy infielder, whether or not he is a shortstop. :)
If she’s already pregnant, you’re gold. - Hawkeye00
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 13, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Mmmm.. pie.
How about you agree to waive the fine and I promise not to email you the remaining eighty six photos of my dog dressed as a bear.
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, Ok, good
I hate to be wrong about stuff. :)
I don't know why my kids call me that. I think I'm a pretty nice mom.
I think much of this equally applies to a situation where a Tebow-type player is Jewish or any other "other" faith.
I wonder how people would react if a crucial player didn’t play in a crucial game because of Yom Kippur. Say, Ryan Braun in the seventh game of the World Series. I think people would freak the fuck out, frankly, not look at it as a sign of deep faith. But obviously the recent history and reception of Muslims in America makes that an especially interesting question, and I have no doubt that there wouldn’t be open arms. But I do think smart fans like those on this board have differentiated between Tebow is Interesting Because He is an Unusual and Oddly Effective Athlete and Tebow is Interesting Because He is Christian.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 12, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Sandy Koufax refused to pitch Game 1 of the 1965 World Series
because it fell on Yom Kippur.
It raised an argument among fans, for sure, but I don’t think it freaked people out. Some saw it as a sign of deep faith, others saw it as letting down his team.
I’m sure there was some anti-Semitism in feelings of the day, but it sounds like that wasn’t the main focus, which is pretty good for 1965.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
That's what I was alluding to.
I have no clue what would happen today, but wouldn’t be surprised if people were less indulgent in an era where information whips around more quickly. But that could be wrong.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jan 12, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Shawn Green sat out a postseason game (more than once?) IIRC
people didn’t seem to care, that I remember.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I would hope that our country has grown enough so that what happened to Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf in the 1990’s and to Muhammad Ali in the 60’s wouldn’t happen today but I don’t know.
I think it would be worse now.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
yep
Muslims used to be looked at the same as any other immigrant with a different religion, not so anymore.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
EDSBS covered this back in the day.
Complete with LSUFreek making a picture of “the most offensive combination of Tebow and Muslim stereotypes I could find” or something of that ilk.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
LSUFreek is a god amongst mortals
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
makes some great shit
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jan 14, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
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