The season may be lost, but beating Chris Carpenter and the Cardinals is always satisfying. Reds win, 11-8.
Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Juan Francisco. A lot of the young players displayed some power tonight, but Francisco's three run homer in the ninth ended up being the margin of victory. He also had a double and two more RBI, as well as another run scored. Honorable mentions go to Yonder Alonso (a home run, a double, two runs, two RBI, and no errors in LF) and Todd Frazier (a pinch hit home run).
Key Plays
- You might have reasonably expected a pitching duel between Johnny Cueto and Chris Carpenter. However, the bad blood that exists between these two clubs, especially when these two pitchers are involved, gave way to a slugfest. The Reds landed the first blows in the second inning. Yonder Alonso led off with a double. Drew Stubbs bunted him to third, but was able to reach first base himself. Then Juan Francisco wisely hit a ball to right field where Lance Berkman was roaming. It fell for a double and Alonso and Stubbs both scored. Ramon Hernandez and Johnny Cueto both grounded out, but Brandon Phillips hit the third double of the inning. Francisco scored. Edgar Renteria smashed a single to first base, but Albert Pujols couldn't make the play and Phillips scored all the way from second. Joey Votto then singled and Renteria went to third, where he then scored on Jay Bruce's single. Reds lead, 5-0.
- A lot went right for the Reds in the top of the inning, but the Cardinals struck back in the bottom half. Johnny Cueto walked Matt Holliday to start off, and then scored on singles by Lance Berkman and David Freese. With runners on the corners, Lance Berkman was able to score on Yadier Molina's groundout. Reds lead, 5-2.
- In the third inning, Jon Jay singled, and Albert Pujols also reached when Edgar Renteria couldn't come up with his grounder. Matt Holliday struck out, but Lance Berkman singled and Jay scored. Renteria atoned partially by turning an inning-ending double play off the bat of David Freese. Reds lead, 5-3.
- Johnny Cueto wasn't his usual sharp self. Perhaps the Cardinals were just very keyed up to face him. Either way, newcomer to the conflict Rafael Furcal homered to lead off the fifth. Then once again Jon Jay and Albert Pujols hit back to back singles. Matt Holliday grounded into a double play, but Jay was able to take advantage and score. Game tied, 5-5.
- Todd Frazier pinch hit for Johnny Cueto in the sixth and sent a pitch over the right field fence. Reds lead, 6-5.
- Despite what nycredsfan will try to tell you, when Jose Arredondo comes in, he allows runs. Specifically, he allowed a home run to David Freese. Game tied, 6-6.
- My last name is ten letters long and only has two vowels, but Marc Rzepczynski does me one better. But at least I didn't give up a home run to Yonder Alonso tonight. Jay Bruce singled with one out in the seventh, and then Yonder hit his blast. Reds lead, 8-6.
- Aroldis Chapman pitched the eighth inning, and he showed a bit of wildness. After getting David Freese out, he walked Yadier Molina and Ryan Theriot. Allen Craig grounded out, but that sent Molina to third, where he was able to score on Rafael Furcal's single. Reds lead, 8-7.
- Holy shit! When did Arthur Rhodes join the Cardinals?! That stings. Well, he still was doing his level best to help the Reds to win, giving up a single to Joey Votto in the ninth. Jay Bruce grounded into a forceout, and Kyle McClellan replaced Rhodes. McClelland then plunked pinch hitter Miguel Cairo. After Drew Stubbs uncharacteristically struck out, Juan Francisco hit a monster home run to straightaway center. Reds lead, 11-7.
- Perhaps Dusty had a bit of a brain fart, because he put Francisco Cordero into the game with a four run lead. Coco politely allowed a home run to Matt Holliday to erase that faux pas and make it a three run game. Reds win, 11-8.
Other Notes
- Joey Votto improved his major league leading road batting average to .358.
- Cueto's ERA jumped to 2.29, which puts him behind Jered Weaver by one hundredth of a point for the major league lead. He still has the NL lead ahead of Clayton Kershaw.
- Never forget, the Cardinals and all those associated with them are contemptible individuals. Except Arthur Rhodes.
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Yonder looked okay, but was not tested
His replacement was very timely, the first batter hit what would have been a double for sure.
Yep. Methinks he's better suited for a year at 3b
Despite Fiasco’s great night, I see him another Edwin Encarnacion, occasionally getting hot but for the most part a streaky free swinger and an erratic fielder.
Kevin Youkilis: If I were to go anywhere, I would want to go to Cincinnati .
Ummmm Mr. Fiasco has had a rfair amount of playing time both at the AAA and MLB level
I haven’t seen much in the way of positive progress either in his non-selective ABs or his erratic defense. Whereas with guys like Cozart and Yonder the progress has been steady and obvious.
Frazier had a rough spot this year but recovered and has made a claim on the 25 man roster for 2012. Maybe in the waning weeks of 2011 Fiasco will show some plate discipline and prove me wrong. I hope so, but I ain’t holding my breath.
Kevin Youkilis: If I were to go anywhere, I would want to go to Cincinnati .
Wow, Mr. 'ville That is some reasoned, thoughtful analysis
Personally, I prefer the knee-jerk, lovably prejudgiced Madville.
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In in 742 AAA plate apperances Juan Francisco only has 30 walks
while he could be the exception, chances are he won’t be able to hit a major league level given his plate discipline.
It will get better.
With Yonders good night in LF and great night at the plate
Dusty won’t play him again for another fortnight. I would say the Lewis send down was a message to Dusty to play the kids, but Dusty has proven before he doesn’t speak the same language as uncle Walt
6-2, 185
by brown11b on Sep 3, 2011 8:40 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Whining about Dusty
always takes precedence over giving our players who have great games props on internet boards.
This particular whining is about things he hasn’t even done yet and is unlikely to do. The “kids” have been playing a lot lately.
dusty doesn't have much of a choice
it’s either play the kids or go out there himself and provide a “real” vetern presence
We missed you guys at the top o' the 4th
We’ll have to meet up another time!
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
MLB's pick was Yonder
He was the one who put the Reds ahead for good. (But boy, did END’s insurance runs come in handy.)
Someone must have slipped Carp a Prozac or something. He was remarkably un-whiny, not criticizing his team or anyone but himself.
They are still hoping to catch the Brewers. They’re 8.5 games back after losing last night while the Brewers won.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
If this was the nail in STL's season
that is pretty satisfying.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I think if we win this series it will be
They basically would have to win out at that point. Not that their chances are that great anyway.
by ams78 on Sep 3, 2011 8:48 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
From the Fangraph
You’d have to say he was the WPA-POTG
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Billy Hamilton stole two more bases
That’s 97. Torreyes stole home. Selsky and O’Shea hit third and fifth for Billings. They combined to go 0 – 10 with 10 K’s. Ouch! Sulbaran K’d 11 with no walks.
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 7:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sulbaran quietly has had a fairly nice season.
His K number are very strong, walks are down considerably and he hasn’t gotten hit much more than in the past despite pitching in the hitter-friendly California League. Sulbaran’s still just 21. He might turn into something, yet.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Sep 3, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Sulbaran has been impressive
Nice season, too, from Josh Smith. Leads MWL in W’s and K’s. Not much projection, though.
Anybody know anything about Jacob Johnson? He looked promising last year, but I don’t remember seeing anything about him this year.
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Johnson's been hurt all year.
I don’t recall the injury, but he hasn’t thrown a pitch in a game all season.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Sep 3, 2011 11:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hooray for the Youth Movement™
Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.
Yonder's wOBA is now .514
Thumbs-up Duck says, “That’s quacktastic!”
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Why is he wearing pants?
Ducks don’t wear pants
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I think it's a denim jumper
All the hip young ducks are wearing them nowadays.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I miss Donald Duck
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I miss Gizmo Duck
Got to give him some love.
"This is the St. Louis Cardinals we're talking about. They suck. Screw them. With a shovel. The sharp metal end. And then set them on fire." - crolfer
by rorschach1979 on Sep 3, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
because hipster ducks turn up their bills at trends
and then do whatever the duck they want.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
straight Donald Duck'n it, brah
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 4, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
wOBA? wOBA?!? What's his OPS?
The kids all had really good nights. And with Heisey/Sappelt on the bench as LIDRs, this Yonder in LF thing just might work out.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2011 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is silly
Ducks have no thumbs.
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Best news of the weekend was Bryan Price saying he thinks Chapman is suited to be a starter
And not only that, but he thinks they’ll give him a chance soon.
Sorry if this was discussed yesterday.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2011 10:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Fay's blog
http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2011/09/02/price-sees-chapman-as-a-starter/
There was a little discussion of this in the game thread. I’d love to see it happen, but I’m kinda doubtful.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
thankie
my position on this is pretty clear. I find it somewhat amusing that it’ll depend on Horst and Bray as to whether Chapman will become a starter again.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
and possibly finding another lefty during the offseason
with a pulse perferably but if we have search among the ranks of the undead i would not be totally against that.
It usually isn't hard to find some 38 year old LOOGY for $3million
I feel like they have a union or something. Mike Timlin? Dennys Reyes? Jeremy Affeldt? Surely one of them can be had.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Affeldt would be a fine addition
He can also get right handed hitters out, he could slot into the 7th or 8th inning role, which Chapman inherited from Rhodes, who inherited it from well Affeldt.
It will get better.
Maloney has more sucess against right handers
his best off speed pitch is his change up.
It will get better.
as a starter
I have no doubt that Moloney could change his approach and be a serviceable LOOGY
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2012 rotation
Cueto, Leake, Arroyo, Chapman, Bailey and pick one of Willis/Wood/Volquez. Going to need 6 as only Arroyo has ever really made more than 30 starts or thrown 200 innings, plus Bailey/ Cueto could be DL risk. Bailey or Volquez to closer role allows one more name from the back of the list into the rotation.
Is my math right?
Did we clinch a winning record vs the Cardinals on the year with that win last night?
teh fay or somebody with the reds mentioned that on twitter last night
Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.
EYEWITNESS REPORT: CRAWLF-DAWG EDITION
went with a bunch of law dorks as part of 1920’s night. Backed out of that quickly as “1920’s night” became “find new and creative ways to make fun of the only black man [Brandon Phillips] on the field.”
The ball was flying out of the yard, as you may have noticed. I met up with crolfer + LB, who are both great people. Missed out on meeting ewq, who’s like, on his honeymoon anyways so why does he want to roll with us losers?
The Frazier home run was really weird. Everyone just stood there waiting, not even a smattering of boos. If I wasn’t watching the play, I’d assume it was just rolled foul. I’m not sure who hit the ball harder: END or Holliday. Both left the park in a hot second.
No real amusing stories to report. The 3 of us wandered down to the left field seats to find something open. After people started cheering for the BP HBP, I think I yelled something disapproving of said boos. Some dude got snarky, but crolf’s winning smile defused the situation. Later we chatted with a bunch of the Cards fans; why Reds players can’t wear their hats, what Arthur Rhodes is doing on the Cardinals, and why like 5 dudes got hit by pitches.
We cackled with glee when Corey Patterson was announced.Maybe he wore 44 to stir up the echoes of Adam Dunn, but he unfortunately got 2011 vintage. 2-pitch at batterson managed to strike out on 3 pitches. As puzzled as we were when Shane Robinson came in to ph for Jon Jay (any of you guys know what was up with that? Was Jay injured?) the otherwise mild-mannered aged couple behind us was moreso. The kindly old lady muttered “who the hell is this guy?”
Creepiness ensued on the Cairo HBP. I understand booing BP, it’s part of the whole theater of the rivalry, etc. But Cairo? EVERYONE likes Cairo! And yet there was a lot of cheers. Some dude in front of us pantomimed taking out a sniper rifle and shooting Miggie. That was weird.
Overall, a fun night out on the scene. Good people, pleasant weather, lots of dingers, and a Reds victory. Not a bad Friday.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Sep 3, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Cairo was a Cardinal for a few years too, right?
Doubly strange. They seem to latch on to folks who ever wore a Cardinals jersey. Though I would have liked to have seen Scott Rolen hobble off the bench and sock a dinger.
by Brendanukkah on Sep 3, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
He’s had a couple of stints with the Cards. Seems like he’s played almost everywhere.
His last stop before the Reds was Philly, and I noticed he got warm greetings from his former teammates.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
nice report
it did turn out to be a pretty good game for us even though Cueto was uncharacteristically bad
I was wondering
if the balls were flying out of there. Frazier’s didn’t really look like it was going out, and really, END’s didn’t, either. He didn’t get all of it. Maybe he’s just really strong (okay, he is really strong) but that looked like a fly out off the bat.
I wonder if Miggy’s okay today. He was hit really hard, on the wrist, it looked like. He stayed in, but that’s the kind of injury that might not show up until the next day.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Frazier's shot was impressive
0-2 outside fastball that got a little too much of the plate. He didn’t try to do too much with it, but it was a hot night where the ball carried, and he’s a big guy. It hit the foulpole.
by ken on Sep 3, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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the classiest fans in all of baseball have their Klan rallies during the game. easiest way to get them all in one place together
And much better than a Becky from "Roseanne" joke
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
eres un perdedor!

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
with ken as my witness
there is nothing more uncomfortable than law students trying to be ironic.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
then you've never seen my boss' son try public speaking
i had to shit myself just to break the tension (yeah, that’s my excuse. . .)
There was a point when one guy quipped "check out the gams on that broad". 1920's night and all.
then she turned around, “Just because you’re talking like my grandpa doesn’t mean I can’t hear you.”
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
he should have offered her some bathtub whiskey
it’s the sensible 20’s thing to do
by theembalmer on Sep 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was sitting very close to the 20's guys, they were assholes.
Next time we will have to cooridnate better, I thought I saw you guys but I was shy
by Eastwindquinn on Sep 3, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm back in Columbia.
Unfortunately this one was a one time deal for LB and I. I’ll have to get us a few tickets and plan a whole weekend next time.
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
Really? Dang.
I wish Id jnowb so I could feed you embarassing stories from their pasts for you to recount loudly.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Sep 3, 2011 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Indeed!
Cy’s the first RR’r I’ve met in person, and I was happy to find that he was not a murderer or anything like that. In fact, he was a very cool dude. Seeing Carpenter get absolutely blasted around for that inning was pure awesome. LB and I hit the zoo today and then drove back to Columbia this afternoon. Saw quite a few Reds fans around the zoo and greeted them all because that’s what Reds fans do. We so cool.
There were some rather obnoxious children seated near us who tried to get the wave going in the 7th inning or so. And by “tried to get the wave going” I mean they screamed incomprehensible commands and something that sounded like a countdown.
It was damned warm. Very humid. I think it got to LB a bit- pretty sure she was nice and dehydrated, but she still said she enjoyed her first major league game, even if she didn’t totally and completely understand what was going on at all times. I think she was just happy that I didn’t follow through with my pregame threats of punching any smartass Cardinal fans who make stupid comments regarding… anything. I would have followed through, but there were just too many targets. Got overwhelmed. I was slightly confused at one point- after they hit Phillips and we jokingly called someone out after he yelled “Next time disable him!” (We just told him that wasn’t very nice and we all had a laugh about it), some other guy asked us if those were our seats and we just kind of turned around, said “No.” and then turned back around. I’m not entirely sure what he was trying to get at.
As Cy said, the ball was just flying. I didn’t even realize Frazier’s HR was a homer until he was around third. END’s shot was a no doubter, just absolutely crushed, and it was amusing to see the stands empty as soon as it left the yard.
Great night!
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
Frazier lives!
Brandon Phillips 4
Edgar Renteria 6
Joey Votto 3
Jay Bruce 9
Chris Heisey 7
Drew Stubbs 8
Todd Frazier 5
Ryan Hanigan 2
Homer Bailey 1
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I wouldn't mind seeing Heisey get some more chances in center
I am not saying Stubbs should be thrown away, but Heisey has hit better than Stubbs in 2011, and Stubbs shouldn’t be granted the job based on being a first round pick.
I hope I don’t sound like HLM.
It will get better.
You sound exactly like Hi-L-Man!!!
Stubbs is out there prolly as much for his speed and defensive prowess. P:lus Dusty only looks at BA, so .250 is pretty good when you compare Stumps to Co-Pat…(Corey PaTTERSON FER YOU NEW GUYS).
Kevin Youkilis: If I were to go anywhere, I would want to go to Cincinnati .
And Heisey may fall off when he is exposed to play everyday
i don’t know which one is better, but Heisey has done well enough, that he deserves more starts.
It will get better.
you make it sound like sounding like me is a bad thing....
fact: it is not
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubbs isn't being granted the job because he's a first round pick
He’s being granted the job because he’s really good at it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
.250/.322/.378 isn't what I would define as "really good"
Heisey’s OBP is a bit lower at .307 but his slugging much better at .464.
Again I am not saying Stubbs should just lose his job, but I would probably try to split them a little more evenly, just to see if Heisey takes off.
It will get better.
He's a league-average hitter who plays above-average defense at a premium position
This is a no-brainer.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
And B-Ref says he's awesome
I don’t take either number as gospel. From what I’ve seen of him, I think he’s pretty good.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is really fast, but his instincts are mediocre, and his arm is decent
and i am not saying Stubbs sucks, but Heisey has performed about as well as Stubbs, and based on performance Stubbs hasn’t been so much better than Heisey that Stubbs deserves the job no questions asked.
It will get better.
also, the 30 SB thing.
If he can turn a single and a SB into being on 2nd base, that’s as good as a double in my book…though his SLG% won’t reflect it.
Those extra 30+ bases get lost in the numbers.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
But he has been caught stealing 8 times
so that should also be figured into his OBP, if you are going to figure stolen bases into his slg%.
It will get better.
totally agree. Point still stands though...just use net SB.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubbs' defensive stats aren't that good this year
But I think he is a good CFer. Nice speed, good arm, pretty good instincts.
I think there would be a significant dropoff with Heisey in CF.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Stubbs arm consistently impresses me
though I remember being shocked at the 7th inning LIDR of Heisey for Alonso last night…until Heisey ran down a ball in the gap with runners on.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Heisey is a CFer
Which means his range should be excellent in the corners.
I don’t think he has Stubbs’ range in center, though.
And yeah, that LIDR last night really paid off.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
he looks very timid in center field
i don’t think he’s improved much, if at all, since he first came into the majors
While this may be true, it is irrelevant to the discussion of Stubbs vs. Heisey
Stubbs, even in his ‘non-improved’ state, is still way, way better than Heisey in CF.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
how do we know that?
Stubbs in 2 seasons worth of playing time has shown to be an average centerfielder. The stats on Heisey in CF as a SSS.
It will get better.
Scouting
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Sep 3, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shown by what?
By the eyes and most metrics he’s solidly above average. Total Zone and Defensive Runs Saved (Fielding Bible’s metric) rate Stubbs well above average; UZR rates him below average for the first time this year.
Heisey is fine as a backup CF but he’s not an average fielder there. He has certainly made fewer plays in his short time in center compared to Stubbs – 2.20 RF/9 compared to 2.70 for Stubbs. I don’t think there’s any way he hits enough to overcome that gap.
by ken on Sep 3, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubbs is more valuable offensively than the #'s indicate
I wish I knew where to go to find how many times he reaches via infield error as opposed to league average. His speed causes infielders to rush and commit more errors. That kinda thing doesn’t show up in slash lines, but it counts.
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really like Heisey, I really do.
But 500 PAs with a .307 OBP is somewhat unplayable.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
just imagine how much you'd like Heisey
if Stubbs wasn’t around. Compare Heisey to the dumptruck full of dung that was Taveras, Patterson, Old Griffey, Edmonds, et al, would make you love him.
We’re pretty spoiled with CF depth right now, Sappelt included.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 3, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year he had an OBP of .324, with a BABIP of .312
this year it is .307 with a BABIP of .280.
Nothing else has changed, his line drive rate in 2010: 19.4, this year 19.2
K rate in 2010, 25.2%, this year 24.9%
BB% in 2010, 7.1% in 2011 6.1%
ISO power in 2010 .179 this year .210.
And it isn’t like Stubbs OBP of .322 is a world beater.
It will get better.
Both strike out too much and don't get on base enough
Heisey has (much?) more power, Stubbs has better speed and defense. Stubbs is a better overall player, but I agree with you that Heisey is probably deserving of some more starts in CF. Perhaps both would benefit from sharing the load a little bit.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Stubbs is a better defender than Heisey
I think Heisey is a better hitter, however, looking at them side by side, we’ll figure out who has the better WAR based on PA.
Although, I don’t really agree with Heisey in CF over Stubbs, just based on the D alone, and I don’t think Heisey is a viable long term solution in LF.
So yeah.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 4, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing! BF it only took an exception offensive night by J. Fiasco to get Todd back in the line-up
Good job Dustwadfuckpants!
Kevin Youkilis: If I were to go anywhere, I would want to go to Cincinnati .
you know...
This might actually be a vote of no confidence from Dusty.
Remember, he started Yonder at third base when Homer Bailey was pitching. Because Bailey doesn’t generate a lot of ground balls to the left side.
I think this means he sees Frazier a worse defensive third baseman than END.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Or maybe it's just because Garcia is left-handed
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
there's Miggy
Though perhaps he’s sidelined by the HBP.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Right
and he shouldn’t be starting at all anyway.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 3, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
he shouldn't be
But at least until END was called up, he was the apparent starter.
Dusty really does put a lot of thought into his lineups. Maybe wrong-headed thought, but a lot of it. I am convinced that he plans out several days ahead, trying to take into account the matchups. Not just batter vs. pitcher, but how his defense meshes with the starting pitcher, rest days, etc.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
But regardless of this, your initial argument isn't relevant
He’s not starting Frazier today because of Bailey, but because of Garcia.
It has nothing to do with what he thinks of them defensively at 3B.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I bet money that Dusty thinks END is as good or better defensively
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
This is an odd team
They’re facing a lefty and have only two LH hitters in the lineup. Those two are in the 3 and 4 holes. And really, you can’t argue with it.
by poojols on Sep 3, 2011 12:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have a question for Mads
are most major league players’ hands calloused or are they soft and manicured like a Regency gentleman’s?
Regency Gentlemen?
Man, I need to brush up on my Jane Austin
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Or Jane Austen
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
or Jeff Austin.

It will get better.
by Yossarian22 on Sep 3, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
uncanny how the game unfolded in front of my eyes on the TV last night
I watched the entire first and a half innings. oh how my heart sang to see us put up a 5 spot on crapenter. baby got fussy and had to adjourn to fatherly duties, flipped back over to the game to see we were tied at 5 and with Frazier up proceeding to grab the lead back. more moving about the house not really paying attention to the game. get into bed and put the game back on, tied again at 6 and then Alonso hits his tater. the game really didn’t mean shit, so I let my wife watch SyFy while a read a little. her program ended, and I flipped back over just in time to see Francisco’s tater. Proceeded to watch till the game ended in a Reds win. Really uncanny that it seemed every time I put the game on, the Reds were putting up runs.
Oh, and Chris Carpenter is a douchnozzle.
by Howie Feltersnatch on Sep 3, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
so you're to blame. . .
had you watched the game faithfully the whole way through we would have won 55-0 and carpenter would have been lynched by an angry mob
I planned it this way
I’m to be credited, not blamed, for the Reds offensive prowess :) I planned it this way. We don’t need Carpenter lynched since he’ll be in our rotation in a couple years. /ducks
by Howie Feltersnatch on Sep 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
so that we can lynch carpenter?
not a bad plan. . . cincy has a much better and colorful history of lynch mobs that st. louis
no no no, you miss understand
planned it that Carpenter wouldn’t be lynched cause he’ll be part of our 2013 WS team. /ducks again
by Howie Feltersnatch on Sep 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
but the lynching is planned in there as part of the championship celebration
right after the trophy presentation
by theembalmer on Sep 3, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I spewed some coffee on my laptop.
it turns on, but 5 or 6 keys are non-responsive. I am not having a great day.

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