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Playoff Matchup: Rangers and Rays

Hi, long time no see!

I'm going to try to do a playoff match-up series in line with the series previews I did this season until I was crushed by the unrighteous fury of my semester from hell.  I'm calling them a match-up series rather than a preview series because a) I'm not going to get these all done before the teams start playing, and b) it's hard to do a preview when you don't even know the pitching probables because the Rays can't make up their minds!  It's like they're still in some kind of giddy haze from their amazing run to overtake the Red Sox....  Anyway, here we go.

Team Comparison: Rays vs. Rangers

Raysrangersteamcomp_mediumThe Rays are the most impressively run team in baseball.  I really don't think there can be any question of this right now.  This is a team that started the season with a $42 M payroll after peaking out at $73 M last year, lost two key players in Carl Crawford an Carlos Pena, as well as pretty much their entire bullpen.  They have crap attendance.  And they are going to the playoffs for the third time in four years.

That all said, AL East or not, they are here by the wild card.  And based on pretty much every measure, they had a weaker showing in 2011 than the Rangers.  The Rangers, even after adjusting for their offense-inducing ballpark, have a better offense, a deeper rotation, and thanks to some deadline deals, a more impressive bullpen.  The only place where the Rays seem to be clearly superior is their fielding--by all measures save for nFRAA (which, as has been pointed out, often contradicts all the other measures...I just don't know about it), the Rays are probably the best fielding team in baseball.  And the Rangers are just very good.

But things happen in short series, and the Rays are a very good team.  And there are some things about the way the Rays are constructed that might even the match-up in a short series.  Let's take a look at the players.

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Position Players

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Rays

The playoff rosters aren't out yet afaik, so I'm just showing the expanded September rosters.  One of the key things that has happened is that the Rays have been commonly playing Sean Rodriguez over Reid Brignac at short.  Brignac had a decent showing last year, but was even worse than Paul Janish at the plate this season.  Rodriguez isn't his equal defensively, and he isn't great against righties, but he is not a black hole of production.  ...  that said, Brignac started the last three games, so it may be that they'll go with him in the playoff as well.

First half wonder Matt Joyce came back down to earth a bit in the second half (as did the even bigger wonder Sam Fuld), but this was bouyed by good second halfs from Evan Longoria and Ben Zobrist.  Also, WTF Casey Kotchman?  I really don't know if I believe he can be an above-average hitter, but he had his best season since 2007 this year...and arguably of his career given the reductions in overall offense between then and now.

There's not much on the bench for the Rays save for defensive specialists like the aforementioned Fuld and Brignac.  Dan Johnson didn't play much of a role on the team this year, but I could see him making the playoff roster if they wanted a power bat off the bench.

Rangers

Remember all the scuttlebutt this spring about where Michael Young would play this spring?  Well, there you go, he ended up with the second-most PA's on the team behind Ian Kinsler.  Hey, also, did you notice Ian Kinsler cleared 700 PA's this year?  I didn't do well in my spring playing time predictions with this team...

The scary thing about this offense is that they've probably underperformed.  Young-Kinsler-Beltre all seem about where you'd expect them to be.  But Josh Hamilton has shown he's capable of far better than he hit this season (and yes, for the record, the Reds made a really bad trade there, and I should have said as much when it happened...I put too much worry into the drug-related risk with Hamilton and not enough in the basic truism that you don't trade away young star position players for young pitchers with potential...because young pitchers with potential break).  Nelson Cruz is capable of far better than what he showed too.  The only guy who really overperformed is Mike Napoli, who is impossible to bench too often when he's hitting like an MVP despite his lack of catching ability.

 

Overall...I think the season numbers actually look pretty close on offense once you replace Brignac with Rodriguez in the Rays lineup.  But for bust out potential, I think you have to like the Rangers and their underperforming corner outfielders.

 

Starting Pitching

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As alluded to above, there are no probable starters listed for the Rays, and game 3 is TBD for both teams.  So I'm just punting and listing the possibilities here.  If you just list the pitchers in rank order and compare the Rays to the Rangers, I think it's pretty clear that the Rays have the better top of rotation talent...but when you get to the #3 or #4 starter, the Rangers are at least competitive if not superior.  They are deep in the way that I thought the Reds had a chance to be--lots of very solid pitching up and down the rotation.  For the Rays, Jeremy Hellickson, in particular, does not have particularly attractive peripherals to go with his sparkly ERA, and might be at a disadvantage against virtually any of the Rangers starters.  

The question really does come to match-ups.  The Rays just swept the Yankees to win their playoff spot by a game over the Red Sox.  But as a result, they've burned both of their top two starters.  Shields pitched on Wednesday, and Shields is apparently not pitching game 1 either (he'd be on 3 days rest).  So we're looking at one of Niemann, Davis, or Matt Moore for the start.  Moore's a huge prospect, and I frankly wouldn't be shocked to see him get the nod.  But who knows?  I'm guessing that games 2 and 3 would go to Shields and Price, respectively.

The Rangers, on the other hand, had the option to set their playoff rotation thanks to a comfortable 10-game lead in the West.  Former reliever turned starter (the Rangers have a few of those guys...) CJ Wilson will start game one, with Derek Holland going in game 2.  I'd expect to see Colby Lewis in game 3, but it hasn't been announced.  So we might be looking at a game 1 that favors the Rangers, but games 2 and 3 that might favor the Rays if their big two starters throw those games.

Bullpen

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The Rays completely overhauled their bullpen this offseason, but it ended up working pretty well.  Kyle Farnsworth performed as the better of the two closers this season.  And Joel Peralta had another nice season in the pen to follow his success with the Nationals last year (though xFIP is not as excited about him as SIERA).  But after that, it's pretty much mix 'n match.  I will mention that Jake McGee has seen increased usage of late.  He was in the mix to be the Rays' closer this spring, and ended up starting the season in the minors.  But he has the stuff to be a difference maker against the Rangers' left-handed outfield/DH.

On the Rangers' side, Neftali had an absolutely terrible first half despite never suffering in the ERA department.  But he seems to have picked it up in the second half to at least some degree, perhaps in part due to the arrivals of a spectacular pair of setup guys in Uehara and Mike Adams.  If Neftali is right, the Rangers have the potential for a Nasty Boys thing in the playoffs this year.  I'm just not sure that Neftali is all better yet...

 

I'm looking forward to this series.  While the Rangers have better numbers on the season, I think the advantage at the top of the Rays' rotation helps even the series up a fair bit.  I also think that what the Rays do at shortstop might be a big deal.  You'd think that Rodriguez would get the nod against the lefties in games 1 & 2.  After that, who knows?  I think watching the Rangers' bullpen late in the game should be fun too.

Next up...I dunno, one of the NL series, probably, because I hate writing about the Yankees.

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Paul Janish's former Rice teammate

(and one of the reasons he’s a SS and not a pitcher) will start game 1 for the Rays.

That would be Jeff Niemann. Or sayeth this SB Nation article.

From the way they played the last week, I’m guessing Brignac will start. .448 OPS and all. The Rays trust in defense. If they fall behind by a bunch, they’ll sub in Rodriguez, as they did last night. (He pinch-hit for Brignac in the 5th, when they were already down 7-0.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 29, 2011 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

of course as soon as I post that

they announce it’s going to be Matt Moore instead.

There is supposedly some concern about Niemann’s health. He’s had back problems lately.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 29, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

I’m much more excited about watching Matt Moore than Niemann. :)
-j

by JinAZ on Sep 30, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

give us phillies

i want sweeeeet revenge for last year!

Crush them, Roy!

oh yeah, thanks for this one too. Just a little focused right now, that’s all.

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by bbjones on Sep 29, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Phillies will steamroll the Cards

But I’m kind of excited about the Rays-Rangers. If good pitching beats good hitting, then the Rays should have a decent chance.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 29, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

With full rest, I might go with them

But not now.

Also, their closer is Kyle Farnsworth.

by ken on Sep 29, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Farnsworthless

doesn’t inspire confidence. But the Rangers have the worst bullpen in the league except for the cellar-dwelling Orioles and Twins.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's not worthless

in a fight.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 30, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

what a blast from the past

Dusty was the Cubs manager then, and implies that the Reds are a bunch of thugs.

The start of the brawl was earlier, when Prior threw behind Jason LaRue.

The Reds were “battling for first place” in that game, but ended up finishing in 4th place, 19 games back.

As for Farnsy…he had a reputation for being really weird when he was a Yankee. He wasn’t hated or anything, but he just never fit in, and didn’t seem to want to.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2011 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

By what measure?

They look about average on the year, and as J mentioned they added two good relievers in July.

by ken on Sep 30, 2011 8:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, the Rangers look pretty darn good in the pen

You basically need, what, three relievers in the playoffs? With an occasional fourth? I like the Rangers top 4 a lot more than the Rays’ top 4. Adams is lights out, and Uehara might even be better. All they need is a functional Feliz and they’re in great shape.
-j

by JinAZ on Sep 30, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rangers definitely gain more from shortening their bullpen

The rays might gain more from a shortened rotation, however. The Rangers rotation is pretty consistent below Wilson, and was remarkably healthy. It will be strong, but not much stronger than in the regular season.

Tampa gets to lean more heavily on Price/Shields, plus young Matt Moore may well throw more innings in this series than he did in the entire regular season. There is a good chance that Tampa’s playoff rotation will be quite a bit stronger than their regular season rotation (assuming Moore doesn’t implode on them).

Molecular gastronomy can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Sep 30, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was pretty much my observation in the OP

The Rays improve more than the Rangers do in a playoff series, primarily because their rotation is so top-heavy. I do love that they’re going with Moore in game 1, though. He probably does give them the best chance to steal a win against CJ Wilson.

And if they play Rodriguez against the lefties, as they really should, it makes their offense pretty close to even with the Rangers once you adjust for home parks (as RC+ does).

Overall, I think the two teams are pretty close to even. The Rangers were the better team during the season, and should be favorites for this series because of that. But the Rays are right there.
-j

by JinAZ on Sep 30, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Farnsworth

Has been quite good the last few years. He’s become a control pitcher, and still has good strikeout rates. He gets the job done.
-j

by JinAZ on Sep 30, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's weird

that I’m now rooting for a Phillies first round sweep.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 30, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

salary comparision

The Rays have Zobrist, Longaria, Price, Wade Davis and Shields signed for next year at 14 million. This group produced 22.9 WAR. Adam Dunn signed for the exact same amount (2.9).
I just hope the Rays dont abuse the Reds opening day pitcher James Shields.

by davidmac84 on Sep 30, 2011 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

so

What do you think it would take to shake Shields loose?

They need offense. The Manny Ramirez thing didn’t work out. Maybe they’d be interested in Alonso?

Then there’s the SS situation. Would you include Cozart in a deal?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

no Cozart

and the Rays have that Lee in AA- so not a huge need for them.
Grandall and Alonso for Shields and Cobb- seems like a fair trade for both sides.
Rays upgrade offensive long term- still have a great rotation with Moore, Price, Hellickson, Niemann, Davis/Torres
Reds Rotation: Shields, Cueto, Leake, Arroyo, Cobb/Bailey/Volquez/Wood- Reds should be setup for a nice 2 year run. Shields is signed for only 2 million 2012 so should be able to use that has leverage to extend him.

by davidmac84 on Sep 30, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably have to throw in a couple more prospects

Maybe a Todd Frazier and another good prospect a little further buried in the Minors…Soto? Valiquette?

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Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I think it’s going to take more than Grandal and Alonso to get the deal done. A lot of teams will be knocking on Tampa’s door inquiring about Shields. It really doesn’t matter if it’s a fair trade. It has to be more than what other teams are offering. That’s what matters.

On the bright side, maybe the Rays will be reluctant to deal him to the Yanks or Sox. That would take two of the wealthier suitors out of the picture.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 30, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, you're right

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 30, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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