Back nine: Some things that might be worth your attention over the final 3 series
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 19, 2011 12:17 PM EDT
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Print.500?
The Reds have been hovering around 3-games-below-.500 for the better part of two months, but find themselves a full five under after being swept by the Brewers this weekend. So it's a long shot: getting to .500 to complete the first back-to-back non-losing seasons since '99-00 would require the Reds to win 7 of their final 9. But 6 of these 9 games are against the Astros, Pirates and that RC Cola Optimum Yard of Wonders team.
30 HRs, 100 RBIs again for Votto
Maybe you're rooting perversely for Votto to fall short of these milestones so he's more affordable to extend. Well, don't, because that's wrong to do. And it's far more likely he'll get there than not re-sign with the Reds over $5,000 and a private suite perk. Votto's sitting at 28 HRs and 98 RBIs currently. He stands a good chance of topping his 2010 OBP mark (.424), while going on a serious tear over the last nine games could propel him over 1.000 OPS.
100 RBIs, 100 (career) HRs for Jay
UPDATED, thanks to Slyde: Bruce only needs one dinger for 100 career HRs. The century mark on RBIs is bit of a stretch. Bruce currently has 92 so it would require a little less than one per game the rest of the way.
20 HRs for Brandon Phillips
Probably also less than 50% likely, as BP would have to hit 4 in 9 games. But he did just recently hit 4 in 4 games during the Cubs series. So adjusting for wind resistance, expect 25 home runs.
40 SBs for Drew Stubbs
With 37 SBs to date, Stubbs has the most steals of any Red since Ryan Freel did 37 jobs in 2006. No one has stolen 40 or more in Cincinnati since Neon Primetime sole 54 back in '97.
70+ Ks for Chapman
Chapman lives at the extremes of pitching: He has the highest K-rate, lowest hit-rate, lowest HR-rate and highest walk-rates on the team. His 67 Ks in 46 innings give him 13.1 SOs-per-9 - second-highest of any Reds' pitcher in history to throw 40 innings or more in a season (the top two are both Rob Dibbles).
If not for having such an unfortunately high BB-rate, Chapman's season would have been a straight ticket to a closer or starting job. His knee-buckling K of Fielder on Sunday showed again how dominating he can be, but striking out lefties was never his problem. As it stands, Chapman is in line for a partially-ironic Three True Outcomes Triple Crown.
A few walks from Juan Francisco
Francisco walked at a lower rate in the minors in 2011 vs. 2010 and is walking at a lower rate this year in Cincinnati than during his two pervious cups of coffee, but the latter sample sizes at least are small enough to disregard. El Nino Destructor drew one during yesterday's game, when base runners were scarce and I've noticed him lay off at least a few low change-ups or breaking balls designed to bait him.
Signs of improvement in Alonso's and Francisco's defense
Alonso and Francisco both played miscue-free days at their respective positions yesterday, while Francisco recently did one of these:
Brooksrobinsonian? There's not much question that Francisco has the arm for the position. With jitters behind them, we can continue to get a better read on what their MLB defense will be like.
Career marks for Bailey
Homer's had another year of fits and starts - and this may well be the season even his staunchest supporters stop expecting him to blossom into an "ace." Still, he's topped his season marks for innings pitched and is currently well under his career lows in WHIP and walk-rate, while just a shade below last year's ERA mark, sitting at 4.43. His ERA+ is a couple ticks lower, but with two starts left on the schedule, Homer still has a chance to further set this season apart from past campaigns. With the wreckage strewn throughout the starting rotation, it's hard to see Homer as anything worse than this year's #3 starter.
More comfort at the plate for Devin
Some of the overeagerness has subsided. With Hanigan and Hernandez ailing, Devin should get a chance to settle in a little bit.
Vital signs for Todd Frazier
Will he raise high the coveted "20 PAs in September" ribbon?
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Jay Bruce also needs one more HR for 100 career HR
He’ll be the 3rd youngest Red to reach 100 HR behind Bench and Robinson. If he does it this year, or early next year, he’ll do it in the 5th fewest games as a Red behind Dunn, Robinson, Eric Davis, and Wally Post.
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by Slyde on Sep 19, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't realize Stubbs had that many stolen bases
I’d love to see him get 40.
What’s worth my attention: last road trip of the season this week. You know what that means: rookie dress-up day!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Do Yonder and Todd have to subject themselves to that again,
or do they get a pass for being part of it last year? I can’t remember if END was involved last year.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Sep 19, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they have to do it again
i think i remember reading that Bailey had to do it twice, once in September of 2007 and again in September of 2009.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
That was probably just because the veterans wanted to stick it to the smug, jerk pitcher!
I’d think Alonso’s efforts and performance should earn him a pass.
probably depends on how mean the veterans want to be
Poor Keppinger had to do it three times, though that was partly because he was with different teams.
But if there’s one thing worse than being forced to dress up, it’s being left out. There have been some instances where a rookie was forgotten. The others found funny costumes in their lockers, but for some reason or another, they were forgotten. They were really bummed.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
rookie hazing
should be fun and with more Twitter activity than ever, especially the addition of BP, we will probably get to enjoy it more.
someone should ask BP
what he had to dress up as when he was a rookie.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'll be going to the game Wednesday, and I'm looking forward to seeing Bronson
go for Lima’s record. Lots of cheap seats available on StubHub, and by cheap I mean hundreds of seats are available for $1 or less.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
gonna catch tomorrows game
Party People getting day of game five buck ducats then working on the RR Year End awards!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 19, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you could probably get $5 tickets at field level from a scalper tomorrow.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
oh Homer, how you've toyed with our hearts.
Of all of these, I’ll be watching Homer’s starts the closest. I really hope he can rekindle the “look ma, a SPLITFINGER!” form he once had and can finish strong.
Another is getting Dontreezy a win. What’s the record for most losses without a win? He’s bound to be close to that dubious honor.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 19, 2011 1:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Terry Felton of the 1982 Minnesota Twins holds the record for losses in a season without a win: 13.
The NL record of 12 losses with no wins is held by Russ Miller of the 1928 Philadelphia Phillies.
The Reds record was set by Brian Reith in 2001 when he went 0-7.
There are some good players (mostly relievers) who made it into the top 25 seasons: Heathcliff Slocomb, Rod Beck, Robb Nen, John Franco, and Brad Lidge.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Sep 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Il Homerino
lowest BB/9 of his career. Also a .288 BABIP, which is low for him and cause to temper enthusiasm.
It’s also his first season with more flyballs than grounders, but his HR/FB rate is a bit inflated.
Moral of the story…I still have no idea what to make of him. It gets forgotten easily, but he threw 200+ IP in 2009 between Louisville and Cincy, so it’s not like he’s still building arm strength or whatever. I could see a Matt Clement sort of career for him, having a few good years in the 28-30 age range before fizzling out. Though hopefully without the frightening shoulder surgery. It’s less frustrating, more baffling.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
He needs to throw more two seamers
A k/9 in the 6s isn’t bad if you have have a ground ball rate around 50%, it is troubling when the ground ball rate is below 40%.
Remember when he had electric stuff?
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
i just looked him up
he now has his k/9 over 7, which is nice to see.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
His last start wasn't great, but he did strike out 9 in 6 IP or something like that.
If Cueto is your #1 and Leake is your #3, Homer makes a perfectly fine #4.
The issue is still that the team needs a solid #2 starter, because Leake isn’t quite a #2 and Homer isn’t a #4.*
*The other issue is that Bronson isn’t even a #6 at this point, but that’s a problem with no solution.
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child, please
had a final due at 8AM this morning after going to a Hawk and a Hacksaw concert. Coffee and coke oughta get you over it.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
ooohhh, 8 AM. Someone get this guy a cookie!
I’ve already taught an entire class every single day by then.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
well, it was tough for ME, ok?
and I was at a conference all weekend. Everyone from Kyrgyzstan smells vaguely like my grandpa.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Yeah, but you're teaching high schoolers
The minor leaguers of humans. Totally untranslateable scenario, brah.
by Brendanukkah on Sep 19, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Nah, high schoolers are the rookies of humans
8th graders are the low-A ball minor leaguers. Absolutely nothing to get excited about there.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
is there a Brian LaHair in there?
Someone with absolutely no promise who still somehow manages to shit on your day?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
But 8:00 AM is the minor leagues of the rest of the day
Call me when you’re getting classes taught by 12:30.
by Brendanukkah on Sep 19, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The team really needs an ace to go in front of Cueto.
I still believe Cueto is mismatched against other most other playoff teams’ ace. If they can go ACE/Cueto/Leake/Bailey/Arroyo would be a fine staff next year, with Chapman, Maloney, Volquez (if he isn’t a relief pitcher), and Wood serving as the support cast.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
I don't really care about the 1/2/3/4/5 pitcher slotting
but the Reds need another pitcher they can pen in with ~4-7 WAR. How they get that, well, I don’t know. But I don’t want to just hope that Leake or Bailey will grow into him.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
I just don't want to see them add a mediocre starter
I don’t want them to decide that Cueto is the ace, and they really just need a guy to serve a younger Bronson Arroyo who would be expected to throw 200 innings with an ERA+ of about 100.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
Agreed.
I’m just sick of half measures (Renteria, Fred Lewis, etc.) by this team. Either accept the deficiency or take a full measure.
I guess to clarify...
I’d rather that we solve one of our glaring problems with substantial free-agent signing or trade that has a decent amount of risk and then, rely on internal options to “grow” into the remaining roles.
I think most of us would probably rank the Reds problems like this: #1 Top-of-the-rotation pitching, #2 Shortstop, #3 Relief pitching, #4 Left-field.
We have the potential in all of these areas for in-house options to blossom, but also have substantial risk that they will blow up in our face. I feel like if you do nothing to address any of the items above, the team will have another losing season next year. It’s nearly a crap-shoot to figure out which areas that internal options will blossom or bust, so I think you try to find the cheapest option to get a contributor above. Make your move in whichever market has the most surplus.
by Nasty N8 on Sep 19, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This makes a lot of sense
They can’t truly fix all 4, so pick 1 or at most 2, and really fix them.
The trick is deciding which ones. The other trick is the fix being available. I feel like shoring up the bullpen shouldn’t be that difficult, but I also feel like that will have the least impact on next year’s team.
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I agree
Except that’s probably not what’s going to happen.
Ken Rosenthal thinks/has been told/is guessing that the Reds’ “No. 1 goal is to add a middle-of-the-order hitter. A left fielder would be one possibility, but the Reds also could seek a third baseman, shortstop or center fielder.” Despite the fact that the Reds have (1) a good hitting SS, (2) a CF who’s both OK offensively and very good defensively, and (3) three “middle-of-the-order hitter(s)” (if you think Alonzo is a LF). Oh, and (4) another LF who’s 3rd on the team in HR despite having only 275 PA (and seems to get forgotten in all of these discussions).
I sure hope he’s guessing.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
a shortstop should be the priority position player, not left field
they have options at left field and third base, Cozart is their best hope at Short.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
Why?
Why would SS be the priority position, and why would you say “Cozart is their best hope” like that’s a bad thing?
He hit throughout his minor league career (except his first, brief appearance in Dayton), will only be 26 next year, and is considered “solid” defensively; John Sickles, for one, thinks “(h)is glove will keep him employed in the majors”.
He isn’t Paul Janish; in about 100 more PA, his minor league OPS is about 100 points higher (and Cozart had 50% more AAA PAs, while Janish had about 50% more A and lower PA).
Meanwhile, their options at 3B are (1) hurt and aging Rolen, (2) Francisco (who seems to have no patience at the plate (4/1 k/bb in the majors; 6/1 in the minors) and seems to be a defensive liability), and (3) Frazier, who hasn’t exactly set the world on fire (though to be fair he hasn’t been given a chance).
As for opportunity, who except Reyes (who’s going to be demanding a 9 figure contract) is both available and better than Cozart?
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
JJ Hardy
but I just think it’s premature to say that Cozart is a good-hitting SS, after a nice 38 PA sample.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Hardy
…signed a 3 year extension with a limited no-trade clause this year. He’s also someone who isn’t as good as his reputation - BBRef has him at about 2.6 WAR/650 PA; fangraphs loooooves his defense, which makes him about 4 WAR/650 PA. Of course, they love Cozart’s defense even more, so who knows?
Bottom line to me: Hardy isn’t available, and even if he is he isn’t likely that much of an upgrade over Cozart.
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
I still think we should trade for Hanley Ramirez.
In other news, I am an awesome deceased equine percussionist.
You're right, he's not available
forgot about the extension. But he’s definitely an upgrade over Cozart when healthy. Unless Cozart turns out way better than I think.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Cozart had a .310 OBP in 2010 in AAA, that is not good.
He did hit better last year, but still not so well you think he is has sewn up a big league job. Plus their is no back up plan if he doesn’t work out.
At third base their are three potential options, if Rolen is hurt and old, Francisco and Frazier can have a go at it. I think between the three of them something will work out, if Dusty does it right.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
by Yossarian22 on Sep 19, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
YOUUUUUUK!!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 19, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree generally, but 200 IP of 100 OPS+ would've helped this year's team tremendously.
Just sayin’
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Yeah 2009/10 Arroyo would be been great
but we need somebody to team up with Cueto at the top of the staff, or else we will continue to be in trouble when we face the Phillies or whomever in the playoffs.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
Again, mostly agreed
But for this team’s budget and thinking about reality, a very dependable, league average innings eater would probably get this team to the playoffs next year.
Having Cueto/Leake/LeagueAverageGuyX/Homer/Arroyo would probably be sufficient to get this team and its offense to the playoffs. And as much as I’d love to see them win the world series, I’m really just more concerned with them getting back to the postseason.
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I'll also say
that I could see Chapman being LeagueAverageGuyX as early as next year.
Unfortunately, the way they handled him this year guarantees he ain’t coming close to 200 IP any time soon.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I'd almost rather go with what we got
then take a chance on an averagish pitcher, who will get paid shitton of money for the value of being an average pitcher.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
Playoffs... you want to talk about playoffs?
Unless the Brewers and Cardinals both sit on their hands in the off-season, I think next year will be another challenging season for the Reds. If those teams can’t re-sign their stars, they will have some spending money to make some moves. After last year’s boldness has paid off for the Brewers, I could see them going for broke in 2012!
In theory, this makes sense
But both teams have significant holes to fill too.
If they don’t re-sign Fielder, the Brewers have a huge, gaping hole at 1B. 1B are pretty easy to find, but they won’t get one nearly as good as Fielder for what they were paying him. They also really need a SS, and maybe even a 3B. C is fairly weak as well.
The Cards are in better shape IMO. They have a solid rotation, esp with Wainwright coming back. I could see them re-signing Berkman as a replacement for not getting Pujols to come back. In the OF they are a bit thin, but they still have Holliday. The middle infield is where they are really going to be weak, but so are most teams.
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"200 IP of 100 OPS+" just blew my mind
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
That's Micah owings!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 19, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
do you (or anyone, for that matter) know what to make of Pitch Values?
They seem too varied to be true, but what do I know?
Check out Bailey’s fangraphs page. I have no idea how to take signals from the noise on it, but then again, that’s why I don’t work in baseball. He shouldn’t make much more than $1m in arb next year, so I don’t see why it’d be worth cutting him loose. But yeah, the sinking groundball rate concerns me. The fact that he has a completely different arsenal than he did when he came up concerns me.
But he still has electric stuff, just used differently. I’d love to talk to him about where he sees his pitching strategy going, but it’s too bad nobody will ever interview him about that sort of stuff.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
I would be less concerned about his stuff
if he still hit 96 or 97 from time to time. But he doesn’t have the top end velocity he use to have. If his average fastball dropped, but his top end fastball was still 96 or 97 I would believe he learned how to “pitch” and has a lower cruise control, but his stuff just doesn’t compare to what it was in 2009.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
My mostly uneducated feeling on them
is that they are all really dependent on each other, and therefore none are inherently valuable by themselves.
For example, Tim Wakefield has very positive values on his Fastball over his career, even though he has a terrible fastball. But after looking at 15 straight knucklers, that 85 mph heat is probably terrifying.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
but how does Homer go from having a -7 fastball to a +6?
does that just mean his pitching strategy has changed?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
It's all based on how many outs vs. hits he gets off of it.
Maybe he’s using his secondary stuff to set it up better.
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I blame the coaching.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Sep 19, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
not even a good banhammer
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 19, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn, I'm dumb. Wakefield's fastball is 73(!)
Even more so, the point stands.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
This feels right
Harang fastball was a valuable pitch in 2006 and 2007. But in 2008 when his slider lost some of its bite, his fastball had negative value as well, despite not losing any noticeable velocity.
So hitters probably laid off the slider, they use to swing at and miss, and started hitting his slightly above average fastball.
I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.
Also, a case for cautious optimism
He has been a bit “unlucky” this year. His ERA is at 4.43, but his FIP is at 4.14, xFIP has him under 4 at 3.84, and SIERA is even kinder at 3.69.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
I thought this Fangraphs, erm, graph, was interesting:
College hitters taken in the top 10:
Stubbs has the least PAs of any of the non-busts, and while he hasn’t been the stud that many have, he’s been useful. He’s an interesting guy, and fast becoming My Favorite Red™ for all of the anger and joy he brings. Is he a stats darling or a scouting darling? Does he have room for improvement or not? Is he the handsomest Red or the Hanigan of the outfield? There’s really no way to tell, but I at least appreciate that he gives us storylines.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
how many career WAR does edgard have?
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Sep 19, 2011 2:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
39.6
his best was 6.9 in 2003 while playing for the WLBs
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 19, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Drew Meyer is like the Pluto Nash
of top 10 college hitters.
I think it’s very unlikely that Stubbs reaches Zimmerman or Longoria’s level but I’m hopeful there will be improvement and we can always count on his CF defense
by Red_Poodle on Sep 19, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, a lot of that value is based on his fielding and positional equivalency
which make him tough to accurately judge by WAR. But you can’t accurately judge him on K, so yeah, I don’t really know what to make of him.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
That's one of the better analogies on RR lately
Well done, RP
There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.
not the handsomest Red
unless your taste runs to balding accountants.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
why does Stubbs go in the "non-bust" category?
his WAR value is all defense, all the time, and while that does have some value, dude will only be serviceable by being a glove-toting gazelle in CF
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 19, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
trade him, the bum!
I bet the Yanks will give us Chris Dickerson for him.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
SSS alert
Dickerson has Stubbs beat in Park Adjusted Runs Above Average based on wOBA, 2.2 to -1.9.
Dickerson also has Stubbs beat in Fielding Runs Above Average based on UZR, .8 to -2.2.
Stubbs beats Dickerson in 5.1 to .2, although I’m not sure what the Hell it’s measuring.
I’ll still take Dickerson and his .357 career OBP over Stubbs and his .325 career OBP any day :)
I know, I know, Dickerson only has about 565 career PA, while Stubbs has 1430 career PA, so Dickerson will regress and Stubbs can only improve!
But, to Dickerson’s credit, he walked at a higher % and struck out at a lower %! I still believe in you Chris!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 20, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I always liked chris, mostly due to his alma mater
But the guy could never stay on the field, at least at this point we know we can count on Stubbs to be out there on a mostly day to day basis.
by pack_fan on Sep 20, 2011 6:42 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
that's all the more reason to like him
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
well yeah, dude is fragile
and that’s putting it mildly
but he was always a fav of mine
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Sep 20, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Things are getting really close in Boston
Just lost the first game to the Orioles
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Yankees are definitely in a position to play King-maker
All of their remaining games are vs. the Rays and Sox.
So quick poll… if you’re the Yankees, do you (1) give the hot Rays a leg up, (2) give the struggling Sox a leg up, or (3) play it as you would anybody else and let the chips fall where they may?
Let the chips fall where they may
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I'm sure the Yankees will let the chips fall where they may
Yankees fans want to see the Sox crash and burn.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
King-makers, yeah, that's the ticket
That’s why the Reds dropped 3 to the Brewers. To make sure the Cardinals didn’t win.
Sure.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Anyone know
who’s pitching tonight for the Reds?
"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"
TWood is pitching tonight.
cockblocker
Cingrani for 2012 Closer!
by OGC Reds on Sep 19, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone know
who is pitching tonight?
Stools are where once upon a time you'd find a chair. A chair's for fools! Everybody wants stools!
by ClownPenis.Fart on Sep 19, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
I thought it was Scott Bankhead's turn.
Stools are where once upon a time you'd find a chair. A chair's for fools! Everybody wants stools!
by ClownPenis.Fart on Sep 19, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well now, how would that work?
She clearly has no more arm strength ever since the dishwasher was invented
Cingrani for 2012 Closer!
by OGC Reds on Sep 19, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much anyone can pitch over 90.
Control is a different story.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Sep 19, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
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