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It's mid-September, I really should get back to school. Greinke I wish I'd never seen your face. Reds lose 8-1

Should really be a curvy pipe in there. Can someone please pitch while smoking a pipe before this pointless season is over?

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Sam LeCure.  Proved his mettle by throwing 2.1 scoreless innings of early relief. There's a chance he might be called on again pretty soon. Honorable mention goes to Juan Francisco, for batting in the Reds' only run and drawing a walk.

Key Plays

  • The Reds stuck to their 2011 playbook, allowing a 1st-inning runs unpleasantly, professionally and efficiently. Starter Matt Maloney surrendered 4 of them in the first on a pair of two-run home runs of the bats of Carlos Gomez and Prince Fielder (the latter a 90 mph meatball up in the zone). Maloney found out he was starting just about two hours before game time and hadn't really stayed stretched out (or been used much at all) since being called up earlier this month. Rust never sleeps, especially for non-"stuff" pitchers.
  • Improvement in the top of the second. Only 3 runs crossed the plate. Sam LeCure replaced Maloney and recorded the final out.
  • The Reds were being no-hit by a locked-in Zach Greinke until the 5th. That's when the floodgates opened. Unfortunately, they're very small floodgates. Francisco broke up the no-no and Mesoraco brought him around with an RBI single after Drew Stubbs worked a walk. Todd Frazier, PH-ing for Jared Burton, loaded the bases with a walk. "Loaded" and "the" and "bases" together should fill in the rest: the threat was snuffed out when Brandon Phillips was retired on an admittedly loud and long fly ball out.
  • Aroldis Chapman pitched a scoreless 7th to walk his ERA back below 4.00.
  • Juan Francisco walked in the bottom of the seventh.
  • Greinke was pulled for the 8th, but the Reds didn't seem to notice, going down in order.
  • Before the Reds went 1-2-3 in the bottom of the ninth, Cordero came on in the top of the inning and picked up the reverse -7 run save. Brewers win, 8-1.

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via www.fangraphs.com

Star-divide

Other Notes:

  • The Top 5 in the order (Phillips, Renteria, Votto, Bruce and Alonso ) went a combined 0-20.
  • The Reds' offense has put up 2 runs and 4 hits over their last 18 innings.
  • 7 Reds' pitchers were used in the game. Wood pitched last night, but hopefully he's up for some innings tomorrow, as Dontrelle's status (back spasms) remains uncertain. The list of Reds' pitchers with reasonable rest that can safely pitch more than 2 innings on Monay is dangerously short.

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recd for the reference

Edwin does an outstanding version of maggie mae

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Carp v Hamels tonight

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Sep 18, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Today is a piece of fucking shit for sports

"'Walkseem' is the word Marty uses when he is angry.
And he walkseem! Walkseem again!" - Cuetotally Amazing

by Ram27 on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Quit crying

I bet you aren’t old enough to remember the last Colts losing season.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of us are...and then some

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

da bobcats dropped 44 on marshall last night

Life is good

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 5:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also, they played a game in Lexington last night that someone had to win

And the good guys won!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you bet than?

He owes you a rivertown pumpkin ale!

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So who's all aboard the Andrew Luck train?

I know I am

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

The Bengals would draft someone other than Luck

SWIDT?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think the 2011-2012 Bengals are destined for mediocrity.

Which would, unfortunately, put them out of the running for Luck.

by FordhamRam on Sep 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that guy even remembers the $100 bet

I still have his business card. :)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I SWYDT...bastard

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

go stanford!

here’s hopin’ he’ll come back for senior year, too….

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Sep 18, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta agree on LeCure and END

They were about the only ones who didn’t have sucktastic games.

What a hideous Fangraph.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately, I went to the game today.

Where is Justin? Someone should check on him.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm fine

spent the day at Fountain Square collecting signatures to get medical marijuana on the ballot.

I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.

by Yossarian22 on Sep 18, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

why are you clapping for yourself?

I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.

by Yossarian22 on Sep 18, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

subject line

subject line

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Sep 19, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I want to strangle Jennifer Lopez and burn down the nearest Fiat dealership

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

jennifer lopez is tremendous

But almost assuredly batshit crazy.

Where the hell are charlie sheens godesses lately?

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

One's hosting the 2012 AVN's and appearing on the cover of Playboy

The other is…still smoking pot in bikini’s I imagine

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh you KNOW she's insane

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets won a close one over the Braves

Cards now 4 games back in the WC. They’ll play the Phillies tonight.

Rays beat Boston. They are now just 2 games back in WC.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 18, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

they could definitely beat the redskins

Might have trouble with the Colts

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

are we doing a thread tonigh for the emmy's & the falcons/eagles game

i’m really looking forward to that game.

also, i’m drinking a 1 pint 6 oz bottle of stone’s 15th anniversary imperial black ipa. it’s pretty incredible

by 'tHan on Sep 18, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a pick'em game for the Emmys this year?

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 18, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make one, foo!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

imperial black?

that sounds kinda racist for an IPA, no?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Terra Nova? The premise sounds interesting for that but it looks like it's gonna suck

And I agree on unforgettable.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steven Lang is one of my favorite mediocre actors of all time

he takes an impossible role and just fucking SELLS it.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Sep 18, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's fucking Jurassic Park

just a tv series version

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worse than According to Jim?

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it has Poppy Montgomery...that's got to be worth something

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, haven't seen the commercial. But she has this

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jordan Shipley down

Dalton hung him out to dry there.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Dalton's looked good so far

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said that the Bengals problems won't be at QB this season.

They’ll come from the:
1. poor offensive line
2. shallow secondary
3. underperforming linebacking corps

by FordhamRam on Sep 18, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How the hell did I only assign 3 confidence points to the Broncos? #smdh

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Still.....

I’ve only missed one game so far, stupid Ravens. Why didn’t we go for free wings this week? They weren’t terrible.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

God, they're playing the hell out of the J-Lo commerical

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Kitna time in Dallas!

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Best and Peterson went off for you today

49 points

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck you in the ESPN league, btw

and I say that with love, my friend

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're only projected to shove it in me by 6

I still have guys to go

lotta football to be played!

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've still got Bradshaw, Jackson, and Eagles D left

All you need is 50 + points combined!

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, yeah

That was a really bad Autodraft for him. He got like four retired players

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's Red Menace's team

And I don’t know who the “Cincinnati Beatdowns” are

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 18, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

me either

I do know they started Peyton and Colston, though.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 18, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bradshaw, he's on the block

I want him off my team yesterday

I have high hopes for Jackson and the Eagles D

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ll take him

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

good

make me an offer

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Santonio Holmes and Mark Ingram

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hot damn

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Sep 18, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Josh McDaniels was not a good coach

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He looks like he has the potential to be more physical than Chad.

Chad was a finesse receiver who mainly used his footwork to gain an advantage. AJ seems to use his entire body.

by FordhamRam on Sep 18, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's been a ton of Carson hate on the interwebz today, I don't get it

I don’t blame him one bit for “retiring”.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't set that precedent

Everyone would leave the nati

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

#SoftSecondary

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully!

CUZ THEY JUST HIT EACH OTHER

by FordhamRam on Sep 18, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Another touchback, yeesh

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Bengals caught a break

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Sep 18, 2011 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the last time we let you call the plays

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 18, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fire fordhamram!

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can the ginger do it?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Run out of bounds

Mcgahee just Franco harris d that

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Dogfish head

Reason detre is solid

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

too sweet for me

it does pack quite a punch, though.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

*if you can find it

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 18, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have one in my basement

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a bar my work Mentor and I frequent

she’s convinced them to serve it on tap

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cock and Bull served half and half's of 120 and World Wide Stout

both 18% beers, in a 20 oz glass. That shouldn’t be legal.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burton baton is next

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burton Baton is mighty good

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the best one I've had

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Sep 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

very very tasty

i’m pretty sure it’s not in season though.

also packs a mighty punch

by 'tHan on Sep 18, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

so close

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Sep 18, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Good game bengals

23 seconds left and still competing

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Football night in America time

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

DET is an ach blowing town

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Sep 18, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you make a thread yet?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why can't Geico get HD cameras and/or kill themselves?

"'Walkseem' is the word Marty uses when he is angry.
And he walkseem! Walkseem again!" - Cuetotally Amazing

by Ram27 on Sep 18, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I'm getting too old for football

I can’t take the excitement. It’s the second freakin’ game of the season, and I could hardly watch the last part of the Cowboys game. Much as I love baseball, even game 7 of the World Series isn’t this heart-attack inducing.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 18, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks to me like Matt Maloney ...

… is still more testimony to the ever-growing body of evidence to support the contention that Dustmop and his coaching staff are brain-dead.

A guy who wasn’t supposed to pitch was doing what, reading magazines the last 15 days?

Was he going to save the shelling until Monday?

He wasn’t stretched out? Are you fuckin’ joking?

But you can all join the group ridicule now. Post the picture and green the snarky comments. But Bryan Price, Porky Lopez, Brook Jerkoby (oh yeah, 4 hits in 2 games) and Dustmop really have turned a contender into an embarrassment.

What a shame. But keep reading those sabremetrics about the Reds offense and keep pretending you can trade Yonder Alonso for an ace.

Bloggers don't play nothing. They just it back and hold court and criticize.

by johnu1 on Sep 18, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I thrilled to this

Mgr., Red Reporter

"Every office I've been in, there has been a guy with weird scars that he needs to explain to you—'it was one of those old Xerox machines, with a lot of razors in it'... or a pale person with a novel of supernatural erotica that keeps getting left on the printer. Major League lineups need those guys, too." - David Roth

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Sep 18, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

err ive knocked the guy

but saying he has zero trade value is silly. Not as much value as wood and bailey but meh, Alonso + Volquez could draw some team’s interest.

by cokane on Sep 18, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

what trade value does Volquez have?

dude can’t get it over the plate, and when he does, he’s giving up runs by the truckloads

tell me what trade value THAT has

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

3.21 ERA and ASG just 3 years ago. Plus, there's always a team that thinks it's (ahem) coaching can fix a guy

Agreed he has little, but he definitely has more than none.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Sep 18, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was 3 years ago

and he’s been TURRIBLE this year

he can’t find the fucking plate, and when he does, he’s giving up runs by the fucking truckload. he’s fucking worthless. fucking worthless. he had a great 2008. good for fucking him. what has he done since then? fucking nothing. fucking nothing. he’s worthless.

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely a good argument

Lots of angry young (and old) men on RR tonight.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Sep 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that was the blue sapphire and tonic typing

however, I stand by it this morning

Volquez is fucking worthless and has zero trade value

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 19, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is worthless

and he has zero fucking trade value

he’s a toss in, at best

someone, please tell me his trade value (realistically, of course)

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a toss in

he won’t bring back much on his own, but if the Reds go after a top of the shelf pitcher this off season, I am sure most teams would like to get Volquez as a part of the package, as their is a very real chance Volquez could step up and be an ace for them.

I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.

by Yossarian22 on Sep 20, 2011 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude's gotta learn to find the plate again before he'll have value

and I’m really legitimately skeptical of what we’d get in return if Volquez is the main trade piece. I can’t be the only one….

What do you honestly package with Volquez to get a top shelf pitcher, and what are you defining as a top shelf pitcher?

We took a chance on Volquez, and how we lookin’ on that?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 20, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Live arms have trade value, it's really as simple as that dude

YOu know that but you’re letting your irrational hatred of Volquez get in the way.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 20, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

A pitcher can learn command, a pitcher can’t learn how to throw 97.

I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.

by Yossarian22 on Sep 20, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

So how long do we wait for Volquez to learn command?

or do we sell low on him, and hope that we package him a slew of other players and then collectively kick ourselves when he learns it while pitching for another team?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 20, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO, the ship has sailed on Volquez being a project as a live arm

he had raw talent, and he didn’t realize that talent

that’s my stance

I hate Arroyo more than Volquez, FWIW, and on some level and I can wrap my head around why we traded Hobbs at the time, but Volquez hasn’t panned out for us, and I really don’t anticipate us getting much if we tried to flip him for something now

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 20, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a 96/82 fastball/changeup combo, that's enough to get someone to bite

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

you need to get it over the plate and hitters to miss it for it to fucking matter

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 18, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to have trade value, you don't

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Reds got Griffey for Masset at one point.

And when Masset got traded, he was all stuff no results.

Tequila and pancakes, anyone?

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Sep 18, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a no value for no value trade

we took something worthless from them, they took something worthless from us

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Sep 19, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zero trade value?

So long as he is with this pitching staff and this coaching staff, I’d agree he has zero trade value.

Bloggers don't play nothing. They just it back and hold court and criticize.

by johnu1 on Sep 18, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally

Cueto has no trade value either.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Sep 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Matt Maloney is 27 years old and has yet to secure an MLB job in any capacity.

But yeah, I’m sure coaching is the issue.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Sep 18, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, Cueto, Leake, Bailey, Cordero, Masset, Ondrusek, Bray, Willis...

they all sucked worse than ever this year right? Bryan Price just isn’t getting any results.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Sep 18, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find it amusing

That this hard-core crew of self-appointed baseball experts continues to look for new and creative ways to group-ridicule what’s obvious to everyone who watches baseball. I hear men who PLAYED the game comment on this.

Yet, here at Red Reporter, by god, we’re gonna continue to disagree because group ridicule is considered a positive trait. Never mind that the argument is about the coach, but this intellectual juggernaut believes that it must be something else.

Maybe it’s the gas from the chili you all eat.

But you’ll all gather in a corner and snicker for some new ways to ridicule the notion that the pitching coach is clueless, his bullpen coach is as bad and the hitting coach has a team that gets 13 hits in 3 games at home against … wow, league aces!

Frankly, I don’t much give a fuck anymore. I come on here every so often to see how creative you can all be in group-think … it CAN’T be the coach’s fault.

It’s probably the manager’s fault, but I won’t play the race card if you don’t.

Have an ice winter.

Bloggers don't play nothing. They just it back and hold court and criticize.

by johnu1 on Sep 18, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I made a mistake in unbanning you

It won’t happen again. See ya later asshole.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That might've been the most impressive rant yet

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Sep 19, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not sure why you visit here.

But I now know why you can’t.

"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 27, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

matt maloney is a goddamn all star in the making

you’ll see

I break the backs of young children by shattering their dreams.

by Yossarian22 on Sep 19, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

NFL/Emmy thread is up

Right here.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I really don't see how Bob and Walt can keep Dustwadfuckpants for another season.

2 hits
2 walks
1 run
Maloney?

Christ on a hubacap

Kevin Youkilis: If I were to go anywhere, I would want to go to Cincinnati .

by Madville on Sep 18, 2011 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Cards won

They’re 3.5 games back in the WC.

Rays 2 games back of Boston.

Crazy wild cards this year.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's possible

I really thought the wild cards were sewn up. They weren’t.

Now I’m wondering if the Reds could have gotten one.

A study came out last week saying that confidence, even if unfounded, makes people more successful. We laughed at the Cards, who still thought they had a shot. No way would they catch the Brewers. Maybe not, but they might catch the Braves. Seems like they just expect to win every year, and so don’t give up.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 18, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not surprising the Cards are winning games, but the Braves crumbling is. Maybe it shouldn’t be. I can’t believe how much they used their rookies in the bullpen and their top prospects aren’t all that.

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Sep 19, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think confidence must have something to do with it

and this franchise has internalized a negative self-image and losing.

by Red_Poodle on Sep 19, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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