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Red Reposter/Retweeter - Lou Gehrig: Still clutch

"Brrrrmmmmmm brmmm brmmmm brrrrrmmmm RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR brrrrmmmmm brrrrrmmmmmmm!!"

  • The Fay seems to be jumping out of socks with excitement over how well Brandon Phillips has done out of the lead-off spot
    "There’s a fairly sure-fire solution to the Reds’ seemingly endless quest for a leadoff hitter. It would cost only $12 million for 2012, and the guy is a pretty good defender to boot. All the club has to do is exercise its option on Brandon Phillips and write his name at the top of the lineup card in permanent ink."

    He cites BeeP's .474 OBP since moving to the lead-off spot last week as proof that the team's long and mostly fruitless search for a table setter is over. I wouldn't go that far just yet. Sure, he's on fire right now, but that doesn't change the fact that his career OBP is just .319. To his credit, Phillips says he's feels more like himself when hitting lead-off, and is not particularly fond of hitting clean-up. I don't mind him leading off, but I'm not willing to go so far as to say he's the perfect solution.

    So yeah, it's folly to make any decisions based on 35 ABs. But it's still probably a good idea to exercise his option for next year at $12 mil. He's still a solidly above average player and there is little reason to think he won't be worth it for next year. The bigger question in my mind is whether or not to try to sign him beyond next year. The Reds have Henry Rodriguez hitting well in AA right now, and he looks like he might be major-league ready in 2013. That's good insurance, just in case a deal with Phillips doesn't happen.

  • Doug Gray at RedsMinorLeagues has some video from his trip to Carolina to see the Mudcats
    This is a compilation of ABs from the aforementioned Hank-Rod. Take a look at the video and check out his swing. What do you think? Is this guy the future at 2B for the Reds?

  • Jerry Dowling and Mike Shannon
    two authors known for their work on Reds-related topics, will be signing autographs at the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum before the games this weekend. Dowling was a cartoonist for the Enquirer, and will be signing collections of his work on Pete Rose and the Big Red Machine. Shannon and illustrator Scott Hannig wrote a graphic novel about Reds' great Fred Hutchinson.

  • Scientists have discovered the cause of Lou Gehrig's Disease
    Apparently there is a particular protein that is common among all who suffer from the disease. This is a big deal, because knowing what causes it is half the battle to finding a cure. This may be only tangentially related to baseball, but it's still definitely something to keep an eye on moving forward.

    TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET:

  • @DSzymborski:
    I appreciate Wily Mo Pena's valiant effort to end the season with some crazy 150/150/600 line.
    As frustrating as it was having Wily Mo Pena on this team (did you know that was like six years ago?  Sheesh), he was and still is an endlessly fascinating baseball player.  I'd openly love it if Juan Francisco turns into a productive major leaguer for the Reds, but I'd secretly love it more if he put up a Pena-esque line like the one above.

  • @johnfayman:
    We're underway. I say the crowd is between 100 and 200. #reds
    Is anyone else worried that a shiny new ballpark in Miami is really to going to fix the Marlins' attendance problems?

  • @Manny_Navarro:
    Yonder Alonso said entire #Reds bench flashed The U to him when he got back to the bench after his HR Tuesday #UM
    If only O-Cab were on this team, then the dugout wouldn't be lifeless and disengaged.  /shrugs

  • @Sullivan_Smith:
    People who refer to your town by its area code, please stop that. It's dumb.
    @the614 tweets that you can #suckit.

  • @joe_sheehan:
    Will the Mets really play their Sat. game if MTA shuts down? As is, they're an underdog to finish it (4 pm). FOX should cut it loose.
    Find yourself a safe place, east coasters.  A hard rain's a-gonna fall.

  • @nycredsfan:
    @themusketeer @jch24 That is awesome. @CharlieScrabbles is the best.
    Ahhh, gee fellas.  I think you're the best, too!

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Wait, are you actually on the twitterz or just using the @RedReporter account?

Oh, and you are pretty allsome.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Nope, I'm not on the twitters

RijoSabes was indisposed this morning so he gave me the keys to the RR account. I could only take it to school and back, and I couldn’t go over 30 mph, but it was totally worth it.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe that, for all my witty and incisive tweets,

That one got me on the retweeter

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 11:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

twitter moped

30 chars or less

A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character

by supergrover on Aug 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was my first time compiling the tweets myself

and I have to say, it’s painfully difficult. I’m thinking of ways make it easier and better, but this first time did not go nearly as well as I thought it would. Respect to RijoSabes for doin’ what he do.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of never making the retweeter

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 26, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you need to suck up to the mods more!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the best tweets ever

Also, I just started following the Iron Sheik a few days ago….I’m sad at all of the stuff I’ve missed previously.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

"hulk hogan is the jew faggot" "Mario Lopez is the gay"

“vince mcmahon is good man, he give me the green medicine”
“Gay Leno is jabroni, i fuck his ass and make him humble”

yes, it’s that iron sheik

by 'tHan on Aug 26, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is so full of awesome that I'm kicking myself for not following him sooner

That and the Cyborg Tommy Hanson are my favorites right now.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds and Marlins played a doubleheader Wednesday so the Reds could get out of town ahead of Irene

Last night was reportedly one of the most lovely evenings one could imagine in South Florida. Something about best laid plans.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Aug 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He's probably Dave's younger brother

There was something in the air that night, the stars were bright, Arredondo. They were shining there for you and me, for liberty, Arredondo.

by DTFH91 on Aug 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

After watching the Hank Rod video....a couple of thoughts.

He’s hitchy as hell. There are a lot of working parts to that swing on the left side, which tells me two things. 1) He’s likely to be streaky 2) No way in hell he’s close to Major League ready.
His stride/leg kick seems to vary quite a bit from high knee to almost minor stride. I assume that’s based on the count, but not sure. Again, don’t like it.
He dips his back shoulder just a bit, which makes him susceptible to all sorts of woes from strikeouts to popups. And don’t even get me started with all of that bunting bullshit.
Oh, and he runs funny too.
Conclusion: Cozart at short, Hamilton at second in 13 or 14 and Hank Rod to Japan.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

He looks a lot better from the right side. I'm not sure when he became a switch hitter, but the LH side is really inconsistent

I didn’t see the back shoulder dipping much. That might be something my eye isn’t trained enough to see, but it doesn’t worry me.

I really think all he needs is to quiet his swing a bit from the left side. He’s only 21 (1 year older than Hamilton) so it’s not like there isn’t room for growth there.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not change things till somebody starts getting him out

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Aug 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree.

Change/refine things now so they become like wrote by the time he’s ready for the bigs. Otherwise, the major league staff will have to do it, and they will be loathe to do so.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

In re: BeeP's OBP:

It’s .328 as a Red. Which is still lower than you’d like in a leadoff hitter, but also probably similar to anything gotten out of Stubbs, Heisey, Sappelt, or any other in-house option. No, not you, Ryan Hanigan. Put your hand down.

Not only that, but it went from a low of .312 in 2008 to .329, .332, and now sitting at .340. I think that as he’s aged, he’s gotten better. At the same time, this is his age 30 season and he’ll be hitting the downslope soon. I wouldn’t be averse to having him as leadoff next year. But not long after that, if at all.

When he started as a Red, he crushed lefties and hit for power. Now his power stroke is gone and he’s much more average between platoons.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I agree with this. Also,

I kinda hope the organization considers him the long-term solution at leadoff, if for no other reason than it will end the long, pointless, red-herring search for a leadoff hitter that has been going on since 2008 or so.

Stubbs could do it. BP could do it. Both would be fine. What I’m tired/afraid of is Walt signing Taveras/CoPat/Lewis etc in the next vain attempt to get a “prototypical” leadoff guy.

Just stick BP there and focus on finding a good hitter for LF. (Not Michael Bourn!!)

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, by "long-term" I kinda meant "next year". But since you asked

I’m coming around to the idea that terrified me in April: Doing a Rolen/Arroyo type deal with BP where he makes less than 12 million next year in return for a 3 year extension, through the 2014 season.

If he’d do something like 10/year with some deferred, I’d say there’s a very good chance he’ll be worth that contract. And since he seems to love it here so much, there’s at least a non-zero chance he’d accept that. I’m just worried that Uggla’s contract will ruin things. And if BP gets anything like Uggla’s contract it’ll be a huge mistake.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially if he puts up Dan Uggla numbers

I wouldn’t extend him past the option this winter, myself. I’d like to see how he begins to age before committing more money than necessary, especially with a few 2b prospects coming up.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the thing. The only 2B prospect remotely close to contributing is Rodriguez

and it’s questionable whether he’ll be ready to start 2013. My fear is that if they wait until next offseason, they’ll have to do another 3 years at that point, and for more money.

it’s not ideal to extend him right now, but it’s probably the lowest-risk thing they can do. There is a chance he’ll fall off a cliff, but there’s an equal or greater chance that Rodriguez won’t be ready in 2013 and they’ll have to go spend on some sucky stop-gap for a year or two.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

It’s not like there’s a bunch of OPS+=140 2Bs laying around out there.

If you could lock BP down for a few years at a reasonable price, you should. Decent-to-good production, good defense, fan favorite to fill the seats. You’d keep Walt and Dusty from obsessing about it.

When he’s 32, you thank him and send him on his way. Of course, after winning 3 WS in a row, he’ll probably re-up in a utility role for low dollars just to stay with the team, which would also be worth it.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Aug 27, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

but

BP will be 31 next year. Signing him until he’s 32 is a pretty short-term deal, and I’m not sure he’d go for it.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 27, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

you really think his power stroke is gone?

I think that 30-30 year of his was an outlier, and he’s been pretty consistent aside from that.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

SLG has gone from .480 in the 30-30 year

to .442, .447, .430, and now .428.

Perhaps “disappearing” is the wrong word, as his average has gone up; maybe he’s just changing his plate approach. Doubles have been consistent, but homers have dropped.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope this is what it is

He was never a “true” power hitter, and I always felt like he thought he was. If he’s OK with being a 15-20 HR guy (or even 10-15) but uses his contact skills to get on base, that’s the kind of skill that he should be able to maintain for the next 3 seasons.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's made some positive adjustments over the past two years

He doesn’t look to be upper-cutting as much. This has depressed his HRs, but it’s also led to a better contact rate and BABIP. His “in play” percentage is now 79, versus 74 in his 30/30 heyday. I doubt we’ll see another 20 HR season, but I’m more than happy with a better OBP and 15 HRs plus 30+ doubles/triples.

I’d add to your point about OBP that the league average has gone down 18 points since ‘07, so while he was a bit below average a few years ago, he’s now a bit above average now (.340 this year versus .319 league average). He’s even slightly above the league average for leadoff hitters (.331). We could do (and certainly have done) much worse for a leadoff hitter.

I also think there’s a side benefit of reigning him in on the basepaths when he leads off, ‘cuz he knows he shouldn’t do something stupid with Joey up or on deck.

by ken on Aug 26, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha has reigned (reined? rained?) it in, though

only 17 attempts this year, far less than before.

He used to be a polarizing figure, but it certainly seems like he’s focused on his strenghtes and tried to minimize his weaknesses. After pouring over his BBRef page for this conversation, I’m finding really little do dislike about him.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

rein

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rainn

Molecular gastronomy can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Aug 26, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

o'er me

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Aug 26, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Large picture is large

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 26, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

je ne regrette?

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you do, clean it up afterward

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like he still makes too many bone-headed mistakes

Too many pick-offs and CS. But I agree, he can make it reign from the leadoff spot.

by ken on Aug 26, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe the 30-30 year was just a fluke?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 26, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ALS thing is interesting

Earlier this year, there was a study that claimed some ALS patients – Gehrig likely among them – didn’t really have ALS, but a similar disease caused by repeated head trauma.

This new finding suggests it really is the same disease, but you can it different ways.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

IMO, the most predictable event of the coming offseason

will be when the Reds sign BP to a contract extension which keeps him 3 more years, but pays him less than $12M in 2012.

by riverfront76 on Aug 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I kind of agree. And like I said above, as long as he makes less than $12 each of the next 2 seasons beyond that

I’ll probably be cool with it. He’ll only be 31-33 during the contract. This isn’t Rolen/Arroyo type aging we’re talking about.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This hurricane thing sounds fun.

Find some high ground a few cases of beer.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm kinda tempted to grab my camera and head down to the shore

But I suspect that, like running on Jay Bruce’s arm, it’s just Not A Good Idea.

NYC is shutting down the transit system for the weekend. Subways, buses, commuter rail, the works. Probably won’t get it back up by Monday morning.

And the Mets games have been canceled. So have the Dave Mathews concerts on Governors Island.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everything has been cancelled.

The city had issued over 300 permits for outdoor activities this weekend (street fairs, etc.) and Bloomberg signed an executive order rescinding all of them. It’s gonna be weird here this weekend.

We’ve got 7 gallons of water and lots of food. Now I just gotta figure out where the hell to put my car.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have a little Prius, right?

Just take it up the stairs and park it next to your rooftop pool.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lol'd

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

close, a MINI

I’mma try to find a 2nd or 3rd floor spot in a garage around here. But damn, that’s gonna be expensive.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's gonna be

weird here like any other city this weekend.

by ken on Aug 26, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 gallons of water? Who in the world drinks water?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all stocked up with enough alcohol to last the weekend

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, we'll have that too. Only thing in the fridge right now is beer.

My father in law made a good point that not only do you need non-perishables to eat, you should get rid of perishables in your fridge. I had forgot that the streets of New Orleans were lined with fridges after Katrina because people couldn’t get the rotten food smell out of them.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping Irene isn't going to be too bad

Cause I haven’t really done any emergency planning

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm only really concerned about Pepco

We’d lose power in a stiff breeze, so bank on being without it for awhile.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 26, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my only consolation

Most of our power lines are below ground in the city, so I’m cautiously hopeful that we’ll at least have power, or not lose it for long.

I do fully expect to go to my first day of school on Wednesday, though, to a school with no power.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No power outage hopefully in Arlington

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap, it makes even less sense cause I was referring to Arlington, IL

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the power guys

are preparing for massive overtime.

There’s some concern that they’ll have trouble getting parts, because there’ll be so much demand.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 26, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd keep it and throw it at the looters

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, we got enough food. My question is: do we have enough beer?

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by bbjones on Aug 27, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Things are getting canceled like crazy here, too.

I suddenly have the weekend off, which is a pleasant surprise.

by the finest muffins on Aug 26, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Earthquake...hurricane...

Ya know how they tell you what to do when there’s an earthquake? Well, by the time I figured out that it was an earthquake, it was over. Guess I shoulda stood in a doorway.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Aug 26, 2011 12:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Any y'all hear of The Art of Fielding?

It’s supposed to be the Next Big Baseball Book.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

The Jonny Gomes biography?

We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.

by chesirecat on Aug 26, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but all the "art"

is just paper mache and crayons.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Aug 26, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

knowing is half the battle

the other half is red lasers and blue lasers.

by Heeringa on Aug 26, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, Dizzy

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo, joe!

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Aug 27, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ALS common protein

I’m not in research, but isn’t a common protein a rather easy find? I realize the data is not as straight-forward as numbers in excel, but couldn’t you map all the protein strains of everyone with ALS and then find commonalities? Or is it not that easy?

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

interesting (also, my head hurts; Im gonna stick to finance)

But the mutated protein is still only a symptom, as we don’t know what causes the protein to mutuate. Correct?

Just lost an uncle to ALS last year so this is close to my heart right now..

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not my area, so I don't know all the details

It is a symptom, but because of the function of this protein normally, it is likely also contributing to the disease phenotype. This protein normally helps the cell degrade other proteins that are messed up or worn out (real scientific terminology here). When this ubiquilin-2 isn’t working normally, then the other messed up proteins accumulate. As it turns out, the protein that is supposed to help take out the trash, becomes a part of that growing trash pile.

You then throw in the genetic evidence.. you have this gene mutated in families that suffer from the disease. Its pretty strong evidence that this mutated gene is somehow responsible for the symptoms.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Aug 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks. Now explain this to me like I'm five.

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

A key may be in order

You = ubiquilin-2 protein
Garbage = unwanted proteins in cells
House = neuron
Town = ALS patient

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Aug 26, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

so masturbation causes ALS???

uh oh..

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...wonder who claimed him

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My assumption is

A team like the Rockies or the Pirates won the claim and did it just to block someone else from getting him. They knew the Reds wouldn’t just let him go for nothing, so it was worth it for them to block.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Hernandez accepts arb or the Reds don't even bother to offer

This will be the biggest personal gaffe of the season, IMO

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't think they'll offer

But if they pulled Ramon back here, that’s encouraging.

by ken on Aug 26, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to offer arb

Even if he accepts and they end up paying him $4-5 mil next year, he’s still very tradeable at that price.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Mesoraco rots in Louisville next season

heads need to roll

We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.

by chesirecat on Aug 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I seriously doubt that will happen

Worse-case scenario is that Monie accepts arb. In that event, both he and Hanigan are very tradeable. Meso will be in the Cincy and he will be good.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

and that’s what I’m most afraid of. I agree with RedinWrigleyville that if they don’t handle this properly it will be a big problem.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My prediction is still that they won't offer

My guess is that they put him through as a matter of course, or the put him through with a specific team in mind to trade him to (Giants). When that team didn’t get the claim, they immediately pulled him back.

And they won’t offer arb because they suck.

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should offer him Arb.

I’m sure if the result sucks we can trade him for a can of beans if we have to.

Of course, then again, I thought we’d be able to trade Arroyo for a can of beans too. I don’t think we’d have many takers right now.

by MatthewH on Aug 26, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

slyde says that even if he accepts arbitration

the reds can release him & he’s only owed 25% of the amount he was awarded through arbitration.

they might take the risk that if he accepts & they can’t trade him they could just release him

by 'tHan on Aug 26, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow... did not realize that caveat existed.

What about the team we trade Ramon to? Do they have the ability to dump Ramon if he his underperforming?

by Nasty N8 on Aug 26, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think once the seasons starts the team can't do it anymore

Although maybe that’s not true. That rule is super dumb anyway, so who knows.

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by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like it would work out in the Reds favor here...

Let’s say there’s a 50-50 chance that Ramon agrees to arbitration. So, that makes it a 50-50 chance that the Reds get 1 first round compensatory draft pick.

If Ramon does accept arbitration, what’s he figure to make? $4 million? So, the Reds would then have a sunk cost of $1 mill on Ramon. I would imagine they would then be willing to eat that $1 million in a trade with any team, so long as they can get either an MLB-ready reliever or a B-level prospect in return… what’s everybody think?

by Nasty N8 on Aug 26, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, easily.

Given his production the last 2 years and current FA contracts, I’d say 8-10 million would be reasonable.

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by nycredsfan on Aug 26, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way

He made $3mil this year. $4-5 mil next year would be a 25-50% raise, which would be perfectly reasonable.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

but I think you are forgetting that he will have ~600 PAs over the past two years when/if an arb hearing is had. He’s a part-time player, and he’ll be compensated like one.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the value of 1 WAR unit?

Plus, he’s a 36 year-old platoon catcher… I guess I just don’t follow…

by Nasty N8 on Aug 26, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

*personnel

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't quite understand what the reasoning is for how the arbitration works...

So, the Club offers player X and Player asks for Y… with market-value likely falling somewhere between. If player accepts arbitration, the Club is risks paying market-value or more for a player, but if a player declines, they get a compensatory pick, which is worth a decent amount. Any chance that Banana Bob gives Ramon and his whole family a life-time supply of bananas to decline arbitration?

Also, how often do veteran free agent players accept arbitration… most of the examples I found online were players that were still under team control.
-Does the arbitration process usually favor the player or the club?
-Are they pretty consistent at splitting the difference or will the do wacky stuff to scare players and clubs into not going to arbitration?

by Nasty N8 on Aug 26, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are supposedly understandings where the player declines arbitration

But I think most of the time the team and the player are making a calculated risk. Sometimes the team gets burned by a guy accepting arbitration, which is what the Reds are afraid of with Ramon (and last year with Rhodes). Several years ago Placido Polanco surprised the Phillies by accepting, which kept Chase Utley down in the minors for another year.

Most guys with 6+ years of service time decline arbitration because they can get a multi-year deal on the open market. But for a lot of guys it might make sense to accept, particularly if they are older or a more marginal talent.

Last I saw the teams have won a majority of arbitration hearings. But the vast majority of cases settle, especially lately. Usually there are just a handful of hearings each winter. Especially for a smaller case, the attorney and arbitrator fees eat into the difference between the offers, making settlement more sensible.

by ken on Aug 26, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Live every week like it's shark week. And dress everyday like you're gonna get murdered in those clothes." - Tracey Jordan

by RedinWrigleyville on Aug 26, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lineup w/ Flewis

Phillips 2b, Lewis lf, Votto 1b, Bruce rf, Hernandez c, Stubbs cf, Frazier 3b, Janish ss, Willis p

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

God fucking dammit

I hate Fred Lewis

Cingrani for 2012 Closer!

by OGC Reds on Aug 26, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like I'll be heading down to the game tonight, yay!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

That won't be ebough to bail me out of jail

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me

they won’t put you in jail for that

Cingrani for 2012 Closer!

by OGC Reds on Aug 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 26, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That cracked me right the hell up

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Aug 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Reds 6 Natinals 5, walkoff style

Since I won’t be in the game thread.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 26, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Reds 5

Nationals 4

I won’t be there either, going to see the Bats play. Only 4 home games left after this homestand! I wish Alonso was in AAA so I could see him. Also, that way he would actually be playing too.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Aug 26, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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