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Florida Marlins Series Preview

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The Reds head to Miami today to take on the Marlins.  The Marlins have had a tough go of it this year.  While it's hard to think they can feel too disappointed given their opening day payroll of just $58 million, I think a lot of folks expected the Marlins to be in the 85-game range...not unlike the Reds.  But they've really struggled this season, and are currently 25 games behind the Phillies in the NL East.

If there's one area where the Marlins are reasonably good, it's their bullpen.  The Reds have gotten equivalent results, but the Marlin's peripheral numbers are better, which means they are more likely to continue having that success moving forward.  But their rotation has struggled horrifically, their offense has not been good, and by most measures, their fielding has been below-average as well.  On top of that, Hanley Ramirez is hurt.  And Logan Morrison, one of their better players, was recently sent down--as best as I can tell--for a combination of too much twittering plus failing to appear at some meet and greet.  Or something.  It's sort of a mess in Florida right now.

Sun Life Stadium Park Factors

via statcorner.com

wOBA (LHB/RHB): 100/101
HR: 99/95

Overall, it's pretty close to a neutral park.  Slight negative effect on home runs to righties, but that's countered by more singles, doubles, and especially triples.

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Position Players

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So there's Mike Stanton, who has the best raw power of pretty much anyone in professional baseball, plus the skills to use it.  And there's Gaby Sanchez, who is sort of a second-tier first baseman who has struggled after a really nice start to the season.  And then, there's not much else.  Emilio Bonifacio quite possibly has the least power in all of baseball, and is somehow enjoying league average hitting this year (I think he's massively over-achieving).  He's currently filling in for the injured Hanley Ramirez.

Bryan Peterson, the rookie, is enjoying some playing time with Logan Morrison being demoted to AAA.  He's a former mid-tier prospect who had a horrific year last year in AAA (.255/.332/.354), but followed with a superb year this year (.351/.434/.569 in 286 PA's) while repeating the level.  He's 25, so maybe he figured something out.  But I think he's more of a #3/#4 outfielder than something special.

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Probable Starters

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With Ricky Nolasco and Chris Volstad, you have two of the more frustrating pitchers in baseball.  At least for their fans.  Their peripheral numbers all look pretty darn good.  Respectable K's, better-than-average walk rate (especially Nolasco), and good to great ground ball rate (especially Volstad).  And yet both have ERAs that are far above their SIERAs or xFIPs.  Part of this, I think, is likely to be the Marlin's bad fielding.  And part of it is probably just bad luck.  With Volstad, however...a two run gap between ERA and SIERA/xFIP is enormous, and you have to wonder if something else is going on.  In the 540 innings of his career, his ERA is a half-run worse than his xFIP, so I think at least some of that is predictive.  But not by two runs.  He's a decent pitcher, and can win a ballgame.

Really, Vazquez looks pretty similar, though his fly ball rate is bad enough that it's hard to see him having a lot of success.  Vazquez is a great example of how pitchers can just break.  Overnight, going from Atlanta to New York, he lost more than 2 mph off his fastball.  His velocity is up 1 mph over last year, but he's not the pitcher he used to be.

As far as match-ups go, the Reds look pretty even with the Marlins in games 1 & 2 (if you believe ERAs then the Reds should be heavily favored in game 1).  Game three might lean more towards the Marlins (though again, if you believe ERA, then Bailey should be heavily favored).

Bullpens

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These look like pretty evenly matched bullpens.  The Marlins have a solid, but not outstanding, group of relievers to work with here.  Leo Nunez isn't my favorite closer in the world, but he strikes guys out and keeps the walks down, which is about all you can ask.  Mike Dunn and Ed Mujica form a decent setup combination, with Dunn the primary weapon against the Reds' Jay Bruce and Joy Votto in later innings.  I'm also interested in this guy Steve Cishek, who looks very impressive: 9+ k/9, <3 bb/9, 50+% ground balls?  That's what I'm talking about.  His minor league numbers are sort of all over the place, though, so I don't know if this is likely to continue.

It's a series the Reds can win, which would make two straight winning series.  Go Reds!

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Might be tough to get the game in tonight

Lots of rain coming as Hurricane Irene approaches Florida.

by ken on Aug 23, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Tonight should be fine.

Tomorrow could be tricky, and Thursday will almost certainly be affected.

I know, I know. Go away……earthquake!!!

It feels so nice to be back to normal

by nycredsfan on Aug 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This lineup is a bit scary

Phillips 4
Sappelt 7
Bruce 9
Cairo 5
Alonso 3
Stubbs 8
Hernandez 2
Janish 6
Cueto 1

Sheldon thinks Votto is getting a rest, but it seems a strange time to give him that rest. Maybe Dusty wants to maximize it by two off days in a row? Sheldon also notes that Votto is 3-13 against Nolasco.

Anyway, Sheldon has Votto’s numbers since his last rest: .356 (32-for-90, with 9 HR, 21 RBIs). I claimed, before the Orioles series started, that if Votto had a day off he would hit around 370 with 12 doubles and 5 home runs over the 30 days following the rest. I underestimated what he could do obviously

by Red_Poodle on Aug 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Votto probably deserves, it and it gets Alonso on the field.

I’d say it is a win-win. The only thing i hate is Cairo batting 4th. Push Alonso to cleanup, Hernandez to 5, and Cairo to 7.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 23, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bottom of your lineup would a black hole

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And??

Isn’t that what the bottom of the lineup is?

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 23, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not how it's constructed now

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Aug 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he deserves it

he has played a ton of games, I just hope there isn’t some nagging injury or something like that.

by Red_Poodle on Aug 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Cairo deserves the playing time.

I just don’t think that means he should be hitting 4th.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Deserve" has nothing to do with it

Frazier should be starting today. These next five weeks are all about next year.

by ken on Aug 23, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Frazier should be starting.

But, I’m not going to hate on Cairo for getting the start.

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 23, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

get off my lawn

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Aug 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

GIVE ME BACK MY SON!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

x

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a little mel gibson thrown in

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

A dash of crazy

for you cooking fans

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

You had me at meat tornado. ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Aug 23, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give it to me baby!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I asked Slyde on twitter what the lowest OPS+ since Cairo was for a Reds cleanup hitter

I got two responses, both to be filed in the “Shit could be a LOT worse” file:

“you mean career OPS+? Cuz Miggy’s at 103 this year. Andy Phillips (Career OPS+ of 75) batted 4th three times in 2008”

and

“Brandon Larson, career OPS+ of 49, batted 4th three times in 2003. His OPS+ that season was -2.”

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhhh

BeeP’s career OPS+ is 94.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had the same mistake you did the first look

but that’s Andy Phillips up there

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Aug 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I saw Andy

I’m just pointing out that we need not look any further than the team’s de facto clean up guy for the last few years if we are looking for a guy worse than Miggy.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

/'credsEdgardLoveChild

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

BP’s OPS+ is lower than Miggy’s this year, but not over their careers. Should have made that distinction, sorry.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take that up with Joel, I'm just repeating what he said

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The anatomy of the conversation

Me – “@jluckhaupt lowest OPS+ for a reds cleanup hitter since ????”

’creds – “@jch24 @jluckhaupt Brandon Phillips, this year.”

Slyde – “@jch24 you mean career OPS+? Cuz Miggy’s at 103 this year. Andy Phillips (Career OPS+ of 75) batted 4th three times in 2008.”

Slyde – “@jch24 Brandon Larson, career OPS+ of 49, batted 4th three times in 2003. His OPS+ that season was -2.”

Me – Hahaha RT @jluckhaupt: @jch24 Brandon Larson, career OPS+ of 49, batted 4th three times in 2003. His OPS+ that season was -2.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty definitely gives guys a day off after an off day to maximize the effect

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Aug 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know he has done that with Rolen

so it makes me think everything is fine with Votto

by Red_Poodle on Aug 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is dusty's

play the guy in front of his home town crowd thing.

I’m just glad he’s putting Yonder at 1B. Would be scary to have him patrolling that huge outfield.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just an observation, JinAZ

but at the team level, it seems like FRAA is consistently giving a far different report than any of the other 3 defensive metrics.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Aug 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I've noticed, I'm not sure what to make of it.

Part of it is that I think FRAA has more regression built into it than other metrics, because it uses less precise (but also less biased) input data. It certainly tends to show lower extremes than UZR or DRS.

Part of it also may be that I’m compiling it myself by summing up players, and there are potentially huge rounding issues. They don’t provide team-level FRAA on their site. I might be abusing the statistic badly in trying to work around that.

Part of it also is that it is a newer metric than the others. I have a lot of respect for Colin Wyers, but it is the case that this stat is less tested than the others…though he would argue that the others aren’t well tested either, while his has error estimates that the others don’t have. It’s certainly seen less widespread use, and thus fewer eyeballs looking at it. And some of his other player value statistics, especially the pitching WARP,is pretty providing (I think) some pretty sketchy results.

I like the idea of FRAA, but it’s alarming how often it disagrees on individual players. It could be that this is happening because the others are subject to meaningful, systematic bias. But I dunno, maybe something else is wrong with it that we don’t know about. I really was hoping when Colin started working through WARP that I’d just be able to use his stuff instead of fWAR and rWAR because it addresses some known issues with those latter two pieces of data. But after working with it this year, I’m just not quite ready to do that.
-j

by JinAZ on Aug 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, you put a lot of work into a few baseball projects

just so other people can have more enjoyment. I’m not complaining, I am impressed!

You are really the only guy I’ve seen using FRAA, and I don’t know much about it. I like new stats and viewpoints, but this one I have to say I don’t particularly trust. Love the previews though.

expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat

by kcgard2 on Aug 23, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm using FRAA mostly because I got tired of getting yelled at by Colin and Mike Fast. :)

That, and they showed me that there is something to worry about with UZR & DRS. I do like my little FIP-BsR stat, though, and trust it about as much as the others at the team level.

I’ve been really scaling back my baseball stuff over the past month, and this little series is pretty much the only thing I do anymore. These things take about an hour to write, so they’re not too bad. The spreadsheet’s as close to completely automated as I can make it. It’s fun for me to do, and I’m glad you folks like it.
-j

by JinAZ on Aug 23, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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