Red Reposter - finding joy in a lost, Long Season
by ken on Aug 22, 2011 11:00 AM EDT
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Print- Reds win series; solve the mysteries of Pittsburgh
In what may prove critical in crowning the National League's Central Division bronze medalist, the Reds finally cracked the Pirates in taking two of three close games in Pittsburgh over the weekend. The Pirates went all-in by using closer Joel Hanrahan in each contest, even though they face the Brewers in a double-header today. It was the first road series win for the Reds since June. - Fay - No limits on Leake
After throwing six frames yesterday, Mike Leake matched last year's innings total of 138. The Reds don't see a need to hold back on Leake's workload, however. Dusty: "I don’t see fatigue like I saw last year. Last year, he didn’t know what to expect coming out of college. He actually looks like he’s getting stronger. He’s training. He knows how to train and prepare between starts. I call him the Running Man. Every time I see him he’s running. He eats healthier than anyone on the team. He takes care of himself. He knows how to pitch." - Heisey, Rent, Logan to return soon
The Reds start a series in Miami after an off-day today. Edgar Renteria and Logan Ondrusek could return by then, though only Logan is on the DL. The cheeky Chris Heisey might not be far behind either, if I'm reading this correctly: "[Saturday], I shagged fly balls at full speed and felt great."
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BP and Hanigan are rounding into form
Brandon Phillips has responded well to penciling himself in at the leadoff spot five games ago. He's now an even 11 for 22 with some pop from the top. Meanwhile, Ryan Hanigan has also found his stroke after slumping in July following a home plate collision with the Brewers' Nyjer Morgan. Sheldon reports that Hanigan's shoulder has been bothering him since then. I wonder if that played some role in the Reds' decision to hold on to Ramon Hernandez at the trade deadline. - St. Louis Today - Who are the Pujols 'critics'?
I'll just let the sarcasm of Cardinals' beat writer Bernie Miklasz speak for itself: Apologies are in order after reading comments by Albert Pujols and Tony La Russa during the team's 1-2 series in Pittsburgh. With the team trailing the Milwaukee Brewers by 7 games in the standings, I didn't realize we were supposed to organize a parade down Market Street to celebrate the occasion of Pujols hitting his 30th home run of the season. HT to Baseball Nation.
- Jim Brosnan - Nobody Likes The Dodgers (Aug. 1961)
And now, for the nostalgia portion of the Reposter. Brosnan, a Cincinnati native, pitched five very good seasons out of the bullpen for the Reds between 1959 and 1963. But as the author of Long Season and Pennant Race, his legacy runs much deeper than his actual on-field performance. In this August 1961 article for Sports Illustrated, Brosnan discusses the white-hot rivalry between the Reds and Dodgers: Dodger pitchers have used up a ball bag full of fast balls trying to pinpoint the skulls of Pinson and Robinson. This specious form of head-hunting is not cannibalistic, for the Dodgers are not really savages. "Just a little wild," says Don Drysdale. Ol' Don has a stock answer to charges that he deliberately knocks down hitters who don't respect him. But the cliche, "It's my bread and butter," reflects a somewhat morbid appetite.
The man could really write. Long Season is the better-known work and has been on my list for a while, but I read Pennant Race this year since I was in the mood to follow a team that won something. It was a fun, quick read. It's a shame the pre-Machine Reds didn't win any more pennants. They obviously had an interesting mix of personalities to go along with some incredible ball players. - C-ing Red takes a look at the best team comebacks
1964 was the closest that the Reds came to capturing a second pennant in the 1960s. That pennant race is known as the "Philadelphia Phold," seeing how the Phillies lost a 6.5-game lead with 12 to play to let St. Louis sneak by. The Reds played a prominent role in Philadelphia's collapse in beating the Phills 1-0 on September 21. Chico Ruiz famously stole home against Cincinnati native Art Mahaffey - with Frank Robinson at the plate, no less - to account for all the scoring. The Phillies dropped their next nine games as Manager Gene Mauch panicked, going with a three-man rotation down the stretch. Phillies' 1B Dick Allen said that Ruiz's steal was "the play broke our humps."
The Reds made up a seven-game deficit themselves that year entered the season's final game tied with St. Louis. But the Phillies exacted revenge in walloping the Reds 10-0. The Cards won their final game, and then defeated the aging Mantle/Maris/Ford Yankees in the World Series. - BB-Ref Blog - Walk-off losing hits
Sure, a walk-off hit is pretty exciting. But even more thrilling are games that end with the home team losing despite getting a hit in the final at-bat, because it necessarily involves an out on the basepaths. The Reds have been on the smiling side of three such games since 1990, most recently on August 30, 2007** against the Pirates. In 1992 the Reds won two such games, with Norm Charlton finishing on both occasions. Oddly, the "walk-off" hit in both games was struck by prominent former Reds - Kal Daniels and Eric Davis. Each made the final out by trying to advance to second.
** BP ended this game with an incredible throw to home from shallow right field. It's in my top ten for Reds highlights of the past decade, maybe top five. - Topps, Donruss, and king-making
Jon Bois does the heavy lifting to determine which honor portended true greatness - Topps' All-Star Rookies or the Rated Rookies by Donruss. Topps eeks out a narrow victory in looking at both sets between 1987 and 1991. But since both companies missed out on Barry Larkin (and Frank Thomas), it's all a sham.
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I didn't know flies had balls.
A Ongreed the Deserving
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The following showed up in a GIS for "fly testicles"
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Ben Stiller got his ball stuck in his fly
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 22, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
now THAT is the proper usage of "eek"...
not “eke”.
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by supergrover on Aug 22, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Imagine there's a picture of John Lennon
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
General comments
glad there is no limit on Leake. Stretch him out another 30 innings at least, as long as he looks strong, and ready him for next year.
I’m really impressed with that walk-off loss list. Surprised none since 2008.
It must be amazing looking at a stat like that and seeing that all the wins are on the road. Stunning, actually.
A Ongreed the Deserving
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Every single image you posted is blocked in the school's wifi
I’m not really excited to look at this at home.
Whatever.
by Ram27 on Aug 22, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's mid August
What’re you doing in school?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
If the 22nd is still mid August
Then 45 is still early forties, right? Woo hoo!
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 22, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My school district is fucking stupid, that's what
We got out the second week of June and started Wednesday of last week.
Whatever.
by Ram27 on Aug 22, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We started Tuesday of last week.
But we got out on, like, May 30th.
I would imagine you guys get a ton of days off during the year if you stay that long and get out that late. I’d still rather have a long summer and only the major holidays off.
Miguel Cairo is so last week.
Yeah, we have fairly long breaks
To be fair, we had to stay until the second week because of some snow day makeup things. The superintendent of education of Indiana said some bullshit about how he wasn’t going to approve waivers for the time off, because “every child in Indiana deserves 180 days of school”, so we had to come in 3 extra days.
Whatever.
And basically screw around for those 3 days, correct?
Top-down educational decrees from people who were probably only teachers for a year or two are about the worst things ever.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Nope
They were added on to the end of the year, and we’re required to take finals on the final 4 or 5 days of the year, so…yeah.
Whatever.
Dude, that's even worse.
But I bet the middle and elementary schoolers were partying hard.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Probably not middle schoolers.
Most middle schools also have exams. Elementary schoolers for sure, though.
Miguel Cairo is so last week.
milk stands in the cafeteria!!!
whoa yeah
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
Not the kinds of exams that are strictly given at specific times of the year.
And if they do, they are likely earlier in the year.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
The McPaper
has a post about Jered Weaver’s deal, and how good starting pitchers are opting for security over the big bucks of free agency.
You want a decent starting pitcher? Better grow your own.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
If only we had a potential ace somewhere in the system...
/stillbeatingthehorse
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Aug 22, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brewers have been drafting a crazy number of pitchers or at least it seems to me. Makes sense in that quality pitching is the hardest thing to trade for. They also seem to take a bunch of catchers.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
Good post by Dave Cameron on Weaver
Weaver grew up near Anaheim and gets to play in a park suited to his strengths, with a good OF defense to boot.
I think its better to sign/trade for them
Potential disappoints too quickly. At least you know what proven talent gives you.
HomerBailey’d
by Jack Armstrong started an All Star Game on Aug 22, 2011 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Looks like we're going to see whether 'creds has to accept our lord Edgar Renteria as his personal savior or not after all
Through 66 PA, Edgar has a .795 OPS.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
how many more PAs does he need to qualify?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
nine more, gotta get to 75 PA and have a .730 OPS
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
is it even possible for him to drop that much with only nine more PA?
Or is this for whatever he does for the rest of the year?
If he’s above .730 at 75 PAs (possibly as soon as this week), but then falls off a cliff after that, does ’Creds still have to be nice to him?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
he doesnt have to be nice
He just has to be non-derogatory.
I don’t know why people don’t like a ss with an ops approaching 800!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Aug 22, 2011 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He doesn't need much more to guarantee it, but that's a really SSS
I know if he goes 0 for the next 9 he won’t end up at .730. I think when he hits a double and single tomorrow night, that will clinch it. :)
Here’s his original comment. I think that means he has to take up for Edgar any time someone says something bad.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
yes, it does
It also says “next 75 PAs.” So if Edgar never gets another hit after that, ’creds still has to defend him!
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Don't worry. I'm a man of my word and I'll make this worth everyone's while.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
TWSS
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
But, having said that
what constitutes as “daring to sully his good name and repute” is completely at my discretion. :-)
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I'm pretty sure I can find that line and hear it whoosh by as I cross it at 110mph
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Aug 22, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
careful what you wish for with that one....
he’s crafty, that jch
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 22, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
"PA" vs "AB"
Any walks, HBP, S, or SF in that “66” up there?
A Ongreed the Deserving
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Edgar is selfish!
/gotta get ’em in while I can.
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by nycredsfan on Aug 22, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Classes start today.
I’m an idiot. I scheduled myself to have 5 of them on Mondays.
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
how long are you stuck with that god awful avatar ... it burns my eyes every time i see it
Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.
No reason why,
but he should change it to truck nuts
A Ongreed the Deserving
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Why would he talk to a music major?
He’d just end up getting cooties.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 22, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
While you're there, ask them about band camp, they love to talk about band camp
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Yep. I never took fewer than 18 credits in any of my 8 semesters.
And that didn’t even include band camp!
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small sample size!
I didn’t have Friday classes after freshman year. I also didn’t have classes before 11am. Deans list final 7 quarters and I hit the bars 4x a week at the USA’s #1 party school (2011 Princeton Review)
xFlip!!!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Aug 22, 2011 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
i took the history of rock n roll!
And the history of baseball
College is all about making good decisions!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Aug 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At the DePaul University School of Music,
freshmen were required to take a minimum of 19 credit hours per semester. It was BRUTAL.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And at Full Sail we had 35 hours of in-class instruction per week, including labs.
Brain-damaging overload.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Full Sail, eh?
I’ve got a couple friends going there. In Florida, correct?
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
Right-o.
Rolling Stone called it one of the top 5 music schools in the country. Worked out great for me.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's supposed to be a good film school too, right?
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
It was an excellent immersion program for me.
Since they had all the recording engineering classes as part of the Film/Video program (except for Studio Design and MIDI, neither of which I cared about), I opted for the Film program. I was able to land an entry-level editing gig in Dayton immediately after graduation.
I still use all the music stuff I learned at DePaul, some of the pre-law stuff I learned in community college, and all the film/tv/recording engineering stuff I learned at Full Sail.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's very good for the types of music Rolling Stone cares about.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
hipster'd
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I just meant there are a lot of better schools for non-commercial music and jazz.
But for music business or recording technology, it’s fantastic.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I meant to call Rolling Stone hipsters.
comment fail*
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Blair School of Music!
Vandy FTW!
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 22, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the fuck majors in music?
That’s about as useless of a degree as there is.
Miguel Cairo is so last week.
I definitely should've been a business major. The world needs more of those.
Also, if you measure the “usefulness” of a degree on its relative ability to prepare you for a specific job, music education is about the most useful degree there is.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Learning to compose music on your parents' dime...
…while studying under aficionados. Or, in my case, study Recording Engineering as a Science Major within the School of Music.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
people who enjoy making/performing/studying/scoring/composing/researching/conducting/mixing/etc music
THE WORLD NEEDS LESS MUSIC!
It will get better.
Half of my friends are music majors.
(Okay, not really, but it’s a lot).
"Luna Lovegood is really freaking awesome in every way." -Me
how the fuck did you do that?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 23, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
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Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else.
gonna be at tomorrow's game
so if any of you are watching the game on tv and you see someone in the stands there is a very good chance it could be me
by theembalmer on Aug 22, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
It's all a part of the new Schwarzenegger-based nicknames for the pitching staff
Edinson gets Predator, even post-haircut. Cueto (start the reactor!) already has Total Recall for having a similar sounding name as the protagonist and his superlative muscle memory. Chapman is either the Terminator or Red Heat. Bill Bray is the Eraser for keeping his inherited baserunners from scoring. And Cordero, as the leader of a young bullpen, plays Kindergarten Cop.
by ken on Aug 22, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
If DRH were still around, he and Ondrusek could be Twins
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 22, 2011 4:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
If Dusty used DRH like he used Bray this year, we might have 3 quality lefties in our pen.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No.
DRH got his shot with Milwaukee and couldn’t get anyone out. I could probably hit a triple off of him.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I;m running the numbers now. But 2 games seems like an awful SSS.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember one outing. All his off-speed stuff was nowhere near the plate so the batters just looked at them. Then he threw his fastball over the middle of the plate. It was disappointing after watching him do pretty well I thought when he was with the Reds.
I would’ve thought he’d get another shot, but not so far.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
My numbers came out this way:
Using Bray’s 2011 splits of 54% of PA vs. lefties and extrapolating DRH’s stats over a 70-appearance output with Bray’s ratios of PA/G, I found that Danny Ray would allow an overall slash line of .287/.347/.402 for an OPSagainst of .749.
In 70 games, he would face lefties in 91 of 168 plate appearances to the tune of a slash line of .213/.278/.314 for an OPSAgainst of .592. Righties kill DRH, but only for average power. He extrapolates in this scenario to allowing 1 HR vs. LHB and 1 HR to RHB over a 70-game season in which he’d give up 42 hits in 148 ABs with a K:BB of 2.0.
Bray this season has allowed a 0.509 OPS against lefties and a 0.645 OPS against righties. DRH for his career has allowed a .584 OPS against lefties and a .933 OPS against righties, it seems pretty clear to me that Bray should be NOT be limited to a LOOGY role, whereas DRH would seem to be a good fit for that role. And we had him at league-minimum and under team control for years. He is only 26 years old.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
But DRH's OPS against in 2011 jumped to .728
Small sample size, but I think he was a one trick pony who hitters figured out in his second full season.
It will get better.
You can't reasonably cite a 2-game sample size as a counter-point.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well that's a whole nother basket of laundry.
Actually, that stat is a pretty reasonable counter-argument.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 29, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Drunky Ray was fucking garbage.
I can’t believe there are people who still think he was anything more than a half-assed gimmick.
all midgets are gimmicks
when will people learn?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 23, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Who is shouldn't be starting, Alex?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 24, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I kinda think "drunky" might be a compliment around these cyber-parts...
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 24, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Danny Ray
earned himself a 21.60 ERA and a 4.2 WHIP in a brief callup in Milwaukee.
He’s now kicking butt in Nashville.
I wonder if they’ll give him a ring if they win the WS this year.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I think they will.
Someone should at least phone him.
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 22, 2011 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
(stolen from a real-life team-only meeting where Bob Uecker said the line)
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 22, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we'd all prefer if he were
End of Days.
by the finest muffins on Aug 22, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
DatBPDude
"If you intended to debate this, you need to take a side." - johnu1
by PeteyHendrix on Aug 24, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Also liked the Reds talking about taking Johnny Roseboro out of the game
turns out Marichal was a secret agent the whole time:
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
nice pic
of Miggy breaking up the DP.
He did that on Friday, too.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Haven't we won at least two games this year on an opponent's hit?
One catching a guy lollygagging to third, the other a throwout by Stubbs at home?
Yeah, the play at 3B was recently
it was horrid horrid baserunning. It might have been the Astros.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Wasn't it Dexter Fowler?
Or another Rockie?
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Aug 22, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Color me late to the discussion
But wouldn’t last year’s win against the Cardinals count? Someone crushed the ball into the corner, guy tried to score from first and he was out at the plate. Those were happier times.
Stools are where once upon a time you'd find a chair. A chair's for fools! Everybody wants stools!
by ClownPenis.Fart on Aug 22, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This definition of "walk off" is a little confusing
But consider it the converse of the normal walk-off, when the home team gets a hit to plate the winning run. So, the home team gets the hit, but “walks off” because they made an out on the basepaths.
In the St. Louis game last year, the Cardinals were the road team and would have only tied the score if the runner was safe.
Ahhh ha!
I don’t get it.
Stools are where once upon a time you'd find a chair. A chair's for fools! Everybody wants stools!
by ClownPenis.Fart on Aug 22, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
just kidding—thanks for the ’splanation
Stools are where once upon a time you'd find a chair. A chair's for fools! Everybody wants stools!
by ClownPenis.Fart on Aug 22, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I just avoided the Votto to LF discussion
because I thought it was mostly invented by beat reporters and commentators (I didn’t see anyone here for example seriously suggesting a move). Anyway, I decided to read Sheldon’s column on the subject, and it aggravates me that Sheldon approached Votto saying that the fans want him to move to left. I really don’t think this is a common fan wish. Evidently in a perverse mood, he replied:
“If they’d like me to play the outfield, maybe I will play center or right,” Votto retorted.
Votto in CF? I’m pretty sure that would be a disaster.
i'd like him to be willing to do it if the Reds view it in their best interests
Chipper Jones spent 2002 and 2003 in left field because the Braves thought it was in their interest (of course they put Vinny Castilla with his OPS of .692 in Atlanta at third, which probably wasn’t in their best interest).
I would like to read every player say, I will play wherever the manager writes my name.
It will get better.
by Yossarian22 on Aug 22, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He sort of says that in there
When he explains that management never approached him at all about it.
What does irritate me a bit is when he says fans don’t really appreciate our good infield D. I don’t think that’s really true
by Red_Poodle on Aug 23, 2011 12:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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