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Red Reposter/Retweeter - Two diverging paths: Cozart and Volquez

If you didn't see Wolfgang scoring from 1st on the Monie single last night, you really need to check it out.

  • Dusty Baker, as expected, had some positive words for departed shortstop Paul Janish
    The big news yesterday, of course, was the supplanting of Janish with prospect Zack Cozart. Janish was handed the keys to the starting shortstop position out of Spring Training, with Edgar Renteria listed as the backup. Both, quite frankly, deserved the ol' heave-ho. But Renteria was retain, presumably to keep some depth. Here's what Dusty had to say about Janish:

    "Janish put quite a bit of pressure on himself and his confidence was waning some, so he needed to go down and — more than anything — get his confidence together. Confidence is a big part of this game," Baker said. "He's definitely a quality shortstop."

    Blah blah blah. Regardless of whether it was "confidence" or "weak wrists" or however you want to put it, he was given the opportunity and didn't capitalize on it. I'm sure we'll see him back in the bigs sometime because his glove is really that good, but I doubt he ever gets another shot as a starter. Which sounds about right. Good luck, Zack Cozart. May your tenure as Reds shortstop be a fruitful one.

  • Edinson Volquez was sent out to the minors yesterday along with Janish
    I was listening to Marty last night and he wondered aloud if we have seen the last of him in a Reds uniform. It struck me, because I haven't really thought about it in those terms. But after checking his numbers I'm beginning to wonder myself. Since his All-Star performance in '08, he's walked over 5 batters per 9 in a shade under 200 innings. Of course, he's also striking out over 9 per 9. Even so, it's incredibly difficult (as he has demonstrated) to be a success major league pitcher when giving up that many free passes.

    The one player I can think of that seems to be able to get away with it is Carlos Marmol. He walked 6 per 9 last year, but he also struck out 16 (yeah, six freakin' teen) per 9. Maybe they should look to move Volquez to the 'pen and see if he can fare better over short outings. Luckily, he did not sign that long-term extension the Reds offered this past winter, so the team is not on the hook for anything but his salary this year (which is very reasonable). But the fact remains that he is an incredibly talented hurler. I'd hate to see some other team harness that and come back to haunt us.

  • Mike Leake takes the hill tonight for the Reds against Brewers ace Zack Greinke
    Leake has been quietly excellent since returning from the minors, as he has started eight games and posted a 2.89 ERA with a 3.4/1 K/BB ratio over 53 innings. As much as we wring our hands over the state of the starting rotation, at least Leake and Johnny Cueto have been slicin' up eyeballs.

  • Mike Bauman of MLB.com says the Cozart call-up and Janish send-down "a bold move"
    I wouldn't call it exactly that. A "bold move" would be to bench struggling Scott Rolen or to trade Ramon Hernandez. Replacing a shortstop who many thought was a career back-up anyway isn't what I would call "bold". The only "bold" part of it is that they took so long to do it. Or perhaps that they didn't ditch Renteria instead. How many "phrases" can I frame with quotation marks in this here "stupid" clipping?

  • Bill Parker at ESPN's SweetSpot is optimistic about the Reds chances from here on out
    The Cozart/Volquez moves are steps in the right direction, he says, though some problems still remain. To wit:

    "So the Reds’ problems, after dealing with their shortstops and Volquez, seem to boil down to Arroyo, Wood and clutch hitting. The last bit can’t be dealt with; study has shown that "clutch," to the extent it exists, is impossible to separate from simple dumb luck, good or bad. Wood should be fine for essentially the same reason: He has really struggled with runners in scoring position, and unless the team has some reason to believe he has problems pitching out of the stretch or gets more rattled than most do with men on second or third, those numbers should get better. Arroyo on the other hand has been legitimately struggling for two months, and is a real worry; if they’re willing to recognize his huge contract as a sunk cost and move him to a long-relief role (or off the team entirely), and in favor of Sam LeCure (if healthy) a possible acquisition on the trade market, that could really improve the team going forward."

    None of us, I'm assuming, are laboring under the delusion that Arroyo is going anywhere. He's a notorious 2nd-half blazer anyway, so hopefully that trend continues and he lights it up in the late summer months. Wood is down in Louisville for the time being, so that is kind of a non-factor. And the clutch thing, as he says, is just what it is. I'm still really optimistic about this team going forward, but the frustration is definitely mounting. If they are going to make the playoffs, they have to start working towards that end and right soon.

Follow me after the jomp for some of the best #Reds tweets of the week:

Star-divide

  • Elise Lotz:
    I hate when I get to a point in the #Reds season where I hope for bad things to not happen rather than for good things TO happen.

    I understand the sentiment, but I don't think I'm quite there yet.  I'm still hoping for BroYo to make his classic 2nd-half surge and I'm still hoping Stubbs and Bruce get hot and carry the team through the end of the summer. 

  • Nick Lachey:
    Well, my #reds are laying a colossal egg right now. Time to get this thing turned around boys!! We got the talent, let's find the passion!!

    On a related note, Lachey's newest album titled "Let's Find the Passion" is scheduled to drop just in time for Christmas this year #Guerrillamarketing

  • TitanicStruggle:
    After the Jay HR ties it up,"It is an active Cardinal dugout & it looks like a wake in the #reds dugout." Marty sounds apoplectic at this point.

    I think we were all apoplectic at that point.  Now let's never speak of it again.

  • Dontrelle Willis:
    Come to park and see Cozart's locker empty and i was juiced!!! Congrads to Zach and the Cozart family.#reds#flocka

    He seems like such a swell guy, yeah?  Congrads to Dontrelle himself, as he'll likely be starting for the Reds on Sunday.

  • ctrent:
    #Reds 2B @DatDudeBP is No. 3 on the @CBSSports 140 of Must-Follow Sports Personalities. Behind @shaq and @ochocinco.

    Funny thing, I saw Shaq singing "Elmo's World" on his twitter the other day. 

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I think we were all apoplectic at that point. Now let’s never speak of it again.

Very much agree with this! Even though I kind of spoke of it again mentioning that

by Red_Poodle on Jul 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I was apoplectic,

but I sure was drunk and angry, that’s for sure.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

You light up my dreary days with your tweets

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jul 8, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

See?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jul 8, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

x
I just ate half a bag of salt and pepper chips while watching old Mike Tyson highlights. Applications to be my friend are now being taken.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jul 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alla yous can fax your complaints to RijoSabes

He’s the one what done did the tweet compilationing.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 8, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to him

None of them had the #Reds hashtag

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jul 8, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then

Maybe next time you decide to create a twitter ruckus you will properly hashtag them, hmm?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 8, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haz learned my lesson

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jul 8, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

#flocka

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jul 8, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I laughed.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jul 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was an oversight, for sure

Trying to cast a wider net with our internal lists, but outside of being followed by our account, the other way in is the #Reds hashtag. And sometimes it’s just an accident of when we check in.

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 8, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so nervous about Dontrelle's start

Partly because I really want him to succeed. He seems like such a nice guy.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 8, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn't agree more.

and he’s been good before, so it’s not like he’s a complete waste, right?

He could be one of two things the guy who was good, turned in to a pumpkin, and came out of it, or the guy who was good, turned into a pumpkin, and stayed a pumpkin.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 8, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

When he was good, he was never that great.

2.5 BB/9, 6.5 k/9 is solid, but its very rarely gonna get you to 20 wins. If he can put up 1-2 WAR in the rest of the season, I’m a very happy dude. That would be better than what Boss TWood did last year, though.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jul 8, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 1.13 WHIP and ERA+ of 152 over 236 innings is a pretty sick season

6.4 WAR.

Hell, if he could replicate the 3.4WAR 2006 he put up afterwards, that’d be a big ol’ Christmas present.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a WEIRD season

people normally just don’t choose not to give up XBHs.

He had a great defense behind him, fwiw. Delgado, Castillo, Gonzo, and Mike Lowell. The .4 HR/9 is just bizarre.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jul 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clifton Phifer Lee?

How is he not on the Jane Austen All-Star team? Or maybe the Margaret Mitchell All-Star team, now that I think about it.

by the finest muffins on Jul 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

In one of my period and not uncommon spells when I was explaining (without invitation) some aspect of the Reds season to my wife the other day,

I got really excited talking about Dontrelle Willis, remembering how much I liked him when he first came into the league. It is easy to take for granted the kind of talent he was and that it is sort of a big deal that he is now with the Reds. I would absolutely love to see him do well, it would be a thrilling story and could really boost the team.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jul 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree totally.

I’m super pumped that DTrain is getting a start for the Reds. I know its been a long and ugly road for him to get here, but I too was a huge fan of his in the early aughts and many times dreamed of him pitching for the Reds. I just wish the leg kick was still around.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jul 8, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm excited to see how Mike Trout does.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jul 8, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

that makes two of us,

The cozart move here makes me happy, but I’m hopeful of seeing a superstar in the making w/ Trout

by mrsmith35sg on Jul 8, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

per Baseball America, per MLBTradeRumors...

BA released their mid season Top 50 prospect list…

and only 1 Red made the list.

Wait, what? Hasn’t the entire AAA lineup been crushing the ball?

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmm....

seems like this list is based largely on potential rather than what kind of season they’re having. what good is a mid-season list that doesn’t take into account the season? Yonder is better than at least one 1B/LF on that list, and Cozart is/was OPSing higher than 2 SSs (I think…). So yeah… pretty dumb.

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, not so sure about that

Seems a lot of the list has an eye on ceiling, which I think is defensible for a prospect list. As for performance, #50 Goldschmidt has far outperformed Alonso, albeit in double A.

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that's the case, I'm pretty shocked Yasmani didn't make the list.

Dude’s have a pretty monster season so far, at both levels.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Goldschmidt?

not even close. I guess I’m mostly pointing that one of the best performers in the minors so far is #50, so that means those performing at a lesser rate than him have to be ranked below him if thats what it takes to make it to the 50 slot.

I can see the argument for the list including more of those performing well this season, but if its a rehash of their offseason list then those prospects that were on that list and performing at an expected rate given their level should stay close to where they were then. Also I would imagine the park/league factors are taken into account.

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like an ongoing debate

I recall we had this discussion a year ago about the differences. Potential vs. likelihood the guy can make the Reds. So this list kind of depends on the author’s definition.

 If Yonder were called up today, he could conceivably be put into the lineup and get a couple of hits. Mesoraco might not yet be ready to hit MLB pitching.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the term "might not" was put there for a reason.

He has no MLB time, but Yonder does.
If Meso gets some swings this fall during callup, then I can say he’s at least seen MLB pitching.

Meso has NOT hit better at the MLB level than Yonder, which isn’t saying much.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also hasn't not hit better either

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jul 8, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok ceiling is a fancy word for potential... i forgot where i was posting.

most prospect lists are based on ceiling, i agree, so why would a mid-season prospect list just echo what could have been said in the previous offseason? it’s not like writers are putting out mid season power rankings based on how good the team looks on paper… it just doesn’t jive with me.

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jul 8, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the premise of the list

if its an alteration of the offseason list, then guys who have performed as expected without anything dazzling should stay close to where they were ranked before. Alonso was #73 and hasn’t outperformed the number 50 guy so I don’t see it as much of a slight (plus there are plenty of good names on there). If anything we should be giving them credit for ranking Meso so high after being ranked #64 on the preseason list.

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

also FWIW

Goldschmidt wasn’t ranked in the top 100 at all

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I guess Dusty really hates EdRent.

I was surprised to see that he’s already stated he plans on starting Cozart the majority of the time. One would think Dusty would give the job to the veteran over the guy who just came out of AAA ten times out of ten, but I guess it’s different this time.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jul 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Dusty knows

Renteria can’t play every day. He can’t take it physically any more.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 8, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty is nothing if not consistant in sticking with his roles

and I think he has Renteria firmly in the back-up SS role in his mind. Good thing too, I want to see what Cozy can do.

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wonder if Dusty is holding a bit of a grudge

Not really, but Rentawreck came to the team under circumstances that suggested he would be a backup utility guy. Now we find that he won’t play 3B, which limits Dusty’s options. Had Dusty known this in February, would he have been a supporter of getting the guy?

It seems that Dusty got blindsided by a reserve infielder. If that’s the case, it was RentaLie that caused it. I’d be pissed at him too if he did that.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would we even want Rent playing 3B?

Dude’s arm is barely passable at SS, that extra distance would not help matters.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jul 8, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would hope Dusty also knows

that Renteria is a sucky baseball player and should play as little as possible.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jul 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you hate Reds baseball players so much?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jul 8, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had the best 4th of July ever though

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jul 8, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jul 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the more i think about it

the more i realize that after syphilis rots your brain you are going to be Johnu1

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 8, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jul 8, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because they remind me of how you smell

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jul 8, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like money and entitlement?

Please excuse my avatar. I lost a bet, and jch24 is a jerk.

by nycredsfan on Jul 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going more for the crap angle

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jul 8, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

It’s funny because…

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jul 8, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bold move ...

Considering the very thin line separating the Reds from their separating themselves from this pack of mediocrity, any moves at all would be considered “bold” by people who wonder what the hell is going on at GABP.

It’s like rotating the tires before you decide to scrap the Caddie. All of us truly believe this Caddie can run, but why we’re still in the parking lot amazes us.

So changing shortstops is a pretty bold move, when the alternative is to see if we can get Josh Hamilton in a trade for Whiskey O’Sullivan and that other guy.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Given Edinson's first inning struggles, I don't know if the bullpen is the answer

But I’d let him try it in Louisville to find out. I feel like we have very little to lose at this point.

by ken on Jul 8, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

His first innings issues seemed to disapear after his return from AAA (with the exception of his last start)

I am wondering if preparing to pitch an inning every day for just an inning will change his mental approach. I just want them to try something different so they get something from him, rather than end up trading him for a bucket of baseballs, non-tendering him, or losing him to waivers.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Numbers 1 and 3 won't happen. I'd be shocked if they non-tendered him too.

I agree that something else needs to be tried though. I’m down with putting him in the pen for a while to see if it helps.

Please excuse my avatar. I lost a bet, and jch24 is a jerk.

by nycredsfan on Jul 8, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really know enough about Volquez personally to judge numberone.

I am assuming number three is losing him for nothing or almost nothing, that could happen. If he pitches this poorly next year, and the Reds don’t hold an option on him, they will have to do something. Non-tendering him isn’t likely, but I could see him traded for little in return.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 8, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I should've been more clear

I don’t think trading him for nothing or losing him to waivers will happen.

At least not anytime soon.

Please excuse my avatar. I lost a bet, and jch24 is a jerk.

by nycredsfan on Jul 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I am more thinking in 2012

something will have to give if he doesn’t get his shit together.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 8, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think there's a <1% chance a move to the pen works for him

but I’m fully willing to try it and and end up being wrong about that

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say... trade him to the Mets

Seriously, he can pitch in that ballpark and get away with it.
I’d take their 3B in trade.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have to come up with $15 million eventually for somebody.

Either a pitcher, a shortstop, a LF, a 3B or a combination of those.

I never heard anybody mention Wright in a trade anyhow, but I would like to get him and come up with the 15M bucks somehow.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish the Mets actually sucked as bad as we thought they would

Of course, NYY would have gotten Wright and moved A-Fraud back to SS and traded Jeter to the Reds, who would be playing at Lousyville now because of Zach Cozart actually being better.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would I be completely crazy if I suggested moving Rolen to LF in a scenario like that?

He’s old as fuck to be playing in the infield anyways, and his arm would play well in the outfield. Since our outfielders blow and Rolen couldn’t be any worse in left than Gomes defensively, it might be worth trying, right?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jul 8, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Please excuse my avatar. I lost a bet, and jch24 is a jerk.

by nycredsfan on Jul 8, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congratulations to RR favorites Ryan Franklin, Adam Dunn & Edinson Volquez

Jayson Stark has posted his half season awards.

Dunn wins AL Least Valuable Player.

Ryan Franklin wins NL Cy Yuk. However, since he was released, I think the award should go to Stark’s runner up…Our very own Edinson Volquez!

by 'tHan on Jul 8, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny about Dunny

I was telling some Wh. Sox fans last spring that Dunn would be an asset but that they had to be tolerant of his strikeouts. Most of them were pretty high on the Donkey and had high expectations (again, consider these are White Sox fans) … with him and the K’nerk in the lineup.

I guess they can tell me I was wrong about AD.
Dang, I hate when people tell me I am wrong about stuff.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised Dunn turned into a pumpkin this quickly

I picked the Sox to win the Central

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jul 8, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He always said he hated DHing

Helluva way to prove his point, though.

by ken on Jul 8, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

why has "Mr. Consistent" been so bad this year?

Any analyses out there?

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by BubbaFan on Jul 8, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

257 ABs, 113 K's, 20 long hits

I would venture to say that his vision has changed.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks heavier to me

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Jul 8, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB page lists him at 6-6, 285

Man, that’s a lot of man.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that Fa thing there mr volquez

i have a witty signature thought up, i just haven't posted it yet.

by joshuar9476 on Jul 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

That bill parker article is way short on the Reds' problems

LF still a problem, we don’t know if Cozart will work out, and Renteria is a problem imho as well, taking up a spot that could be used better on a good PH or a better LIDR. He’s right to peg Arroyo as a problem, his worst year as a Red so far.

But the team has tons of other problems: Rolen, slumping Bruce, and LF, and other slumping hitters too

by cokane on Jul 8, 2011 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

the slumping hitters I'm not too worried about

They’ll come out of it eventually. Even Arroyo, I’m not too worried about. The guy has always been inconsistent. We knew what we were getting with him, and that’s part of it.

I’m a little more worried than Parker is about the three-headed LFer. Just using that many roster spots for left field is a problem. Well, Heisey can play other positions. Still…the three-headed LFer means still no real backup for Rolen.

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by BubbaFan on Jul 8, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish Heisey could play 3B

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jul 8, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had him take GBs there somewhere near the beginning of the year

and came out saying he was amazed at how fast the balls got on him, said he respected anyone who can field that position.

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the world says Mat Gamel can’t play 3rd. Dusty needs to think “Soshball.”

"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane

by ol Pete on Jul 8, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

After going link hunting

Here’s what I found (via Fay):

"I took balls there the other day. As confident as I am in myself . . . just in batting practice, it was amazing how hard guys were hitting balls down there. That ball I hit at home to (Ryan) Roberts, how did he even catch it? I’d be pretty nervous."

Also found this article, which is Baker comparing him taking groundballs there to the Braves trying Dusty at third for a few days:

“It looked like he has good hands. This isn’t exactly the place to learn how to play third base,” Baker said. “That happened to me. I was an All-Star outfielder and [the Braves] called up Darrell Evans … to play outfield and put me at third in Toledo, Ohio, Triple-A. That lasted four days. I said ‘this is too close for me.’ It wasn’t that easy. They told me to put my chest in front of the ball. I didn’t have a chest. That’s why I had a glove.”

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish Heisey would explode

and we wouldnt have to worry about any monsters…but this isnt AAA so chances are <27%, +/- 27%

by mrsmith35sg on Jul 8, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heisey is on the list of 35,027 ballplayers who ...

… will hit 3 HR in a game just often enough so you won’t ever forget them.

And 10 years from now, he will be one of those “Oh, yeah, I forgot we had him on the team” players.

All teams have them. Not hard to replace them but it’s more effort than it’s worth for the moment.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tuffy Rhodes

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Jul 8, 2011 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think I agree that LF is a problem

Arroyo is a problem. Rolen looks like a problem. SS may still be a problem, along with Bailey. And the 5th starter is clearly still a problem, AFAIC. If Bruce has hit his ceiling, that will be a problem as he gets more expensive.

Lewis and Heisey have been helping this team, not hurting it, and even Gomes has managed to not be a drain overall.

by kcgard2 on Jul 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slow day here at RR

Lineup:
Stubbs 8, Renteria 6, Votto 3, Phillips 4, Bruce 9, Rolen 5, Heisey 7, Hanigan 2, Leake 1
SSS success (or not terrible-ness) for Renteria vs. Greinke gets him the nod over the rook. 7-22 only 2 Ks.

by vottomatic on Jul 8, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

that too

I can understand protecting Cozart versus Grienke though, but he’s gonna have to learn how to hit pitchers like that sometime.

by pack_fan on Jul 8, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Put the guy in the game. Cozart is as close to a big-league shortstop as we have.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured it would be Renteria at SS today

Dusty did say he wanted to ease Cozart into the job.

Dunno about the batting second thing, though…

Meanwhile, in Louisville:

Sappelt 8
Janish 6
Alonso 7
Mesoraco 2
Hermida 9
Dorn 3
Valaika 4
Costanzo 5
Carroll 1

Janish is in the lineup. Batting second.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 8, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's where the SS is supposed to hit.

They ain’t fools in the Falls City.

Strikeouts don't hurt the team.

by johnu1 on Jul 8, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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