Trade deadline day anger sadness happiness open thread
by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 9:42 AM EDT
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Ok, I think it's needed that we have one of these to celebrate MLB trade deadline day. Ubaldo is going to Cleveland! Slow-Cab is going to the Giants! Rich Harden trade to Red Sox fall through! My Reds prediction: No trades. And here's a fun nugget after the jump to get the proceedings started:
Yeah, as if trading Bengie Molina and installing rookie Buster Posey hurt the San Francisco Giants last season.
Fire Dusty.
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And at least the Reds didn't get Michael Bourn
FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal reports that the Braves have acquired Michael Bourn from the Astros in exchange for four minor leaguers.
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Braves just fleeced the Astros
From Jayson Stark:
Braves agree on deal w #Astros for Michael Bourn. Hou gets J Schafer, lhp Brett Oberholtzer, rhp Paul Clemens & rhp Juan Abreu. #trades
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT reply actions
I predict nothing good happens.
Either in the form of nothing at all, or in the form of a trade that we will all think sucks beyond Raven Riley’s ability.
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions
what do we really know of her abilities?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 31, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
let jch google that for you.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
is he the RR king of the Google search?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 31, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love if we could get Quentin from Willams
All of the major suitors are gone (Braves, Phillies, etc)
Williams and Walt matched up in the past with the Griffey deal. Also both GMs are good at keeping rumors quite from their offices. I think we could get him for a package around Grandal and Francisco/Frazier
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by Dave from Louisville on Jul 31, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
they both like pulling off big deals at the deadline last minute(Peavy and Rolen are examples)
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by Dave from Louisville on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Could happen
I think I’d probably do Grandal and Francisco for Quentin
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
We may as well play Alonso if we’re going the good bat/no field route in LF. Quentin being a righty is helpful but not really a difference maker. Plus he won’t be cheap next year (~7M), and then he’s gone.
we are going to have to get a LFer somewhere
and he’s still way than a FA
@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on Jul 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
i think MLBTR is broken, is anyone else have that problem
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by Dave from Louisville on Jul 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
Rosethal is saying three way deal looming
Champman and Wood to Florida, Hanley to the Cubs and the Reds get Soriano from the Cubs.
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What?
Where do you see that? That would be horrible
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Rosenthal now saying the Reds get
also get Dempster.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll cut a bitch if that happens
Tequila and pancakes, anyone?
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wayne Brady style?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 31, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Where is Rosenthal saying this?
Link? Or is it on MLBN?
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone close to the deal says
the Reds need a leadoff hitter and LF, and Soriano foots the bill.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll say it
for the last 2 years, Soriano has been worse than Jonny Gomes…
at everything. RBI, OBP, steals (yes, steals), defense, age, mohawks, division titles, champagne goggles, and fucking economic impact.
I don’t care if they gave us Soriano, paid his entire contract, AND paid the Reds an additional 10 million a year, I don’t want that overrated, half-assing, age-lying, injured mess anywhere near the team I root for.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rosenthal and Stark now saying
The Cubs want to add Alosno to the deal and would give up Jeff Samardzija. Reds are considering.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
so we'd give up Alonso, Chapman, and Wood
in a deal involving Hanley Ramirez, and the Reds would end up with Alfonso Soriano, Ryan Dumpsterfire, and Jeff Shouldaplayedfootballzija?
And what, 70 million dollars?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Source says Kremcheck to give physicals.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
My source inside the Reds says
This deal is contingent upon the Marlins giving us Omar Infante. Dusty really wants a versatile lead-off man.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 31, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Please tell me this is some kind of cruel joke!
If not then Jocketty must be purposely trying to get fired. This would be the worst trade of all time!
Deal now contingent on Walt adding Mesoraco to sweeten the pot for Infante
details forthcoming
We're all mad. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
Walt is now offering Grandal instead of Meso
The Marlins want a Latin catcher to headline their new ballpark, so they should jump at this.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a damned lie!
Rosenthal says the deal is basically done and it’s Meso.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, my source inside the Reds (I can't name my sources 'cause I'm a professional blogger)
says otherwise. Soooo, yeah.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 31, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Bill Bavasi isn't it?
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I have to protect my source's identity
but his name rhymes with “Slam, Want a gay”.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 31, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Bon Jofay?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for this conversation!
I’ve enjoyed reading it and the reactions.
by Brian B on Jul 31, 2011 6:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My pleasure.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
our prayers have been answered!
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Jul 31, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
that would be worse than horrible
why would you want to make someone stronger and weaken your self?
"Playing baseball for a living is like having a license to steal." - Pete Rose
How about
Chapman and Wood for Hanley and tell the Cubs to take a flying leap?
by ThisonebelongstotheReds on Jul 31, 2011 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
yes, and yes.
And he’s the future 3B when Rolen finally shuts it down.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Bedard
Could the Reds be pursuing him?
They were interested a few years ago.
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Bedard would be a good pickup....
but only if the reds could steal him. I wouldn’t give up too much for him. They say a lot of teams are backing off because of how he pitched Friday. That could be to the Reds advantage. He’s actually had a descent year.
I wouldn't mind having him for next year.
He’s the kind of guy I’d go after in the off season though. I want to see how/what he does (and if he’s still healthy) for the rest of the season.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Bedard to Red Sox, apparently
Funny they backed off on Haren for health concerns, but then went straight for Bedard.
by DevilsAdvocate on Jul 31, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It blows Jocketty backed off on Bourn!
I’m sure they were asking for the farm though. They didn’t get as good of prospects from the Braves as they would have from the Reds. It would have been nice to see him batting leadoff instead of Drew Flubbs and his Adam Dunn K rate!
I didnt realize how good a player Bourn was
just a step below elite- plus defense and offense. Very wise move by Atlanta didnt give up a top 10 prospect for a huge upgrade at leadoff.
Comparably deal from Reds – Heisey and Grandall- Grandall much greater potential value than anyone in the Atlanta package. I like Heisey alot more than Schafer.
Bourn/Stubbs/Bruce OF top defensive OF in the league all should be at least average offensively for their position with potential for all 3 to be plus. Would have been a good move.
He's not that good. Nowhere near an elite player.
He’s having a career season, but that’s all because of a .381 BABIP (40 points higher than his career average).
Once that regresses, he’ll be back to the .270/.340/.370 player he’s always been. I’m glad Walt didn’t get him.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
Your Bourn hate doesn't make sense
His BABIP is always high because he has blinding speed.
He’s been getting on base at a .350 clip for 3 years. He is a prototypical leadoff hitter.
Only gripe is he K’s too much, but since those don’t matter anymore, he’s A-OK.
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Aug 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not hate. It's realism
Before this season, his career OPS was .679. He’d never had a single season above .738.
This year is way better than the others, due SOLELY to a BABIP that is 40 points higher than his career average. Since his BABIP is based primarily on his speed, it makes no sense that it would suddenly get that much better. In fact, as he continues to depart from his speed prime, it will likely only go down.
So, as he regresses to a more normal BABIP, he’ll be back to the .270/.340/.370 (those are all generous, BTW) player he’s always been.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
by nycredsfan on Aug 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who cares about his OPS?
he gets on base as a leadoff hitter, which is something the Reds lack, no?
the Reds could trot out a leadoff man with a sub .700 OPS, as long as that person is getting on base at least 35% of the time, right? Or better?
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 2, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, hypothetically speaking
Either he replaces Stubbs in CF, or he plays LF.
If he plays LF, that means he is a well, well below average hitter for the position, and his speed is largely wasted there.
If the plays CF, that means he replaces Stubbs. Bourn’s career OBP is .338, Stubbs’ is .330. Not much upgrade, but a complete loss of power. Not to mention that Bourn will cost about 10x as much as Stubbs next year.
Bourn isn’t a terrible player, but he would be completely superfluous and useless on the Reds.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I thought Bourn got on base better than .338
things that make you go hmmm
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 3, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Heath Bell trade still may happen
Cardinals, Rangers and the Yankees are the teams involved.
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Ludwick
Pirates, Indians in on him
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
BREAKING NEWS:
The Jay Bruce-for-Albert Pujols deal has fallen through. Apparently Kremcheck gave Pujols a good once-over and came out holding his nose.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 31, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees also after Wandy Rodriguez
Boy, the Astros really suck now
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Well before they were just a bad major-league team
Now, they’re a bad-to-middling AAA team
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Indians close to getting Ludwick
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
Rockies talking with NL team about sending them Ian Stewart
Who in the NL would want him?
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
He is the kind of player you acquire during the offseason on a flier
He could always bounce back and become a useful player, but he’s not a guy who you figure on to help you during a pennant race.
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by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jul 31, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Rockies may also be trading Chris Iannetta
He’s not in the lineup….Blue Jays, Pirates, Giants all interested
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Rangers got Heath Bell
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Nope...they got Mike Adams
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
Fox Sports said there are several teams interested in Travis Wood.
Will this actually amount to anything?
the Reds are hopefully one of them.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
All Quiet on the Great American front
sigh
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
Walt's probably napping.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
very disappointing trade deadline
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by Dave from Louisville on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like no deals from Reds
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
aside from not dealing Ramon that is
the Reds are likely nowheresville this year in the division, no reason at all to make a deal right now. Wait until the offseason.
I didn't expect much
But there really is no reason to keep Ramon Hernandez around right now. Needed to trade him for a prospect and then bring up Mesoraco.
I think it’s the curse of having really desirable prospects. Other teams were asking for a ton from the Reds, but Walt wasn’t THAT desperate, so he held firm. I’m glad he didn’t overpay for anybody, but I still think there were some moves to be made at the margins to help the team.
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by cesarhernandez on Jul 31, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a big part of it was
a lot of our desired prospects were guys like Chapman of Mesoraco, and I can’t blame Walt for not dealing them. The Reds are lacking a little on big name A/AA guys, most of our big young names are with Cincy now (leake, etc.). Alonso I could see being undervalued in the trade market, Grandal and Wood too. We did not have the bullets other teams had like Pomeranz or Wheeler. We also weren’t in a place to buy due to the teams struggles this season. Like you, I’m slightly baffled by not moving Ramon, but I can kind of understand it if the only thing being offered were meh type prospects.
from Sheldon
"We thought we were maybe yesterday. In the end, it probably was not as close as we thought it was," Jocketty said. "We tried working on a number of big deals and some of the guys that were traded, we were in on most of them. Some of the requests for us, we felt were ridiculous and a lot more than we were willing to pay."
The big issue was that team were asking for some coveted Reds prospects.
"Not just one or two," Jocketty said. "It just didn’t make good sense for us in the short term or the long term. So we pulled back. We still believe we have enough talent here to win the division. I think we have to play better and I think this weekend was a great indication of what this team is capable of doing."
Jocketty believed that talks with Houston fizzled over the Astros’ reluctance to deal within their division.
"I think that was a big part of it," he said. "I think that’s why they asked for a lot more from us than what they got."
Sounds like he tried.
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gee, called that one
“Welp, we tried, but we couldn’t find a deal that worked.”
So much for reinforcements.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What if he had gone out and overpaid for Beltran/Pence/Bourn?
Would you be okay with that considering the Reds are in 4th place?
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beltran or pence wouldve been perfect
if walt had gone after them when the team first began to struggle. By the time the deadline came around, it was more or less too late for anyone to help.
3 weeks ago that’s a whole different story.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Aug 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't get the love for Pence
and Beltran is a rental. I wanted Ubaldo.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanted James Shields
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by BK on Aug 1, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would you have given up for Shields?
Be honest, and realistic
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd probably have to start it with Alonso
I’d have gone Alonso, Leake, Wood, Heisey. Throw in Roar if they want him and we get a lesser prospect, bench player, or reliever back. I’d gladly replace Alonso or Heisey with Grandal, or put Bailey in and keep Leake and Wood. (I wouldn’t feel great about that though.)
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by BK on Aug 2, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wood is the only guy you listed that I wouldn't want to give up
but for Shields, I’d understand that I’d have to
Alonso I think will also be a trade chip
Leake I’m not sure of
Heisey I think is a 4th OF
Roar is nothing but a throw in on a deal
I think we need to hold onto Grandal until we can showcase him more in the minors
Does Bailey really have any trade value?
I think you have the right idea for the pieces though
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 2, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Out of Leake, Bailey, and Wood
Wood is the first guy I’d put in a trade. Least upside of the three, even though I think they’re all future ML starters.
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by BK on Aug 3, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Fascinating
I’d rank them:
Wood
Bailey
and I have no idea really what to think about Leake. I really don’t.
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 3, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Would Ramon clear waivers?
This tidbit from rotoworld:
Giants beat writer Hank Schulman believes the team will target Ramon Hernandez in an August waiver trade.
So would anyone below the Giants put in a claim for him?
"There's only one god, and his name is Death. And what do we say to Death? Not today!" --- Syrio Forel, Game of Thrones
Giants beat writer Hank Schulman fails to realize the Reds may well be kicking ass and 2 games out by then.
They had their chance. If they wanted him bad enough, they could’ve had him.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So, someone help me out with this.
Ramon being a type “A” would net the Reds two top picks, right? What is the advantage to trading him? Aside from getting our boy Meso up here? I mean, with the draft track record lately, I’d rather take our chances there then what we would get from another team for a rental player. I don’t see a way the Giants would give up a first round caliber player, or two for that matter, for two months of CMM. Am I misunderstanding the scenerio?
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ideally yes, but we have to offer him arbitration to get the picks.
It’d be harder for him to get a job if he were a type A and he’s having a great season, so I think there’s a decent risk he’d accept arb and get $5-$6M on a one year deal next year which is probably more than the Reds are willing to pay. Given how they approached the Rhodes situation last year, I’d be surprised if Hernandez is offered arb after the year if he’s a type A.
Ah, I see.
So, the risks are getting nothing at all or be stuck with him for way more than you want to pay.
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by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
but realistically
if CMM accepts arbitration for, say, $5 million, he’s still a catcher signed for a 1 year 5 mill deal who is coming off of a year where he’s posted a .300/.360/.500 (so far) season.
While he may not net 2 top picks, if he accepts that offer, he’s still a pretty tradeable commodity. The Reds may only be able to trade him as if he was valued at 3 million (since he’s old), but they could still get almost as much value for him in the offseason on that contract as they could right now, provided he stays healthy and the catching market continues to suck.
I think Walt basically told himself that it’s worth that extra $$ risk to keep him around for the rest of the season to see what they can do.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 31, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
One advantage is you save on the signing bonus you'd give to your draft picks
Plus you have a longer track record to gauge a prospect rather than a draft pick. But I agree that with our scouting department, we may as well gamble on the higher upside in the draft.
There’s also some risk that the FA compensation structure might change with the new CBA this winter, so the Reds could end up with just one pick even if Ramon was a type A.
Has the scouting been terrible?
Seems, from the active roster, that Cueto, Leake, Votto, Bruce, Stubbs, Bailey, Frazier, Hannigan, Alonso, Ondrusek, LeCure, Janish, Heisey all came through the Reds system. Some of the non-ML acquisitions through trade
Others from the 40 man include Travis Wood, Yasmani Grandal, Zack Cozart, END, Valaika.
Noted minor leaguers also: Mesoraco, Hamilton (Billy), Sappelt, Ted Shackleford
Not really sure how to fit Chapman situation in there. I don’t think he was a particular secret.
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I think ken meant
that our scouting of the draft has been so good, that it’s likely a better move to go with draft picks than a lower upside player from another team’s system.
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oh, jeeps
You’re right. I clearly misread it.
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The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 2, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The other side to this
is that there is zero chance Ramon passes through waivers, and only a teensy chance he makes it all the way to SF.
He’s not going anywhere. BUT, if the Reds are still out of it in September, they’ll call Devin up when rosters expand and I could see them giving him significant playing time then. So really, we’re only losing a month of seeing him by not trading Ramon. No biggie.
I also don’t think they’ll offer Ramon arb. Too risky.
It feels so nice to be back to normal
I could see a few teams putting in a claim for Monie this month
The Giants are the obvious one, but the Pirates, Brewers, and Diamondbacks could claim before them. If nothing else, the DBacks will put in a claim simply to block the Giants.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 1, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, and I don't see any of those teams willing to trade a real prospect for him.
And I also don’t see Walt being willing to just let him go.
Ergo, he ain’t getting traded.
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So, we get nothing for him then.
No arb offered, we get no picks. Right?
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by Pops Daniels on Aug 1, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The morels of the story, huh?
If the world truly does end in 2012, that means we have just one more chance to win the World Series.
I dislike this story
The ends justify the means
by Highlifeman21 on Aug 2, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless, of course, it's already determined that he's going to be offered arb and will decline it
But yes, if that doesn’t happen then this is stupid.
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by BK on Aug 1, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm worried that the more likely scenario is:
Dusty can’t let go of his favorite catcher.
They offer him ARB, he accepts.
Mesoraco spends another year in Louisville.
CMM’s wheels fall off, but Dusty keeps playing him out of loyalty.
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by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Aug 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don't think Walt will let that happen.
You don’t declare a player untouchable in trade negotiations just to leave him in AAA.
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by joshuar9476 on Aug 2, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is great
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by Dave from Louisville on Aug 7, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
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