Farmers Only: I bet the fine people of Bakersfield are getting tired of free wings

by BK on Jul 19, 2011 8:00 AM EDT in Farmers only

Louisville lost 5-2 to Gwinnett. Scott Carroll got the start and gave up 5 runs in 5 innings. Jeremy Hermida hit his 10th homer of the year, but it wasn't enough, and the Bats only collected 4 hits overall. Up next: Bats take on the Braves at 7:05.
Carolina destroyed Jackson 12-3, behind a huge night by the offense. Eric Campbell led the way, going 3-for-4 with 2 homers and 4 RBI, and David Cook had 3 hits, including his 7th homer of the year. James Skelton added a solo shot of his own. Kyle McCulloch was impressive in his start, giving up just one unearned run in 7 innings pitched. Up next: Off day.
Bakersfield beat High Desert 12-6 to win their 4th in a row, and their third in a row scoring over 10. Free wings again! Their 36 runs in the last 3 games is more than the last 14 games before that combined. Cool story, Brodie Greene led the way going 4-for-5 with a home run, and new acquisition Jorge Jimenez had two hits and drove in 5 runs. Josh Ravin got the win, giving up 2 runs (1 ER) in 5 2/3 innings. Up next: Off day.
Dayton won another hard-fought game, this time breaking a 4-4 tie in the 9th to win 6-4 against Cedar Rapids. Ronald Torreyes was 3-for-5 and Juan Duran hit his 9th homer of the year. Stalin Gerson started and gave up 3 runs in 5 innings with 5 walks, and Luca Panerati and Chad Rogers pitched well from the pen to keep the Dragons in the game. Up next: Off day.
Billings beat Ogden 8-6. Radhames Quezada got the start, giving up 3 runs in 3 innings, and Dan Jansen, Ryan Kemp, and James Allen pitched in relief to seal the win. Devin Lohman had 2 hits to lead the way, and Robert Maddox hit his 6th homer of the year. Up next: Kyle McMyne takes on Ogden at 9:05.
The AZL Reds had the night off. They'll take on the AZL Dodgers at 10.

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Ronald Torreyes is a ridiculous human being.

.355/.400/.505, and he has struck out 6 times in 107 PAs (5.6% K rate). That’s exactly in line with his K rate last year too.

I say they pick up BP’s option year, then fastrack this kid to be the starting 2B in 2013 at the ripe old age of 20.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions

That might be a little fast, but if the kid can do this at the upper levels next year I don't see why not.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jul 19, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I was kidding. He's probably at least 3 more years away, or more.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

reds need more bats!

2013

1) Sapelt LF
2) Torreyes 2b
3) Bruce RF
4) Alonso 1b
5) Grandal C
6) stubbs Cf
7) END 3b
8) Cozart ss

(Might have Soto at 1b; mesoraco at c, yonder lf, grandal 1b)

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jul 19, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions

Mesoraco is a better bet to be a regular big leaguer at C than Grandal is, IMO

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by BK on Jul 19, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Agreed.

I’m also skeptical about Sappelt hitting enough in the majors to play everyday in LF.

Also, I was totally kidding about Torreyes being ready in 2013. That would be an extremely aggressive timetable for the kid that would likely require him to skip a level and only spend half a year at 2 other levels.

Also, if END is the starting 3B in 2013 Walt hasn’t done his job.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions

we've been waiting a long time now for walt to do his job

Operation: 'tHan's Awesome Plan is living up to its name.

by 'tHan on Jul 19, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions

eh. He's done pretty well all told

And I’ll wait until August 1st to rail on him for not being active enough during this year’s deadline.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions

ss/lf have been holes for years

Methinks 3b is the new hole.

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions

Wait, I thought OCab was awesome?

LF is kinda inexcusable, but you can’t really fault Walt for leaving SS as a hole. That’s a tough position to fill adequately, esp. through free agency.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions

ocab and rolen brought the reds a division title

They are awesome. Ocab took his talents to cle and now they’re playing for a div title.

Funny how orlando is always playing for winners…

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jul 19, 2011 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

So wait. Was SS a hole last year, or is OCab awesome?

Or are you just going to disagree no matter what?

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions

3B?

Not sure we can bang on Walt for the 3B situation. Who has a better back-up than Cairo? Solid MLB third basemen aren’t exactly sitting around waiting for the phone to ring.

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by poojols on Jul 19, 2011 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

not doing anything in the offseason was pretty inexcusable

sitting and watching as dusty hit janish and edgard 2nd all season was pretty terrible.

not doing anything to improve the team this season has been awful.

why’d it take so long for cozart? why is alonso still in louisville? why hasn’t he made any trades?

the season isn’t young anymore

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by 'tHan on Jul 19, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't disagree with any of that.

I think his fatal flaw this year was just assuming growth and improvement from all the young players and no regression/decline from any of the older players.

As it turns out, many of the older guys have declined (Arroyo, Rolen, Hanigan) and the younger guys aren’t really taking steps forward (except maybe Leake and Cueto).

Still, I’ll wait until August 1 to issue any harsh criticisms. If he can get something impactful done in the next 2 weeks, he could still affect major improvement this year.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions

i hope so

i have a feeling that if the reds don’t do anything by the trade deadline, attendance is going to tank

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by 'tHan on Jul 19, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions

That's very possible

The other thing that will cause attendance to tank is if they are still under .500 and 4-6 games out in August.

Hell, I’ll probably lose interest then too, esp. if none of the young guys have been called up. I don’t need to watch Fred Lewis and Scott Rolen scuffle for 2 more months.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't agree that Walt unwisely sat on his hands over the winter

The offense is more or less where it should be, minus a few high-leverage hits that you can’t blame Walt for. The rotation has been the major disappointment. But we all had reasonable expectations that it would be considerably better. Wood struggling, Volquez imploding, and Arroyo making a run at Eric Milton’s HR marks are perhaps individually unsurprising, but I did not expect all three to happen. Really, only Cueto has exceeded expectations, and even that is tempered by missing the first month of the year. The rotation has been nearly a worst-case scenario; that we’re still in the race at this point is actually encouraging.

by ken on Jul 19, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions

I don't disagree with any of that. I still think Walt was too lackadaisical last year while all the rivals got better.

He could’ve actually addressed LF. He could’ve adequately addressed Rolen’s inevitable decline and the need for a backup who could play more often.

He could’ve addressed what every critic said about the rotation: Namely , that it had a bunch of #3-4 starters and no frontline guys.

He maybe couldn’t have done all of that, but he didn’t do any of it. I hope he does it now, before it’s too late.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions

the main thing i disagree with here

is that I don’t think the reds are still in the race.

not as currently constructed anyway

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by 'tHan on Jul 19, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions

I think we're underachieving. If the team puts together a strong run over the next few weeks, they're right back in it.

A bona fide ace sure would be nice, though.

by ken on Jul 19, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions

yes it would

i wouldn’t be so worried if we were 4 games behind one team, but being basically 4 games behind 3 teams seems like a lot to overcome. we keep waiting for the strong run, but they haven’t been able to put together back to back wins in a really long time. i hope i’m wrong, but i’m really beginning to think the strong run isn’t coming

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by 'tHan on Jul 19, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions

i think we overvalue our team

We are all That Guy who thinks his gf is prettier than she really is.

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jul 19, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

well

Remember how for, oh I don’t know, 3 years we/they/everyone has been saying that “2011 is the year for the Reds,” and the success last year was just one year early?

Remember the extensions given to Votto, Bruce, Cueto, Arroyo, Cairo, Chapman, and Rolen (and offered to Volquez) because of this? Remember the “win now” Rolen trade even?

Well, its 2011 this year and the Reds are what their record shows: a very average team.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

That's the nature of fandom, but we're also several games under our pythag

by ken on Jul 19, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions

i was wrong on edinson and wood

I expected them to be 3.50-3.75 ERA guys.

I thought votto would remain a mvp candidate

I hoped bruce would make the leap.

I hoped stubbs would be more than mike cameron

I hoped janish was limited to 150 abs

I expected BA to give 200 league avg IP.

I hoped rolen played well for 100 games

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jul 19, 2011 9:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

His biggest mistake was the Arroyo extension

a second mistake was deciding Chapman needed to stay in the bullpen.

But if he declined Arroyo’s option he could have picked up Greinke.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 19, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions

Walt waited way too long on Cozart, and failed to Dusty-proof the roster

Also, there is no excuse for Gomes to be on the roster and Yonder/Frazier not. Trades are one thing, but Walt has had internal options that for some reason he has refused to accept.

To me, you try your internal options first, then try to make a deal if they dont’ work out. It may be getting too late for either to make a difference now.

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by btcoop71 on Jul 19, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions

What happened to Francisco?

Have you been avoiding him intentionally or is he tanking this year?

by Brian B on Jul 19, 2011 8:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

He's been hurt and on the DL since the beginning of July

before that he was doing his typical thing: Good BA, almost no walks, lots of Ks, good power.

.295/.325/.515 with 7 BBs and 42 Ks in 207 PAs. He’s a AAAA player.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions

i havent seen either play yet

2014 may bring yorman, duran, and hamilton to boot.

I look for votto to walk as FA.

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by Ewok on Jul 19, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions

It's entirely possible that one of those 3 could be on the club by then

But what’s crazy is that in 2014 the oldest one will be Hamilton, and he’ll still be only 23 (Meso’s age now). Yorman will only be 21 in 2014.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions

a ha! a long term avatar bet!

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2011 8:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

and

To reply to myself and eloquently expound…remember where Devin was and how he was performing 1 year after being drafted? I know Yas was a college guy, but still, Grandal is doing nothing to dispel his 1st round label either, and is doing it with less experience (and he’s not repeating a level).

I’m a big Grandal fan.

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Grandal fans need a nickname

Grandolphins? James Grandalfinis?

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by poojols on Jul 19, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Grandolf the Grays

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 19, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions

I was always cool with Yasmanian Devil

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I don't buy any of that.

Devin was a HS, cold weather catcher who spent most of his first 2-3 seasons battling injuries. Also, he spent a huge chunk of those first 3 years in extremely offense-suppressing environments.

During his age 22 season, in which he was finally completely healthy, (and technically, during his age 22 season—last year—he was 6 months younger than Grandal is during this, his age 22 season. Meaning, Devin is only 6 months older than Yasmani) Devin crushed 3 levels of baseball.

Grandal, in comparison, crushed the ball in A+, but not as much as Devin did, and Grandal was in one of the most hitter friendly environments in the entire minors. Now that he’s in AA, he’s looking less impressive.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a Grandal fan too, but there is no way you can compare their pro performance thus far and say Grandal has any kind of advantage.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

make Devin bat Lefty

THEN he’s got the advantage!!

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Devin vs RHP in AAA: .284/.358/.460

Not sure what Grandal’s are, but it’s not much better than that.

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by nycredsfan on Jul 19, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm skeptical of his K rate

but love his BB rate. I’m still not sold he’ll hit for average (nothing really to say he won’t, either), and I want to see his power numbers in a non-hitters environment.

by pack_fan on Jul 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions