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Losing's just another word for nothing left to lose. Reds lose, 4-1.

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Drew Stubbs.  Sure, he made a boneheaded baserunning error, but who didn't tonight?  Otherwise, he went 3-4 with a double and also walked.  He scored the Reds only run of the game.  Honorable mentions go to Edgar Renteria (two hits, one of which was a double [nice night from the top of the order] and two changed avatars) and Sam LeCure, who pitched 1.1 innings of scoreless relief.

Key Plays

  • The Reds were going to need some lucky bounces to get the better of Chris Carpenter, something they very rarely do.  The Cardinals seemed to want to oblige by playing some particularly shoddy defense.  In the third inning, Carpenter walked Drew Stubbs with one out, and then Edgar Renteria beat out an infield single when David Freese took slightly too long to get the ball out of his glove.  Chris Carpenter yelled at him for a bit, then gave up a single to Joey Votto, and Drew Stubbs scored.  Brandon Phillips then grounded a ball back to the mound, but Carpenter's throw was low and Daniel Descalso couldn't handle it.  Carpenter did not yell at himself.  With the bases loaded, the Cardinals rattled, and Jay Bruce at the plate, the Reds were poised to do some real damage.  Instead, Bruce grounded into an inning ending double play and the Reds never really threatened again.  Reds lead, 1-0.
  • Bronson Arroyo had been pitching a pretty sharp game, but made a big mistake in the fifth inning when he allowed Chris Carpenter to hit a double on an 0-2 pitch that went right through the heart of the plate.  Skip Schumaker grounded to second where Brandon Phillips made a great throw to third to nail Carpenter.  Daniel Descalso flew out, and if the pitcher hadn't gotten a hit, the inning would have been over.  Instead, Jon Jay came to the plate and laid down a bunt with two outs.  Arroyo fielded it, but slipped as he threw and Jay was safe with Schumaker on third.  Albert Pujols came to bat and everyone knew what would happen next.  Yup, home run over the left field wall.  Cardinals lead, 3-1.
  • In the seventh inning, Schumaker singled with one out.  Arroyo got Descalso to hit a grounder, but Skip went to second.  That was enough to allow him to score when Jon Jay singled.  Cardinals win, 4-1.

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via www.fangraphs.com


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Other Notes

  • Remember when Chris Carpenter couldn't win games?  Remember when Albert Pujols had a broken wrist?  Well, Albert Pujols only missed two weeks, and now has 20 home runs on the year.  He joins Eddie Mathews and Cincinnati's own Frank Robinson as the only players to hit at least 20 home runs in each of their first 11 seasons.  Pujols also passed Mike Piazza for 41st on the alltime home run leader list with 428.
  • The Reds have only scored one run in their last 16 innings against Carpenter.
  • Albert Pujols caught Chris Heisey taking a wide turn around second.  Drew Stubbs got doubled up when he didn't realize that Edgar Renteria's fly to center would be caught.  The Reds took advantage of two errors in the eighth to threaten, but Carpenter struck out Heisey to end the threat.

 


 

Final - 7.16.2011 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 RHE
St. Louis Cardinals 0 0 0 0 3 0 1 0 0 4 8 3
Cincinnati Reds 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 8 1
WP: Chris Carpenter (5 - 7)
SV: Fernando Salas (17)
LP: Bronson Arroyo (7 - 8)

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Damn it, I missed another thread with drunk Jch and John just being John....

How do you come to RR and get offended so easily? There is another blog, that shall not be named, where they don’t stand for offensive comments. “I am Barry Fing Gibb and I will not stand for this”!

by FSUBENGAL on Jul 17, 2011 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Jch won a lot of avatar bets, no?

Fear the Edgard, naysayers!

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jul 17, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

JCH is a witch

i have a witty signature thought up, i just haven't posted it yet.

by joshuar9476 on Jul 17, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Went to the damned wedding

Dinner was fantastic

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Jul 17, 2011 2:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Was it awkward?

"Red Reporter is respected as a meme-factory" RijoSaboCaseyWKRP

by redandblue on Jul 17, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

As it turns out, it all had very little to do with me at all. Who knew?

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Jul 17, 2011 10:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brewers finally won their lightning-delayed game

Came from behind to win 8-7.

Cards in sole possession of first place. Brewers half a game back. Pittsburgh 1 game back. Reds 4 games back.

The next series vs. the Pirates might determine whether the Reds are buyers or sellers.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 6:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what the record is for longest stretch without a 2 game win-streak

The Reds have gotta be nearing it… Slyde?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jul 17, 2011 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

it's getting to be ridiculous

At least the loss, loss, win pattern has been broken.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

it is really frustrating

because we started out the year with a 5 game winning streak. Maybe we’ll have another long streak of wins to even out this annoying pattern. We could be out of it by the time that happens, but I will be very happy to see a good 5-6 game winning streak

by Red_Poodle on Jul 17, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 2011 Reds are like the 1999 Reds One Game Playoff team

And every team they have faced has been Al Leiter. You keep hoping they are going to break out and take the game, but it never happens.

by Jack Armstrong started an All Star Game on Jul 17, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I stopped seeing this as a glass half-full.

I just think it’s a glass with some water in it.

I swear I am not making this up. The Reds are playing as though they suck. The 1962 Mets come to mind part of the time.

 

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup via the Fayplacement

Stubbs cf
Cozart ss
Votto 1b
Phillips 2b
Gomes lf
Bruce rf
Cairo 3b
Hanigan c
Bailey p

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

lefty on the mound

Don’t mind Gomes getting the start.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just want to see Heisey become the Starter

in the same sense that Bruce and Stubbs are starters. I think Dusty has fiddlefarted around with this for too long.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

So far in Heisey's short career, he has really struggled against lefties, with an OPS of .593.

I would like him to get opportunities against left handed pitching, but not against Garcia and St. Louis in the rubber match. You gotta put your best available line up out there today.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 17, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, really?

I guess I can live with a Heisey/Gomes platoon, then.

Like Heisey a lot, but still not convinced he’s not a tweener. (Glove not good enough for CF, bat not good enough for the corners.)

If we fall out of the race this year, might be time to find out.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I think Heisey is the best available

He hasn’t gotten the ABs against lefties to amass a reliable sample. His minor league numbers are just fine.

I have no problem with Gomes starting the game. Myy problem is with the weird 3-headed merry-go-round we have in LF. I think Heisey is the man for the job and I’d like to see him get 85% of the pt.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

split the time ... 60% hi-z, 40% yonder

trade gomes and flewis

i have a witty signature thought up, i just haven't posted it yet.

by joshuar9476 on Jul 17, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

But they keep playing him there…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe they're just hoping that somebody will bite

and trade for him thinking him as a LF is really an option.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 17, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

could be

Or it could be a negotiating tactic. Make it seem like they don’t want to trade Alonso, when in reality, he’s blocked behind Jo-eh and they have to trade him?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are the Reds just playing lousy baseball ....

… so they can find an excuse to trade somebody?

Hell, just make the frickin’ trade and get over it.
Afterward, try to not get doubled off second base on a routine fly ball to shallow center field.

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Serious question.

If you trade two spare outfielders, either together or separately, what exactly do you get in return?

(Oh, and the multi-player deal isn’t exactly the same answer.)

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

As opposed to Saturday?

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carpenter is a right hander

Heisey hits right handed pitching well and Gomes does not.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 17, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that's why we had Lewis.

Hu’s on first?

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, no Renteria??

Dude had 2 hits last night! Man, I just don’t understand some of Dusty’s decisions.

by DocRam on Jul 17, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he used all hits hits for the next month in one night ....

i have a witty signature thought up, i just haven't posted it yet.

by joshuar9476 on Jul 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

even if he were the starter

Bet he’d get today off. Sunday is veteran’s day off. Dusty usually alternates shortstops when it’s a day game after a night game.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

and he sucks at baseball.

i can’t believe people other than JCH and Ewok are bitching about Renteria not playing.

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 17, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty isn't clueless but he's reached the point of ...

But it must be nice to know that no matter how well you play, if you aren’t in the lineup tomorrow, you will at least know today. “Thanks for the warning.”

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, apparently

The word is that Mesoraco, Alonso, and Hermida were out of the lineup on Friday because they played in the ASG and were being rested.

No explanation for why they played Thursday, which is the day you’d think they’d get off.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jul 17, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Unless it's a jet lag thing, I don't get the "being rested" part.

How hard is it to play left field?

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

vottomatic got friday night's point being just two off

i got the point last night … i wasn’t close but i was closer than the other two who predicted the cards to win

i have a witty signature thought up, i just haven't posted it yet.

by joshuar9476 on Jul 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

STL 7

Reds 5

Nothing succeeds like failure.

by Yossarian22 on Jul 17, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Reds 8

STL 5

We must out score them for the series, it is the 2011 way.

by Red_Poodle on Jul 17, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, 1:10 est start time?

I’ve seen like 3 different times posted.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 17, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I really think Jiminez is gonna end up getting moved

and i really hope its to the Reds and not the damn Yankees

by vottomatic on Jul 17, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently, Denver has new colors?

How dare you libel a perfectly nice creature like the Giant Waxy Monkey Tree Frog by comparing it to a Frenchman.

by johnu1 on Jul 17, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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