82nd All Star Game Open Thread
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 6:35 PM EDT
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Chase Field, Phoenix
8 PM EDT
UPDATE: NL wins, 5-1. Reds All Stars went 0-6 with 4 Ks. One of them did that Looney Tunes thing where you strike out on one pitch and corkscrew into the ground. But they made some fine defensive plays and didn't get injured as far as we know.
Scott Rolen, taking over for the injured Chipper Jones and batting 9th, has bizarrely become the Reds' lone All Star starter despite being less deserving to make the roster than seven or eight of his own teammates. This may well be Rolen's final All Star appearance, so let's hope it gives him a little more black ink to seal his Hall of Fame case.
I was hoping Ramon Hernandez would make the team, but I'm OK with him staying out of that crouch for at least four days. Cueto was also worthy, in my opinion, but I'm even more OK with having every Reds pitcher take a solid break.
Here are the lineups, as of yesterday:
NATIONAL LEAGUE
Rickie Weeks, Brewers, 2B
Carlos Beltran, Mets, DH
Matt Kemp, Dodgers, CF
Prince Fielder, Brewers, 1B
Brian McCann, Braves, C
Lance Berkman, Cardinals, RF
Matt Holliday, Cardinals, LF
Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies, SS
Scott Rolen, Reds, 3B
Roy Halladay, Phillies, RHP
AMERICAN LEAGUE
Curtis Granderson, Yankees, CF
Asdrubal Cabrera, Indians, SS
Adrian Gonzalez, Red Sox, 1B
Jose Bautista, Blue Jays, RF
Josh Hamilton, Rangers, LF
Adrian Beltre, Rangers, 3B
David Ortiz, Red Sox, DH
Robinson Cano, Yankees, 2B
Alex Avila, Tigers, C
Jered Weaver, Angels, RHP
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really?
I’ll be skipping both of them to go to bar trivia and play soccer. I think I’m the real winner in all of this.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
what's cooler than an internet message board?
A popularity contest on an internet message board!
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by the way:
this article on Mike Leach is the sort of thing I’d like to see from Grantland. Especially since Staples takes pains to not rail against ESPN despite their fairly obvious complicity.
Even if you don’t care about college football, it’s a story of a guy who’s too interesting to pass up, yet is feared because of it. I can’t wait for Spencer Hall’s story on him coming up.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
basically:
SI for long form
SBNation for short form
ESPN for watching the Reds get blown out of nationally televised games and the occasional soccer match.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jul 12, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
flag'd
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Rolen...
This Rolen-Millar interview starts with a certain jocularity but then gets sort of odd. I can’t tell if they are actually teasing or if Rolen is actually getting a bit irritated:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16859097&topic_id=7417714&c_id=mlb&tcid=vpp_copy_16859097&v=3
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jul 12, 2011 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
it is kind of weird
But I think they’re just joking around.
The Fayplacement posted it at Reds Insider, with this comment:
One of my favorite moments of last year’s All-Star pregame was Kevin Millar interviewing Scott Rolen.
Low and behold, Millar and Rolen were back at it again today – this time with Harold Reynolds.
Sounds like it’s a thing with them.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Scott Rolen
“I had to go 0-3 to stay above .240. I got hit by a pitch to drive in a run, my only RBI of the series.”
Joey Votto is Canadien?
I have to admit, the AL squad looks pretty sweet.
I dunno about Cano though. On the other hand, he’s the home run derby winner, obviously he’s indispensable!
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
since you're a secondary Tigers fan (congrats, btw!)
is Alex Avila for real? I mean, I don’t think he’ll continue this pace, but is his bat legit? and how’s he field?
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
He's pretty awesome.
I really thought he was going to regress after last year, but he’s still being awesome. His defense is meh, but I think much improved.
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
Cano (doncha know!)
has probably been the real Yankees MVP over the past few years.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Maybe? But this year, he's like, the fifth best 2B in the AL.
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
I'd still take him over any other 2B out there
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Man, I didn't realize he was actually younger than Ben Zobrist.
I guess I remembered him being good for the Yankees five years ago, and assumed he must be 36 now.
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
While I still think of Robby as a kid
But he’s not any more.
He’s got an insane amount of talent. Sweet swing, and a great glove. The main problem is that he can be a bit of a bubblehead sometimes.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by the way
This is quite possibly the funniest, awesomest, most enjoyable-est thing I’ve come across all day!
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I know
I keep waiting for him to turn back into a pumpkin. But he’s been decent the last couple of years, especially lately.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'm still a little stunned
that the talk is of the Reds being sellers instead of buyers at the deadline. Is that coming from the Reds camp, I wonder? And if so, is it legit, or just a negotiating ploy?
I wonder what teams Jocketty is talking to. Ramon to the Giants? Leake, Wood, or Bailey to the Rox, for Jimenez?
Only a couple of weeks’ worth of games to decide if they’re going to be buyers or sellers. Talk about a SSS…
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I guessed I missed RR's Schism moment
This is because we’re trying to scale back borderline pornography? Or what?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
It's because you won't recognize the un-vanilla-ness of Jimmy Buffett and Edwin McCain!
by Brendanukkah on Jul 12, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He has an island, right?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
how this isn't green is beyond me.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jul 13, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
it's about as "edgy"
as a bunch of 40 year olds drinking Long Island Iced Teas at Applebees while leering at the high school cheerleading squad.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
Also, it was highly offensive to post an official home run derby thread instead of front-ing boobs' SIS.
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
Are you serious?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
They’re taking their toys and going home to the other side of your backyard.
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
by andromache on Jul 12, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I scheduled both last night and tonight's threads in advance
I can’t anticipate when someone is going to do a FanPost. If I’d gone to write it just prior to the game, I probably would have fronted the other one. I’m not out to make more work for myself.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
And don't even think about a Civil Union between the two posts
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah
Maybe RR could allow 4Chan-style, anything goes “separate but equal” gamethreads…with the understanding that they’re deleted the next morning. That way, they could have their pr0n and SB Nation wouldn’t have to worry about being labled a porn site.
(It really does matter, in odd ways. Filters at public libraries, schools, and offices block you. It might affect your Google rankings.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
yeah
and the SIS one tonight was posted first, too.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with this line of thinking
Red Reporter is a baseball site. Of course there’s going to be a HR Derby thread on the front page. Of course there’s going to be an All Star Game thread on the front page. If you’d like to complain that someone created their own Super Bowl Sunday thread instead of front paging a fan shot, that makes sense. This isn’t even touching on the fact that the HR Derby fanpost could have gone straight to the front page when it was created.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jul 13, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, I made this thread and I have to lie in it
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
sup 'KRP?
I promise I won’t just spam here.
I just got caught up in your neighbor’s thread because I saw it first.
Which Red’s going to make the biggest impact tonight?
I say BP…and, sadly, I see Jay-Hova going 0 for 1 with a late-game-important-sitch K.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just hoping for no whammies
Bruce is an interesting case. He’s both delivered the biggest home run of 2010 and had a costly playoffs miscue in the field.
The experience writing the ASG Moments thing suggests a good mix of youth and experience helps, though Perez did hit his big home run in his first ASG (at 25).
So I’ll support you on BP.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
he did not deserve that error, dammit
He lost it in the lights. It could happen to anyone.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
A veteran would have willed himself better vision
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's 50-50
Basically, some scorers rule it an error, some don’t. It’s the scorer’s discretion.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Was it you that had the all caps comment defending him about the error?
Because that made me laugh really hard
Fuck it, we'll do it live.
yes, that was me
Glad to be so entertaining. :-P
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
don't worry about it
If it weren’t this, it would be something else, no doubt.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Seems like a nontroversy to me
This post (and the HRD one) weren’t fuck yous. They were scheduled posts that I prepped while doing 10 different other things.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm gonna go ahead and do a prediction for tonight's game too ...get em in people
AL 6
NL 4
i have a witty signature thought up, i just haven't posted it yet.
NL 7
AL 6
MVP: Matt Kemp, Rickie Weeks, Bill Hall (oh wait, no Reds pitchers are in it) I’ll go with Tulo
Joey Votto is Canadien?
still getting used
to have hundreds of channels with Fios. I keep forgetting there’s HD versions of all the sports channels.
Hmmm, and there’s a Spanish language version. I wonder if my Espanol is good enough to follow the “Juego de la Estellas”?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I like beer, btw
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
I keep meaning to grab a beer with you sometime
by Brendanukkah on Jul 12, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
My fault - I'm a flaky person. I've been in and out of town for the past year
Hopefully things are calming down, but I may not be in town much longer.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
MLB Trade Rumors
Looks like there’s not much out there, unless you’re looking for a center fielder or a right-handed relief pitcher. They said the trade market this year is “especially ugly.”
Maybe there’s nothing Walt can do on the trade front.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
David Roberston?
Jhonny Peralta?
What is this, the NBA? Or the unconventional name-spelling Olympics? If so, they’re missing a certain Reds LFer. I had no idea Peralta was hitting that well.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
It's the Jhon Fya All-Stra Gmae!
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
if that's the Yankees pitcher
D-Rob spells his last name the conventional way. It’s Robertson.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
ack
But it looks like you might be right.
They’re only just starting introducing the players. There’s still the national anthem, first pitch, and all that crap, right?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
the player introductions are like always fun.
Especially for the “Do I smile now?” faces or the “why are they boing me?”
D-Rob
didn’t even take off his hat like the rest.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Not too hard though
I hope No Injuries wins.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think its "why are they boring me"
I think its, “i hate joe buck”
by RedHotHollywood on Jul 12, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
Number One Guy
I don’t like vests, really. But I don’t mind the Name On Bottom
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions
geez
Joey’s right, Hunter Pence’s eyes are kinda spooky.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There is also a lightning inning where all 34 players take the field at once
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I kinda wish they'd make more of a mockery of this event
Some major pro sports league needs to get desperate enough – or have nice enough underwriters – to let fans take the field during garbage time.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be a prominent feature of the XLB
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
holy crap
The Pirates have three All-Stars. They really are not the same ol’ Bucs.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
the Reds have 4!
and are under .500….sigh.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
from the sounds of the boos
I think they booed everyone but Upton.
Tough crowd!
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, Montero got some love too.
"Red Reporter - An elitist clique full of like-minded douchebags." - BK
Jay and Joey are so cute together
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'm not sure why they went with Arroyo for the plush doll
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
hah
Actually, Arroyo was suited to that style of doll. All gangly arms and legs. The only other player that long and skinny is Stubbs.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
yeah, he'd make a good plush doll as well
But common, you wouldn’t want to see kids making him blow himself.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
well, no
But we’re not exactly shocked by it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
it's a new show?
It looks just like American Idol. Was that Paul Abdul again?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
It's on the American Idol Channel
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Idol is the show with Steven Tyler leering at 15 year old girls.
X Factor is the show with Abdul eye fucking Cowell.
Then when they hell are they going to collab on this Century's version
of Walk this Way?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Adrian Gonzalez was boycotting this event
because Arizona is a bunch of dicks. Whatever happened with that?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 12, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions
I wondered that
I think the story just went stale. The SCOTUS upheld AZ immigrant employment law.
(We’re really partying after this comment.)
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
didn't they
change the law enough that a lot of people who had issued ultimatums could climb down?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
and even though this is blatant, common knowledge
Bruce Bochy chose not to start Votto as DH.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe West threw them all out already.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Foe Juck
Is the most disinteredted shit pie snacking ballmouthed afterbirth trained shit fuckbasshole lesbian gang sign trouble with tribbles turd calling announcer that ever was, and we get to suffer his banal cinnamon sperm flecked dulcet monotone in what should be a light hearted game to watch. He makes it suck.
Shoulda been Gus.
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 8:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
pretty much
There is one good thing about him talking…
McCarver isnt.
A Ongreed the Deserving
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by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 8:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Put the bottle down, Bud.
You don’t need that.
by Im_a_fun_haver on Jul 12, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm getting spammed by a friend of mine
The e-mail has a link to a web site that offers to repair my devices. I suspect it’s attempting to download malware – it’s calling a script from www.ajax.googleapis.com
Weirdly, the site opens with IE, even though all other links open with Firefox on my system.
My friend is freaking out. The mail appears to be coming from her old AOL account, which she doesn’t use any more. She does use the AIM account associated with it. They aren’t just spoofing her addy. It’s going to all her contacts, and no one else, so the person or bot has access to her address book.
I looked at the headers, and the e-mails appear to be coming from Mexico, even though she’s in Ohio.
WTF is going on?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
thanks
She’s done that, and is running a virus scan.
Her two daughters’ AIM accounts seem to be similarly compromised. Or maybe their addys are just being spoofed.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Kids still have AIM?
I thought only people stuck in 2003 (like me!) still used/heard of AIM.
I don't think I've ever used AIM
they’ve integrated it with Facebook now, so that might be why they use it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I've never used Facebook
I have serious privacy concerns about it. Even if I’m careful, my parents won’t be. (Dad almost got taken in last weekend by an e-mail from a colleague claiming she had been robbed and lost her passport in Italy, and needed a loan of $4,000 to get home.)
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
x
Her addy book was hacked and may be now spoofing her account. Are others getting this email from her?
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes
Basically, everyone in her address book is getting it.
I can see the CC’s on my copy; they aren’t hidden. And I recognize them all as her friends, family, mailing lists, etc.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
x
Try googling a phrase from the email that seems less common than others. Might point you to what is going on.
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i tried that
But the only thing in the e-mail is the link. It appears to belong to the web site of an Italian artist, but the page itself is not art-related at all.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
ah yep
I got hit with that shit
Url end w php?
Fucked me bad… Screwed my registry(or my computer happened to get smoked at the same time, by coincidence)
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yes, it ended with php
Page didn’t seem to load. Perhaps badly coded.
I have WinPatrol, which I’ve found more effective than antivirus software, but I might download AVG and run it. Kinda freaked me out, that the site opens in IE even if you’re using Firefox.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
trying to google it and see if what it was seems familiar
Whatever it is, it was new when I hit it. I never open shit and this time I did. Same deal, b-i-l’s email was hacked.
Italian web site
php extension
I think I got screwed by the cleanup tool, not sure. I got hit. I downloaded a tool to fix it, since it was a new one. Computer wouldn’t reboot.
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
no luck...
can you tell me the URL it is trying to use? (please don’t include the http so that nobody accidentally clicks on it… )
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
better yet
type DOT and SLASH where appropriate
ie:
wwwDOTredreporterDOTcomSLASH2011SLASH7SLASH12 etc…
A Ongreed the Deserving
-coviner's lawful neutral Paladin / Debutante character
I'm kinda hesitant to do that
Don’t want to put a poisoned link here, even in non-clickable form. Some people are going to go there out of sheer curiosity.
I’ll e-mail it to you if you really want it.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I bet lance berkman is in right field because of his stellar defense.
by thevole on Jul 12, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yankee kid
He’s from Alabama, and has been very active in charitable events to benefit those affected by the tornados.
He’s been the 25th guy on the roster until this year, when he’s suddenly a stud.
He only recently found out he made the All-Star roster. (Another injury sub.) He heard Girardi calling, “Robby, Robby.” He thought it was Robby Cano who was wanted in Joe’s office, but no, it was him. Girardi told him to brace himself, he had bad news. He was trying to remember what he might have done wrong, when Girardi told him, “You’re going to have to change your plans, you’re going to Arizona.”
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
yeah they talked about the charitable stuff, which is pretty cool
I love pulling the “I have bad news” thing on people too, always entertaining.
The XLB has no umpires
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only do they have umpires...
but they DOUBLED it.
this xlb idea has legs
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
why don't they make those mistakes when they play the Reds?
That slide was awful
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okem dokem thread
I threw this in the renegade SIS, but I’ll lob it your way too.
knew he had been good, and I knew he was getting a bit older, but damn, Tim Hudson has been nails his whole career.
Since discussing Ubaldo is suddenly on the table, why not this guy too? Braves have plenty of holes, notably in the OF, and have been rumored to be shopping a pitcher (Jurrjens and Lowe in the rumor mill) for an OF bat.
Would you send them Stubbs for him?
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
I don't want to give up Stubbs
I love Heisey, but I have serious doubts about his ability to play CF.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Sappelt!
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not no how would I give up Stubbs for Hudson
Stubbs for Jurrjenns could be palatable.
And I’d be interested in all three if they’d take a AAA package.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Hudson's signed for 9 mill this year, 9 mill next, with a 2013 option.
I thought Sappelt’s defense was pretty damn solid, too….
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Or more than palatable
No way is Jurrjens available, though.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
you’re that down on Hudson?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
More up on Stubbs
I wish Arroyo were Hudson, but with payroll the way it is – and the relative ages of Stubbs and Hudson, I’d keep Stubbs.
I still like the idea of making a Brewers-like run at Jimenez while trying to get Volquez into trade shape over the next season+.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just not quite sold on the fact that Ubaldo will be better than Hudson for the rest of '11 an '12.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He's cheaper and younger
and signed through ‘13 with a void-able option for ’14. I’m not sold on whether he’ll be better for that entire stretch either, but I think the Reds have to go with the younger, cheaper option if they have the luxury of the choice. And if the Rockies would listen on a Mesoraco-free package.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
that's the fulcrum of my argument, though.
I think Hudson could be had for less than Ubaldo, frankly, because Hudson is older and a bit more expensive.
And for the period of time that they’re both signed, I think Hudson has every chance to be better than Ubaldo. He’s got low HR rates, low BB/9, and has been superbly durable.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess, to counter your point, I'm just not as high on Stubbs as I used to be.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you're getting at
I guess I just don’t want to see the Reds add another ostensibly durable mid-30s, mid-rotation arm to their rotation, even if it’s just for a year and a half.
I want a higher upside guy who poses less financial risk and is likelier to improve the rotation more dramatically. I’d be willing to put up the prospects to get it, because that seems like the area of biggest need.
But players that fit that description only change hands once every 1.5-2 seasons. So it might mean someone like Kuroda or Hudson. It’s just not going to be as satisfying to bump Willis, Leake (or trade Bailey?) for them.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, imagine both...I think they're mutually exclusive trades!
What if they send Alonso/Homer/Boxy for Ubaldo, and Stubbs for Hudson.
A Cueto/Ubaldo/Hudson/Leake/Arroyo rotation, with Wood, Lecure, Willis, and Volquez as extra ammo for a late run or offseason trade bait is pretty compelling.
The only caveat is being willing to call up Sappelt to be the new Heisey, while Heisey takes over full time CF.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I think there might be a bigger chasm between Stubbs' CF
defense and Sappelt or Heisey’s. I’d like to see what Sappelt can do in the majors for the Reds sometime soon – since I think his trade value is still pretty low because of his size/lack of MLB experience/relative lack of “prospect” status – but not at the expense of losing Stubbs.
I see Heisey as the likeliest to be traded. I still want to see him tried as the primary started, but he’s replaceable in LF and his trade value is peaking.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
that's got a lot of truth in it.
And to be honest, I’m skirting the realms of possibility here.
I just think it’s extremely unlikely that the Rockies get rid of Ubaldo, and I do think it’s rather likely that the Braves will trade a pitcher for an impact bat.
Looking through the Braves’ rotation, I think Hudson’s the type of guy that Walt will look at as a “Rolen” type acquisition, and the Reds to seem to have exactly what the Braves would want in return…a young, cost controlled, impact OF bat in Stubbs.
It would be tough to lose Stubbs, sure, but part of the reason I think many of his defensive metrics have him pegged as barely average is that GABP simply doesn’t “need” a CF as gifted as him to cover the whole territory. If he’s in Petco or SF, he gets to show off his speed in the gaps, whereas in GABP he can’t. Heisey is just effective enough to cover all of GABP.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a good point about GABP
But that’s only a small portion of his value – namely, fly balls that would not be HRs elsewhere. He still plays the other half of his games on the road. Even assuming slightly above-average defense in CF, he’s capable of above-average power (for a CF), average OBP skills and 30-40 SBs.
With Stubbs’ upside (totally debatable), he’s pretty hard to replace. I’d expect either Heisey to get more mileage before he’s traded or Stubbs to fetch a better return.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
but that's still 81 games in GABP.
If you could pick up a 5 win pitcher like Hudson, you’d like to think you could find a LIDR CF to be Heisey’s “caddy,” if you will, for games in bigger parks on the road.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the Reds can carry a player who's just
a rangy CFer. At a certain point, to justify a position on the roster, it’s just Stubbs again.
I like Heisey, but I just think Stubbs has better value as a CFer than he does. And it has a lot to do with his speed, on both sides of the ball.
By virtue of being bumped over to LF for most of the time, Heisey is more replaceable, so I’d just as soon trade him first.
But I agree with you that the Reds desperately need Hudson-like production in their pitching staff. I just don’t think, after Arroyo and before more arb raises, they can take on the risk that Hudson represents. Staying competitive means hanging on to players like Stubbs.
I think I’d rather rent Kuroda because he doesn’t have an impact on next year and might be easier to get because of that. By next offseason, maybe the trade market will be better.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Sappelt, from what I've heard, can be that CF backup
and he can do a lot, lot more, based upon his numbers so far.
That’s why I like the move so much.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't you expect a better return in a trade involving Stubbs though?
He’s racked up 7.4 fWAR and 9.0 bWAR in the rough equivalent of two seasons and will be working for league minimum one more time. I’d put Hudson’s absolute ceiling and he’ll be paid much closer to what he’s worth.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, perhaps.
And I’m not saying that it’d have to be a 1 for 1 straight up trade. Maybe Walt could negotiate some filler that would even it out, eventually.
I love Stubbs’ defense, I’m just not sold he’s going to get any better on offense than he already has shown. If anything, I think he might’ve been figured out.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's possible
But young hitters often hit these troughs. Bruce, Upton, et al. He needs to re-adjust. He’s going to have contact problems like he’s had his whole pro career, but I don’t think he’s going to be eternally baffled by MLB breaking stuff. And his power may keep maturing. He’s a weak buy, I think.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not Upton or Bruce
obviously. But between college, the minors and majors he’s shown enough ability to hit at an elite level in CF for me to think this is just a a readjustment period and not his final state.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear ya
but if Rasmus is truly on the market, don’t think Mozeliak hasn’t kicked the tires on it.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
** "absolute ceiling at 5"
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Stubbs is +34 runs by Total Zone in about two seasons
UZR doesn’t like him as much, but I don’t agree with the statement that the metrics don’t like him as much as us.
yes
Stubbs is a lot better than Heisey in CF.
I’m still not quite sure what to make of Heisey. He’s managed to look really terrible on defense in all the games I’ve seen him in. (His awful D became something of a running joke during spring training.) His hitting has also been pretty fluky. (Could be the small sample size.)
Exciting as Sappelt is, I’m kind of worried about how he’ll translate to the big leagues, given his diminutive stature.
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Heisey's looked fine on D when I've watched him
not plus though, Stubbs is way out of his league. I remember a big catch that Heisey almost got to which ended up in some runs scoring (would’ve been an easy play for Stubbs).
yeah
The scouts seem to think Heisey’s D is fine. Maybe I’m just bad luck for him.
But Stubbs is definitely better. There was one game recently where two hits fell in and one went out, that Stubbs probably would have gotten to.
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give Heisey the chance to play CF everyday
and the knowledge and practice that goes along with that, and I think he’d be just fine. Better than fine, actually.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they let Halfshirt McDouchenozzle play CF last year.
Heisey would be just fine.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
he’s taken fine routes on balls in centerfield just that he wasn’t fast enough to get to the ones Stubbs is fast enough to get to.
this year's all star game is like a soccer game...zip to zip
I propose we make the leagues start their worst pitchers instead of the aces…
that should make it more interesting…
Nobody listens to Andrew
Lance Berkman with the only hit
And here I thought he was cooked after last year.
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I wish they would follow the example of the XLB's All Scars Game
in which only DL’d players are eligible.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there a better hot medium/mild sauce than Cholula or Tapatio?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
dhatil
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by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tapatio doesn't hold a candle, comparatively.
I may be biased, though. I’ve been to the Cholula bottling plant in Mexico.
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ChoLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUla
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
brett farve caught thatvshit
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by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
brett farve caught thatvshit
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by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you can say that again...
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
...to us!
Singer: So did you know you can bring a gun in here now?
'Mache: I BROUGHT TWO! **flexes**
x
It was caught on his little sun nipple ring
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by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 9:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
or maybe on his prince albert ?
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I know...how about we trade Edinson Volquez straight up for Josh Hamilton ..
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Tell your boy we said thanks.
Also, I’m just now reading through moneyball. Billy Beane may have made a bad choice passing on Fielder.
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He didn’t actually pass on him, but the Brewers taking him affected the A’s. Its the sort of involved story telling I would hope would be in the movie, but based on that preview I’d guess not.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
yeah, you're right.
I wasn’t remembering quite right (to be fair, I was reading it on a plane at 11PM.
Had Fielder been available when Beane drafted, I’d have taken him over Swisher.
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"Said with such sincerity"
Joe Buck – all of America mocks your fake sincerity.
Thank you Justin Timberlake for speaking the truth.
that was a hilarious exchange
I bet Buck is hot under the collar now
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, what?
headphones on… what did I miss?
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timberlake mocked Buck repeatedly
I wasn’t sure if JT was actually mocking him or was just acting oddly, but by the end of the interview JT’s intent was obvious.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel so dirty
I just cheered for Prince Fielder
by coviner on Jul 12, 2011 9:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I feel so dirty
everytime I have to watch another shameless FOX plug for a lousy RomCom.
by jambolyajones on Jul 12, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
When I did an internship at a production company
we would get weird, barely-English emails like “Agented rom-com there?”
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you cheer for him to turn into Joey Votto?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, then I did changeling shots
Long story short, it worked
by coviner on Jul 12, 2011 10:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jordy Vorto
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
Votto is a stud
He seems to be enjoying himself, too.
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Its hard to be straightforward and stylish both while playing simple defense, but yeah.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
He had such a big smile on his face after making that tag
He’s usually kinda serious, even in spring training games, but he seems to be very relaxed and happy tonight.
Now I wanna see Bruce!
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yeah it was nice seeing him so enthusiastic
he loved making that tag. Too bad it wasn’t a good night at the dish
looks like
he shaved before the game. He’s looking mighty fine tonight.
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yeah--he looks like he's having fun too
Between him, BP and Jay, I think all viewers will be jealous of the kind good looking guys on our team.
(I even think Rolen is an OK looking guy but I know that most here disagree, but apparently he was popular among female fans back in Philly)
I have no idea where "kind" came from
but I guess it wouldn’t hurt to throw that adjective in there (especially for Jay)
I was looking at Rolen's piercing eyes
and I thought…the ASG is making me gay
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Jul 12, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sal Fasano
had a bunch of groupies in Philly. (“Sal’s Pals.”) Clearly, they aren’t too picky in Philly.
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I don't think that was a female thing, though
For a while, any player was getting a bandwagon (Wolf Pack, Padilla’s Flotilla (even though he’s Nicaraguan), etc.)
Sal's Pals were women
They came up to NY once in awhile, when he became a Yankees.
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That's not how I remember it
and I don’t see any mention of it being all-women at this Phillies’ blog. Him getting a cult following was based on having the most Italian name/appearance possible, for a team playing in South Philly.
we need to ask that Philly fan
who consoled us after the sweep. I can’t remember his name but he came here to run off a troll and help us cope.
I only saw them when they came up to NY
and Toronto. They seemed to be all young women, though I suppose there coulda been some guys in drag included.
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that reminds me
when we played Toronto a couple years back there were scantily clad women there cheering for Gomes. I guess he had some kind of AL fan base. It was strange
I turned the game on just in time to see that Jo-eh subbed in.
What other Reds have played so far? I’m guessing Rolen was already taken out?
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I think Rolen's still in
But might not be for much longer.
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Not gonna lie, good timing on my part.
I turned it on just in time to see Joey make two nice plays.
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so does this stadium have a pool?
The FOX coverage seems to be ignoring it.
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by redandblue on Jul 12, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
no, you must be imagining things
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The beauty of the all-star game
It reminds me to dread Tim McCarver calling MLB playoff games.
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I think he's actually better than Buck
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Joe Buck
Is that controversial on RR?
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I think its pretty unusual everywhere.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
I muted the game and turned on ESPN Radio.
I don’t know who’s doing the play-by-play, but they are infinitely more interesting than Joe Buck.
Joe Buck is a stain on baseball. He’s the Jose Canseco of broadcasters – arrogant, over hyped, and full of crap.
by jambolyajones on Jul 12, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty sure thats what I have is the ESPN radio broadcast
whoever is running the stream is also blacking out the commercials, which is a big plus.
Joe Buck is maybe the worst announcer in all of sports
and McCarver is maybe the worst Color Commentator in all of sports
Hawk Harrellson vs. McCarver would be a dandy
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
also Jimmy Dykes, can't stand that guy
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
well, yes
Unless you’re Mrs. Buck.
Why do you like him?
Just curious…
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He likes baseball
He seems to talk the right amount. I don’t watch a lot of football so I don’t let that cloud my judgement of him. Do you think that matters?
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I dunno
I tend to compare baseball announcers only to other baseball announcers.
I really don’t like the Fox or ESPN announcers. They just seem to blither on, talking for the sake of talking.
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I have low standards
McCarver just found out Youklis’s nickname made famous in Moneyball. That kills me!
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wait
how the hell has Miguel Cabrera just now entered the game??
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
AGonz started
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ortiz DH'd til the 6th?
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
that as well?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My friend just texted me this same thing
and sounded like an asshole with the strength of my “no” in response
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm....Reds....
0 for 3, 3 K’s…
4 games back, 4th place.
ouch.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Good defense though
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
this guy thinks we're awesome!
Of course, he’s been dead for millenia.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I am curious how you'd mete out the disparity in actual/ pythag win pct.
Some has to go to back luck. But also sub-optimal bullpen usage and bad early-innings pitching that puts the Reds at a win expectancy disadvantage in games when they hit well.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I chalk it up purely to reverse Karma due to last year's team.
This team just cannot be justified as “due” with as many squeakers as were pulled out last year.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Those were so much fun
Every win felt like stealing.
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There could be something in the groupthink there
Subconsciously at least, feeling entitled to win those games after last year and not being in the right state of mind in late/close game situations.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Really dunno what to think about Rolen anymore
Is he toast? Maybe. His defense and diminished production from 3B in the NL help him float a little. But can’t shake the feeling that the band tuning up to play him off the stage.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he'll Gil Meche it and retire, saving the Reds some cash since they bailed him out of Toronto.
They they can make the long awaited Youkilis trade!
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Now, that man has been an allstar in 100% of his full Reds seasons.
Not even Jo-eh can say that.
by Jack Armstrong started an All Star Game on Jul 12, 2011 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, every "full" year Joey's played, he's been an All-Star
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
check that, never mind.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
enthusiasm
he sounds like Droopy Dawg reading memorial names of the 9/11 dead.
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Joey says
this is how you do it Prince
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
I just started watching
did Prince drop a pop up, or are you just referring to Fielder’s lower quality D in general?
He had a tough over the should catch that he dropped. It actually looked like Weeks should have called him off to me.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
It's amusing to me
that some people who have never seen Votto play might think he’s a defensive specialist
As long as he doesn't have to flip a ball to someone
he isn’t too shitty.
yeah his defense is pretty good
it’s just not usually the thing most would associate with him. Just watching thsi game, though, you definitely would
In this game...
he’s made two decent defensive plays. He’s also struck out. For most people who’ve seen Votto on national TV….Votto tends to only be bad.
he's better than Fielder...
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
Is Bochy just putting the NL East pitchers out there?
he certainly wouldn't want to put Central pitchers out there
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by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
jeez
Another oblique strain?
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is that what they're saying about Miggy?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
Miguel Cabrera out with a strained side.
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well, darn
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This should really just be a hyper-realistic video game
that they all play over a LAN.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
just sim it and email everybody the results!
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jul 12, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I already get enough of their spam
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
NL leads 5-1 in the 7th
Guess that means we can start booking our Game 1 tickets at Reds.com, right?
I guess so
since Coco’s not an All-Star.
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Muhammad Ali looks awful
I have a hard time believing that he wants to be there and it’s not the case of someone using him to get an invite.
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he wants google + ?
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by supergrover on Jul 12, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He's looked terrible for about twenty years
I saw him at the airport around 1999; didn’t think he’d make it another five.
Where's Jay Bruce?
He must be the last guy on the bench.
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What was BP saying to Votto while Bell was running in?
I hope it was a Cordero joke.
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he kicked up a lot of turf
he hates the grounds crew
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet it was something about
Todd Coffey
by Red_Poodle on Jul 12, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here comes
the Reds, er the Cards, uh I hope someone in the AL’s new closer.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
that reminds me
Molina and Phillips in the same lineup is hilarious
by Red_Poodle on Jul 12, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see how a homeplate celebration were to play out if
Molina were to reach and BP were to homer.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
A Molina-Cueto battery is pretty conceivable for next year.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
they look so bad
I feel like it should count as a loss.
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who do they play this weekend?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, thank you
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
And do it the NHL way
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Craptacular
They’re smart enough not to try too hard.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Braun injured? Or where is he?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
Only through my fingers
I thought maybe Braun would be back and I’d missed the news.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Started out “day to day.” Now he “should” be back for Colorado.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
I like Braun and hope he gets back soon
I really thought we had an advantage with him out. But, well, Cordero and I don’t want to think about it anymore
There may be a Best Beards in Reds History
post if this season jumps the shark. Or even if it doesn’t.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jul 12, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
WIlson?
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
and that's the problem with Starlin Castro
Still wondering if he’ll stick at SS.
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He's young enough to grow out of it
Ripken also had a lot of errors when he came up. He seems to have the range, which you can’t teach.
could be
His Total Zone is kind of ugly, but it is a small sample size.
The thing is, his bat is good enough that he could move down the defensive spectrum a stop or two, and still be a very valuable player.
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What is McCarver talking about?
Michael Young wanted to be traded when they wanted to be a dh and hanrahan was not the closer all season for the pirates! Do these guys watch baseball?
Votto for Rookie of the Year!
by Zach K on Jul 12, 2011 11:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
don't listen to them...just tune them out
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees-Red Sox is the only baseball worth watching
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and for Buck and McCarver, the WLBs too
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously!
Buck said hanrahan was 26/26 3 times! He is coming off more unprepared than usual!
Votto for Rookie of the Year!
by Zach K on Jul 12, 2011 11:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
McCarver has never followed the hot stove
IIRC, he spends his winters in Mexico or somewhere and doesn’t read baseball stuff at all.
speaking of ugly...
here comes wilson
Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BRING IN THAT COMBUSTIBLE FELLOW!
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Jul 12, 2011 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
that dog doesn't look of age...
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by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
she's 18 in dog years
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
by Grahamophone on Jul 12, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That was quick
Don’t these games usually go 3:30?
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I hereby move that this picture be designated for use whenever something in baseball doesn't make sense
a la the “Dusty Shrug”
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he says now the reds will have home field advantage !
go BP!!
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by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 12, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the brewers and the reds are in love
they gaze longingly at one another.
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Jul 12, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Prince gave Coco a rubdown
they reminisced.
He fixes the cable?
by Colin Auscapee on Jul 12, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Bruce got an error for that throw?
Bummer.
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that stinks
but I doubt it will bother him much. He got there and got to play that’s all that really matters. Also, he did not get hurt!!!!
the Brewers are clealry committed to winning this year
but I hope that move implodes on them just the same
He its no better than Axford.
But, he is better than Loe. That said, their D still sucks, and have nothing in the cupboard if someone big goes down
by coviner on Jul 13, 2011 2:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Man I hope his option vests.
I can’t see Milwaukee letting that happen, but 17.5 mil would cripple the Brewers next year
by Chester Drawers on Jul 13, 2011 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that MIL makes him the setup guy and it doesn't vest
He needs 21 more games finished for the option to vest. They could spot-save him and still fall well short of the vesting threshold.
If the Brewers get a shortstop, the division race is over.
holy cow
The Brewers are going all-out this year.
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the Brewers FO does this though
they will always be aggressive when they’re in contention, see: Sabathia.
the Brewers FO does this though
they will always be aggressive when they’re in contention, see: Sabathia.
Sheldon has a pretty good piece on the ASG
I enjoyed the bit about Bruce and Halladay the most. Jay discussed a conversation he and Roy had:
“He said, ‘Why couldn’t you have just grounded out or something?’ I said, ‘Why did you embarrass us in the playoffs?,’ Bruce said. “Seeing what he does on the field and the way he goes about his business is something I admire. He’s a professional.”
Good comeback Jay. I almost forgot that it was Bruce who prevented that perfect game. A no hitter is much more palatable than a perfect game
Timberlake and Buck
i want video, dammit. I missed it.
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x
Found it
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16864875&source=MLB&gid=2011_07_12_aasmlb_nasmlb_1
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less awesome than I hoped
I was hoping for decimation! Pull Joe’s bra off, Justin!
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