The 2011 Reds Draft: The recap.
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Thanks to all who read the draft coverage the last few weeks, particularly the last three days as the selections unfolded. I am ever appreciative to BK, nycredsfan,Kidd2Petrovic, pack_fan and others who helped make this possible. With MLB’s Draft Tracker going haywire and Baseball America’s tracker operating several rounds behind, there was no way to do this in timely fashion without these guys. Kudos, my friends.
Today we offer a wrapup of the Reds draft, selection by selection. I’ll post players individually, then a "Turtle’s Take" in the comments, so these are easier for you to read and comment on.
Overall, I’m pleased. Robert Stephenson was a strong pick at No. 27. I like the Ryan Wright selection a lot. Amir Garrett could be a tremendous selection. Sean Buckley is legitimate.
For me, the Reds went a bit reliever heavy, with four, maybe five, of the top 10 selections being bullpen arms. I’d liked to have seen more starting pitching acquired. Quick-moving relievers, though, make good trade bait if nothing else. The Reds drafted a lot of athletes. I like that. Those players come with risk, but their potential to improve and develop as baseball players is high. Cincinnati took some college outfielders with some pop. I like that, too.
The Reds didn’t draft anyone from Marshall, but eight Thundering Herd players were selected. I know, you don’t care, but what the heck., I’m including it anyway.
Here’s a look at the picks 1 through 50:
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1. Robert Stephenson-RHP-Alhambra HS.
Stephenson went 7-2 with a 1.33 ERA this season. Long, loose and projectable, Stephenson is a University of Washington signee, but is considered among the more signable HS hurlers. In 64 innings, he struck out 132 and walked 23. Stephenson throws 93 to 97 and can pitch up in the zone. A series of minor flaws in his delivery appear easily correctable. He features a strong curve and mixes in a developing change. Very intelligent, Stephenson started the Aflac East-West All-Star game. Baseball America ranked him 24th overall. He’s very receptive to coaching and is a high-character kid, hard-working and coachable..
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:07 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
I like this pick. Stephenson was a better option than any of the college pitchers available. While I’d have been pleased with Texas SS Trevor Story, the Reds need to add impact arms to the system. This guy has potential to be that. He has a good body and a smooth delivery. If he can master a changeup, Stephenson could develop into a front of the rotation starter.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions
For some reason, he kind of reminds me of Kyle Lotzkar, minus the injury risk.
I’m looking forward to seeing how he does.
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Sure is.
I’d take that.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 2:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Atlanta Scouting Director Tony DeMacio
said the Braves were going to take Stephenson if the Reds didn’t. Instead, they wound up with Florida State LHP Sean Gilmartin, a player rumors had the Reds interested in selecting.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2. Gabriel Rosa-CF-Collegio Hector Urdneta.
Baseball America ranks Rosa the No. 2 prospect in Puerto Rico and the No. 118 prospect overall in the draft. A Bethune-Cookman recruit, he likely will turn pro. Scouts compare him to former Red Juan Encarnacion. At 6-foot-4, 180 pounds, Rosa offers plenty of projection. He was a good enough athlete to play SS and CF in high school. He might move to a corner OF spot in pro ball and has the arm to handle RF. He has impressive raw power that could show up big once his hitting mechanics are smoothed out.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:09 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
This kid reminds me of Juan Duran or Yorman Rodriguez. Considered by many a third – or fourth-round pick, he might be a bit of an overdraft. I might have preferred Hawaii RHP Lenny Linsky, Merced JC RHP Jake Cisco or one of the difficult to sign guys such as Matt Purke or Daniel Norris, but Rosa is a fine talent.
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3. Tony Cingrani-LHP-Rice.
Cingrani wondered if Rice even wanted him back after a disaster of a junior season, but coaches tinkered with the former JUCO star’s mechanics and he developed into a shutdown closer. Baseball America ranked him the No. 23 prospect in talent-laden Texas. The 6-foot-5, 205-pound southpaw went 4-2 with a 1.74 ERA and 66 strikeouts in 55 innings while allowing 47 hits and walking just 10. Opponents batted .224. Cingrani throws in the mid-to-upper 90s and has a below average slider.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:10 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
I thought this was a bit of an overdraft, too, but the Reds apparently like what they saw. Flame-throwing leftys have value if they can throw strikes. Cingrani needs to improve his slider or learn to throw a changeup to reach his potential.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Height....
One can only hope that 6’ 5" frame can help him use that leverage to throw more strikes on a consistant basis esp. once he fills out more
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4. Kyle McMyne-RHP-Villanova.
A sturdy 5-foot-11, 220 pounds, McMyne is better than his numbers suggest. BA ranked him third in Pennsylvania and No. 153 nationally. McMyne features power stuff, but holds velocity deep into games, so the Reds might give him a chance to start. His slider is a swing-and-miss pitch, but can be inconsistent. He has confidence in a curve that lags behind his other pitches. McMyne went 4-8 with a 4.75 ERA. In 78 innings, he struck out 94 and walked 49.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:12 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Another hard-throwing reliever. Love the strikeouts. Detest the walks. If he develops consistency with the slider and cuts his walks, McMyne could be valuable. Still, I thought the fourth round was a bit high.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions
any sense of what his chances of starting are?
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
If he improves the consistency
of his slider and improves his curve, he has a real shot to remain a starter. If not, he’s a power reliever. That he holds his velocity well is a factor in his favor.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
5. Ryan Wright-2B-Louisville.
Wright grew up a Reds fan. His dad played at Miami (Ohio) and his grandfather played pro hockey in the IHL. Wright can hit, going 12-52-.346/.426/.598 this season. He stole 16 bases in 18 tries and fielded .972. As a freshman he went 5-66-.335. As a sophomore he was 16-80-.366. He struggled a bit in the Cape Cod League, but still walked 11 times and struck out just three. BA ranked him the No. 4 prospect in Kentucky and the No. 101 prospect in the draft. Wright’s power and speed are fringe-average, yet he gets the most out of them, reaching double figures in home runs and stolen bases last season. Wright is versatile, having started at second, third, short, left and right. He has good hands in the field and strong hands at the plate. Wright has an average arm and range. He projected as a second-round pick as an offensive-minded second baseman.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:13 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
I love this pick! Terrific value in the fifth round and the kid can hit. His versatility is a plus. He reminds me a bit of Ryan Freel. This is a nice fallback selection for missing out on Kolten Wong.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions
He reminds me more of chris valaika than ryan freel
freel was fast
"strikeouts are a lot sexier than groundouts"
Wright's versatility and gritty play
are what brought Freel to mind. Wright can play the outfield.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
6. Sean Buckley-3B/RF-St.. Petersburg JC.
The son of reds scouting director Chris Buckley, he’s a legitimate player. BA ranked him as the No. 45 player in Florida. He brings right-handed power, an above average arm and plenty of strength. Many consider him the premier JUCO power hitter in Florida. Scouts think he can stick at 3B, but if not, he can play a strong RF or 1B. Buckley began his career at South Florida and batted .250 in 60 ABs as a freshman. He runs 60 yards in 6.8 seconds. This season, Buckley posted a line of 10-52-.379. He has signed at Florida International, but is likely to turn pro.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:15 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Good pick. I like the power bat and the athleticism. Buckley doesn’t appear to be just a slugger. He’s a good, young athlete with HR potential. Drafted by the Cubs in the 29th round in 2008, Buckley ranked as the No. 20 JUCO prospect available for the draft.
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7. James Allen-RHP-Kansas State.
Yet another bullpen arm in a 6-foot, 197-pound package. Allen is the Wildcats’ all-time save leader with 31, including 17 this year. He throws 90 to 92 and has hit 94. His delivery leads scouts to call his heater "sneaky fast," meaning it gets on hitters more quickly than they expect. BA ranked him the No. 10 prospect in Kansas. Allen’s stats are impressive. He went 3-1 with a 1.35 ERA in 29 games this season, allowing 25 hits, striking out 45 and walking 11. Opponents batted .179. He was solid as a sophomore, too, going 5-1 with a 2.58 ERA. Allen throws a solid slider and is a strike thrower.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:16 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Well, if you’re going to draft relievers, Allen’s a good one. He limits the hits and walks, features two solid pitches and has performed against top-notch competition. Sounds like a middle reliever.
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8. Jon Matthews-CF-St. Petersburg JC.
A 6-foot-3, 205-pound athlete, Matthews (20) is a teammate of Buckley. He projected to go in this range. He features a strong arm and 6.5-second speed over 60 yards. A transfer from Charleston Southern, Matthews was the 19th-ranked JUCO prospect available in the draft. Matthews posted a line of 6-40-.344/.416 this season and stole 24 bases in 28 attempts. He had 15 doubles and four triples. He fielded .967.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:17 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
I like toolsy athletes and Matthews fits that perfectly. He has a good body, plenty of speed, a solid glove and can hit. Solid pick.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:18 AM EDT up reply actions
9. Cole Green-RHP-Texas
The 6-foot-, 220-pound senior figures to be an easy sign, but probably cost himself some money by turning down the Tigers’ $400,000 offer after they selected him in the fourth round a year ago. The No. 3 starter on a loaded staff, he’d be the ace at a lot of schools. Green moves the ball around and changes speeds well. Hitter have difficulty squaring up the ball. A mature kid who believes in his stuff, he doesn’t try to do too much. His pitches have good movement, even tailing in to RHH. His fastball is 88 to 92. His slider is solid average and tough on RHH and his change is a weapon against LHH. He gets groundballs. BA ranked Green the No. 20 player in Texas and the 161st-best player in the draft. Green went 7-3 with a 3.09 ERA this season. In 18 games, 17 starts, he allowed 78 hits, walked 18 and struck out 99. He gave up six home runs and foes batted .213.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:19 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Great value pick, here. Green profiles as a back-end starter or a middle reliever. He doesn’t overwhelm with his fastball, but knows how to pitch. How far that takes him, we’ll see. He should move quickly through the system.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions
So his ceiling is a #3?
and his floor is middle relief?
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
I'd b thrilled of he's a No. 3.
I’m really thinking 4 or 5 or long man out of the pen. There is value in all of those things.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lecure is a pretty good comp.
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10. Brooks Pinckard-RHP-Baylor.
A 6-foot-1, 190-pounder, he was drafted by the Cubs in the 18th round a year ago. He’s a fascinating player, as he’s one of the fastest players in college baseball, having stolen 66 bases in three seasons. A slash-and-run CF, Pinckard runs 60 yards in 6.4 seconds. It’s what he does over 90 feet, though, that got him drafted. Pinckard throws 92 to 96 with life. He walks too many, but it’s because he’s raw as a pitcher. He has thrown just 106 innings in college. Pinckard went 5-3 with a 3.57 ERA this season, mostly out of the bullpen, and profiles as a late-inning reliever. In 57 innings, he allowed 47 hits, struck out 43 and walked 31. His slider is promising and he has a changeup he seldom used.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:20 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Another good gamble on a guy with upside and a live arm. Some projected Pinckard as high as the third round. Was he difficult to hit or just wildly effective? We’ll see. Pro coaching and simply getting innings should help Pinckard.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry for all the questions, but I'm just really curious about a lot of these guys
Is he going to be a reliever right out of the gate? If his stuff is that good, is there a chance they try to stretch him out?
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I think reliever. He is relatively new to pitching, though, so they might start him at some point if his stuff plays up. Right now he’s a guy who can come in and throw it by jitters in shorter stints.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 2:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
11. Vaughn Covington-LHP-Killarny SS.
The Reds annual foray into Canada nets them a 6-foot-5 17-year-old. Covington had Tommy John surgery in September and is unlikely to throw before the mid-August signing deadline. He has touched 96 and generally throws 90- 92 with good sink. His curve is promising and he performed well during his team’s tour of the Dominican. The No. 2-ranked prospect in Canada, he could be a tough sign and might opt to prove himself at a junior college.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:21 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
This kid’s a high-reward guy. Fresh, live arm. TJ isn’t potentially the career ender it once was. No four-year college commitment. If he signs, he’ll be brought along slowly. Valiquette anyone?
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions
12. Joe Serrano-SS-Salpointe Catholic HS.
A 6-foot, 185-pounder, Serrano has signed with Arkansas. He won’t be an easy sign. Serrano went 11-69-.541 this season, with 26 doubles and 22 walks. He holds some state hitting records. Aggressive on the basepaths, Serrano is ranked by BA as the No. 29 player in Arizona. He features a short, compact swing. His 7.19 time in the 60 is less than impressive, but he’s said to be a good baserunner. His summer league Area Code Games team was sponsored by the Reds and included players from Utah, Nevada, Hawaii, New Mexico, Colorado and Arizona. He went 6-35-.455 as a junior. He’s a hard-nosed player.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:22 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Not enamored with this pick at No. 12. Maybe his game plays up over his tools. Scouts put a premium on guys who can run and 7.19 isn’t fast, particularly for a middle infielder.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions
13. Nick Fleese-RHP-Texas A&M.
Fleese went 6-1 with a 1.55 ERA and three saves this season. In 40 innings, he allowed 38 hits, struck out 30, walked 10 and held foes to a .244 batting average. A reserve OF when he arrived on campus, Fleese moved to the mound, dropped 35 pounds and improved his work habits. Now 6-foot-3, 215 pounds, he hits 95 with his fastball and sits from 90 to 92 with sink and life. His unconventional motion adds deception. A senior, he throws strikes with his heater and slider.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:24 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Another reliever. I’m all right with this one. He’s reasonably new to pitching and has shown flashes of being very good. He should K more than he does with his heat, but that could come as he learns to pitch. He’s a project, but as a senior needs to grasp things quickly.
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14. Ryan Kemp-RHP-St. Joseph's (Md.)
A two-way player his first two seasons, Kemp was strictly a pitcher this year. Out of the bullpen he went 1-2 with a 3.14 ERA. In 25 relief appearances, he saved four games. In 28 2/3 innings, he allowed 21 hits, struck out 42 and walked 12. In 2009, he was 1-3 with a 5.09. He went 0-0 with a 6.46 ERA in 2010.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:25 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Gee, another reliever. Impressive strikeout and WHIP numbers, though, this season. Maybe concentrating strictly on pitching is what Kemp needed to blossom.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:26 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a mountain of relievers
I was hoping for a value version of the Matthews pick somewhere in this stretch.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 9, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It is.
The Reds might try some of them as starters, though. A lot of big league bullpen arms were starters in the minors.
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15. Will Dorton-RHP-Lugoff-Dorton HS.
A 6-foot-3, 180 pounds, Dorton is a quarterback on his football team. He was a starter and reliever for his high school team. Stats are virtually non-existent. He signed with the College of Charleston.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:26 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Surprisingly little information exists about this youngster. He’s solidly built and features a strong arm that pumps fastballs around 90 m.p.h. He’s athletic. C of C, with whom he signed, is a fine program.
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16. Connor Costello-RHP-Santa Fe HS.
Six-foot-3 and 180 pounds, Costello is an Arkansas signee. BA ranks him 18th in talent-rich Oklahoma. He throws 88 to 91, has a feel for spinning a curve ball and throws a changeup. Costello is athletic, has a quick arm and has strong command for a high schooler. Tricep tendinitis limited him last season. Arkansas anticipated Costello as being good enough to possibly pitch in its weekend rotation as a freshman. He’s projectable and athletic.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:27 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Costello’s not going to be an easy sign, but is worth making a run at him. He’s very projectable. With his fastball and a feel for a curve, Costello’s ahead of the game. I like his athleticism – he had two triples in a game this season – and his quick arm.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions
17. Morgan Phillips-SS-Douglass Academy.
The No. 15 prospect in New York, Phillips is 6-foot-1, 192 pounds. He played for a mediocre team in Harlem, where he was the premier player on his ballclub. A College of Charleston signee, Phillips has an impressive physique. He’s raw, but has skills, strong wrists and a quick bat. He’s a slashing, top-of-the-order hitter. He batted .455 and stole 15 bases last season. He batted .324 in league play. He’s a hard worker who works on baseball indoors six months a year. He is known for strong makeup and is said to be quite humble.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:29 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Another athlete. I like it. He’s a good-looking kid with some real ability. He is a disadvantage playing in a cold-weather state, but has done everything he can to make himself a better player.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Everytime I see something about this kid, I think of Billy Hamilton
When you come to the fork in the road, take it.
by poojols on Jun 9, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think he's near as fast as Snax
but a slap-hitting SS with a potentially better hit tool sounds nice to me
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
18. Jim Moran-RHP-South Florida.
A draft-eligible sophomore, Moran has extra leverage. He went 4-1 with a 3.91 ERA out of the Bulls bullpen, allowing 23 hits, striking out 18 and walking 14 in 23 innings. Foes batted .274. A transfer from Maryland-Baltimore County-Catonsville, Moran’s dad was a pro scout for 17 years. Moran is the third player the reds have drafted from USF in two years. Moran had a 1.93 ERA in the Cal Ripken Collegiate Summer League last year and opponents hit .235.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:30 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Lanky kid who’ll probably opt to return and improve his draft position. Someone, or several someones, in the Reds front office probably knows his dad, who was a Royals scout.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions
So with a name like that
he’ll get drafted by the Cardinals next year?
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19. Chris Joyce-LHP-Santa Barbara CC.
Joyce was recruited by some big-time programs before signing with Cal-Santa Barbara. He transferred to Santa Barbara City College, where he went 7-1 with a 2.04 ERA and 114 strikeouts in 70 innings. Joyce, a 10th-round pick of the Dodgers out of high school and a 29th-rounder by the Rockies last year, walked 25 and allowed 39 hits. Joyce is a JUCO All-American and his league’s pitcher of the year. Joyce has signed with NAIA national champion Cumberland.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:31 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
A lot of people like this guy and so do I. He was drafted twice and was offered scholarships by some of the premier programs in the West. Joyce has a good arm, can start and is a lefty. He has little to prove at the NAIA level. It’s time for him to step into pro ball.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions
20. Dan Jensen-RHP-Cincinnati.
He’s 6-foot-8, 225 pounds and the No. 14 prospect in Ohio. From Centerville, Jensen is a transfer from Sinclair CC. He threw 89 innings, gave up 87 hits, struck out 79 and had a 3.11 ERA this season. He was 4-2 with a 4.02 ERA in 2010. In 2009 he was 1-0 with a 1.89 ERA and 18 Ks in 23 IP in the Alaskan Summer League. He struck out 11 and gave up no earned runs in a victory over Georgetown.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:33 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
He’s a big-bodied guy who has had some success. Nothing wrong with that. That he’s a hometown product doesn’t hurt, either. Jensen has posted at least decent numbers everywhere he’s pitched.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's been a too long since our Cincinnati-based team had a Cincinnati guy on it
Unless I missed something, Griffey was the last.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 9, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're right.
Man, there have been some great ones.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We've drafted a few in the past few years, but none have made the jump yet
Matt Klinker is the only one I can think of, and I thought we signed Joel Bender last year but I don’t remember seeing him pitch yet. And then there was Cam Satterwhite, the former UC guy that played with us for a while but was released at the beginning of this year.
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by BK on Jun 9, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't Cammy Cam destroy the ball while he was around?
that’s a shame he disappeared.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
For a while, yes
Then he cooled down and really, really sucked.
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by BK on Jun 9, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He's playing for the Rockford RiverHawks now.
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21. Carlos Gonzalez-RHP-Cal State-Northridge.
BA ranks Gonzalez the No. 79 prospect in California. He went 1-4 with a 5.36 ERA. In 45 1/3 innings over 10 starts and 17 games, he allowed 56 hits, walked 28 and struck out 35. A transfer from Pierce JC, he’s a native of Granada Hills, Calif. He was his high school’s MVP all four years he was there. Gonzalez was highly touted out of Pierce JC, but shoulder stiffness slowed him significantly this season.He was 7-4 with a 3.09 ERA at Pierce.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:34 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
The Reds selected this guy off what he did before this season. When healthy, he has a live arm and athleticism. He could be a very nice pickup in the 21st round, if he signs. Good roll of the dice.
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22. Amir Garrett-LHP-Findlay Prep.
The most intriguing pick the Reds made, Garrett has signed to play basketball at St. John’s. He’s a top 80 basketball prospect and a tremendous leaper. He, however, loves both sports and has said he plans to play hoops at St. John’s and baseball with the Reds. Garrett (6-6, 195) reportedly floated a $1.5 million price tag, but even if that’s true, as a two-sport athlete his signing bonus may be spread over five years. Garrett consistently throws 90 to 94 and has hit 96. He has a promising changeup and a useable curve. A great athlete, Garrett admits that "baseball is my first love" he told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. In fact, Garrett has played baseball longer than basketball. Findlay Prep doesn’t have a baseball team, but Garrett has overwhelmed scouts in multiple private workouts.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:35 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Fantastic pick! Absolutely fantastic! Six-foot-6, hard-throwing, projectable, athletic left-handers with the ability to spin a curve ball don’t come along every draft, let alone ion the 22nd round. The Reds did their homework, here. He’s not as polished as Robert Stephenson, but has potential to be a front end starter.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I really hope he signs (which it seems like he will)
and that he sticks with the Reds. This could be a HUGE steal
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
How does the whole thing work with being a college student/basketball player and playing minor league baseball at the same time?
It should be interesting, at the very least.
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plays summer league
which is usually done by September anyways. May miss the first couple weeks of classes. Basketball doesn’t start until October (?) anyways, officially.
It’s not a dumb move by Mr. Garrett. Making it in basketball is very, very, difficult. Only two rounds in the draft, 15 guys to a team and all. He’s smart to keep with baseball for as long as he can and see what happens.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
Right.
It is a little risky though, especially with the money he’s getting. Lucas O’Rear, the Reds 13th round pick last year, did that at Northern Iowa but hurt himself playing basketball and is missing this whole season.
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by BK on Jun 9, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think he'd be better off named Miles O'Rear.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
I woulda gone with "buckets"
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 10, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or "Dat Ass"
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23. Sal romano-RHP-Southington HS.
A fresh-armed kid from Connecticut, Romano will be difficult to sign away from Tennessee, although the Vols coaching change could factor in. Just 17, Romano wear a size 16 shoe. He offers plenty of projection and throws in the low 90s. BA ranks him the No. 4 prospect in Southern New England. Romano has a feel for a curve and a changeup. His delivery will need to be smoothed out. Romano said he expects to decide by next week whether to accept the Reds offer or head to Knoxville. He came back from a broken jaw, the result of a line drive last summer, to go 7-3 with a 2.12 ERA and 51 strikeouts in 58 innings.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:36 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Another excellent pick of a player who dropped because of signability concerns. He sounds as if he’s at least open to signing with the Reds. I’m happy to see the Reds make a run at guys such as this rather than just draft organizational soldiers to fill rosters.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions
24. Nick O'She-1B-Minnesota.
There has been talk of trying O’Shea behind the plate, where he made seven starts this season. A red-shirt junior, he could be motivated to sign. The No. 7 player in Minnesota, O’Shea is an engineering major and highly intelligent. He went 7-34-.299/.343/.500 this season, down from 11-44-.287 as a freshman and 13-60-.360 as a sophomore. O’Shea has some pop. He hit 31 home runs in his college career.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:37 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Sounds like a clout or an out guy as a pro. Maybe the Reds will try him at catcher, where his bat wouldn’t have to play up as much as at first base.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Production Decline Explanation
You mention O’Shea’s decline in production, yet fail to mention that Minnesota played just 49 games this year (and O’Shea played 44), which is down from the Gophers’ average of about 60 games played. The collapse of the Metrodome roof had a major effect on Minnesota’s season, as the Gophers had been scheduled to play 31 games there this year. The other obvious reason for the slight drop in production is due to the new bat standards in NCAA baseball. To give you a number to digest, Minnesota hit 89 home runs at the height of the live bats (the -5s) in 1998, and this year the Gophers hit 16 (O’Shea with seven of those). He’s a great kid with a sharp mind (I think he was a 3.8 student in mechanical engineering), and he’ll be good for any clubhouse as he tries to make his way up.
Thanks for the input!
Sounds like you know a lot about him, do you know him by any chance?
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25. Justice French-RHP-Mercer.
A 6-4, 215-pounder, French is the No. 33 prospect in Georgia, according to BA. He’s an extreme groundball guy, allowing just one home run in 80 innings. This season he went 6-2 with a 3.26 ERA. In 15 games, 14 starts, and 80 IP, he allowed 93 hits, struck out 59 and walked 19. As a junior he was 2-2, 6.33. As a sophomore, he went 3-4, 6.34. He pitched a bit as a freshman, but also played the infield. He’s a senior and a psychology major from Suwanee, Ga. French’s sinker is a quality pitch in the upper 80s. His slider is improving. His control is strong and he is poised. French survived melanoma, a dangerous form of skin cancer that claimed his best friend in 2006. While playing for a summer team in Minnesota, he got homesick after landing in a host home infested with ticks and returned to Georgia. The tick situation led to French shaving his head. A small nick didn’t appear to be a big deal until his mother noticed it wasn’t healing. It was malignant melanoma. A 4 ½ hour surgery and 17 staples later, the cancer was removed. French returned to the field and owns victories over Georgia and Georgia Tech this season. Mercer has offered him little run support or his record would be even better.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:39 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
OK, I think we have a kid for whom we can root. The kid sounds like a legitimate pitcher, too. I love his determination, ground ball abilities and that he’s improving.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
26. Juan Perez-2B-College of the Canyons.
A transfer from Mission College, Perez (6-3, 183) is the Western State Conference, Southern Division player of the year. He led his team in nearly every offensive category, going 2-35-.400/.480/.564 with 15 stolen bases in 17 attempts. He fielded .946. He played at Reseda HS.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:40 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle''s Take:
College of the Canyons has produced five big leaguers, including Bob Walk and Dana Eveland. Perez probably is more of a longshot, but he has some size, speed and has hit at the small college level. Even if he’s organizational roster filler, you have to have nine to play.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
27. Trevor Wrenn-2B-Tampa.
The Reds liked Wrenn enough to draft him twice. Cincinnati took him in the 33rd round out of Lakeland HS, but he opted for Manatee JC, from where the Padres selected him in the 25th round. Wrenn chose to go to USC, then transferred to Tampa. He is ranked by BA as the No. 83 player in Florida. A sports management major, he went 1-18-.341/.394/.518 this season. He is 21 and a junior. Wrenn went 1-8-.258 in 17 starts as a sophomore at USC. He was 7-49-.386 as a freshman at Manatee. While at home in the offseason the year he played for USC, Wrenn had an allergic reaction to medication and had a seizure while driving. Hjs car hit a tree and he spent two days in a coma. Doctors gave him a 10 percent chance of surviving. Survive he did and returned to the baseball field after transferring closer to home.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:42 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
All right, another kid with a story of survival we can get behind. Wrenn was a highly rated prospect coming out of high school and junior college. A wiry kid, he lost 17 pounds during his ordeal and that took a toll. If he regains his strength, the Reds could have a talented youngster.
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28. Yordanyz Perez-OF-No school.
A 27-year-old Cuban defector, Perez was drafted out of McAllen of the North American League, an independent baseball league. Since he established citizenship in the United States and hadn’t played professionally what MLB recognizes as organized ball here, he was subject to the draft. Perez played for the Ciego de Avila Tigers in Cuba’s highest league as recently as 2009. He is a 6-foot-1, 200-pound switch-hitter who established residence in Miami. Baseballdecuba.com didn’t consider Perez to be one of Ciego de Avila’s star players as recently as 2008.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:43 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Maybe he’s one of Aroldis Chapman’s buddies? There’s not much out there on Perez. At 27, he’s old enough for, well, a major league roster. He’s not going to start his pro career in Cincinnati. A scout saw or heard something. I’m eager to find out what it is, but don’t hold much hope that Perez will be an impact player.
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29. Dariel Delgado-RHP-No school.
A 17-year-old who played in the Miami Dade Baseball League, a year-round wood bat circuit featuring players of a variety of ages, Delgado is from Coral Gables, Fla., by way of Cuba. Perfect Game reported that he has a medium athletic frame with some present strength, a tall delivery with good hip turn, high three-quarter’s delivery to overhand release with nice downhill plane and a loose quick arm. Delgado throws and upper 80’s fastball that has touched 90 mph. He reportedly throws three quality off speed pitches. His changeup has big tailing action. He has a good feel for locating low in zone. Delgado’s slider has nice sharpness, His curveball has big 10 to 4 sweeping action. Delgado has a good idea how to pitch.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:45 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Delgado performed well against older competition and sounds as if he features an exciting collection of pitches. The Reds South Florida scouts appear to have dug for this kid. If he is as talented as he sounds, those scouts are earning their money. I like the creativity the Reds have used in this draft.
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30. Joe Terry-3B-Cal State-Fullerton.
A broken hamate bone cost Terry most of his season. The 21-year-old went 0-9-.257 after coming to CSFU as the No. 2 junior college prospect in the country, behind only Bryce Harper. Terry (5-11, 185) hits left-handed. An eighth-round pick of the White Sox in 2010, Terry was a Mariners 17th-rounder in 2009. He features plus-plus bat speed from a very unusual crouched batting stance. He hits the ball hard, but can be fooled by offspeed stuff. BA ranked him 91 in the nation in the preseason. Terry suffered a shoulder injury at Cerritos JC, but has recovered. Terry was a high school teammate of DeSean Jackson of the Philadelphia Eagles and went to the same school as Tony Gwynn, Chase Utley and Milton Bradley. Terry plays hard and is a savvy hitter. He hits well to the opposite field.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:46 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Terry is a very talented player who profiles as a second baseman as a pro. The 30th round probably wasn’t what he envisioned and he could be a tough sign. Hamate injuries, though, often take a year from which to fully recover, so even if he returns to Fullerton he might not boost his stock much.
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31. Erik Miller-RHP-Texas Christian.
A power arm, Miller pitched mostly out of the pen, going 7-7 with a 4.63 ERA. In 79 2/3 innings, he allowed 88 hits, walked 18 and struck out 58. Opponents batted .289. In 2010 he was 1-1, 4.67. In 2009, he was 0-2, 4.50. BA ranked Miller the No. 100 prospect in Texas. He pitches off his fastball and has performed well in summer leagues in Alaska and New England. TCU used him as a starter, a middle reliever and a closer. He projects as a reliever and scouts think he could thrive with his low-to-mid-90s fastball in a bullpen role.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:47 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Miller probably can improve his draft position by returning to the Horned Frogs next season. His numbers aren’t as dominant as one might expect from someone with his stuff. If he signs and is used strictly in one role – likely in the bullpen – maybe he thrives.
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32. Michael Dennhardt-RHP-Boston College.
Considered by scouts one of the top pitching prospects in New England before undergoing Tommy John surgery that cost him this season, Dennhardt throws 92 to 94 on a good downhill plane. He has a developing change. Dennhardt was impressive in the Cape Cod League, going 2-3 with a 2.76 ERA in eight start after his freshman season and 2-3 with a 1.80 ERA after his sophomore season.. He’s likely to be expensive, even with the injury. A 17th-round pick of the Mariners out of Don Bosco Prep, Dennhardt was projected as high as the fifth round before his injury. He was 1-2 with a 5.89 ERA in 18 innings this year before being shut down. In 2010 he was 4-7 with a 7.22 ERA. In 2009 he was 5-2 with a 4.96 ERA.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:49 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Dennhardt has been much better on the Cape than at BC. Buying him away from the Eagles won’t be inexpensive. He might well opt to return next April or May and try to better his position.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
YEAH BC
Brian B and I are rooting extra hard for this guy
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
Good program.
I was talking with a former BC kid - Pat Moran- a couple of weeks ago after a chapel at the ballpark. Very nice kid.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 3:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I was friends with Terry Doyle when I was there
who may or may not still be in the White Sox (?) system, and he was a great guy. Tony Sanchez, however, the Pirates first-round pick two years ago, is a total jackass.
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
Kevin Moran
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33. Steven Selsky-RF-Arizona.
Selsky’s dad, Steve, played in the minors with the Dodgers and White Sox. A 6-1, 205-pound junior, Selsky missed the early season with a broken hand suffered when he was HBP. BA ranks him the No. 50 player in Arizona. Selsky was a 34th-round pick of the Rockies as a draft-eligible sophomore. He was All-PAC 10 last year. In the Cape Cod League last summer Selsky went 4-18-.273. He struck out 36 times and walked 19 with six doubles in 121 at bats. This season with Arizona, he was 2-11-.215/.311/.388. Selsky was 3-for-4 in stolen bases and never got in a groove after his injuries. He was All-PAC 10 in 2010. For his career, Selsky has 18 home runs and a .330 batting average.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:50 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Selsky probably can move up the draft board with a strong senior season, but he’ll be 22 in July and might want to consider getting his pro career started. This was a lost season for him, but he’s a talented youngster with some power and bloodlines. He’ll need to reduce his strikeouts to have a chance.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions
34. Bryson Smith-CF-Florida.
Smith, a 30th-round pick of the Indians in 2009, began his career at Augusta State before transferring to Young Harris JC, then to Florida. A DUI arrest in April delayed the start of his season. A native of Watkinville, Ga., Smith played 3B as a junior and made a few appearances in RF. He tied Nick Markakis’ home run record (21) at Young Harris. Smith hit .255 as a junior, but .282 in SEC play. His .989 fielding percentage is impressive. Smith posted a line of 2-19-.305/.418/.418 with 21 strikeouts and 13 walks. He was 6-for-10 on stolen bases. Smith began to heat up late, being named to the All-SEC Tournament team after going 9-for-22 (.409) with three RBI and two doubles in five games. Last week, Smith went 6-for-11 and scored six runs as the Gators won the NCAA Gainesville Regional.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:52 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Smith’s DUI arrest doesn’t bode well and it set him back this season. His late-season surge is a small sample size, but promising. Smith has some power and is a strong fielder. He could be a sleeper source of power.
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35. Sam Kimmel-C-Indian River State JC.
A second-team all-conference pick, Kimmel began catching this year for the first time since he was 12. He has played shortstop and reliever and went 0-23-.361/.426 with 17 doubles and three triples. Kimmel threw seven mediocre innings out of the pen. Kimmel has a strong arm and some hitting aptitude, but little power. He is from Palm Beach Gardens, Fla., and has signed at Stetson.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:53 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
The kid probably goes to Stetson, but has some potential. He’s athletic, strong-armed and can hit, although the lack of power is a concern. Kimmel’s a project who could take a while to develop if he stays behind the plate.
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36. Randy Yard-RHP-Hawaii.
Yard is a 6-foot senior from Los Osos, Calif. He went 3-0 with a 1.88 ERA in 14 games, three starts, struck out 33 in 38 1/3 innings and walked 17. Yard allowed 3 home runs and foes batted .209. He began his career at Riverside CC, transferred to Central Arizona JC, then to Hawaii.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:54 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
The Reds likely got a few good looks at Yard while scouting Kolten Wong. His numbers are impressive and he made three late-season starts, so maybe the Reds see him in that role. If not, he appears to be at least a serviceable reliever
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37. Michael Suiter-CF-Punahua HS.
BA ranks him the No. 5 prospect in Hawaii. He was slowed by a sprained knee this spring, but is an above average runner who can stick in CF. His compact swing produces gap power. He has signed with Santa Clara. A right-handed bat, Suiter had scholarship offers from several more prominent programs, including USC and Hawaii. He went 2-14-.447 this season and was a second-team all-stater.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:55 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
The knee injury really slowed Suiter, who is an interesting prospect. He’s athletic, can run and projects to hit for average. He’d be a nice sign, but will cost more than slot. How much he’ll cost will determine whether he signs.
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38. Daniel Bowman-RF-East Carolina.
Perfect Game ranked Bowman the No. 27 draft prospect prior to the season. Frankie Pilere rated him No. 87. He didn’t make BA’s Top 200. Scouts say Bowman has 60 power on the 20-80 scale. He has fine speed and a RF arm. His glove is excellent. In 2009, Bowman went 13-54-.333 with 14 doubles and three triples to earn freshman All-American honors. That summer, he was the Valley League’s top prospect after batting .298 with 34 RBI and stealing 13 bases in 15 tries in that summer circuit. He was voted the No. 1 pro prospect in that league. In 2010, Bowman went 15-63-.279 and stole 8 bases in 11 attempts. He was 5-19-.202 in the Cape Cod League, but displayed impressive power. He struck out 29 times and walked five in 119 at bats. An honor student, Bowman has above average speed and plays well in big games. He’s only the eighth player in Big South Conference history to hit double-digit home run in three consecutive seasons. The toolsy Bowman hit 12 this season, 15 as a sophomore and 13 as a freshman. Bowman had an 18-game hitting streak this year and posted a line of 12-59-.277/.340/.508. He was successful on 11 of 13 stolen base attempts. Bowman struck out 43 times and walked 18 in 282 at bats.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:56 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
A Coastal Carolina OF who drops to the Reds. Dave Sappelt, anyone? Bowman has more power than Sappelt, but isn’t nearly the hitter the current Reds farmhand is. Bowman could benefit from taking more walks, but his power is legitimate and so is his glove.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That's exactlywhat folks asked about Sappelt.
Bowman swings and misses quite a bit. Scouts like his power, but aren’t sure he’ll hit enough. Good gamble at this spot. The hardest things to find are quality starting pitchers and legitimate power hitters. I’d always try to find a couple of guys such a’s Bowman in a draft.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
39. Justin Amlung-RHP-Louisville.
A Reds fan, Amlung’s a 6-4, 174-pounder and No. 2 starter on a strong U of L staff. He went 5-1 with a 4.01 ERA in 2009. In 2010, he was 5-2 with a 4.27 ERA, allowing 72 hits with 55 Ks in 65 1/3 IP. A graduate of Louisville’s St. Xavier HS, Amlung walked on, taking the spot that opened when Jake Odorizzi signed with the Brewers instead of accepting a scholarship from Louisville. More of a thrower than a pitcher early in his career, Amlung has improved dramatically, especially with his command. He throws a 90-93 m.p.h. fastball and a solid slider. This season, he was 10-2 with a 2.26 ERA. In 75 innings, he allowed 65 hits, struck out 34 and walked 13. Foes hit .236. Amlung had one save.
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Turtle's Take:
Amlung’s favorite player is Barry Larkin. A call from the future Hall of Famer could go a long way in helping convince Amlung to sign. I’m not sure he will. He can better his draft position next season, but by how much? He has a chance to sign with his favorite team. Unless Amlung thinks he can go in the top 10 rounds next year, why not sign?
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40. Sam Travis-3B-Providence Catholic.
Travis plays 3B and works out of the bullpen. His high school has six NCAA Division I baseball signees. A native of New Lenox, Ill., Travis has gone 15-72-.504, with 16 doubles and three triples this season. He began the season with nine consecutive hits. Scouts were somewhat surprised that Indiana landed him. Travis is known for his bat, sound defense, strong arm and maturity. He batted .486 with 32 RBI, 9 doubles and 3 triples in 2010. He hit .488 on the summer showcase circuit.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 5:59 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Travis is from the same home town that produced Cingrani. Travis won’t be cheap and his coach appears to think the slugging third baseman will head to college. I’ll be surprised if the Reds land him, but he has the bat to make them consider a serious offer.
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41. Carson Baranik-RHP-Parkway HS.
Considered the premier HS pitcher in Louisiana by some scouts, Baranik’s fastball hit 95. He then hurt his arm and dipped into the upper 80s. He’s an LSU signee and those aren’t easily pried away. Baranik is 6-3, 205 and ranked by BA as the No. 13 prospect in Louisiana.He backs his heater with a curve and a change, both in the high 70s. Improved physical conditioning last summer helped improve his game. Baranik’s delivery gives scouts pause. He has a head whack and some recoil that need corrected. There is a lot of effort to his delivery. He’s a hard-working kid eager to learn.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:01 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Highly unlikely to sign, Baranick’s a fine prospect. The effort in his delivery and the flaws that come with it likely will prevent the Reds from offering big money. Baranick’s an injury risk who could benefit from going to LSU.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions
42. Jacob Stallings-C-North Carolina.
Stallings is very strong defensively and is stellar in controlling the running game, having thrown out 31 attempted base stealers this season, but his bat is a huge question. In 392 college at bats, he has five home runs. This season his slash line is .272/.389/.400. In 2010 he went .307/.417/.457. In 2009 he was .246/.366/.263. His dad is Vanderbilt men’s basketball coach Kevin Stallings. BA ranks Stallings the No. 16 prospect in North Carolina. He’s big for a catcher — 6-foot-5, 215 pounds – and has gained 30 pounds since his freshman season, but it’s been good weight. He also plays first base.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:03 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
This is a guy who can have value if he can hit .230 as a big league backup. Stallings is strong behind the plate and his arm might be the best in the country. If he returns to college and gets his batting average up or increases his power, however, he could go in the top five rounds next season.
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43. Ty Washington-SS-Plano East HS.
Washington is 5-foot-10, 160 pounds and profiles as a 2B or OF. Lean and athletic, Washington is ranked No. 105 in Texas by Baseball America. He has decent arm strength. Washington has run a 6.71 60 and a 4.89 40. He has some pop from the right side and is smooth in the field. Washington’s bat speed is impressive. He has signed with Oklahoma and San Jacinto JC.
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Turtle's Take:
Washington isn’t a blazer for a little guy. He is athletic. Washington is likely to head to college or junior college and take his chances in a year or two.
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44. Shon Carson-CF-Lake City HS.
Carson is one of the University of South Carolina’s prized football recruits. He’s a hard-running, 5-10, 190-pound running back. Carson likes baseball, though, and has played extensively on the summer showcase circuit. Carson’s baseball skills are raw, but the potential is there. He has a stiff swing, but great speed. He’s considered the top athlete among draft eligible high schoolers in the Palmetto State. The Gamecocks promised to let Carson play both sports. He’s strong, has good hands and excellent first step quickness. Carson wore a Reds cap at his pro day, but is expected to enroll in summer school in July, which would end his chances of signing with the Reds.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:05 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Another two-sport athlete who can have his bonus spread over five years, Carson is a terrific athlete. He’ll be difficult to sign unless he’s overwhelmed by an offer. Expect to see him running for Steve Spurrier this fall.
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45. Travis Radke-LHP-Oaks Christian HS.
Radke is a University of Portland signee. He’s a 6-foot-4, pitchability left-hander. His fastball is in the 87-90 range and his changeup is promising. Radke features strong control, a curve he can throw for strikes and has the arm speed to make his change effective. Radke gets good downhill plane on his fastball. A series of minor mechanical adjustments could give him a jump in velocity. Radke struck out 272 in his first 201 high school innings. His arm works well and he has upside.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:06 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Radke won’t be an easy sign. A tall lefty with room to fill out, he’s different than most pitchers the Reds selected. He’s not a flamethrower, but makes pitching a craft. Radke offers plenty of projection. I’d like to see him sign.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Any relation to Brad?
That’d be swell.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 9, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
that was my thought
seems to pitch like Brad, too.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
I immediately thought that, but
I haven’t found a connection to him. I think Brad still lives in Minnesota and this kid is from Southern California.
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46. Jose Brizuela-3B-Archbiship McCarthy HS.
Born in Venezuela, he moved to Florida at age 8. This season he went 6-34-.466 with 11 doubles, 3 triples, 20 stolen bases. He also was 1-0 with a 1.80 ERA and two saves. He whiffed 23 in 11 innings and reaches 92 with his fastball. Brizuela went 3-34-.500 as a junior. His team won back-to-back state titles. Brizuela has signed at Florida State.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:07 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Brizuela will be difficult to sign away from the Seminoles. He’s a package of enticing tools with a strong bat. In three years, he could be a premium pick if his power develops.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions
47. Jon Pellant-2B-Chandler-Gilbert JC.
Pellant is a Marshall signee. He was recruited for football out of school and is athletic. He goes by "Kirby" and is the 39th-ranked player in Arizona. Pellant is 5-foot-10, 166 pounds. His dad, Gary, is a scout for the White Sox. Pellant was a 38th-round pick of the Dodgers in 2009. He’s a left-handed hitter and a high- character kid.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:08 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
: I’d hate to see the Reds take a recruit away from Marshall. After having eight players drafted, the Thundering Herd can use some replacements. If Pellant goes to the Reds, though, I’d be OK with that. He’d benefit from a college weight program and could improve his stock against Conference USA competition. Pellant is a member of Fellowship of Christian Athletes, so I get him if he winds up in Huntington.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions
48. John Webb-LHP-South Carolina.
In 20 games, 15 out of the pen, Webb is 3-1 with a 3.21 ERA. In 33 2/3 innings, Webb has struck out 28, walked 15 and allowed foes to bat .250. He has extra leverage as a draft-eligible sophomore. Webb is 6-6, 225 pounds.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:09 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
: Webb almost certainly will return to the Gamecocks. He has two seasons to improve his control and his draft stock. He’s an impressive lefty, though, who would be a fine addition to the Reds organization.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions
49. Eric Alessio-RHP-Marist.
Alessio didn’t pitch last year because of Tommy John surgery. He is 6-foot-1, 195 and from Nyack, N.Y. Alessio is a reliever who was 1-3 with a 4.13 ERA in 2008. He slid that in between seasons of 8.22 and 6.51. This season, though, he made a jump, going 4-3 with a 2.27 ERA. In 18 games, 13 out of the pen, he threw 43 2/3 innings, struck out 38 and walked 12 while allowing opponents to hit .255. Alessio began the year as the team’s closer, then moved into the rotation.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:11 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
A fifth-year senior, Alessio should be an easy sign. His improvement this season was encouraging.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
50. Austin Robichaux-RHP-Notre Dame HS.
Robichaux willl be a tough sign, as his dad is the pitching coach at Louisiana-Lafayette. The No. 10 prospect in Louisiana, Robichaux is 6-foot-5 and 180 pounds. He is very projectable. His fastball sits in the upper 80s, but has sneaked into the 90s. He has a good feel for a curve and understands pitching.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:12 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Turtle's Take:
Good arm. He’s very unlikely to sign.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Second'd
This is a more thorough draft report than you’ll likely find on any other website on the entire interwebs. A thousand kudos.
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Good lord
GREAT job, TT. Out of curiosity how many throttling violation/spamming messages did you get while doing this? :)
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All kinds of computer craziness took place.
I couldn’t let it get in the way of providing my friends a report on each player. You folks deserve the best!
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what is a throttle violation?
tried typing it into google about a week ago but didn’t get a good answer.
If you post a bunch of comments in a row the system flags it as a possible DDOS (distributed denial of service) attack
The throttling policy says that you can only post x comments in y timeframe. If you exceed that it’ll tell you to cool your jets. If you post over five links in a comment it automatically flags the comment as spam. I have five spam flags received, all but one for stuff like this. The other was obc being a douche.
And before you ask, you haven’t received any flags of any kind. :)
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I came here looking for Turtle's Take on Travis Radke and was so disappointed :(
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by jch24 on Jun 9, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ah, and now you have it!
Sorry I skipped that. The process got hairy there for a while!
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just giving you a hard time buddy, this is amazing work
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As per usual, excellent work, TT.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 9, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions
Awesome job.
I read every single one. Amazing.
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Rec'd
I don’t think this could have been done any better.
We need Brandon Larson to Play 3rd! Can't be worse than Rentawreck, right?!?
by BiggerRedMachines on Jun 9, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions
Wow, thanks, I can't wait to look this over! A great resource.
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Only word for it.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 9, 2011 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
Great Job TT
Nicely detailed
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My God, this is unreal.
I’m just glad you picked RR as your main blog; that’s the only way I found it. I just have no clue where you find all this stuff. I’m pretty much in awe.
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Baseball America likes the Reds draft,
Calling it “solid.” They loved the Stephenson pick. Garrett, Rosa, Wright and Buckley were praised selections, too. They liked the Reds “portfolio” approach, spreading around hitters and pitchers, preorders and collegians, high upside guys and safe picks. BA Aldo likes all the hard-throwing guys the Reds drafted.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
"prepsters" and "also"
I hate typing on my phone.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't it seem like there's a higher proportion of guys who are unlikely to sign than in years past?
It seems like there’s a solid base of signable guys here, and that we’ll probably luck out and lure a few of the others away, but can we realistically expect around 35 (total guess) signs like we had last year?
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by BK on Jun 9, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I figure they'll sign somewhere around 25.
Some of the HS kids they can play against one another in negotiations. Kind if a “the first one who agrees to sign gets $200,000. The other guy goes to college.”
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, it seems like the Reds need fewer "organizational soldiers" than in years past
Think about all of the good young talent that hasn’t even debuted yet. This is a crowded system.
I think it’s brilliant to aim high and go after guys you really want, not guys who you know will never make it past AA. If they can get 25 guys but 15 are legit prospects, that’s fantastic.
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The more I hear about him the more I like the Stephenson pick.
At the risk of asking a dumb question sounding like an idiot (I have zero knowledge of this stuff,) what do you think his ceiling is? Is he a potential ace type or would you project him as more likely to end up in the middle of a big league rotation?
I know it will be a while before he’s here and he obviously doesn’t solve any pitching situation for 2012, but it would be nice to know we have a guy with ace upside in the farm.
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Absolutely ace upside.
He has potential to be a 1 or a 2. BA thinks so, too. A lot can go wrong between now and 2015, but the kid really has great potential.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Echoing TT
He already has a very good fastball, and scouts think his curve ball and changeup have the potential to be plus pitches as well. Any pitcher who throws mid-90s with 2 above average secondary pitches can be an ace.
The other determination is command and control, which he seems to be OK with right now.
The problem with a HS pitcher is that he has almost no performance against good competition. You have no idea if he’ll be able to get advanced hitters out, or if he’ll keep his command as the strike zone shrinks in the upper minors. Then there’s the injury risk. A lot can go wrong there.
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Am I wrong in seeing him as a Homer Bailey-type?
As I recall, when Homer was drafted his curve was better than Stephenson’s, but the lanky projectableness and the great fastball remind me of Homer. Hopefully Stephenson moves quickly like Homer does, but adjusts better to advanced hitters.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 10, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
That's probably a good comp
I didn’t follow the Reds nearly as closely when Bailey was drafted, so I can’t remember what else Bailey threw at the time.
Seems like Stephenson’s attitude is way better than Homer’s was too, so that should help him.
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That comp in the ballpark.
Homer was more highly regarded, but they’re similar in their stuff.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Homer was a lot higher pick too.
Shows how deep this draft was that Stephenson has similar stuff and is considered a fair pick at 27 when Homer went 7th overall.
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Great work, Turtle. Best I've seen.
It seems like there’s a lot of college transferring going on. This is something that tends to raise red flags in other sports. Is there a reason that there’s so much of it?
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by poojols on Jun 9, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The rules are different in college baseball.
You don’t necessarily have to transfer down a level to be immediately eligible. You can’t transfer within the same conference and be eligible right away. If a school grants a release, you’re pretty much free to go anywhere that will take you.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bookmarked for future reference. Once again, great job, TT.
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Thanks for all the kind comments.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 9, 2011 9:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
John Sickels of minorleagurball.com:
Stephenson is the headliner here and could make or break the draft by himself. The rest of the class seems focused on affordable players with a mixture of upside (the junior college guys) and polish (Wright, Green). It would be a real coup if they can sign Covington and/or Garrett.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 13, 2011 9:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ben Badler at BA writes
he expects the Reds to be active internationally this July than last, although he doesn’t link Cincinnati to specific players. The 2011 international class is more highly regarded than 2010. Baskets expects the Red Sox, Royals, Pirates, Rangers and Blue Jays to be active as well.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 13, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
BA's assessment of the Reds draft:
Cincinnati Reds: Robert Stephenson is the first high school pitched the Reds have picked in the first round since Homer Bailey in 2004. He’s the highest-ceiling player in a solid draft class, as after him, the Reds took a portfolio approach, mixing upside (second-round Puerto Rican outfielder Gabriel Rosa, 22nd-round wild card Amir Garrett) with safe picks such as Louisville infielder Ryan Wright (fifth round) and a slew of hard-throwing college arms. They also selected power-hitting corner bat Sean Buckley, son of scouting director Chris, in the sixth round.
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