Giants Series Preview
The Reds begin a dreaded West Coast Road Trip today, and start things off with a four-game series against the defending champion Giants. The Giants went through a rough stretch that "ended" about a week ago, losing 6 of 8 and falling briefly out of first place in the NL West. Entering the series, however, they have a two-game lead over the Arizona Diamondbacks. BPro puts their postseason odds at 88.4%, which is the second-highest in baseball. The Reds are up slightly at 12%.
They are an interesting team. FanGraphs wRC+, which adjusts for park, ranks their offense dead last in the league. This is especially true now, as they are without the services of Buster Posey, Pablo Sandoval, Brandon Belt, and Mark DeRosa. None are expected to return for the Reds' series, though Sandoval is expected back next week and could potentially make a surprise appearance.
It's good that they have that weakness, because their pitching is amazing. Their starting pitching ERA- is better than their xFIP-, which happens pretty much every year and is probably due to more than just the fact that their park is not conducive to the home run (though we don't know what, in fact, is the deal). And that starting pitcher ERA- is, in fact, the best in the league. Similarly, their relief pitching is also outstanding by all accounts. Fielding-wise, they are probably somewhere in the vicinity of average, so the Reds can make up a little bit of ground there.
Probable Starters
As always seems to be the case when comparing the probable starters, their pitchers look better in each of the matchups...although in the case, aside from Leake vs. Lincecum, they don't look like huge mismatches to me. Perhaps the biggest story here is Ryan Vogelsong, who came up to replace Barry Zito. Prior to this year, Vogelsong last appeared in the major leagues with the Pirates, and spent 2007-2009 in Japan. Last year, he returned to throw in the Phillies and Angels organizations, and tallied much higher strikeout totals than before, as well as a lot of walks. This year, as a 33-year old, he's pitching his brains out doing his best Colby Lewis impersonation. I'm going to be driving to Florida the day he pitches, so I'm disappointed to miss him...I'm curious. And I'm also sort of hoping it's the Reds who benefit when he turns back into a pumpkin. :)
I'm also interested to see what happens in Volquez vs. Sanchez. Lots of K's, lots of walks...hopefully Volquez can carry forward something positive from his appearance vs. the Cubs.
Bullpens
For the most part, these are pretty similar pens. Brian Wilson's certainly the better pitcher, but he and Nick Masset's peripherals are dead ringers for one another (though obviously Masset's results aren't anywhere close). The biggest difference maker is Sergio Romo, who just seems like a monster. If you're into projections, look up Romo: he ranks with the best relievers in baseball, on a per-inning basis. The interesting thing to me about Romo is how he is used, in that he has a LOOGY usage pattern: every year, he appears in more games than innings pitched. I don't know why this is the case, but I'm sure someone around here does.
Lineups
Much like the Cubs, the Giants have an edge on the Reds at SS and LF, but that's it. They've gotten good production from Cody Ross and Andres Torres, as well as Freddy Sanchez, but otherwise this lineup is filled with miserable seasons. Aubrey Huff had a 3-home run game last week, but otherwise has been dreadful all season. Pat Burrell may appear in left field, but they appear to be afraid of his defense (rightly so) and so are favoring Schierholtz.. I do expect to see Pat the Bat in the lineup when Travis Wood pitches, however, because otherwise this is a pretty lefty-heavy lineup as currently constructed.
Another interesting note: we could well be seeing the end of the road for Miguel Tejada. Prospect Brandon Crawford has hit better than Tejada while Pablo Sandoval is out (of course, so has Paul Janish!), and rumor has it that Tejada may be benched once Pablo returns next week.
Handicapping it...
So, it comes down to the Reds' offense vs. the Giants' pitching. Or, the Reds' bad pitching vs. the Giants' bad hitting. I love the big four Giants' starters (minus Vogelsong), but I think Reds have a shot here. Four reasons:
- Vogelsong isn't as good as he's shown (I think).
- The Reds miss Matt Cain (yay!).
- The Giants' offense is even worse now than its dreadful season totals would indicate, and probably is at its low point on the season because of all the injuries.
- The Reds' pitching has more upside than what's left of the Giants' hitting.
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I realize it's a standardized stat
and that it’s over something like 10 plate appearances, but seeing a -72 wRC+ is more than a little amusing.
Well done as usual!
I know, I lol'd
In the last one, someone had a -100 wRC. I think he’d yet to get on base. ;)
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DeRosa
Oh how I remember the too-doo about this guy being traded by the CFs and finally going to the WLBs … I was led to believe he was the reason for the season.
I’d rather have Miggy Cairo.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
To be fair
DeRosa was actually quite good back then. But I agree that at this point I think I might actually rather have Cairo as well.
Trying to decipher the lingo
I got the WLB’s. Not sure on CF’s.
DeRosa’s no great shakes by any means, but he’s probably better than someone on their bench (at least).
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CF's are the Cubs
It stands for “People who enjoy relations with common farm fowl”
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It just seems there was a lot of handwringing ....
I never saw DeRosa as anything but a decent utility guy.
Actually, the CFs did get a pretty nice instant return on that. I don’t follow those players now.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
If I am reading that chart correctly, Cody Ross is currently the best hitter in their lineup
What did we get for him?
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 9, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
Well, I hope they bought something nice with it
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 9, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
100 Swedish Fish,
or 100 sour patch kids
or 4 chic-o-stiks
or 50 peach rings
or….
Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson
... or 2 used popsickle sticks.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
Well I think the dollar will buy you the popsicles.
How you make the popsicles melt is up to you.
Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson
So, he is worth as much as Jason LaRue?
Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson
I feel good about all of these matchups.
Obviously their pitching is far superior, but our staff’s two big weaknesses—walks and homers—shouldn’t be as much of an issue. One, the Giants, as a team, don’t like to walk much. (3rd fewest in the NL) and homers aren’t as easy to give up in that park.
And the way the team has beat up on a bunch of aces recently (Phillies, Braves, Dodgers) no opposing pitcher really scares me that much.
I’m predicting they take 3 of 4 and this series begins a huge surge for the team.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
Getting to skip Cain in four-game series is also a stroke of luck
by ken on Jun 9, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They deserve it after the straws they drew in the PHI, ATL, and LAD series.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
and the NEXT LAD series
which will be the same damn pitchers. Fuck the Dodgers.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
Let's hope their inclination to not walk ...
… isn’t enhanced by our pitchers’ inability to throw effective strikes.
Seems that’s where we end up with problems. Ballpark size big or small, groover pitches on 3-0 counts with the bases loaded tend to land in the bleachers.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
If the Reds can go something like 5-2 in this trip, that'd be tremendously tremendous.
That would mean beating Bumgarner, Sanchez, and Vogelsong most likely. I think that’s manageable. If the Reds can beat up on the soft tossing lefty (even if he’s my beloved soft-tossing lefty) and get to the pen early, it could be huge in a short series. If Volquez can be good happy fun time Volquez, it’ll shut the door and let the Reds get into LA relatively unscathed. The pen is rested after the Cubs series.
I’m very optimistic about this. Let’s hope I have reason to.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
If they can go 4-3 on this trip
It’ll be tremendously tremendous.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 9, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I like this goal
realistic, but difficult
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
I am seeking retribution for last year's trying series in SF.
"The Reds have started 2011 the way they ended 2010!"
clearly
We need to get some pitchers with funkier names. Amusing as “Leake” and “Wood” are, they can’t hold a candle to “Vogelsong,” “Bumgarner” and “Lincecum.”
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
No doubt you would have enjoyed this fellow.

Initial reaction to the Posey injury by the fellow who runs the Az. Snakepit:
"Hahahahahaha! Suck it, Giants fans. Suck it long. And suck it hard."
by Jim McLennan on May 25, 2011 11:24 PM MST
Jim McLennan: all class.
Minus a couple of consonants.
by victor frankenstein on Jun 9, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Thems are euphonic as hell
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 9, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Our AAA are better!
What with LeCure, and Rhinekinky or however you spell it, and Hynock and Valiquette.
I think Hynock and Valiquette would make a good law firm.
Reineke pitched today
Hynick yesterday.
LeCure pitched in relief today. I almost didn’t recognize him. He’s got so shaggy since spring training.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
im guessing it's almost a guarantee Renteria starts tonight
sheesh 1015 start time, this is gna be a late one
yup
Stubbs 8, Phillips 4, Votto 3, Bruce 9, Rolen 5, Gomes 7, Renteria 6, Hernandez 2, Cueto RHP
Giants lineup:
Torres 8, Tejada 5, Sanchez 4, Huff 3, Schierholtz 9, Ross 7, Crawford 6, Whiteside 2, Bumgarner LHP
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I doubt he's 100%
but maybe there’s some revenge juice flowing.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 9, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
time off seems to do him good
Maybe he’ll have a monster night! Cozartian, even.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
"Rolen, Gomes, Renteria..."
and Hernandez is batting 8th?
Sonofabitch this is anger inducing.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Idea!
The Louisville Bats for Lincecum straight up.
"The Reds have started 2011 the way they ended 2010!"
fuck yes!
Edgar has his Rising in San Fran.
On the other hand there will be some entertainment value is Softie facing Lincecum.
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
And, as always, the Stubbs vs. Lincecum showdown
which I can’t imagine matters at all beyond this blog.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 9, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
why does it look like our bullpen has been so good
when it feels like it’s been so bad???
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
Recency bias
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