Well, you can't sweep them all. Cubs win, 4-1.
by Gray on Jun 8, 2011 3:57 PM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
I'm going to have to give this one to Paul Janish, who hit his first triple in the major leagues. Sure, he made up for it with an error that yielded an unearned run, but whatever. An honorable mention goes to Ryan Dempster, who only gave up three hits and one walk in six innings. The Cubs bullpen also pitched well, throwing three scoreless innings.
Key Plays
- Bronson Arroyo got off to a good start, only allowing one hit in the first three innings. The Reds, meanwhile, loaded the bases with one out in the first, but didn't score. The Reds did score in the third, when Drew Stubbs singled to lead it off, stole second, advanced to third on a Brandon Phillips groundout, and scored on a Jay Bruce single. Reds lead, 1-0.
- That didn't last long. In the top of the fourth, Darwin Barney grounded out and then Blake DeWitt reached on a Paul Janish error. This proved to be not at all good when the next batter, Carlos Pena, hit a HR. Aramis Ramirez made it back to back HRs, and the Cubs were up 3-1. At least Arroyo didn't allow any more runs to score, even though he gave up two more singles in the inning.
- Janish's triple was the only hit the Reds managed in the last six innings of the game. The Cubs scored one more run in the seventh, when Kosuke Fukudome doubled, advanced to third on a bunt, and scored on a Jose Arredondo balk. Seriously.
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I'd have given it to Bruce.
Only RBI, only Red to reach base twice. Also, Janish’s error was bad, and another ball ate him up later that inning that he could’ve had.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
by nycredsfan on Jun 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Positive reinforcement for Janish!
He’s a good kid.
"The Reds have started 2011 the way they ended 2010!"
janish's error led to the 3 runs
And he gets star of the game?
Rec’d!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I thought you'd appreciate it!
Yes, Janish caused three runs to score and lost the game for us.
Still not a candidate.
That error has created more discourse than any fielding blunder ...
… had this been a single off his noggin, Pena would have come up with a man on base.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
janish's error led to the 3 runs
And he gets star of the game?
Rec’d!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
stupid mobile rr!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no idea if you guys have talked about this yet
but this is stupid on a fucking epic level: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2011/06/08/ludwick_could_be_available_to.html
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 8, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions
Heisey for a Ludwick rental is not something I can see Walt going for.
"The Reds have started 2011 the way they ended 2010!"
that makes the Padres better and the Reds poorer
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
ugh... i guarantee with equal playing time they would perform the same, but Hi-Z would play better D
"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24
Follow logical progression
1. Identify sucking teams
2. Identify personnel on said teams
3. Establish that sucking teams are looking for cheap prospects
4. Identify position where veterany guy with established stats plays and is currently NOT on the DL.
5. Identify position on your own team you’d like to improve.
6. Propose the trade.
Lucky for the Reds, all the following lead us to … ta-dah … Ludwick.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
Only guy I've seen available I liked at all was Josh Willingham
though I wouldn’t want to give up much for him
So Rolen has a viral throat infection
I was amused by Dusty’s quote: "It’s not strep throat as diagnosed by Scott.". I think it’s offensive that Dusty got a second opinon—clearly Rolen is qualified to make medical diagnoses.
sore throats are the worst
when i have one all i want is death or at least to be unconscious. I can’t even sleep with one, they are horrible.
I don't argue I correct.
if sore throats are that bad
Don’t have kids. That’s good advice!!!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i don't want to have kids
because they are generally assholes and annoy me.
I don't argue I correct.
the "relationship doctor" who spoke at my freshman orientation said the same thing to me...
people keep saying this to me…
I don't argue I correct.
You know the simplest solution to dealing with a sore throat?
Ibuprofen. I don’t know why I never did it before. I used to just agonize through them. But, a little pain killer makes them much more tolerable.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
i had one and happened to have some left over vicodin around
didn’t due shit.
I don't argue I correct.
Alright brainy a-holes:
I liked this article on the wrongness of naming Bill Simmons’s new website after Grantland Rice. I don’t know a heck of a lot about the history of sportswriting, but thought this was a very good piece:
http://deadspin.com/5810019/why-grantland-rice-sucked
Sort of appropriate, I guess, because Bill Simmons and his extraordinary (and self-satisfied) verbosity seems to be the dominant style today, even among some people I enjoy reading (Poz).
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 8, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
Simmons can be great, and he can be awful
But the Grantland site definitely has promise. But I must say that I loved the Deadspin article too
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
In a battle between Simmons and Deadspin, I'll abstain.
I would prefer Posnanski doing a website full of the best sportswriting, because Posnanski isn’t the petulant type who will snub people who offend him and think that only his world is relevant. Of course, Posnanski would never do it because he’s too self-effacing. But reading Posnanski on soccer, a sport which he knows very little about, is as illuminating as his work is on tennis. He actually invests in his subjects. Bill Simmons talks about himself all of the goddamn time.
Simmons is a panderer, a CNN-type sports “guy” for people who think that longform = good. He doesn’t have the artistic style of Rice, and that’s cool. He doesn’t have to. But when Simmons tries to write emotionally, he sounds like a Southie Rick Reilly. When Posnanski wrote about moving to Charlotte, I had tears in my eyes. Simmons is maudlin and fratty, but he has no depth. If you want to get your news from CNN, stand in line for Water for Elephants, and read Sports Guy, fine. But that’s simply not pushing the medium forward.
I would love for Posnanski to somehow drop SI and join SBNation, and write with Spencer Hall, Jon Bois, and a couple of others. It would never happen, but it would make for better writing. Until then, bring on the Copperplate Gothic and talk about the first 200 pages of Infinite Jest.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
just because I'm not done
Deadspin, Simmons, et al reach for snark when they could’ve had soul. To actually be invested in individuals, to actually hope and yearn for something substantial, is too far for them. Instead they’ll mock those that do. Snark is effective when used the right way; Will Leitch was clever and as big a hater as there was, but he at least put his heart into The Buzzsaw That Is The Arizona Cardinals and somesuch. That’s all gone now.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
I thought that Grantland sort of spoke for itself when I first saw it:
Very nice front page, much more intentional design than you typically see. And a big frickin’ Subway ad smack in the middle of it all…
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 8, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
intentional design in that: intentionally getting pageviews and clickthroughs
not intentional as in: guides the reader through stories and lets ‘em know what they’re getting in each story.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
Sure, I was mostly impressed by the center alignment. But that is probably taken straight from McSweeney's.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 8, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i read a large article on simmons recently
Nytimes, I think. He was anti Grantland name, espn won the battle on that name,
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 9:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i know i'm in the minority
but i can’t stand simmons. his writing really bores me & he thinks it’s much smarter than it actually is.
his twitter account is the worst account of any national writer
by 'tHan on Jun 8, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i take it we dont consider doyel a "writer"
Even Egger bashed him this week for being ridiculous.
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 9:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
gregg doyel is definitely a writer
and he’s my favorite.
he was spot on in his question to lebron.
lebron’s performance in the nba finals has been terrible
and, to be accurate
You’re not a long reader type of guy. You like short blasts!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 9:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Discussion about Rice's style is one thing ...
But a headline that says “Why Grantland Rice Sucked” isn’t the way to promote yourself as having any ethics or credibility as a writer.
Truthfully, it might be time for people who want to express an opinion to start in the home office.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
Tommy Craggs is easily the best writer Deadspin has, though
Which might not be saying much, but trust me, he’s a really good writer
Fuck it, we'll do it live.
I thought the article was OK, just thought the headline wrecked it.
Journalists who want to be taken seriously need to find better headlines than … “Why Grantland Rice Sucked.”
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
It's not fair to compare Simmons (or anyone) to Posnanski
He’s in a league of his own. And maybe I’m holding onto outdated institutions, but I like that Pos is with SI. He’s been the best sportswriter around for a while, so he should write for a publication that has a wide audience and a venerable history. It’s also a minor victory for sabermetrics by giving a national profile to a numbers-friendly guy.
It’s easy to criticize Simmons, and I really can’t read him for anything other than basketball. I think he’s at his best when writes bullet points and short essays instead of feature articles. His basketball book has a similar format to James’ New Historical Abstract, with brief player profiles and a few essays. It’s easy to pick up and a fun read; nothing wrong with a little low/medium-brow reading every now and then. He’s certainly not the writer that James is, but that’s nothing to be ashamed of.
I remember reading Simmons when he first joined ESPN (~2000?), and to me it was a very fresh perspective. The breezy style, unabashed homerism, and pop culture tie-ins (some of them forced, admittedly) was still uncommon on the national scene. Some time after he moved to LA he became a parody of himself, and he really hasn’t done much writing since he started the podcasts a couple of years ago. He’s not moving the medium forward any more, but I think his influence on sports blogging is undeniable – for better and worse. I haven’t seen anything about the Grandland site, so I’ll reserve judgment on that. But if deadspin is against it, I’m inclined to give it a fair shot.
by ken on Jun 9, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
James = Joe? As in Posnanski? Right?
And yes, I agree about him being great when he started off. He was young and creative and different. Now he’s a man. He’s 40. He’s, as you said, a parody. And even worse, he’s thin skinned, taking a guy out of his book because that guy didn’t like the book. That’s bush league.
Moreover, his basketball book was 1/3 the book FreeDarko’s was. I don’t even like basketball and I read theirs in one sitting. I can’t make it past the 6th page of Bill’s
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
Wow, Janish?
The fucking goat of the game, this must be some sort of joke.
If it weren’t for his and Arredando’s terribleness the score would have been 2-1 and the game would have been a little more interesting.
Also Gomes is a talentless hack who brings 0 value to this team, he sucks. Why the fuck was he pinch hitting against a tough right handed relief pitcher in the 8th inning with two outs and no-talent assclown on third base after he some how hit a triple.
Dusty should be fired simply for using Gomes in that situation.
I don't argue I correct.
especially when everyone and their mother knew Marshall, a lefty, was coming in next.
Put in Heisey against the righty, keep Gomes on the bench for the righty. Doesn’t seem too tricky.
Coming into this game, Super FLewis was hitting .238/.273/.317 and there’s no reason to keep that around.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
It sucks having both Lewis and Gomes on the roster
Lewis is marginally more valuable because he can play defense. But really if we can’t make a trade lets get Frazier and Alsonso up here and get rid of both Lewis and Gomes.
I don't argue I correct.
I'd love to have Francisco catch fire in Cincinnati as well, but that just complicates things doesn't it?
"The Reds have started 2011 the way they ended 2010!"
END was the Taco Bell K-Man of the night
I thought for sure that would mean free tacos for the good people of Syracuse. But no. He didn’t strike out once during the game. And hit a monster home run. (I think it took out a small neighborhood.)
Frazier has only pinch-hit (and coached first base) the past few days. I’m wondering if he’s injured.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
If Fransisco catches fire at the ML level the complication will be that the team will go bankrupt because there won't be any fans at the stadium
They’ll all be busy stockpiling rations and munitions for the impending apocalypse.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
This from Fya:
Twenty-six of the 31 games leading into All-Star are against teams with winning records. Sixteen of the 31 are against teams currently in first place.
"It’s not going to easy," Arroyo said. "nobody’s handing up anything. We’ve got a nice long stretch here that’s going to be a dogfight to beat some of these good ball clubs."
It would behoove the Reds to play well in the series in San Francisco.
"It’s a huge series, especially when you’re going to World Champions," Dusty Baker said. "They’ve got excellent pitching. They’ve got a good ball club. We’ve got to play our best baseball. There’s no way around it."
Thus we head out west with:
Rolen day to day
Renteria day to day
A Gomes/Lewis platoon that’s not working
No Bailey
At least Volquez provided a spark last night. The rotation is still wobbly, but perhaps starting to find its center.
I hate SF, I hope their fans get to enjoy a sweep by the Reds.
"The Reds have started 2011 the way they ended 2010!"
I hope Gomes crashes their catcher
otherwise he has no redeeming characteristics.
I don't argue I correct.
he'd actually have to get on base to do that...
or not (cueto’d)
Just got back
I sat in sec 109 where, surprisingly, there was a nice shade. Game was mostly forgettable, but Janish hitting a triple is easily one of the best things I’ve seen at a Reds game
Fuck it, we'll do it live.
i move in the 4th over to like 106 or 107
we were in the top row and assholes kept standing up, and the fucking usher kept blocking our view so we moved to were we could see.
I don't argue I correct.
Sounds like that usher wasn't really paying attention to the game, if you know what I mean.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 8, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
actually he was just bullshitting with a guy in an aisle seat...
If he was eying some moronic cubs fan, I would probably be a little less annoyed.
I don't argue I correct.
janish hit a triple & the word "play" wasn't after it
by 'tHan on Jun 8, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so am i
but Gomes came in and provided order and struck out on a breaking ball.
I don't argue I correct.
id vote yay
No brainer
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Jun 8, 2011 9:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i don't think it is as bad as others do
but I wonder if you play Heisey everyday how much more valuable Ludwick would be, I would want to do it for somebody other than Heisey. I am not sure who that player is though, maybe Janish!
I don't argue I correct.
this is how i feel
but this wouldn’t be much worse than Dickerson for Edmonds.
I don't argue I correct.
But seriously, somebody (Madville) needs to kidnap Gomes
it would be for the best.
I don't argue I correct.
It's to the point where Hamilton is kind of like a circus act as much as a prospect
Am I the only one to feel this way?
On Twitter he noted that his goal is to get to 50 SBs before their all-star break.
A good circus act is worth the price of admission, I’ll take it.
by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 8, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
him and END should form some Captain Planet sort of thing
Daniel Dorn can take a walk, Henry Rodriguez will be the contact guy, and Corky Miller can be Heart and/or Beer.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
by Cy Schourek on Jun 9, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It certainly feels that way, although he's been hitting a LOT better lately.
.941 OPS in his last 10 games.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
um..what is this?
How many of you on here would openly kiss your dad on the lips. This just flat out seems strange to me. My dad would kick my ass if I tried.
isn't that pretty old?
Cultural differences. No biggie.
In some arabic cultures, the fathers will kiss the penis of baby boys. Someone did it here and the world nearly fu’ing ended.
You should have left that morning, should have left that day
take your love and your child away
one of my coworkers
from the Dominican Republic said that in his culture, that was a common way to soothe a crying baby – kiss its genitals. He knew that would result in jail time here in the US, and found it quite bizarre.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I think the alternate ways to keep a baby from crying ....
… might mitigate the risk.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
You got the Waners, you got the Bells, you got the Boones and now the Gaedel(e)s
Eddie Gaedel bloodline lives on in professional baseball:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Not-a-gimmick-Padres-draft-great-nephew-of-Eddi?urn=mlb-wp8821
You should have left that morning, should have left that day
take your love and your child away
Interesting story.
I live in Valpo. Wish I’d followed this team closer. It’s only about 2 blocks from my house.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
Ewok/obc2 was one of two people smart enough to pick the cubs yesterday ...
…. his score was the closest … point to you, sir
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
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