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WIth the 27th pick, the Turtles select ...

  The ever-hyped, much-anticipated time has come for the Turtle to hand his card to the commissioner and hear his pick announced to the world, changing the course of Major League Baseball forever!

   OK, so maybe it’s not quite that earthshattering. Today, though, I’ll reveal whom I think the Reds should select with the 27th overall pick in Monday’s MLB Draft. Keep in mind, No. 27 is way down the list. In real time, I might well like someone else, depending on who slides and who is picked higher than anticipated.

   Before I make the selection, however, let’s review how well the Turtles and Reds have dueled since 2000. Last year, I frowned at the choice of Miami C Yasmani Grandal, preferring Ohio State RHP Alex Wimmers. While the jury remains out, Grandal has performed reasonably well in High-A. Wimmers, on the other hand, faced six batters this spring and walked all of them before being shut down. Wimmers’ inexplicable case of the yips has the Twins wondering if they have a Steve Blass/Rick Ankiel situation without the major league history. Advantage Reds on that one.

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   The Reds and Turtles have agreed on the first pick three times since 2000: Homer Bailey in 2004, Yonder Alonso in 2008 and Mike Leake in 2009.

   Through the oughts, the Turtles have outdrafted the Reds from time to time: Jeff Francis over Chris Gruler in 2002 and Tim Lincecum over  Drew Stubbs in 2006. At times, the Reds held the advantage: Jay Bruce over Lance Broadway in 2005 and Devin Mesoraco over Kevin Ahrens in 2007. Mostly, it’s roughly been a draw: David Espinosa-Corey Smith (2000), Jeremy Sowers-Dallas McPherson (2001), Ryan Wagner-Conor Jackson (2003).

   This year, with the 27th overall pick, the Turtles select Tyler Anderson, LHP, Oregon.

   I’m fine with Kent State LHP Andrew Chafin, Alhambra HS RHP Robert Stephenson or Hawaii 2B Kolten Wong, as well. Of course, if a highly touted player drops because of signability concerns, that’s a whole other ballgame.

   I like Anderson’s ability to throw strikes with five pitches. He pitches off his fastball, which features above average movement. That’s a big thing for me. Straight fastballs tend to get hit the second and third time through the lineup. That Anderson backs the heater, which at 89 to 93 m.p.h. is plenty good enough, with an above average changeup is promising.

 

   Anderson isn’t afraid to throw inside, is a fine athlete and for a college pitcher still has plenty of projection. He has the command to hit the corners.  A junior, Anderson (6-foot-4, 215 pounds), he has gone 8-3 with a 2.17 ERA. In 107 2/3 innings, Anderson has allowed 73 hits, struck out 114 and walked 35. He has allowed just two home runs and foes batted .201.

   Anderson’s performance in the PAC 10 is encouraging overall. He didn’t pitch well against UCLA, No. 15 Arizona State or Washington State, but was outstanding against ranked teams in No. 23 Arizona, No. 20 California and No. 6 Oregon State this season, and beat No. 1 Arizona State and non-conference foe No. 4 Cal State-Fullerton in 2010.

   I’d certainly prefer a player with a vastly higher ceiling, but at No. 27 that’s not nearly as likely to come by as in the top 12, where the Reds have drafted much of the last 10 years. I like Chafin for his ability to possibly be a No. 2 starter, but have concerns about his injury history/potential. Anderson is a safer bet and the Turtles like that at this spot. Stephenson offers terrific upside, balanced by the risk that comes with high school arms. Wong is a fairly safe bat who could move quickly.

   My plans for draft coverage, if you’ll indulge me, are similar to what we’ve done before. I’ll be here Monday for updates and general discussion throughout the day. The Draft begins at 7 p.m. As the Reds pick is announced Monday night, I’ll provide background and thoughts.

   The same will take place Tuesday. The Draft begins at noon with picks 2 through 30. They’ll come in rapid-fire fashion and I’ll supply as much information as I can throughout. The same goes for rounds 31-50 on Wednesday.

   On Thursday, I’ll offer a follow-up on each pick with a “Turtle’s Take” comment on each player.

   Thanks for all the kind comments and for reading this stuff. It’s a lot of fun for me and you folks make it even better.

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As a college junior, I would imagine Anderson will be a guy who can make it to the majors relatively quickly.

Would I be right in saying that? Also, it sort of sounds like his ceiling is a #3 starter, which we already have quite a few of. Do you see him more as a guy who can be groomed into something special, or more of a solid middle of rotation guy whose value lies more in trade bait to a team with little starting pitching depth? Of course, with our depth dwindling down someone like him might be more valuable than many are projecting next year; that is, unless some of these guys truly show that they can stay healthy and actually be the #3 pitchers as this year goes on. I guess I can’t really expect a sexy potential ace at #27, but man, it would sure be nice.

I certainly like his size and frame, and the fact that he’s a lefty helps. Seems like it would be a pretty good pick to me.

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by sexsalad on Jun 5, 2011 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep, a solid mid-rotation type is how

I see him. There is value in that. Unless someone drops, I don’t see anyone we can point to and say, “Yeah, this kid’s a can’t-miss ace.” Someone might develop into a top of the rotation guy, but those guys usually go very early.

The Reds recent history suggests they’ll gamble on some high-upside high schoolers in the first 10-15 rounds and go over slot to sign them. I like that strategy.

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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 5, 2011 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

will i ever see a fucking ace on this team

or just a bunch of interchangable garbage.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 5, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll add a sleeper pick I like.

Trevor Story, SS, Irving (Texas) HS. I think he’s underrated. He’s toolsy and can stick at shortstop. Plus range, plus arm, bat speed, smooth in the field, above average speed. Has some pop, but scouts don’t know how much power he’ll have as a pro. I’d be happy with him.

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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 5, 2011 1:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

rhp henry owens, california hs

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by Ewok on Jun 5, 2011 2:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Owns could very well be the guy.

I’m not sold that he has the consistent velocity or projection as some of the other prep guys, but he is talented.

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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 5, 2011 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for all the posts TT, loved them all

I’d be good with Anderson or Stephenson, or with a high-upside guy who falls due to signability concerns

by pack_fan on Jun 5, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for all of this Turtle. I'll add another name to the mix

Frankie Piliere has reported he’s hearing rumors of the Reds taking Sean Gilmartin, LHP out of Florida St. I can’t find too much on him. He throws his FB 88-91, has a curve, slider, and change, all of which are about average right now I think.

His numbers the last 2 years are only meh but this year he has dominated. 16 starts, 113 IP, 122 Ks, 20 BB, 1.83 ERA.

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by nycredsfan on Jun 5, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I've looked at him.

For me, Gilmartin’s stuff is a little short for the first round. If they’re dead set on a college LHP, though, he or Osich might be the only real options.

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by Thundering Turtle on Jun 5, 2011 8:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually had a short twitter convo with Frankie Piliere about Gilmartin

and I’d be OK with that pick. He says that he and Anderson are very close in ability. Anderson has a bit more velocity but Gilmartin’s secondary stuff is better. He said Gilmartin’s curve ball is one of the best in the draft this year.

Plus, it’s hard to argue with his senior year numbers in a difficult league.

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Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 6, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

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