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Game 59 Part 3: The Sir Walter Rally Thread

Bonus baseball!  This one's still tied at 7.

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The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

So, I went over to one of my friend's houses from Mizzou.

He wanted to show me a weird insect he found. We’re both totally stumped on it. Check this thing out. So Weird.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I know what it is, Crolf.

The pin through its neck made that easier. It’s the Eastern Kentucy Pseudo Scorpion Mosquito.

Caliparius dissentaria.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah! Of course!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome job, Drew.

That’s defense that helps out.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Little league double play!

Time to end this.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I spent 4 hours at a little league game today.

During this, I really started to feel bad because of all those games I made my parents sit through.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

man, I love watching the little guys (and sometimes girls) play

"I love working on Saturdays!" - Some Liar

by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhahhhhhh

"I love working on Saturdays!" - Some Liar

by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do you usually roll up to the game in one of these?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was fine...

but it was really hot and the game went 12 innings (which sounds like child abuse). There about 500 “stolen bases” and 50 errors.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was about to say

a 4 hr little league game would be brutal

"I love working on Saturdays!" - Some Liar

by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game ended when the Paul Janish of the team

tried to steal 2nd with a guy already at 2nd. Coach ripped him pretty harsh.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i played a double header on a day like today

we had an extra inning game that was suspended due to darkness, and the coaches for some inexplicable reason decided that rather than pick up the game in extra innings, start it over again for a second game of the day.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to photograph Little League games

But if you don’t have a kid in the game, you can’t photograph them. They’ll think you’re a child molester.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just tell them you're there for the bugs

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mention bugs and the kids will either squeal or start looking around for them.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I forgot to tell you.

My dad always listens to talk radio and I heard them talking about a fundraiser called the Bugfest. You can go eat various bug dishes (all the chocolate-covered bugs and whatnot,) go to sessions to learn about them and look at them in tanks or something.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awesome!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Inouye

Really was there for the bugs!

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, then tell them you're a child molester and photograph them anyways.

They won’t do anything.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Child molesters are photographers too.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the one dad

that shows up to every game drunk

by kyleb740 on Jun 4, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little league parents are the worst.

Umping little league games SUCKS.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was really surprised how little these parents cared about

strike calls and shit. My father was horrible about it.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

we had one dad

that would sit in left field away from everyone. he did it by choice because he knew his temper

"I love working on Saturdays!" - Some Liar

by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

way down the left field line

i mean

"I love working on Saturdays!" - Some Liar

by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't if they just let kids play.

Kids don’t care if the ump is any good. They just want him to be the ump.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

my childhood was more recent than yours

and there was one umpire we all hated because he was so terrible.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was a total dick to the umps when I played.

Still am in rec league softball.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

my dad is an umpire

he can’t stand softball weekend warriors who argue like it is game 7 of the world series.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't argue.

I just kind of give them disapproving looks.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's rec league softball

Doesn’t make a whole lot of difference.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I called a UMP a "dickface"

He threw me out (not sure that was legal). Coach went off on him. Coach left the field and went to the concessions. It was awkward.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once got smacked in the arm in basketball (in all fairness, it was really bad)

and I yelled out, “Are you freaking serious?” The ref just told me to go sit down, which isn’t even legal in basketball. There were only 10 seconds left and we were down 15 or so, but still.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAH

In rugby you literally aren’t allowed to speak to the ref unless you’re the field captain, even if it’s just idle chat. I always open my mouth to bitch then realize I can’t.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were happy if an adult was around to even volunteer.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was making about $16 a game. Each game was an hour and a half.

Pay varied on experience where I was umpiring.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our lead umpire is a young guy. Probably just graduated college. He's damn good.

Probably going to at least get to umpire some minor league games.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure

His facebook page says that he GPBA and umpires college baseball games up to Division 2.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hated when kid's pitch started.

There was absolutely no limit to how high or low the ball could be, as long as it was over the plate (or close.) I would literally lay off pitches in the dirt and the umps would call them strikes.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i have kids

i am getting high for their little league games, school players, elementary school orchestra concerts, graduation, parole hearings, and soccer games.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Reds!

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

His brother Fidel knows the owner.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks grim for the CFs.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

If there's one guy I want up here, it's Jo-eh.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Joeh

one more time.

"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker

by featherman on Jun 4, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean, Votto HAS to be swinging 3-0, right?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus, BP.

That could have been awful.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does he think he's fast and shifty?

He’s not. He’s probably the 5th or 6th best base runner on the team.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope he isn't chatting and gets picked off.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope he isn't buddies with the SS.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Juan Castro?

He used to be a Red.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think these guys have seen BP run the bases lately.

They seem really worried about him.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Bruce takes this one into the seats.

(fair)

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

Kemp wasn’t helping there.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Rolen

Has really been struggling lately. Even Janish is hitting better.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

even Crolfer is a better hitter.

he has rec league experience!

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we had 3 guys who weren't slumping ...

all in the lineup at the same time.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

in play, fuckity fuck

"I love working on Saturdays!" - Some Liar

by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

God, I thought that was a hit off the bat.

It was just hit right at the 2B.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Carlos in...

Will God continue to hate him?

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.

by chesirecat on Jun 4, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Eat a dick.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jun 4, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Go sit down.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This will not end well

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.

by chesirecat on Jun 4, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

so

Whose throw day is this?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Dusty's

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jun 4, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Massets

"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker

by featherman on Jun 4, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Harang.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need a DP

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Who was it who wanted Fisher to pitch?

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

This sucks.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Nearer my god to thee

nearer to me.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

HA!

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh

So, maybe Carlos Fisher wasn’t a great idea after all.

Still tied in St. Louis.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus motherfuck.

All that goodwill from that one game is gone.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

We just got beat by freaking Manos de Oro and Pisswater.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Stop the fkn bleeding

"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker

by featherman on Jun 4, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Um ...

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and don't forget

Juan Castro!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kershaw always was tough on the Reds.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

So, Fisher to AAA?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If by AAA, you mean DFA, then yes.

He’s a giant bag of shit.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jun 4, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that would probably be a better idea.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we’re lucky. He about gave up a three run shot to Aaron Miles

by homerun21 on Jun 4, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Carlos Fisher on the first bus to Louisville. Pathetic.

by homerun21 on Jun 4, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like the other relievers have us in this mess.

Revising history to blame it all on Fisher is really missing the point.

So we just leave the guy out there.
Dusty manages like dogs fuck.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

he only has Horst left

who he probably wants to save for tomorrow’s disaster.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I AM laughing right now.

I don’t even give a shit. This team blows.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

... Umm, wow.

I think this one is solely on Carlos Fisher. He didn’t cover first?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The guy knows what to do.

Let’s just decide who’s responsible.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

another run! YAY!

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.

by chesirecat on Jun 4, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Aaaaaand Fisher didn't cover first.

Probably wouldn’t have gotten him anyways, but are you fucking serious?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Guerra has one at-bat this year. He walked on 4 pitches.

And this isn’t the fault of the coaching?
I guess not.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Dusty should either leave Fisher in

or realy embarrass him by replacing him with Janish.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Why even take him out?

Just have him take one for the team. He’s probably gone now anyways. No need to burn another reliever.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

christ in a cracker

Put Horst in. Put Janish in. Let Heisey pitch. This is brutal.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

You have a pitcher on the roster who can't get anybody out

Why on EARTH are we defending the coaching staff?
PRICE needs to go.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't it possible that the pitcher just sucks?

Because I’m pretty sure that’s the problem.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Cueto was great today.

if Price was so awful…Cueto would have been shitty.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's kind of my point.

It isn’t Price’s fault Fisher blows.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whose fault is it, Price apologist?

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Reineke?

You know damn well that 84 MPH fastball is in high demand.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Justin Lehr

Justin Lehr with the best pitching coach would be throwing rocks!

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awful lot of ganging up going on here, with some lame defense ...

… bad pitching is bad pitching.
When the pitching is bad, you can’t get better pitching, well … just keep coming up with excuse after excuse … whoa, he’s tired because he warmed up today …

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

what does this have to do with Carlos Fisher?

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to fix things that are not broken, get it?

Nobody needs to fix Roy Halliday. Carlos Fisher needs coaching.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Fisher needs to throw strikes

i think everybody knows that.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me take you deep into Johnu1's mind

Cueto is awesome because he spent time in Louisville with Ted Powers.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

BINGO!!!!!!

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then he should be in the minors.

This is the coach’s job to make him better. Why do you not see this.
Game after game after game, the relievers come in there with no clue, no preparation, they aren’t studying the hitters, don’t back up on throws, miss covering bases … these guys are in the majors and nobody is working with them.

Get past this and blame the people who are responsible.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don't have anybody better

Burton, LeCure, Maloney, and Bailey are all on the DL, while Volquez is in AAA forcing the Reds to have to dig deep into their roster.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Price was a great coach...

Maloney (ha!) would’ve been a cy young pitcher and healthy as an ox.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He still needs to pitch better.

Price is responsible for that.
Ted Power is what we need to fix this pitching staff.
Price needs to go.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Ted Power up here and watch this pitching get better.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you related to Power?

Because this is some kind of a fierce hard on here.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You prefer a mediocre pitching coach when a good one is in the system?

Dusty ought to be ousted too but we already beat that horse to death.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know enough to say Price is mediocre

he coached King Felix, and Dan Harren, and some other pretty good pitchers and is pretty highly regarded.

It is really easy to judge a manager we can actually see his moves, it is much more difficult to judge a coach because we don’t know what he does.

In 2009 everybody wanted to fire Brook Jacoby because the offense was so terrible, now they have great offense and Brook Jacoby is still coaching.

What I am saying is, it isn’t that fucking simple.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Felix and Harren were natural talent!

They don’t count. The pitching coach is only responsible if the guy has zero talent!

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You said it yourself.

THEY’RE IN THE MAJORS. You shouldn’t have to work with them on making routine throws to second, backing up missed throws and covering bases. When you’re an MLB coach you’re working with some of the best players in the world; you should be able to assume they know the freaking fundamentals of the game. Hell, college coaches shouldn’t really have to work much on that stuff.

The bottom line is that these guys need to step up and be fucking pros.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won't argue that bad throws or failing to cover is sloppy

But this is more than Fisher. I’ve seen relievers come in and bounce three or four up there, then groove one, give up a double, walk a .199 hitter and hope for the DP ball. There is no reason relievers should come in and squander a 4-run lead to a team as bad as the Dodgers.

This happens way too often.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have one of the better bullpens in baseball

it is also overused.

But over all Masset, Ondrusek, Arredndondodnodo, Bray, and Coco are pretty good. I don’t know what more that you want.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect Carlos Fisher to pay attention and pitch better.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we finish .500 then.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No but the bullpen is, and it's being poorly coached.

The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.

by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

LeCure and Chapman greatly improve this bullpen.

We get them back and the bullpen doesn’t have a soft spot.

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it does. Chapman isn't here because he couldn't pitch.

Ted Power may fix it.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Low leverage … we can’t even hold a 5-run lead in the 8th inning. Stop this low-leverage shit. The guy is earning 30 million dollars. If he can’t pitch in the bigs, leave him in AAA.

Low leverage, my ass … stop trying to cover your ass on this point of view, which is clearly wrong.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

the guy is also young and has a history of control problems

a command break down isn’t that surprising. He needs to go to AAA and work on his issues where he isn’t losing games for the Reds. Which is what he is doing, no different than any other young pitcher, how many players get the call to the big leagues and never go back down?

$30M or 30,000 he is a young raw talent, and all the coaching in the world won’t do what pitching regularly will, and he had failed so badly he couldn’t get that kind of work in the majors.

Or we send him out with tomorrow’s trash.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excuses.

If Ted Power weren’t immortal and had somehow died…Ted Power would still teach us the meaning of life and how to make Carlos Fisher a cy young pitcher.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell ya what, I will shut up about this and wait till August when I ...

… hear you all whining about the coach not having a clue.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

this is actually mlb the show, and price controls the pitchers, and Jacoby controls the hitters.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck it, I say let Joey pitch.

He’d probably be Cy Young level anyways. He’s good at everything.

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by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Sad to say, we lost him for nothing, and we could have used him.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that wasn't the reason he was waived

Danny Ray was waived to add Dontrelle Willlis to the roster. Then Willis ended up on the DL.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

Did Tom Cochran clear waivers?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Balk, lulz

We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad. Otherwise, you wouldn't have come.

by chesirecat on Jun 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, the Reds aren’t even trying anymore.

by homerun21 on Jun 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Balk two more times.

Just because it’s funny.

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by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Go get runs!

or not….doesn’t matter.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Hannigan fighting it out

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by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

and the Cards win

on a solo shot from Pujoles

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by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Right now, 2 hitters away from having the tying run aboard

This is why you don’t let Fisher wreck the rice.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Blech

Pujols with the walkoff homer.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Is Troncosco

the Blue Carlos Fisher?

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Even in absolute defeat...

Paul Janish refuses to contribute to this club. Ted Power Bless that man.

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

RBI isn't a contribution?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

But I do think you’re being ridiculous. Janish has been fine in this game. There’s a lot of things to complain about in this game, but Janish ain’t one of them,

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Janish is Juan Castro

a useful bench player.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look at the even bigger picture

Who do we have to replace him?

Hanley Ramirez ain’t walking through that door, and he’s been hitting worse than Janish this year anyway.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have nothing to replace him

which sucks, he has shown he is a quality bench player, he was useful last year and in 2009, and hit well enough to justify his spot.

But he seems so exposed playing everyday. Perhaps we need a better shortstop coach!

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll improve given time to adjust

This happens with everyone not named Joey Votto. They start scouting you, and making adjustments, and then you have to make adjustments in turn.

He’s not going to turn into Barry Larkin, but most teams are getting by with light hitters at SS.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is exactly what it means to become a pro

constant adjustments at the plate. he’ll get another hot streak this year.

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by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has a .251 OBP

even if he makes marginal improvements he will still be a terrible hitter.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll make more than marginal improvements

OBP has always been a strength of his, if you look at his minor league numbers. He’ll do much better than .251 given a chance. He had a .351 OBP in the minors so I think he can do much better than .251. It just takes him awhile to adjust to a new level. He really hasn’t had much chance to do that, since his playing time has been sparse before this year.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is like having a second pitcher in the line up

and i am all for giving people some time, but it is June, and the guy is what 28? It isn’t like he is a hotshot 22 year old prospect.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't have much a problem with Janish

but when you put it like that, it sounds like hell.

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by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

It’s not like we have any hotshot 22 year old prospects he’s blocking.

Given the problems we have with pitching, I’d rather have his glove there than Renteria’s. (Or SloCab’s – he’s sucking even worse this year, if Fangraphs is to be believed.) This team has problems, but scoring runs isn’t one of them.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frazier's minor league numbers are better than Janish's, he gives fielding that's pretty close and he is 3 years younger.

I’m not necessarily saying he’s the answer, but it’s worth a shot.

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by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Frazier just fine

But he is not a SS. He hasn’t played SS for three years. He’s been playing mostly LF lately, with some 1B and 3B.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleh, I was thinking of Cozart.

And after looking up his numbers, his offensive production would actually probably mirror those of Janish. My bad.

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by sexsalad on Jun 4, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frazier's not a SS, unfortunately.

His defense at the position would be pretty bad.

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by crolfer on Jun 4, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is the problem

there is nobody better to replace him. But having 3B, LF, and SS as offensive black holes is a problem.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 5, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

BF, these are the gurus of baseball knowledge

If they can’t be right, they will just mock your point of view.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christ, calm down

we are persecuting you.

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhhhh

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by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty gave up on this game and now it's winnable.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

w/e Justin.

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by johnu1 on Jun 4, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lewis in for Bruce?

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Jun 4, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 run lead

is that our crappiest margin to date for this year to blow on a loss?

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by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 4, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Great marketing promotion.

“Come for the stupid hats and pillow cases. Stay for the epic collapse”

by KSE on Jun 4, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

so Dusty some how managed to use 7 pitchers in 4 innings

that is pretty fucking special, is he fired yet?

Does Walt watch this and bang his head or think maybe I should take the lead out of Dusty’s pre-game meal and toothpicks?

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by Yossarian22 on Jun 4, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The fangraph of this one

should be interesting.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 4, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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by DustBag on Jun 4, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame the Fayplacement

Low-scoring game, my anklebone.

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