Fraternizing with the Enemy: Dodgers Edition
While I'll leave the stat-colored glasses to JinAZ (he looks way better in them anyway), I figured I'd try my hand at a series preview, with a little (read: a lot) of help from Mike over at the Dodgers blog Mike Scioscia's Tragic Illness, which is kind of like the sports blog equivalent of Mike Trout--SO HOT RIGHT NOW. Seriously, this guy is in higher demand than maid uniforms at a Dominique Strauss-Kahn poker night. Major thanks to Mike for taking the time to do this for me, and let's give him a big, warm, SFW Red Reporter welcome.
So without further ado, here's what he had to say (after the jump!)...
RR: We're approximately 1/4 of the way into the season, so who's your first quarter MVP? LVP?
MSTI: You remember Steve Lyons? He hit a robust .252/.301/.340 in parts of nine seasons in the late 80s and early 90s, but is mostly known for dropping his pants during a game and getting fired by FOX for making racially insensitive comments during the 2006 playoffs. Well, karma is biting us back for the privilege of having Vin Scully call our home games by having this lunatic call of the road games, and he’s just atrocious in every way. Basically, imagine all of the stupid things Joe Morgan liked to say, just coming out of a guy who was about 1% of the player Morgan was.
I bring this up because
As for LVP… well, we’ll get to James Loney in a second.
MSTI: Or as I once referred to the Gibbons / Marcus Thames / Tony Gwynn Jr. trio, "JaMarcus Gwybbons, Jr."
Sands’ overall line doesn’t look that great (.220 BA, 2 HR), but he’s really picked it up in May, with the second-highest OPS of any regular Dodger hitter. The power hasn’t been there yet, though he’s shown an excellent command of the strike zone, and considering how useless the other three have been, that’s progress. Even if Sands hasn’t blown onto the scene, the total lack of production from everyone else should make it a total no-brainer that he keeps the job for the rest of the year. Still, there’s some concern that they could send him back down anyway, because when you can hold onto several mediocre veterans, why wouldn’t you?
RR: What's the latest on the McCourt debacle? Are we going to see a reality show in the near future? (The Real Teamowners of Chavez Ravine?) If MSTI and Red Reporter pooled our funds, could we make a lowball offer?
MSTI: It gets uglier by the day, seriously. He’s now in the business of desperately trying just to make payroll every two weeks, and the only reason he made the May 31 bill was by calling in advances on sponsorship bills by promising future discounts. It’s an open question if he’ll make the next bill on June 15, but it’s even scarier if he does than if he doesn’t, because lord knows what he’ll have mortgaged to come up with that cash. Bud Selig has put a team in place to monitor all of the Dodgers’ spending, and when Frank’s not busy drumming up cash, he’s outright lying to the media by claiming he has a deal in place for TV rights with FOX that would solve all of the problems if only Selig would allow it. What he’s neglecting to mention is that his ex-wife legally owns 50% of the team, and refuses to approve the deal, so Selig really has nothing to approve.
Worse, the combination of a bad team, a criminal owner, and safety concerns over the Opening Day beating of a Giants fan have led to a massive drop in attendance this year. At this point, we’re openly rooting for McCourt to default on the next payroll, leading to MLB taking over the team. It’s a very odd position to be in, hoping your own team can’t make the bills.
RR: So far so good for Matt Kemp, is this finally his major breakout year? (And how is his CF defense looking these days?) As a follow up question, can we have Matt Kemp, pleeeeeeeaaasssseeeeee?
MSTI: The funny thing about Kemp is, everyone thinks that 2010 was some sort of major disaster for him. And sure, he played poorly in the field, had a low OBP, and set a team record for strikeouts. Definitely not good. But we’re not talking "Andruw Jones 2008," despite how people reacted to it, because if a 25-year-old who still hit 28 homers with an above-average OPS is a Chernobyl-level disaster, then I’ll take it.
As for whether it’s his breakout year, well, I thought his 2009 (26 HR / 34 SB / .842 OPS) was pretty good, but this year does seem like it’s going to be even better. And I’m proud to say that I was 100% confident that it’d happen (see #3) if only because the team finally is rid of the terrible Joe Torre-led coaching staff of years past, and imported Davey Lopes & Tim Wallach to join Don Mattingly on what is probably my favorite staff the club has ever had.
But sure, you can have Kemp. (FanGraphs thinks so, anyway) Just send us Joey Votto, Aroldis Chapman, Devin Mesoraco, and take the rest of Juan Uribe’s contract and the deferred payments to Juan Pierre, and we’ll call it a deal. [ed. note: I like FanGraphs' potential price tag much better]
RR: Whither James Loney?
MSTI: Short answer: he sucks.
Long answer: he really, really sucks.
Longer answer: he’s been a huge disappointment, obviously, and no one quite predicted just how bad he’d be this year. Here’s the thing, though – he’s never really been that good. Baseball-reference has him at 3.5 WAR over parts of six seasons. Six seasons! I’m pretty sure that Jose Bautista racked up 3.5 WAR while I was writing this sentence. Loney really enticed us in short stints in 2006 and 2007, where he came up and pounded the ball, giving everyone hope that the power that was never really there in the minors would come as he grew up. But you know how long ago 2006 was? You guys still had Eric Milton and Brandon Claussen in the rotation, and Scott Hatteburg was your starting first baseman. Loney’s never really shown that kind of skill again, with three very mediocre seasons in 2008, ’09, and ’10. He was more or less an average major league hitter in those years, and that’s fine as a shortstop, but with the monsters who occupy first base around the league, that made him one of the worst first basemen around. But since he racked up shiny, sparkly RBI in those years, thanks to the guys on base ahead of him, people attached value to him that was never there.
He’s got one year left of arbitration and is almost certainly in his last year with the Dodgers, but I think some team could buy low on him and be surprised; as I wrote at Baseball Prospectus in April, he’s got massive splits both in terms of home/road and lefty/right. Used correctly, he could show some value. Just not for my team.
Hey, you want him?
RR: Should I pick up Jamey Carroll for my fantasy team?
MSTI: Does your league count OBP? Then sure, his eligibility at 2B/SS/3B is nice. If not, then probably not. His batting average is pretty empty.
RR: How would you grade Donnie Baseball's job so far as manager? He seems to have a case of the Dusty's sometimes when filling out a lineup card (Juan Castro at 2? Really?), but it'd be interesting to hear it from a Dodgers' fan's perspective.
MSTI: I suppose the right word here is… "acceptable." When he was hired, the big concern was his total lack of experience, and even moreso, how much being the star pupil of the Joe Torre School of Inefficient Management would rub off on him. But I think his youth has really served him well, as he’s been able to relate to the players far more than the ancient Torre, and from day one in camp he was clear about his intentions. I’ll grant that there’s been a few hiccups along the way (the day he brought Castro in to pinch-hit with the bases loaded rather than Jerry Sands just killed me) [ed. note: I think we all understand how frustrating that is, with a certain incident involving Josh Hamilton still fresh in our collective memory], but I do think he deserves a massive mulligan for the ridiculous amount of injuries this team has suffered. The proposed starting infield of Loney / Uribe / Furcal / Blake have played together all of twice so far, and Broxton, Kuo, Padilla, and Hawksworth all got hurt within ten days of each other. The fact that this team is even still afloat is a credit to him.
RR: Who are you most afraid of on the Reds, aside from Joey Votto?
MSTI: Does the idea of Aroldis Chapman throwing a 104 mph heater through my nasal cavity count? If not, then I’ll have to go with Johnny Cueto, because ending an opponent's career with a kick to the face is pretty metal. [ed note: glad you went metal here, and not "bush league" or "dickish." Also, I think if Jason LaRue had had a particularly violent sneezing fit his career might've ended too...]
RR: Who is your favorite player on the Reds?
MSTI: Other than Votto, who’s a beast, I’ve always enjoyed the Mohawk-wearing, heart-attack-surviving, lefty-destroying ways of Jonny Gomes. Particularly when he’s trying to play defense, which would be well-served to come with the "Yakety Sax" soundtrack.
RR: As a relatively impartial observer, what are your thoughts on Brandon Phillips? How about Chris Carpenter?
MSTI: Phillips is a tad overrated, though I suppose getting any power from a middle infielder these days is a bonus. Mostly, I like how much his use of Twitter confounds Dusty Baker. I think Chris Carpenter is a cyborg sent back by Skynet to kill us all, based on how many times he’s been injured and then returned even better.
RR: And finally, put your GM pants on. Propose some trades, just for fun.
MSTI: You guys have a quality team, but the starting pitching just isn’t cutting it right now – and neither is Paul Janish at shortstop. When the Dodgers are 15 games out in July, we’ll solve both of those problems for you by trading Hiroki Kuroda and Rafael Furcal for some youth, preferably in the Mesoraco/Yonder Alonso range, but I’ll take what I can get.
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RR has done a number of these, but this has been my favorite, by far.
Well done, both of you.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
Agreed, I love these things.
This was a great one.
-j
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Nice
It’s refreshing to have somebody write these things to be informative, whimsical, entertaining and insightful. I ran out of adjectives. This has always been my idea of Internet journalism, just to answer the question that I am sometimes asked.
The baby under the basket is a very powerful talisman, only to be used in times of great distress.
Loved it. Great job, guys.
"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24
i wouldnt mind Furcal at all
Provided they’ve got solid injury insurance on his salary.
He’s always hit well in Cincy, and it would probably mean Renteria would get DFAd. Heck, send Janish down, call up the Coz, trade for Furcal and have an upgrade party!
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 3, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah
No thanks on Furcal. He’s hitting like Janish at the moment. While he might improve, I don’t seem him as being much better than Renteria.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Renteria? really?
He got off to a typical slow start and then broke his finger.
Last year, he put up a full season OPS+ or 125 and 22 steals…Renteria hasn’t ever done that, much less a year ago.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Furcal is an interesting idea
I think he’s much better than EdRent, as KMiB said, he’s been injured so his numbers are lowish right now. he’s been hitting well lately. I wouldn’t want to give up too much for him though.
furcal didn't play a full season last year
He did in 2009, but his numbers weren’t that good that year, and I can’t help thinking it’s related.
I think Renteria has the same problem. He can play well, but not every day.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I can understand how frustrating it must be to watch James Loney get worse every year
He really is useless at this point. BTW, 2007 BA ranked Votto and Loney at nos. 43 and 44.
This was a fun read
and I haven’t been keeping up with the Dodger situation very well so it was informative.
I'm surprised the guy didn't get super excited/giddy/even mention Clayton Kershaw
But great work, Weezy. I’ve always been a believer that life’s more fun when the Dodgers are good. I’d like for the Reds to meet them in the playoffs and go all 1995 on their asses.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
Glad everyone's enjoying it
But all credit due to Mike. Great answers!
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
by UncleWeez on Jun 3, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In a perfect world we would get Kershaw and Kemp for sure!
Kill two birds with one stone….or like 6 majors ready prospects.
We need Brandon Larson to Play 3rd! Can't be worse than Rentawreck, right?!?
by BiggerRedMachines on Jun 3, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
Somebody please explain this to me, using small words....
This article mentions trading these guys in July “When the Dodgers are 15 games out”. Why aren’t the Dodgers trying to trade them now?
Do they think they’ll get a higher price in July? I suspect that’ll be fire sale time. Furthermore, I suspect they’ll have fewer people interested. Right now, for example, the Pirates have to be thinking that with a little boost they could be in the playoff hunt all season. In a month, I seriously doubt they’ll feel the same way.
Are they worried about attendance? Let’s say they traded Kemp for Dontrelle Willis, Juan Francisco, and Yonder Alonso. All three would be in the bigs immediately. Wouldn’t fans pay to see the new guys? This would be especially true if one of the guys got hot.
Do they think they’ll make the playoffs? With them barely able to make payroll? I don’t see it.
Waiting a month means another million out of McCourt’s bank account with nothing to show for it. If they’re going to do a deal, why not do it now?
I completely agree.
However, I think the conventional thinking for most GMs is that they don’t want to look like they are giving up on the season. They are afraid of the PR and attendance problems that will cause.
However, in this case, with the team such a mess, I think it would make a lot of sense to fire sale now.
Of course, the flip side is that there might be a lot of potential buyers who aren’t sure they are buyers yet. The Pirates could be an example of this. As could the Marlins.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
I somehow doubt the Pirates will be buying much
Even if they continue to play well, the ownership there seems content with making money from revenue sharing, and I doubt they will add much in the way of payroll (perhaps a mid-level player with a smaller contract, just for appearances).
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 3, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree
It makes a lot more sense for a buyer to get a guy now and enjoy him for four rather than two months. I guess selling GMs think that they can get more people in on the bidding when there’s the pressure of a deadline, though.
by ken on Jun 3, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It must be really frustrating being a Dodgers fan right now
As bad as the whole Marge Schott debacle got, McCourt is even worse. And Good Lord, it must be awful to go from Vin Scully to Steve Lyons. Vin is, i my opinion, the greatest of all time, and Steve Lyons is, well, Steve Lyons.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
wow
The stuff about the team finances is amazing. I heard there were payroll issues, but I didn’t realize it was that bad. And I thought the Mets were screwed up. Holy geez.
And I hadn’t realized the Bryan Stow beating had affected attendance.
BTW…who’s the wise guy who voted for Aaron Miles?
I, of course, voted Other. My favorite Dodger is their 1998 first round draft pick.

I’m also fond of Don Drysdale. Mainly because he had a restaurant in my home town, where my parents would buy me ice cream sometimes.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Drysdale always struck me as kind of a dick
If we are choosing all-time Dodgers, I suppose I would have to take Koufax for many reasons – he’s a lefty, we went to the same school, and he is a class act. Of course, there is Jackie Robinson, but I have no actual memory of him, only what I have read.
Among current Dodgers, I have to vote for Kemp on the off chance he reads this and it causes him to demand a trade to Cincinnati.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually
don’t know much about Drysdale as a person. I wasn’t a fan of baseball back then.
I just really liked the ice cream. :-)
I don’t think we ever got anything else there. It was kind of a tourist trap. Sort of sports bar deal, with ribs, burgers, and such.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
They had RIBS and ICE CREAM?????
Did you ever see Jeff Brantley there?
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 3, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I took Kershaw
lefties with power curves make me swoon. He’s also from a similarly named suburb to me but in the wrong city. I’ll take it anyways.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
thats who I voted for
he’s fun to watch pitch. thought about Ethier since he seems like he’s a little underrated, and I like Kemp too. all three would look slick in red.
Same here
Young, fireballing lefties always get my sugars a-goin’.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 3, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I’d love to get him on the Reds. He will develop into a true ace. Who would we have to give up to get him?
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
a ton.
Wood, Heisey, Boxy?
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 3, 2011 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Our Reds fandom since he's not coming here
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
by jch24 on Jun 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right
Teams don’t trade players like him. You can count Felix, Lincecum, and any other good young pitcher in that group.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 3, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
There are so many guys on the Dodgers I really like.
Kuroda, Kemp, Ethier, Kershaw, Furcal
It’s a shame that the McCourts are going to screw up this nucleus.
"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto
I think it would go like this.
Kersh….CLICK!!
We need Brandon Larson to Play 3rd! Can't be worse than Rentawreck, right?!?
by BiggerRedMachines on Jun 3, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Dodgers had a guy by the name of Castro who made some waves there
a while back. How bout it?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 3, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions

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