BubbaFan's Dark Night of the Soul. Reds lose, 5-3.
by Brendanukkah on Jun 21, 2011 1:07 AM EDT
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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Brandon Phillips. It's kind of tough to award this one tonight because everyone was pretty bad. Phillips was the only Red to have multiple hits and he scored a run. Honorable mentions go to Carlos Fisher (perfect ninth inning, two strikeouts) and, um, Scott Rolen I guess (a hit, an RBI, a Web Gem).
Key Plays
- Perhaps you've just returned from a tour of duty in Afghanistan, and you haven't been able to follow your beloved Reds very closely this year. First of all, thanks for your service! While I don't agree with the rhetoric that you're protecting my freedoms, I certainly salute your willingness to serve our country (and the people of Afghanistan that are not asshole Taliban) with bravery and courage. Secondly, I have bad news for you about what the Reds starting pitchers like to do in the first inning. Travis Wood was like Charlie Wilson, giving out singles like they were stinger missiles, only they ended up ultimately harming the good guys. Nick Swisher singled to lead things off. Wood struck out Curtis Granderson, but then Mark Teixeira singled, and Alex Rodriguez singled too, driving in Swisher. Robinson Cano hit a double, which sent A-Rod to third and Teixeira to home. Russell Martin grounded out, but even that was enough to score a run. And then Fat Andruw Jones drove in Cano with a single to put the icing on this crapcake of an inning. Yankees lead, 4-0.
- The top of our order fooled us into thinking they might compete with the mighty Yankees. Drew Stubbs singled, stole second, and went to third on Brandon Phillips's single. Joey Votto then drove in Stubbs by... grounding into a double play. Yankees lead, 4-1.
- Travis Wood did settle down and made it through the seventh inning without allowing any more runs. Jose Arredondo relieved him and walked Curtis Granderson. Granderson stole second base, and then went to third when Paul Janish couldn't handle the throw. One wild pitch later, and Granderson had earned a sloppy, error-fueled run. Yankees lead, 5-1.
- The Reds hadn't been able to hit Ivan Nova all night, but still forced the Yankees into using a Dusty-esque three relief pitchers in the ninth inning. Luis Ayala started and gave up a single to Brandon Phillips. The improbably named Boone Logan then plunked Joey Votto. Wanting a reliever that could pitch to more than one batter AND get them out, Joe Girardi brought in Mariano Rivera. Rivera got Jay Bruce to ground out, but it advanced the runners. Scott Rolen singled, and Phillips scored while Votto went to third. Chris Heisey grounded into a force out and Votto scored. Edgar Renteria represented the tying run at the plate, and naturally struck out. Yankees win, 5-3.
Other Notes
- 22 of the 24 outs Nova recorded came via groundouts or strikeouts.
- I haven't paid much attention to the Yankees, but man do they have a collection of mid-decade All-Stars. Russell Martin, Andruw Jones, Eric Chavez.
- In the four games on the homestand so far, the Reds have scored only seven runs and are batting only .220.
- Seriously, screw interleague play.
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seems certain t wood loses his spot now
also since u posted about afghan. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-afghan-withdrawal-20110621,0,6964197.story might be the beginning of the end of that
Wood actually pitched very well
Outside of that horrid first inning. He pitched six shutout innings.
I think his outing is better than Volquez’s last, if only because he went 7 innings while Volquez went only 5 (while giving up the same number of runs).
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I'm a lot more confident in Wood than I am in Volquez right now.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 21, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I am confident in neither
It is Willis time, until Maloney gets back.
Nothing succeeds like failure.
i agree on Wood.
7 innings of 4 run ball against that lineup ain’t all bad. He controlled Granderson, and kept everyone in the ballpark. Not all bad, just a bad first inning.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2011 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and it was a weird first inning
nothing was tagged (save the double was pretty solid, and I think a foul ball) and the non-batted pitches weren’t terrible.
Reminded me of an inning Leake had earlier in the year where he gave up a metric shitload of seeing eye hits and, eventually, a home run.
Live by the soft liner (normally outs) / ground ball (normally outs), die by the softliner/ground ball.
Yes, those are lovely cocoanuts.
Yeah, that was a really weird first inning
He was ahead in the count against almost every batter, and almost all of the 1st inning hits were with 2 strikes. Moreover, Hanigan barely moved his glove on them, meaning Wood was putting them right where he wanted them, the Yanks hitters were just getting the bat on them.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
well, the Yankees are good hitters (which is not exactly a bold claim)
it seemed to me that what the Astros would ground to short, the Yanks were able to slap into the outfield.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
He also had a bunch of 2-strike hits in the first inning
He was having trouble putting hitters away
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I got the feeling he was throwing too many FBs
didn’t see alot of changes in the first
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
so
Did Dusty offer any explanation for why he pinch-hit Renteria (hitting .221, .158 in June) for Ryan Hanigan (hitting .262, .297 in June)?
Teh Fay quotes Dusty as saying the 4-run lead after the first half-inning really helped young Nova settle down. Girardi said something similar. I think Nova will be a fine pitcher one day, and part of what we saw last night is the blossoming of a young player. (He’s now tied with AJ for second most wins among Yankee pitchers.) But part of it having that 4-run cushion from the get-go. That reduced the pressure on the kid a lot. He used more pitches, rather than going to back to his fastball and curve over and over. And he threw strikes. Walks have been a bugaboo for him in the past, but last night, he didn’t give out any free passes.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Reds also seemed rather agressive
swinging at alot of pitches not even close to the strike zone.
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
they were fooled quite a bit at the plate
The mere existence of a flamethrower indicates that somewhere, at some point in time, someone said, "Gee, I wish I could set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough."
by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 21, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm wondering the same thing about that decision
I mean, if he was going to insert Renteria into the game if it became tied, which it seemed the plan since Ramon was on deck in Janish’s spot, why not just straight up pinch hit for Janish? Then again, I suppose that is why they signed him in the first place, for his late game (non) heroics.
The mere existence of a flamethrower indicates that somewhere, at some point in time, someone said, "Gee, I wish I could set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough."
by Howie Feltersnatch on Jun 21, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it's appropriate to dust off this old chestnut:
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 21, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
topical:
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I seriously would've PH Leake before Renteria in that situation.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
but Leake has not been in the League for 15 years, and does not speak Spanish.
So how would that have worked?
by Eastwindquinn on Jun 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
better
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
by joshuar9476 on Jun 21, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither McCoy nor Fay seemed to mention it
they are all a bunch of worthless hacks. Hall of Fame my ass…
Nothing succeeds like failure.
Oh yeah
this home stand sucks so far. Where is the offense?
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
I'm here to calm everyone down
There have been worse times in recent memory. Anyone remember this game?
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
Sweet holy hell. Look at that lineup!
And sadly, I do remember that game. I was there. Stupid company always passes out tickets for Reds interleague play.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 21, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i remember that one too.
Pretty much the first and only time Hochevar ever looked like a number 1 pick.
That lineup was ghastly…yuck.
FREE ZACK COZART.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
32 K attendance?
That must have been gold-plated bobble head night.
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I was there for a mediation.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 21, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I read this as "I was there for a medication"
which was TMI for me.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
More than likely I was "medicating" at a bar the night before the mediation
Mediations in front of a judge are pretty tedious.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Both Willy Taveras and Alex Gonzalez were OPSing higher than our current short stops.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
x
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
that did put it in perspective
that was a truly awful game and I seem to remember BP swinging through a stop sign on a 3-0 count and popping up to end the game or an important rally
considering how few baserunners the Reds got in that game
I’m doubting it was an important rally.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
anyone else read on MLBTR that the Reds are looking at SP?
Specifically Jeremy Guthrie of the O’s? I don’t know a ton about him because on first glance this offseason he didn’t overwhelm me as worth trading for.
Anyone care to make the case that he’d be an upgrade (that would be worthy of trading Alonso, which is who I’d guess they’d want)?
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don't think it'd be worth it to trade for Guthrie
I’m guessing if the Reds are interested in a SP then it’s going to be someone’s Ace or someone who has Ace potential. I don’t think that’s Guthrie
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I keep hoping the Rays either start to suck
or start to pinch pennies early so that James Shields becomes available.
I’d totally trade Alonso for him.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2011 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I doubt you meant it that way
But I don’t think Alonso would be enough for Shields.
"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow
oh yeah, I know.
I’d trade Alonso and whichever young pitcher was going to get bounced from the rotation for Shields (Wood/Homer/Leake/Volquez) and whatever other parts it took.
No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 21, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it's going to be an ace, only because an ace isn't going to be made available
I think Walt would go after a decent innings eater, and Guthrie certainly qualifies. I’m not thrilled at the idea, but if he really wants a SP, he could do worse.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
I like Guthrie a lot
easy folk song jokes aside, he just flat doesn’t walk people and he has a lot of movement. I’d snap him up. And if he comes with Hardy? All the better.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
for a bit more info
Outside of one bad year, he’s been solid for the past half decade. He reminds me a lot of Harang: less strikeouts and workhorse-y, more control.
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
both Mormon fans!
"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."
by Cy Schourek on Jun 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't Jordan Smith a Mormon?
He looks like a Mormon…
/Gaffigan’d
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 21, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
our offense has been asleep for days
it will either wake up strong these next two games or the Orioles are in for a pummeling
I hope the Reds bats wake up against the Yankees
And then continue that with the Orioles. I’ll be at Friday’s game and it’d be nice to enjoy Baltimore, Camden Yards and a Reds victory
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
I was really hoping to catch some games this weekend, but I'll be out of town
Seems like they almost never play on the east coast on the weekends. I haven’t been to Camden in at least eight years.
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