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Red Reposter - Reds look to pummel NYY like it's 1976

  • The Reds tipped the Jays yesterday to avoid a sweep
    There wasn't much offense aside from Miguel Cairo's two-run home run, but that was more than what the Reds had put up the prior two days. In any event, it was all the help Bronson Arroyo needed. Reds fans exhaled in relief as Goodroyo appeared, unlike his prior outings against the Jays.
  • The Reds continue interleague play in hosting the Yankees
    The Reds haven't played the Yankees since 2008, and haven't hosted them since 2003.  There is of course a rich World Series history between the two franchises, with the Yankees triumphing in 1939 and 1961 but the Reds getting payback in 1976.  Bronson Arroyo has his own history with the Bombers from his time in Boston.  He talks about his memories of the 2004 ALCS here, and specifically Alex Rodriguez's infamous glove slap:  "I was like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm looking around and I'm kind of squatting down. I'm just waiting. In my mind I'm thinking, there's six umpires here, somebody had to see this. It's impossible for this to happen."  Brandon Phillips is looking forward to getting a look at the NYY staff in case the teams meet again:  "I'm happy to be playing the Yankees here. I think it's good for the fans, that's how I look at it. Interleague [Play] is good for baseball because it's good for the fan base, it's good for us to see teams in case we meet them in the World Series. That's a big thing about it."
  • Chapman's about to get called up, or isn't
    Time's up on Aroldis Chapman's rehab assignment. Tomorrow the Reds will need to either call him up to the big league team or option him to the minors. He's had mixed results pitching for Carolina, pitching 7.1 innings and allowing six walks, 11 Ks, and five runs. The Reds are non-committal so far, and my guess is that Chapman continues to work on his control for the Bats.  A more likely call-up candidate is Sam LeCure, who also ends his rehab assignment soon.  He pitched three scoreless innings for Louisville on Saturday, striking out three. Baker: "He pitched well, which is big. We’re going to have tough decisions, which is no different than coming out of spring training. We’ve got a lot of good young arms. We’ll have tough decisions. There was a time a month ago when we didn’t have any decisions."
  • The Blog Red Machine sat down with Zack Cozart
    Nice work by the BRM. Cozart, as you'd expect, doesn't demand a promotion but would certainly welcome it: "I try not to think about [getting called up] too much. What can I control? The only thing I can control is what I do here and let the big guys upstairs make the decisions. I know my wife stresses about it more than I do and I’m like, "Why are you wasting all your energy on that?" I just come to the park trying to play hard everyday and everything will take care of itself."
  • The Coz and 'Roco are getting pub outside of the Reds blogosphere as well
    BPro's Jason Parks ranked Devin Mesoraco as the top catching prospect in the game:  "Seriously, Mesoraco is an incredibly strong man. He can sell out a bit when looking for the power stroke, but his contact ability hasn’t suffered this season; in fact, he is barreling the ball like a plus-plus hitter....  Behind the plate, Mesoraco is slowly improving, but he’s never going to be a special defender. His arm is in the 60/65 range, and his release and accuracy make him a good weapon in controlling the running game." Meanwhile, Parks considers Yasmani Grandal as a potential "solid everyday catcher at the major-league level."
  • RotoHardball bangs the "Free Zack Cozart" drum
    This is more fantasy-oriented, but an SBN writer wonders what the Reds are waiting for regarding calling up Cozart.  "Add to this his being 26 in August and he might not have the period of adjustment a younger call up normally would.... With the Reds currently sitting 2.0 games out in the competitive National League central, I'd be curious to learn why the organization is operating as if the league worst -.5 WAR Cincinnati shortstops have produced is not a key factor in the team being in third place instead of first. At present, there may not be a more obvious call up candidate in all of minor league baseball than Zack Cozart based on AAA production and need at the big league level."

Star-divide

  • Interleague weekend made a small dent in the Central Standings
    The Cardinals took two of three against Kansas City, with each game decided by one run.  They won yesterday on a walk-off HR from Skip Schumaker. But not everything went their way.   Albert Pujols had to leave yesterday's game with a sprained wrist.  They say it's not as serious as his writhing on the ground would lead you to believe, but he'll undergo tests today, and the team isn't saying whether a DL stint will be necessary.  Meanwhile, the Brewers dropped two of three in Boston. Yovanni Gallardo got rocked yesterday, possibly hexed by the Boston Bruins parading the Stanley Cup around Fenway before the game. St. Louis and Milwaukee are tied at the top of the Central, with the Reds two games back.  UPDATE: Kenny Rosenthal tweets Albert is out 4-6 weeks.
  • Well, he wasn't Mayor Mallory-bad
    But you would expect more from one of the most explosive athletes in the NBA. Washington Wizard guard and former UK star John Wall "threw" out the first pitch at the Washington Nationals game on Friday night, skipping a ball well short and wide of the plate on a ball that only Juan Francisco would swing at.
  • Minor leaguer Jose Raga tests positive for steroids, suspended 50 games
    Raga, 17, is a catcher for Cincinnati's Venezuelan Summer League team. He tested positive for Stanozolol, an anabolic steroid which is slightly less powerful than Stanozorofl.
  • SweetSpot Blog - Are teams smarter than they used to be?
    An interesting comparison of the top paid players of 1985 and today.  You might think that teams more rationally value talent today, and pay them accordingly.  You would be wrong.  But the mid-'80s teams have perhaps an insurmountable advantage - they were cheating.  Teams freely exchanged negotiation information amongst eachother and thereby controlled compensation levels.  This not only depressed annual salaries but also the length of contracts, which is what really creates the fiscal headaches.  For the Reds, the '85 top two salaries went to Mario Soto and Dave Parker, two of their best players.  In 2010 it was Francisco Cordero and Aaron Harang, who definitely were not.
  • 6/20/1911 - Milwaukee Sentinel calls out the Reds for the use of "dark skinned ball players"
    In 1911, Armando Marsans and Rafael Almeida became the first Cubans to play in MLB since 1873.  When Reds President/Owner August Herrmann greeted the two at the train station "he gasped when he saw two young black men come out of the train."  To the relief of Herrmann, they were the players' assistants.  The Reds went to great pains to convince their fans of the players' whiteness, touting that they were "two of the purest bars of Castille soap that ever floated to these shores." HT to BBTF.
  • Lou Barletta (R-Pa.), still rues the Reds for rejecting him 
    Not really.  But Barletta did unsuccessfully audition for the Reds in Florida as a 21 year-old in 1977. The rejection most likely hardened him into the hardball politician he later became. He is now looking to draw upon his prior prowess on the diamond to defeat the Democrats in the 50th annual House baseball game.  Barletta throws lefty but is otherwise as righty as you can get (cue slide whistle) - he's most known for his anti-immigration policies while mayor of Hazelton, Pa.  No shame in being cut by the late-dynasty Reds, however.  Among the 65 cut in 1977 was George Clooney.

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I know this isn't baseball related, but I had to share the good news.

Who just got a teaching job offer in Wyoming?!? This guy! It is my first offer, and it may not be close to home, but it is something!

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm pretty excited. Usually they will fly you out and meet with you, but they offered it to me on the spot.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congratulations!

I’ve been to Wyoming-it’s nothing to sneeze at. Parts of the countryside are absolutely beautiful.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

congratulations ...

… just refrain from watching the yellowstone super volcano doomsday shows and you’ll be a-ok

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Jun 20, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congratulations!

I’ve always wanted to check Wyoming out.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're thinking of Cheyenne.

She works down at Tiny Dancer.

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 21, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Tina Turner reference

I’m your private dancer, dancing for money, do what you want me to do!

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 21, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a D- strip club in Columbus called "Private Dancer"

Known by the locals as “Private Dumpster”

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 21, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats! That's awesome

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jun 20, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats!

You better go to a Billings game or three.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jun 20, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would but i think that is like a 6 hour drive from where I'm at.

I’m going to be very close to the WY-CO border.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow....

And I thought I was an ass for thinking “Well, now Joey gets to start the All Star Game”.

Chapman’s latest performance was at AA, right? Nice last outing, but I think they’ll bring him up a level before they get him to the majors. Maybe two weeks? Be nice to get LeCure back.

Meanwhile, Renteria has an OPS of .348 in June. I don’t know what pictures he has of Dusty, but I can’t believe they’ll keep working.

by MatthewH on Jun 20, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it before but I have an irrational hate for Pujols

He just strikes me as a petulant ass, a la Roger Clemens.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Roger Clemens.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

For being a great player or because of his attitude?

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Attitude.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I'm all about a guy being a competitor and a bulldog

But Clemens went further than that IMO, and so does Pujols. They both gave off the “don’t you know who I am? How dare you?” attitude.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Pujols gets too much credit both for his ability and for his faith and community work.

I can speak from experience that you can have very strong faith, do lots of good things, and still be a complete jackass.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was mostly being sarcastic.

I’m all giddy right now.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

boinking a 15-year-old?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's irrational.

He’s always acted like a petulant ass, he just gets a free pass because he’s good at baseball and hasn’t been proven to do steroids. His reputation as a class act makes no sense, given how much of a jackass he acts like on the field. He may be hot shit, but I still can’t stand opposing players who think they’re hot shit, and Pujols is the king of them.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for use of "Prince Albert"

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 20, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Although I think anyone will tell you Clemens was an ass- but Pujols… everyone thinks he’s an angel.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. In every interview I've seen with Pujols, he comes across as a smarmy dickwad

Just everything about him strikes me as insincere and obnoxious.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for the use of smarmy.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the injury is on Albert, not the 2B

Kozma made a tough jump throw on the play. Pujols should’ve tried to scoop the throw on the short hop. He didn’t, and it left his arm completely exposed on the basepaths.

by ken on Jun 20, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see that argument too.

Pujols is ultimately responsible for where he chooses to stick his arm, and in the basepath on a bang-bang play is a dumb spot to put it. I think the throw led him up the line a little and a scoop would’ve been tough, but it’s a play a Gold Glove 1B should be able to make. Kozma made a good effort on the play and although it wasn’t a great throw, it was good enough to get an injury-free out.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd because it's pretty much what I was thinking.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

After reading that blurb about Mesoraco, it’s too bad he’s not a shortstop or left fielder.

Oh wait, even then, he’d still be in the minors.

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 20, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

the top 6 spots haven't moved in a couple of weeks ...

.. and for the 2nd straight week someone (Ram27) closed out the week with two straight ..

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"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Jun 20, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

put me down for

Opponent 3
Reds 2

For each game the rest of the season

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jun 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yankees 6 Reds 4

It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 20, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmm

Is ‘creds Cozart’s wife? ;-)

“Prospects Will Break Your Heart” – ain’t it the truth.

Austin Romine’s star has really fallen since his hot streak last year. But not as much as Montero’s, apparently, since he’s not even on the list.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

'creds isn't Coz's wife, it's worse

“Why don’t the Reds call up some of them fresh faced young boys down on the farm? Mmmmmmmm….”

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ugh. I have to hit mute when he comes on Family Guy!

If one of my friends talked like that, I’d probably have to beat him to death.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me three

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jun 20, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn't on the list because he is projected to a be a 1B/DH.

I read through the comments and that was the explanation.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

they've been saying that since he was signed at age 16

He’s still a catcher, five years later.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

If he plays more than 30 games at catcher in the bigs, I’ll be shocked.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Yanks genuinely want him to be their catcher

They’re generally willing to put up with subpar defense for a good bat. And it’s not like slugging catchers are thick on the ground.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I repeat

If he plays more than 30 games at catcher in the bigs, I’ll be shocked.

The Reds might genuinely want Yonder Alonso to be their every day LFer. Doesn’t mean it will happen.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Romine's star has fallen according to whom?

He’s playing way better this year than he was last year.

I think he was overrated last year by a lot of people.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he probably was

Some scouts were calling for the Yanks to trade Montero and make Romine their catcher of the future. In retrospect, it was silly. Romine had an amazing first half, but fell into a black hole the second half.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scouts have never been all that wild about his tools anyway

He’s decently average at everything.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he really impressed some people last year

He was so hot the first half, it really looked like he’d broken through. And Montero had the opposite pattern: he sucked the first half, then raked the second half.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"some people" being "Yankees homers"

Nobody else has ever thought Austin Romine was anything more than a possible future mediocre major league starter, and most think he’s a future back-up.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I haven’t read any national people who are all that high on him. He should be a decent hitter with decent C defense.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That'd be my guess.

Maybe a David Ross-lite. Nothing wrong with that, but no catcher of the future.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even David Ross-lite is generous.

I don’t think Romine comes close to matching Ross’ power or eye at the plate, to be honest. He’ll probably hit for a little higher average and be similar defensively, but I don’t think he’s gonna be much of an offensive player.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The local news just posted that Pujols will be out 4-6 weeks via facebook.

Without even thinking, I pulled a Jonny and ‘liked’ it.

Here’s the story

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

"fractured left forearm"?
The team said Pujols has a non-displaced fracture of his left radius and his arm is in a splint.

That doesn’t sound like a wrist injury.

Why does Olney think it will seriously affect his career?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

one speculation

A lot of people seem to think it’s worse than they’re letting on. Because the Cards supposedly routinely downplay injuries.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cardinals lie about things? Surely you jest!

I figured they’s be all over whining about the ‘thug-like tactics’ of KC by now.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a terrible thing

but I agree it sounds like it wouldn’t seriously affect his career. I hope it doesn’t—it was such an avoidable injury. Those kind are the toughest to take.

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, thanks for the info

If I didn’t have to head back to work, I’d be checking it out.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

First two innings report:

Gave up a pair of well-struck singles but got out of a 1st and 3rd situation with a strikeout looking to end the inning. The other two outs were lazy flyballs, although the wind is blowing in really hard right now. He gave up a walk and a single in the 2nd before getting a double play ball and a warning track flyball that might’ve been out if the wind wasn’t blowing in.

Looks like he throws a 2-seam fastball with decent tail away from lefties and in on righties, sitting 90-91 in the first. He’s had a couple of 4-seamers at 93, but they had no movement and weren’t terribly close to the strike zone. Also seems to have a change-up with very similar movement to the 2-seamer coming in around 83. His last pitch is a really slurvy looking curveball with a 2-7 break that comes in at 80-83 MPH. He threw a few nasty ones, including one on the backdoor to get the strikeout, but he also hung a couple and it looks like a really hittable pitch if it’s up in the zone. He’s got confidence in all of his pitches, willing to throw the off-speed stuff in any count. Looks to have pretty good but not exceptional control. None of his pitches look to be an out pitch, so he’s gonna give up a lot of balls in play. Appears to be a bit short but solidly built on the mound, and has an odd three-quarters arm slot that could be deceptive. Appears to be fairly athletic right now, although there’s room for him to put on some bad weight. The overall package is somewhat reminiscent of former Texas starter Sam LeCure, although LeCure has a sharper breaking ball and much better facial hair.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

He gave up sharply hit singles to the first two batters he faced in the 3rd and was removed.

Probably because it’s an elimination game. His replacement struck out the first two batters he faced before giving up a walk and a bases-loaded single. His final line:

2+ IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 1 K

Overall, he was unimpressive, leaving a lot of pitches up in the zone and not showing any strikeout pitch. He’ll need some help from pro coaching or a stuff improvement from switching to the pen to make the majors.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you'd seen him for four innings...

you could probably tell us who he was going to marry. The names of his kids would take six, and if he pitched a complete game you could probably have given the kids’ average WAR and what round we should take them.

Seriously, very nice.

by MatthewH on Jun 20, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

teh Fay

says the Reds are a bargain for visiting fans.

Funny that that guy from Pittsburgh thought Cincinnati prices were too high. Of course he’s not used to the prices that Canadians or New Yorkers put up with, but still…is it really that expensive at GABP?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I always thought it was pretty cheap, well except for the beer.

I just sneak in liquor anyway.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can come up with a way for me to sneak in a 12 pack of beer. Then I am all for it.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

80 oz. isn't enough.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take sword swallowing lessons

Then put them down in your throat, one by one. Once you’re inside, bring them back up again like some sort of beer can Pez dispenser.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 20, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

/prison'd

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jun 20, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Liquor > Beer

Beer is simply a shallow substitute for the good stuff.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not expensive at all.

The problem is that the Pirates have had to pay people all their revenue sharing money over the past 15 years just to get them to show up and watch.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been to Busch, Wrigley, and Miller Park in the last year

GABP is the cheapest of the lot by far.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did Cueto get scratched?

It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 20, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Not cool.

He better be sick or something.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

if they are jiggering the lineup for the return of Homer Bailey. They said they might skip his next rehab start and call him up. He pitched Thursday, so would be due to pitch tomorrow.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would make sense.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know maybe they want to keep Bailey on a regular schedule, or give Cueto a little more rest.

Or maybe they are trying to line up their three best starters against the Yankees.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you are right.

I don’t really know. I’m just trying to find reasons and see if one sticks.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wood was supposed to go tomorrow

So he was going to face the Yankees anyway.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the three best starters...

I’ve been debating for a while who would be in the playoff rotation if they keep this pitching staff and make the playoffs. I guess Cueto, Bailey and Arroyo, which is a well below average playoff rotation. But hey, a ton can happen between now and October. Some guys could break out, there could be trades, all that. But man, it sucks to have a bad pitching staff.

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by sexsalad on Jun 20, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Just because Cueto was moved, doesn’t mean he’s the one being bounced.

Maybe it’s a matchup thing. Put the ace up against the career minor leaguer, guarantee at least one win?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guarantee is a strong word against the Yankees lineup.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not Walt or Dusty's style.

Didn’t Arroyo and Volquez go out of turn this weekend? Wasn’t Arroyo’s normal day Saturday and Volquez Sunday?

I wonder if they think Wood will do better on normal rest and Johnny can handle/use the extra?

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope this is the case.

The way Johnny has been pitching it would be awful for him to go back on the shelf.
Maybe they want to see Wood one more time before Homer gets back to see who wins the 5th spot between him and Leake.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a possibility

Wood is the clear option to be demoted in favor of Bailey. It’s possible that if Wood sucks tonight that they’ll demote him tomorrow and activate Bailey.

But damn, I hope not. Voley and I are going to be watching this game in enemy territory. I really wanted to see Cueto pitch. Wood scares me against this lineup.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing Wood has going for him against this lineup is the fact that he is left handed.

That is about it.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were managing the Reds...

I would have Wood pitch today, then send him down and bring up Lecure, leaving us with only 4 starters until Bailey comes up.

I believe we can go with 4 starters until July 5th, thanks to the off days.

by MatthewH on Jun 20, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's another good thought.

I doubt they would admit that’s what they are doing, though.

So we’ll see. If Dusty gives Fay the runaround, this seems like a likely answer.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 20, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would make an awful lot of sense to have an extra bat

off the bench going into Baltimore and Tampa. Maybe you get your wish and see Coz or Frazier called up.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Tonight’s Bats lineup:

Zack Cozart SS
Dave Sappelt CF
Jeremy Hermida DH
Devin Mesoraco C
Juan Francisco 3B
Yonder Alonso LF
Todd Frazier 1B
Danny Dorn RF

Chris Valaika 2B

Tom Cochran SP

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This lineup is better than 2/3 of MLB lineups right now.

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jun 20, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a ridiculous statement

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jun 20, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i don't actually think that...

it’s just damn good.

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jun 20, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this theory the best.

Because the only alternative that makes any sense is that Johnny is sick or hurt.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link?

It still says Cueto tonight and Wood tomorrow on Reds.com

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

N/M I see Fya's tweet now.

I guess we can all breathe a sigh of relief that Johnny is okay.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Sheldon

says Cueto is pitching tomorrow.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure if it's been said yet, but they're reporting a stiff neck now

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by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that's a letdown

So they think he’ll be ready to pitch by tomorrow?

If not, Homer awaits. He’s listed as the probable starting pitcher for the Bats tomorrow.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fay said JC says he feels a little pain when he throws and he might go tomorrow

So who the hell knows at this point.

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

But the Reds had an off day Thursday, so this is normal rest for Wood.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fay banned me on twitter

/broken record

It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 20, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter did.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

Cueto was listed as the probable pitcher, but Wood is listed on Jamie’s lineup.

Stubbs CF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Heisey LF
Hanigan C
Janish SS
Wood P

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heisey....

yesss…..

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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 20, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder

if they are really giving him a shot, or if he’s just getting playing time because Gomes has a minor injury.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fay's headline

“Wood is pithing”

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

guy was born to be a baseball writer.

His headlines are accurate roughly 30% of the time, so he’s a big leaguer!

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 20, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fay is such a nerd.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 20, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I got tense

just reading that the Yankees almost had him. I wonder why no other team really noticed?

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joey said

the Yankees were the only other team interested. But they were so pushy he was kinda glad he ended up with the Reds.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jo-eh doesn't like pushy.

Plus, with the problems he had New York would have been a terrible place for him. Even though he probably would have gotten traded anyway.

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by BigBabyBruce on Jun 20, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I think there's a good chance he'd have been traded

He’s young enough that the Yanks weren’t trading everyone by then, but he sort of struggled early on. Our own JD Arney kinda thought he was a bust. Hah!.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that kvetch Pdoc

wanted to trade Votto too right/?

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

with Homer Bailey for Joe Blanton /shudder

I think that was the proposed nutso trade

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 20, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Joey ended up in the right place to befit his personality.

And not just because I want him in a Reds uniform. Can you imagine dealing with depression and anxiety while being a Yankee? Ugh, they would have slaughtered the poor kid.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly think

they’d have traded him before he got to the bigs.

His minor league numbers were good, but not nearly as good as his big league numbers. And he took a long time to get to the big leagues. I think the Yanks would likely have lost patience with him.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that seems sensible to me

especially since they don’t have to wait for the roses to bloom when they can buy a dozen at the florist just about any time they want to

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

good way of putting it

The Yanks have made an effort to develop pitchers and catchers, since elite ones are not readily available on the market. But for other position players…Cashman has made it pretty clear that his philosophy is to acquire them via free agency.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that analogy.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey

Who you calling girly?

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to know the story behind that one.

I’m guessing rookie hazing?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 20, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet it was

but the picture is great and we will probably find use for it

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

The Yanks go all-out for rookie hazing. They had custom cheerleaders’ costumes made (with “Yankees” and the rookie’s names on them). Donna Summer disco music and a disco ball in the locker room. They also make the rookies sign autographs for the fans outside the stadium, so there are always lots of photos.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all for the Indianapolis Colts' stance on rookie hazing.

Basically, they don’t do it. Their reasoning is that if you’re a rookie on their team, you’re a pro now. They expect the young guys to play like veterans, and because of that they’re treated like veterans. I think that’s the best approach. It really sends a message to the rookies; “We’re going to treat you like part of the team, and you’re fully expected to play like it.”

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Jun 20, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is some serious hazing

I would have liked to get an autograph from Heisey dressed as an anime schoolgirl last year (that was Heisey’s costume wasn’t it?)

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

was it?

Dang, he must have been adorable!

The Yanks are pretty laid back about hazing. A lot of teams haze the rookies all year. The Yanks pretty much stick to the last road trip of the year. If it happens to be a long trip – like out to the west coast – they’ll do it on the second to last trip, so the rookies don’t have wear their costumes for too long.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Sam LeCure’s purple outfit is the best. Whatever it is.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 20, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless they have bugs on them.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh, entitled Yankees trash.

Votto was selected 27 picks before the Yankees picked. That’s nearly a full round. There’s no way to know if other teams were interested in Votto, but as the 44th overall pick and someone invited to showcases and scouted by both the Reds and Yankees, it doesn’t seem unlikely that some other team may have been interested in Votto between 44 and 71 and this random ex-scout just doesn’t know about it.

Besides, even if the Yankees had picked him, they would’ve ended up trading him for some overpaid reliever in 2005 anyways.

by Geki on Jun 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have heard about the Yankees interest before

in an interview with Casey McKeon (I think) I need to go find that. In that article, our scout suggested that the Yankees scouts were hyper aggressive and smothering Votto.

by Red_Poodle on Jun 20, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

best thing I've watched in a while

rec’d

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 20, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was awesome!

And I totally watched it at work despite the NSFW tag! #rebel.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 20, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love these things...

Big Lebowski also has a great one.

also NSFW

"I slyde my boehner into sexsalad...."
Sounds like a johnu1 production. --jch24

by GrooveLeg on Jun 20, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been watching this today

You got knocked the fuck out!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 20, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was awesome.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 20, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the sidebar, Matt Holliday has been wearing Red Schoendienst's pants as a slumpbuster

Does this sound like BS to anyone else? Those pants are 50 years old. I can’t believe they’d be in game shape. Plus, Schoendienst is listed at 6’, 170 lbs. Holliday is 6’4", 235. I can’t see him fitting his waist and thighs in there.

by ken on Jun 20, 2011 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe it's just his jock strap

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by featherman on Jun 20, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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