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Red Reposter - Bringing water to L.A.

Stubbs adds a degree of diffiiculty to catching a routine fly last night.

Bronson won the old-fashioned way last night
In scanning the boxscore, I noticed that Bronson Arroyo let his defense control the destiny of every Dodger hitter save for one strikout of the opposing pitcher.  He's the first Red to pitch at least seven innings while not allowing a HR or walk, but only striking out one, since ... Danny Graves (!) in 2003. 

Francisco Cordero earned his 303rd save last night
And moved into a tie with Doug Jones for 20th all time. He's 13 for 15 this year and looking as sharp as he ever has in a Reds uniform, effectively retiring the "So-so" nickname. Next on the list with 304 saves is Jeff Montgomery, a Reds draftee. It wasn't Robinson-for-Pappas, but the 1988 swap of Montgomery for Van Snider is one of the worst trades in modern Reds history.

Draft signing update, courtesy of Sheldon
The Reds announced Monday the signing of third-round pick Tony Cingrani, a left-handed reliever out of Rice University. Cingrani had 12 saves in 32 relief appearances this season while posting a 1.74 ERA. Cingrani was the highest pick out of 14 signings from the 2011 First-Year Player Draft the Reds announced Monday, including fourth-round right-handed pitcher Kyle McMyne out of Villanova.

C-ing Red takes a look at Kershaw and Billingsley
The Reds hit Hiroki Kuroda alright, but Clayton Kershaw presents a more difficult challenge.  'mache takes a look under the hood:  Kershaw has raised his K/9 rate to 10.0 this season, while dropping his BB/9 to 2.85. Kershaw is predominantly a two pitch guy – over 90% of his pitches are four-seamers (average velocity 93.1 mph) or sliders, but he also sprinkles in a big 12-6 curveball, and a changeup that comes in about 10 mph slower than the fastball. Impressively, this season, out of 310 sliders, Kershaw has thrown over 2/3 of them for strikes, and batters have whiffed on 20% of them.  For you out-of-town fans, the Reds will be on MLBN tonight.

Rolen sat yesterday with a sore foot
He fouled a ball off the foot on Sunday night.  The good news:  "I'm not dead and it's not broken."  Todd Frazier strokes his chin, thinking "not yet, anyways."  My guess is Miguel Cairo makes another start tonight.

Dames on Games - Who I end up sitting next to at Reds games
Does this really exist? The "Ironic" fan. Hipsters have even descended upon the most American of pastimes. The Ironic Fan either overcheers or ignores the game, and spends at least an inning and a half trying to start the "wave," despite the fact it’s a Tuesday night and the stands are only capable of a ripple. The Ironic Fan doesn’t wear team gear, unless they were able to find a pre-1990 child’s shirt.  The writer forgot to add that the hipster fan constantly checks his or her iPhone and takes public transportation to the park.  Or more ideally, arrives in a bicycle he or she built. 

Star-divide

June 14, 1870 - the winning stops
The 1869 Red Stockings are widely acknowledged as the first professional baseball team (their disconnection to the current Cincy franchise is besides the point). They won 81 or 130 consecutive games in 1869-1870, depending on who you ask.  The Brooklyn Atlantics ended the streak 141 years ago today in a wild 11-inning game.  10,000 Brooklynites attended, but only 3,000 unironically enjoyed the contest.

THT - The worst Cubs team ever?
Cubs fans of long standing have come to expect two kinds of teams: Disappointing and just plain bad. For a team considered a fringe divisional contender before the start of the season, this year's squad has been both.  Meanwhile, the Cubs stole one last night from Milwaukee on Darwin Barney's hook slide.  With Barney at third with one out in the ninth in a scoreless game, Aramis Ramirez grounded to Brewers shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt , who promptly threw home. Barney eluded a tag by catcher Jonathan Lucroy with a nifty hook slide.  As a result, the Reds pulled to within 3.5 games of the Brewers (and idle St. Louis). 

Cardinals sign (another) Rasmus
Colby Rasmus' younger brother Casey, was a 36th-round pick in last week's draft.  Your move, LaRussa.

Paul McCartney will play at GABP on August 4
Sir Paul will perform the first ever standalone concert at GABP. Seeing his name always reminds me of an old Dennis Miller joke: "Today Paul McCartney was knighted for his work with The Beatles. He was then promptly beheaded for the creation of Wings."

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@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 14, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I know-I can read them now too!

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 14, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're both very welcome

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 14, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I like Wings.

That Dames on Games article read like Chaucer. So many stereotypes of various classes of society.

And Doug Jones? The first thing that comes to mind is this ridiculous card:

And this picture of his delivery came up. Looks painful.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jun 14, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Wings was cool

Which one was Paul McCartney? Did he play the immigrant cabbie, or the retarded mechanic?

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

no no, he played the hot, slutty redhead

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Jun 14, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I think of Doug Jones

I think of that redoubtable mustache

by kcgard2 on Jun 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  


▲ ▲

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 14, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Ha. You suck.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

heheh, ssssshhhhh

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 14, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

there were a lot of close predictions last night, but only one person got it exactly right

good job kcgard2

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Jun 14, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

So, after homering last night, do you think Heisey might get two starts in a row?

I fear what Gomes will look like flopping around in that cavernous LF.

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

someone said Gomes is injured

Has a hand wrapped or something. So maybe Heisey will get more playing time.

OTOH, with a lefty on the mound tonight, it seems like as good a time as any to start Gomes, if he’s healthy.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Gomes is 1-10 with 4 Ks in his career against Kershaw. I think Heisey might get another start.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fred Lewis is 0-3 with 3 Ks

And I have a feeling that if he faced him 20 more times, he’ probably strike out 18 of them.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words, the Reds kinda suck against Kershaw across the board

Got it.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Jun 14, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's probably true for most teams.

But the Reds have some guys who have crushed him.

BP and Votto both have hit him around, as have the catchers, collectively.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't they tag him for 5 or 6 last time out?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jun 14, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah they got his pitch count up.

But that was the game the bullpen pissed down its leg.

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 14, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that solves it

Hanigan catches, Ramon plays 1b, Votto in left.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jun 14, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Janish pitches

Fuck it, we'll do it live.

by DTFH91 on Jun 14, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best possible Reds lineup, based on career OPS vs. Kershaw

c – Hanigan
1b – Hernandez
2b – Phillips
ss – Renteria
3b – Janish
lf – Votto
cf – Bruce
rf – Gomes

Sadly, Jonny’s career .367 OPS is the 8th best on the team vs. Kershaw, beating out Rolen at .347

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce has to play CF because Stubbs, FLewis, and Hesiey are a combined 0-17 with 10 Ks

Stubbs does have a walk, though.

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many runs would be lost due to that defense?

Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson

by BigBabyBruce on Jun 14, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually that's true

They’d have the edge at 1B and CF, but it’d be equal or the Reds would be better everywhere else. (I just assume Votto would be better than whoever the Cards are currently running out in LF.)

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Jay, right?

he’s probably not too bad

by kcgard2 on Jun 14, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just about to say that just before you came in and said it before I came in.


That would be too fucked up. You got Tommy Gohome in right feel instead of Bruce Wayne and Bruce dominating center like I dominated that dope you tried to sell me.
Your first placeman is in the left feel flopping aboot like a fish oot of antiflopping stuff and then you also butcher the infield with no names and guys I’ve never even looked before.
Cool Man Mo Dee at first base isnt bad if Joey is aboot to have the day orf.

You should have left that morning, should have left that day
take your love and your child away

by supergrover on Jun 14, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is never a good time to start Gomes

unless it is an Atlantic Coast League Game…

I don't argue I correct.

by Yossarian22 on Jun 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that might have been me

but I was talking about Heisey, he had his left hand taped so I was just wondering if that signaled a small injury which was the reason he hadn’t been starting much. total speculation though.

by pack_fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Todd Frazier

has been out of Louisville’s starting lineup for seven days now. I don’t think Rolen has to worry about him.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

FTFY

Todd Frazier has been out of Louisville’s starting lineup for seven days now is a player in AAA. I don’t think Rolen has to worry about him.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously...

If they can’t find him regular playing time in AAA, what is the argument for keeping him down there?! He’d fit so well as a reserve on the big league club because of his ability to man third or left.

It really looks like it is time for a trade of some sort. Get on it, Walt!

by badenjr on Jun 14, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Frazier is probably injured

He’s been pinch-hitting occasionally, but never stays in the game.

He was in the starting lineup regularly until last Wednesday, so I really think he must have an injury of some sort.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last Tuesday, I mean

He’s been out of the starting lineup since last Tuesday.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure...

I think his coming off the bench has coincided pretty closely with Sappelt’s reactivation. Seems they’ve got too many players for their starting lineup to me….

by badenjr on Jun 14, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been sitting for a week

If it were a rotation, he would have been rotated in by now. He probably a minor leg injury, I’m assuming. He’s pinch-hitting, but not really running or fielding.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

not true

Sap returned Saturday. Frazier’s last appearance in the starting lineup was Monday, five days earlier.

He was playing some 1B before then. Danny Dorn’s spot. Clearly, Frazier’s higher in the Reds’ estimation than Dorn, so I doubt they’d park Todd’s butt on the bench so Danny can play every day.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

Sap basically took Brent Clevlen’s spot. Clevlen was signed out of the indy leagues, and is a CFer. Frazier never plays CF, so he really shouldn’t be affected by Sap’s return.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess you are right.

Still, Francisco, Frazier and Alonso makes three players for two positions… Those guys should all be playing every day.

by badenjr on Jun 14, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

they do, when they're all healthy

3B, LF, 1B – that’s three positions. Plus they play some games with the DH.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sketchy...

None of those guys are going to play 1B for the Reds as long as Votto is there, and defense is one of the major things these guys need to be working on. Alonso is apparently Gomes-lite with the glove, Frazier is the man without a position, and Francisco is barely adequate at third, if that. DH doesn’t exactly suit their development at this point.

by badenjr on Jun 14, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Frazier

is being groomed to be a utility guy. Therefore, playing at all three positions is part of the plan for him.

Francisco…I’m not sure about him, but the Reds are probably hoping he’s the answer for 3B, either as Rolen’s backup or as a starter.

Minor leaguers generally get one day off a week, so they can get all three playing time by shuffling them around and using the DH.

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tuesday's Run Total Distribution

Here is the run total distribution for Tuesday’s Reds/Dodgers game. The x-axis is the total runs scored (both teams combined) and the y-axis is how many times each run total occurred in 100k simulations.

by Xeifrank on Jun 14, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

odd numbers

occur more often due to the rules of baseball. There are a lot of one run games, especially won by the home team due to walk off wins (which are usually of the one run variety) and the fact that the home team does not bat in the bottom of the 9th inning when already leading. All the one run games are odd numbered totals (ie: 1-0, 2-1, 3-2, 4-3, 5-4). Thus the spikes on the odd numbered totals. Pretty interesting.

by Xeifrank on Jun 14, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

to have a 1-run game, the pitchers have to be rather evenly matched.

by kcgard2 on Jun 14, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just curious...

Why? I mean, it looks nice and all, but what is interesting about the distribution of combined runs? Am I missing something?

by badenjr on Jun 14, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a gambler (although I may qualify as a numbers geek)...

I don’t mean any offense, but I find it a bit hard to believe that I would consider wagering on the over/under for an individual baseball game just because someone put a pretty (although very easily duplicated in Excel) chart in the comments of an RR post. Do people actually do this?

by badenjr on Jun 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't we have a prediction contest on this site for every game?

I’m predicting some type of 5-run total tonight.

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody should consider

making a wager based off of this chart. You’d be dumb to do so. There is not enough data to go along with it. It wasn’t meant for that. Just that those type of people would find it “interesting”. Don’t read too much into this. :)
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jun 14, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the chart.

I’m no mathematician, but I like probability and thought it was interesting.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just bet $100,000,000,000 based on this chart

Fuck.

Well, I guess it qualifies me to work in the mortgage securities industry.

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This was an entertaining read

What’s everyone think about Coco?

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Jun 14, 2011 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

he has been very good this year

and i’m glad he has because i’ve always liked him and felt like he received a lil more criticism than he deserved. I’m just afraid that because he has been nails this year that Walt and Co. might get tempted to exercise his option

by vottomatic on Jun 14, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had some real command issues last year, which he seems to have conquered

His walks are way down. Coco can be “effectively wild” but last year, he went through stretches where I don’t think he knew where the ball was going when he released it.

He is still overpaid, in the sense that they could probably get more WAR for the money if it were spent on a starter or a position player, but he has had a very good year.

Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Jun 14, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they exercise his option, I'm going to hit the roof

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jun 14, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like houses for ants.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think there's any way that happens

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 14, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I could see them maybe asking him back (maybe)

but not at 12 million. No way.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm bad with contracty stuff

could they offer him arb and get picks if he declines?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jun 14, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

or does the option negate that?

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jun 14, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, they could decline the option and offer arb

 But I think the rules of arb stipulate that you have to offer a certain % of the player’s most recent salary. I’m pretty sure the arb offer would have to be a minimum of 8 million or so (maybe more), so arbitration is definitely off the table as well.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh. I was trying to find the percentage and I came across a BP article

That lists what is permissible in an arbitration hearing.

-The quality of the player’s contribution to his club during the past season (including but not limited to his overall performance, special qualities of leadership and public appeal).
—The length and consistency of his career contribution.
—The record of the player’s past compensation.
—Comparative baseball salaries (the arbitration panel is provided with a table of confidential baseball salaries for all players broken down by years of service).
-
The existence of any physical or mental defects on the part of the player.
—The recent performance of the club, including but not limited to his league standing and attendance

Sheesh, that’s ugly. No wonder no one ever wants to go to arbitration.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, screw you html code.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fail to see the use for it

no one uses it, and it fucks up peoples comments. get rid of it.

by pack_fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

'creds got punished for being lazy is all :)

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 15, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting stuff in there

I though it was solely based off of player performance and comparative contracts

by pack_fan on Jun 14, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was more thinking he'd decline

gotta think Coco wants one more decent sized contract

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jun 14, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That rule only applies to guys under team control

If a player is otherwise eligible for FA, the team can offer whatever they want.

by ken on Jun 14, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they can offer him arb

that might be the move I make, honestly (maybe he would get way more than he is worth though). I’m not against having him back.

by pack_fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's tasty and best when served hot.

We need Brandon Larson to Play 3rd! Can't be worse than Rentawreck, right?!?

by BiggerRedMachines on Jun 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw on ESPN Rumors

a story about Hamels’ future in Philly. The Phils have plenty of top of the rotation pitching and are a bit starved for some right handed outfield help. Probably very slim chance that the Phils actually consider it but just wanted to throw it out there and get some people’s thoughts.

by vottomatic on Jun 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Jonny Gomes for Cole Hamels, straight up.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way it would happen, but i'd be thrilled if we got him

Dude’s pitching out of his mind this year

Fuck it, we'll do it live.

by DTFH91 on Jun 14, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang it. I shoulda read further...

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just in

Kyle Lotzkar has joined Dayton!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

And Zach Stewart has been called up to the Blue Jays

while Scott Rolen nurses another injury. We’ve lost the trade!!!!!!!

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by Slyde on Jun 14, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Stewart is expected to make his big league debut on Saturday in Cincinnati.

Duh duh duh.

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by Slyde on Jun 14, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stewart has been fairly terrible for the Jays.

2 seasons in AA, and in his repeat season his K/9 is down to 6.33. Good control, must have good GB#s too, but still has a 3.7 FIP this year and was at 4.2 in 136 innings last year. Seems like good value to me.

by jsl413 on Jun 14, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats!

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by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great jorb!

"Wait, you think I'm being mean to the pretend orangutan?" -- battlekow

by jch24 on Jun 14, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Now I’ve just got to find a place to live ASAP. Kind of a daunting task.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the (soon to be) Metro area!

Might I suggest something in the West Falls Church area?

by Brendanukkah on Jun 14, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but why?

I’d really like to be able to walk to actual stuff.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Working in Tyson's?

Give up your dream of walking to things immediatement.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 14, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do still have those grand plans to make half of Tyson's Corner an outdoor mall,

so if you wait four or five years, you can pretend you are in a real city while you shop at Pacific Sunwear and Polo Jeans.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know it won't happen where I work

but it’s still possible to live somewhere between there are DC that I might actually like. That’s where I’m planning to look.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lived in the Ballston area when I first moved to DC

It’s not that far from Tyson’s, and has a “downtown” that’s easily walkable. You’re also close to Clarendon and its nightlife, and a couple of Metro stations. Quite a nice area. And, since you’re such a big hockey fan, the Caps practice facility is there.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 14, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was thinking somewhere in Arlington...

maybe there, or maybe the Rosslyn side. Somewhere within walking distance of a metro station and other actual stuff.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try up Wilson Blvd a bit from Rosslyn; Rosslyn itself is a bit bleak.

I do think Clarendon has gotten a lot better too, and Courthouse itself is somewhat bland but close to Clarendon. Also, some of the in-between-neighborhood areas are close enough to stuff but likely to be a bit cheaper.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Courthouse is nice

And it’s not as expensive as Clarendon

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Jun 14, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I think we discussed a bunch of game threads, winning and losing streaks ago,

that area used to be really annoying and fratty, but since I left DC in 2007 a goodly number of interesting coffee and restaurant places have popped up, fulfilling the optimistic vision promised by the Iota Club and thwarting the bleak prospect of a lineup of convention center-sized “Irish” bars.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Not For Tourists book on DC is awesome.

And they have a website! Here’s what they say about Falls Church, but you can use it to read up on other neighborhoods, too.

by the finest muffins on Jun 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, welcome to the DC area (though I'm not there at the moment!)

You could always do what I did when I got a job offer that was to start a week later: sublet for a month while you find the right place.

by the finest muffins on Jun 14, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's my fallback plan...

mainly I just have a ton to do in the next few weeks, what with moving out of here and finding another place and tying up loose ends with people here. Lots of moving parts!

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's best not to say bye to anyone,

just shove off. They’ll miss you more that way.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still not a candidate...

but I will be employed at something over $15,000/year, which should be nice.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Jun 14, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well done, and congrats!

I heard Starbucks offers health insurance, is that true? :-)

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is not true;

however, if you drink the coffee every day, you will be very regular.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup

Stubbs 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Bruce 9
Rolen 5
Heisey 7
Hernandez 2
Janish 6
Cueto RHP

by vottomatic on Jun 14, 2011 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Why did I think Gomes was starting tonight?

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jun 14, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heisey gets another shot!

Though I think I would have sat Stubbers and started Gomes (Heisey in CF). Stubbs seems like he needs one of those off days

by chazzilla on Jun 14, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a bad idea

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jun 14, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, although I could also foresee Stubbs going 0-4 with 4 Ks

but for some reason, of all the faults of the players on the team, I am strangely OK with Stubbs and his strikeouts. I’m perfectly happy with a .260ish hitting above-average CF who hits @ 20 homers and steals 40+

Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"

by UncleWeez on Jun 14, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and and OBP which is north of .300

which is a nice change from the last number of years out of the lead off spot.

by pack_fan on Jun 14, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stubbs leads the NL in runs scored

and is 10th in total times on base.

I’d say he’s doing just fine.

As an aside, Joey Votto has been on base 20 more times than the next closest player.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's doing great out of the lead off spot

I’ve been very satisfied with his performance so far. plus its not out of the question that as he gets older he may cut his K% a little.

by pack_fan on Jun 14, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems like the kind of player that will go through stretches where he strikes out a ton

And the final numbers will end up around 30%.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to him?

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jun 14, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has some sort of bandage on his hand

my guess is that he stabbed Sean Bean outside a bar.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jun 14, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

This one is neck and neck!

I’m glad we can settle it once and for all based on Stewart’s start Saturday.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is true

Let’s revisit the Hernandez trade.

Justin Turner is the starting 2B for the Mets. He’s hitting .284!

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Livan Hernandez is connected to a drug cartel!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

.284/.333/.397

thats one of the weakest .284s I’ve seen.

"You said 'walks' twice."
"I like walks."

by Cy Schourek on Jun 14, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

Have you seen the Reds 2B’s numbers? (Hint: .284/.344/.393)

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by Slyde on Jun 14, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy with this lineup.

Maybe swap Hernandez and Rolen, but I’ll take it.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Jun 14, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick question for the Columbus RR's...

I am back in Columbus for work this week and my hotel does not have FS-O, so it presents a problem I never had to deal with when living here in needing to find a place with the game on.

Any recommendations of a sports bar that will still be serving food at 10 and be open until 1 for the entirety of the game (and preferably a place I can plug in my laptop as well). I’m staying in Grandview, so I’d like to stay in the Grandview/Upper Arlington area and not have to pay for parking.

by Nasty N8 on Jun 14, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

tonights game is on MLB network

but then again if you don’t get FSO, you probably don’t get MLB Network

by vottomatic on Jun 14, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm late to the party, but Grandview Cafe would have it on.

Also, Byrne’s Pub is a hole in the wall, but a good little pub.

Jimmy V’s – so so

There’s a BWs on 5th and also a Brazenhead which would probably have it on in the basement

Calmer than you are.

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jun 15, 2011 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jeter just got DLed, so he won't be breaking the 3,000 hit barrier in Cincinnati

He won’t even be playing in Cincinnati. Kind of a bummer, that. I’m sure whoever his replacement is is better than he.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

fuckin' Bankees.

They’ll probably move A-Rod back to short and trade for Zimmerman by the time they get here.

No problem, fuckweasel! - jch24

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Jun 14, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eduardo Nunez

He’s no Paul Janish.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 14, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He won't like playing in St. Louis

where the Cardinals’ tears make for a very soppy infield.

On the serial tip though, I do fear our division rivals making a big deadline move. Maybe the Brewers blew their wad in the offseason, though they may have $ to spend based on where payroll was in 2010. And downstream space if they’re cutting Fielder loose. I’ll defer to ol Pete. The Cards are always a threat. Can’t rule out an insane deal if they’re convinced Pujols is going to fly the coop.

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 14, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither team really has any trade chips in the minors with which to make a significant deal.

The Cardinals had to trade from their major league roster last year just to get Westbrook. The only good pieces they have are A ball pitchers with a ton of risk, and Shelby Miller, who they ain’t trading.

The Brewers, after they traded for Greinke, are left with what is largely considered the worst farm system in the league.

Either team could get creative and trade for a spare part or middle reliever, but neither of them are getting a difference maker.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I figured the Brewers were done

I’m sure they want a shortstop though. Draft haul can’t be traded for a year right?

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 14, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't matter

There won’t be a significant upgrade at SS available that any 2011 pick would get, save maybe their 1st rounder. Even though they are all in for this year, I can’t see them doing that.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the thread to start fights?

Zack Cozart doubled in his first AB tonight, his 23rd of the year.

OPS now at .893.

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

His BABIP is ridiculous

"Good luck, National League managers – I have no idea how you’re supposed to get this guy out." - Dave Cameron on Joey Votto

by Grahamophone on Jun 14, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ridiculously awesome!

Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks

by nycredsfan on Jun 14, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would only be a single in MLB,

and he would have gotten thrown out because he’d round the bag the wrong way.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Jun 14, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the bright lights didn't blind him first

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 14, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then Jonny Gomes would rip out his throat.

Bringing Zack Cozart to the majors would end his career.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Jun 14, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pun-riddled headlines would also bring shame on his family

Must-C Coz-y 3-run HR, with Short Porch!

An Early 21st C. Cozart’s Masterpiece!

Would you like any Cozart?

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jun 14, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Of course, Gomes would be doing Cozart a favor...

Putting the poor kid out of his misery after the immense psychological terror inflicted upon him from the booing crowds (which is in comparison to the Minor Leagues where the fans are like Tennis Hooligans)

by Nasty N8 on Jun 14, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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