This is . . . not good.
John Fay gives us this gem from Volquez, quoted after another horrible start.
Also according to Fay, Dusty said the Reds are "mulling over" Volquez's future.
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This is downright humorous.
I just have no clue how he can actually believe that…
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
He is technically correct.
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by RedinWrigleyville on May 22, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Actually, no.
It’s 12 runs in the last five games.
Of course, they’ve scored 4 runs twice and 3 in another. They scored 4 in Volquez’s start, but that’s how many runs he gave up in the first inning. Yes, one of those was unearned, but he allowed three more in the next two innings.
Still not a candidate.
Not to mention the team was MLB's highest scoring offense coming into this series
I’m wondering if there was anything that preceded this quote. Or if it was really just:
Q: Why’d you pitch so poorly?
A: We need to score more runs.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the way it looks in the article, but I think it almost had to be something else.
Even if he really is that egotistical, I’d like to think he’s smart enough not to do that to his public image. I think it almost had to be different than it appears when you look at the actual context, but I’m just not sure.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
over the last week
The Reds are MLB’s 19th highest scoring offense.
Luck probably is a big part of it. But I’m wondering…are they slumping now, or were they playing above themselves before?
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They wer right on their Pythag this week, I think
Which, I think, would mean they were playing at the right level
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
ugh
So this is a .285 winning percentage team?
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It's not just luck.
It’s just how things go. The Reds are still just a hair behind the Cardinals for the league lead in runs/game, but some days they’re going to score more than 5 runs, and other days they’re going to score less. Some days they’ll even score exactly 5 runs.
Still not a candidate.
And they're not too bipolar on offense
It just happens that the last four games have averaged 2 runs/g.
The RS rate isn’t the result of a few 20-0 blowouts and then otherwise low production. Otherwise, they’d either have fewer wins or a luckier record against their Pythag.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The Reds had the highest scoring offense and highest team OPS+
in 2010 too, with similar personnel. At a certain point, it’s OK to believe that this is an offensively productive team. Not MLB’s best offense necessarily, but certainly among the 2 or 3 best in the NL.
Phillips and CMM are overachieving – and Stubbs to a certain extent. But they’re probably at least balanced by the under-performance of Bruce, Rolen and LF (minus any time Heisey subs in).
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I also imagine Janish will hit a little better than he is right now once they get into the thick of the season.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
I hope so
It’d really be something to hit worse than he is right now
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
could be worse
He didn’t get on base the first three games after he came back from the sprained ankle, then got on the next three games.
I’d like to see Dusty give him more playing time. He’s playing just over half the time now, and that’s not enough for a guy who’s still adjusting to big league pitching. He needs to be playing 80-90% of the games, like he was earlier in the season.
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I think it almost doesn't matter what Janish does on offense
Or, at least, it’s not worth thinking about very hard. No one internally is likely to make up his value this season. Bringing in a shortstop who can hit, at the deadline, is pretty unlikely. I don’t see Reyes or Stephen Drew coming to town.
The offense is good. LF production can be improved by adjusting PT and possibly through a less risky, more feasible trade. Hit him 8th and go get a SP.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying it's time to replace him right now or anything.
What I’m saying is that the poor production he’s given will probably improve a little and that also offsets the fact that CMM and BP are playing over their heads at the moment.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
agree that starting pitching is the biggest need
Reds are now second in runs scored among all MLB teams. (So much for the theory that AL teams score more.)
Defense is okay. They’re 11th in fielding percentage and 10th in defensive efficiency.
Relief pitching is 18th in ERA and 17th in WHIP.
Starting pitching is 26th in ERA. That’s third from the bottom, because they’re tied with the Twins and the Royals. Only the Cubs and Astros are worse.
Starting pitching is clearly where they most need improvement. And it’s likely to be an even bigger issue in the post-season, should they get there.
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Their 2 biggest needs in my opinion are
Middle of the order LF, or Ace starting pitcher. Just going out and acquiring more pitching that is similar to the pieces we already have seems like a bad direction to take. If its a SP they go after, that SP better be a #1 or close.
agree about the pitching
The Reds need an ace. We saw how valuable that is in the post-season last year.
Don’t think LF is a real need. They have one of the best offenses in MLB baseball already. There are a lot of in-house options for LF. Platoon Gomes and Lewis. Let Heisey play. Call up Frazier.
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The problem, though, as I see it
is that it’s probably easier to get a decent upgrade in LF than it is to get a decent upgrade at SP. What SPs are going to be available this summer? Jason Marquis? Erik Bedard? It’s slim pickins out there in that regard.
Of course, I can’t think of any good LFs out there that could be available, either.
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
that was the theory in the off-season
The past two years. But there hasn’t been anyone worth the money and/or prospects.
Making a move would be mortgaging the future to some extent. We aren’t going to get someone who can really help otherwise. And it might be worth it. The division is wide-open right now. Only the Astros have no chance of winning it; even the Pirates have a non-zero chance. And we only have Votto three more years. So it might be worth making a move. But only for a player who can really make a difference now.
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I agree with that
a left fielder who can hit and play defense would help the Reds win more games but they really need a pitcher who isn’t a total mismatch against Roy Halliday and Cliff Lee.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
the reason I think its a "need" (maybe not a need necessarily)
is that even though the offense is good, why not make it better? it would give protection for Votto, move BP back to his better spot in the order, and leaves the bottom of the order in really good shape. Just because its a strength doesnt mean we can’t make it better. as noted below we should be worried about beating guys like Halladay and Lee, and we can do that with offense too.
we can't do it with offense
Just ask the Yankees.
One of the stat sites did an analysis of what makes for post season success, and hitting wasn’t on the list. It was power pitching, a good closer, and defense. The reason? Luck. The short post-season series mean luck plays a huge role. That means even the best hitters might not hit. Power pitchers and good defense are less vulnerable to chance.
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They had the best offense in the league last year
so I highly doubt they were playing over their heads since Opening Day 2010 and now have come to Earth. They are slumping.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I.....what?
Is he high?
Or having a heat stroke?
What the fuck?
Please tell me he laughed after saying that.
Maybe it's the fumes coming off of his stinky hair style.
Cut the shitlocks off and pound the strike zone.
by Im_a_fun_haver on May 22, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
my HS baseball coach agreed.
Took me 16 years to grow that stuble and I had to shave it…damn shame!
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
by DocRam on May 22, 2011 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
haha
My rugby coach makes sure that everybody on the team is shaven, has their uniform nice and clean, etc.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
From what i know of rugby players, they should look dirty and have beards
shaved and clean isn’t what rugby is about.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it's just a lack of focus.
He needed to get his ass ripped after he dogged it out of the batters box and almost cost the Reds that big inning against the Cardinals.
by Im_a_fun_haver on May 23, 2011 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if that was all he said in the interview
or if Fya is editorializing. Did he comment on his performance at all? If he just said that they need to score runs, then he needs to get his humongous head out of his ass and take some responsibility.
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
Yeah, I really want to see the context of this quote
still should never say things like this, you’d think that was common knowledge, but I’m wondering what the question was and what else he said in the interview. He really should just not talk about the offense at all.
jeez
What a train wreck.
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I have a feeling they will send him down to the minors
If for nothing else than to teach him some humility. Who do they replace him with in the rotation? Dontrelle? Leake? LeCure?
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 22, 2011 6:14 PM EDT reply actions
Willis left the last game after being hit by a line drive.
No idea how serious it was.
I’d give it to Sam, and let Leake continue to work in the minors. His first start down there ddn’t go well.
by Chester Drawers on May 22, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Tomorrow's FO will be focused on this, as well as the possibility of a new position player.
I think LeCure has certainly earned another crack at the rotation. He had a so-so ERA as a starter (4.79) but that was largely because of 4 homers in 4 starts. That, I think, will be his biggest downfall. He’s very homer prone. But everything else looks great. His LD% is low, he has 26 Ks and just 7 walks in 30.1 IP.
Having said that, he’s been much better in the pen, and I think it’d be a shame to take him from a role he’s flourishing in. It’s a tough call.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
LeCure is the man, probably
As it stands, the 4th and 5th starters are probably going to need some help from the offense.
In truth, that’s how this team was designed to succeed anyhow.
When you get 1 run for Bailey, that hurts. I will live and die in a pennant race with the way this guy has been pitching. That’s a game we have to win.
I do a lot of stupid shit, but I'm not an idiot. - JCH24
So was the first game. Up 4 in the 6th, then the wheels come off
This weekend was an unfortunate combo of sloppy play and bad luck.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
by nycredsfan on May 22, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You left no room for Black Magic
or God’s desire to set the world right after the Reds robbed the Indians in the Brandon Phillips trade.
by Cuetotally Amazing on May 22, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I go with Leake personally
I dont think you can say LeCure will give us much more than Leake would, and it leaves LeCure in a role he’s done well in.
I don't know where to find the stats
but it seems LeCure has no trouble the first time through the order but he gets into trouble the second time around. I really think his future is in relief.
The other option is, but the Reds aren’t going to do it, is to stretch Chapman out on his rehab, have a filler like LeCure or Maloney, and if the chosen filler is failing, it can be Chapman time if Volquez hasn’t straightened himself out yet.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Beware SSS
1st time/2nd time/3rd time through the lineup
.601/.719/.1.682 OPS against
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
That's only 36 PAs each in the 1st and 2nd time
and only 13 the 3rd time. He has 38 PAs against as a reliever with a .413 OPS against.
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems likely
’Tude was a problem in Texas too and I think a sub-rosa reason he was traded.
I don’t know how much humility we can expect him to develop, but if he’s delusional about how poorly he’s pitching, it doesn’t help to keep running him out there. Sending him down might not give him perspective, but it could be confidence-boosting and allow him to work out his issues without dragging down the big league club.
Given his history – and the fact that his issues are tied in part to pitching at the beginning of the game, rather than quality of competition or mechanical issue/velocity decline – it could be mostly psychological. Maybe there’s sports shrink on the case.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So, in essence, we swapped one asshole
for another asshole.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on May 22, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I thik LeCure
since he has a good amount of starting experience this year and has done alright , for a fifth starter
His time has come
And seriously why not? Leake did nothing in his first AAA start to earn a promotion back to Cincinnati, and could probably stand to spend more time in Louisville. LeCure has found his niche in the bullpen and is much more useful as a relief pitcher than a starter, and Willis just fucking scares me. If Maloney gets bombed out of the big leagues give somebody else a chance. Lets see if he is worth a roster spot.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
See below.
They’re calling him up, I think.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
If I'm not mistaken he speaks very good English.
Definitely good enough to where the “language barrier” won’t make him sound like that much of a jackass.
Of course, you could be right. It’s possible that he was saying they just need to play better all around because they’re losing right now. “Leaders” say that all the time, and if that’s what he meant I guess it’s fine. But looking at his word choice, it sure seems like he was deflecting blame.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
So, Chapman is headed to L-ville
to make a start this week? Wonder how many innings he’ll go.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
So....
Anyone know how to heal a worn out arm (threw 120 pitches) in two days?
LTP is for Stubbs only!
Sheldon's take
Edinson Volquez had a rough day and has been having an inconsistent season. That made his postgame comments after a 12-4 loss all the more curious.
"I think everybody has to step up and start getting some runs," Volquez said. "The last five games, we’ve scored how many runs? Thirteen in five games? (Actually 12). It’s not the way we were playing last year. We’re better than that."
Keep in mind that Volquez allowed seven runs (six earned) with seven hits, four walks, one hit batter and three strikeouts. He is 3-3 with a 6.35 ERA this season. His first inning ERA is 18.00
Stay tuned, because I can’t see that comment going over well.
Reds manager Dusty Baker indicated changes could be afoot and that he might not keeping rolling Volquez out there.
"We’re mulling that around now," Baker said. "Last time, he was a lot better. This outing, he didn’t start off well again. We’ve got discuss what to do."
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Could be that a little face-to-face could help a few of these men.
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holy guacamole
I just saw the footage from the tornadoes in Kansas, Iowa, and Minnesota.
How’s the weather in St. Louis and Cincinnati now?
They said tomorrow will be worse, with possible tornadoes as far east as Pittsburgh.
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We had some nasty crap in NW Indiana, haven't heard of any damage here.
I do a lot of stupid shit, but I'm not an idiot. - JCH24
There was just some crazy random hail storm here in Cincy with a ton of rain and lightning.
That’s not a very good sign.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Joplin got hit hard.
We got some hail here in Columbia. No tornadoes though.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Volquez can pretty much go fuck himself.
I’m not happy with that comment. I hope Rolen beats the shit out of him.
Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson
Maybe or maybe not.
Probably maybe not. I was a little mad when I first read the quote.
Why are you working the permit's desk, and why was that child clubbing your nuggets? ~ Ron Swanson
by BigBabyBruce on May 22, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
You should have been
it pisses me off too. You dont throw your teammates under the bus like this, especially after an outing where you sucked. frickin insane.
Not if you just watched Bat Lieutenant: POCNO last night
like I did.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I admit I overreacted to this at first
and assumed Volquez must be a terrible person for heaping this insult on injury, but I think it would be better to just paraphrase Mr. Knightley here:
“Badly done Edinson, badly done”
It is a shitty thing to say
and if I am Walt Jockety and I wasn’t sure if sending him out was the best option, now I am. But if he gets his shit together and returns to 2008 form, I will love him just like I love Matt Maloney.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't really care what the guy says to reporters
I care about how he pitches. And he’s not one of the 5 best pitchers in this organization. He has the stuff to be, but he isn’t. Leake, Willis, LeCure; somebody should be taking his spot shortly.
does anyone have an update on Willis' health?
If he’s healthy I wouldn’t mind seeing him up here. His AAA stats are really, really good.
"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428
Yeah, and left the game...
but I don’t see any mention of how he was after that.
Still not a candidate.
Hopefully he is alright
We are in need. Who wouldve thought that with our depth of starting pitching in the beginning of the season would wither away
LTP is for Stubbs only!
Thing is
our starting pitching is still looking pretty good. We seem to have three solid starters in Arroyo, Cueto, and Bailey. Wood’s looking pretty good, too. And we can have one of Leake/Volquez/LeCure/Willis as our #5.
Still not a candidate.
But Leake and Volquez are both struggling
I like Lecure in the pen and Willis is getting unlucky with injuries
LTP is for Stubbs only!
Willis out with a groin injury?
From Ask Hal
Q Does it look as if Dontrelle Willis will be brought up after he returns from his injury? — Mark, Columbus
A It is believed that Willis would have been called up when Aroldis Chapman went down, but Willis injured his groin. With Chapman down, the Reds could use another left-hander in the bullpen, and in addition to providing that left arm, Willis could give the Reds a matching pair of dazzling smiles — Willis and Brandon Phillips.
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Doesn't sound like he was doing so great before he was pulled
but it was only two innings, and two of the three runs he gave up were unearned.
Still not a candidate.
Yes, that too
it seems like he isn’t getting the fielding he needs recently.
LTP is for Stubbs only!
Was that not from today?
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Ah, gotcha
I had seen that and something from teh Fay and it appeared to indicate he may be out a while…or at least he won’t be the first to be called up from AAA with whatever happened on Saturday with the line drive off the leg
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
a matching pair of dazzling smiles
Rick Santorum telling my father [he] doesn't know about torture is like Carrot Top telling Lebron James he doesn't know about basketball." Meghan McCain
by Madville on May 23, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And a quick soft-shoe
whenever Fya demands it.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on May 23, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I'm not arguing that they're all ideal
but having those guys in the mix for a #5 isn’t so bad with the other four we’ve got right now.
Still not a candidate.
Here's what Volquez should have said
“I sure did suck today. I just plain sucked. I’ve had some sucky starts before, but that was the suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked.”
"This is the St. Louis Cardinals we're talking about. They suck. Screw them. With a shovel. The sharp metal end. And then set them on fire." - crolfer
by rorschach1979 on May 22, 2011 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
LeCure probably would have said something like that
then try to console us with optimistic, warm words. A decent pitcher and a life coach!
e.g.
My face is worn out, my #mustache just finished an intense lift, prolly gonna have to ice it. #mustachestrengthtraining
Still not a candidate.
by Gray on May 22, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol exactly
I have to admit I find his stuff comforting; especially last year after that 4 game sweep in Colorado. That was a brow beating
Let's play guess the future Ace
a. “That can’t happen. I’ve got to find a way to bear down and get some outs. You have to get out of that.”
b. “Everybody has to step up … start to score some runs.”
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
You win a free bow-shot
wild boar from Homer Bailey!
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on May 22, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
this is not big deal
we should just continue to make excuses for the guy & let him keep his free pass
waaa ooooo waaa oooo! Sound the siren, it's a SNARK ALERT!
(I agree with the snark. Dude has been the suck)
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
Duuuuuuuuh, duh... Duuuuuuuuh, duh... Dududududududududududududu... Duduluduhhhhhhhhh!!!
it’s a snark attack!
Red Reporter: Where every week is snark week.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
by nycredsfan on May 22, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
It's kind of impressive though
He’s just so damn bad, especially in the first inning. There’s a bit of morbid fascination in seeing just how bad he can continue to get. Of course, there’s also the small matter of contending for the playoffs.
by Brendanukkah on May 22, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This is ridiculous.
I think we know why Volquez has been pitching poorly. It’s all mental. He doesn’t have the emotional or mental maturity to handle pitching in the big leagues right now. He could take a lesson from guys like Travis Wood, and even Homer Bailey as of late. Looks like Cueto has grown up pretty well too.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Breakdown?
Could it be a Nervous Breakdown
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
For what it's worth
Fya is blasting Volquez on twitter tonight. In chronological order:
RT @dbaybucks @johnfayman Let’s hope that was a miscommunication via language barriers.//It’s not I listened to it on tape.
I think if volquez is sent down or skipped, LeCure will get the start. #Reds
Didn’t think optioning Volquez was an option until he said what he said today. Not smart. Showed he’s unaware of the problem. #reds
RT @Reddy_Dean: @johnfayman Do they have a cure for Denialitis?//small dose of aaa
Still not a candidate.
wow that's bold
@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on May 22, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Moves that need to be made
1. J Smith to AAA, D Willis up, and Volquez to bullpen. As soon as Willis is healthy. EV needs a “Come to Jesus” meeting with Dusty and be given one more chance to start just to prove they shouldn’t send him to AAA with “shoulder inflamation.”
2. I think its about time this offense gets to see what Alonso can do if put in left field, Screw his defense, with Stubbs, Rolen, and Janish, LF defense don’t matter. Lewis and Heisey are 4th or 5th outfielders, and Gomes is earning himself a DFA.
@AroldisChapman.....is fun to follow on twiiter!
by Dave from Louisville on May 22, 2011 11:06 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with Smith to AAA
He was supposed to get some seasoning there until Chapman went off the reservation.
The team doesn’t have an off-day until June 2, so they need fresh arms. Swap out Smith for Maloney. Maloney can have long-man duty and Volquez can be available to throw an inning when he’d normally have his side session. Volquez would probably benefit most from being sent down, but there aren’t a lot of good options to replace him – depending on Willis injury status and the willingness to add him to the 40-man right now. It’s Carlos Fisher, DRH or wait for Chapman.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 22, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Maloney blows chunks
Rick Santorum telling my father [he] doesn't know about torture is like Carrot Top telling Lebron James he doesn't know about basketball." Meghan McCain
Volquez needs to go to AAA or be in the Cincinnati rotation
If he can’t control his stuff when he’s starting, he certainly wont as a reliever. and if you move him to the long man spot he might come in and make it worse enough that you have to replace him, which does nothing to save your pen which is essentially what the long man is for. he’s either a starter or nothing in my mind.
Janish can be long man B.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm intrigued by the idea of moving EV to the 'pen
One of my fixations this season is divining Coco’s successor. Volquez sure has the stuff for the job. Maybe he’d be more comfortable coming out of the ’pen?
by Charlie Scrabbles on May 23, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He's just a little crazy and unhinged at times
Not sure if that’ll work in high pressure situations
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
See, I think it's the opposite.
I think he’s almost too laid back. He never seems bothered by much of anything, as evidenced by these comments. I think he’d probably have a short memory too.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
I kind of feel this way
he never seems rattled or upset. A big difference between Volquez and Cueto in 2008 was Cueto would have a few things go the other way and he would start over throwing, falling off the mound, where Volquez didn’t seem to really get worked up.
Hell Dusty said the reason Volquez was the opening day starting rather than Cueto (prior to Cueto’s injury) was Volquez doesn’t “think” as much as Cueto.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it might.
When everyone was clamoring for Bailey to go to the pen, I always thought it made more sense for Volkie. He can focus on his 2 dominant pitches, he could probably dial the FB up to 97-98 in short outings, and he doesn’t have to worry about pitch counts.
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
But he needs to throw that 97-98 MPH fastball for strikes right out of the gate in relief.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a hard time believing
That the Reds bring up Yonder and give him a shot, especially with Heisey and Lewis not getting their shot.
And I don’t want Edison anywhere near the bullpen. His first inning is the challenge. He’d be just about worthless out there.
I don’t know of any AAA pitchers I’d trust right now. Any AA guys that might help?
by Chester Drawers on May 22, 2011 11:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I see the Cards
won in extras.
Second place is on the line tomorrow.
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Sounds like Matt Maloney is coming to Philadelphia. Not sure of the corresponding roster move.
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He made a start on the 19th, so he'd be fresh to take LeCure's spot as long reliever
The question is whether they’d send down Smith or Volquez (or both?)
Maloney could cover for LeCure tomorrow and Tues. and then make Volquez’s next start, but that’s not very efficient. My guess is LeCure makes that start and Maloney’s in the pen.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on May 23, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
What does Maloney have to do to get a crack at the rotation?
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
that makes sense
It’s Condom Arm going tonight, so hopefully the pen will get a rest.
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his wife's twitter offers a cryptic clue
pleasantly surprised tonight ;D …even though it means added days until I see Mo
by marshmallow on May 23, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Stalker alert
Who follows a mediocre middle-relievers’ wife’s Twitter account?
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by OHSnap on May 23, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh, lots of us do.
Once you get past the 95% yoga-related posts, there is the occasional transaction-related nugget.
by Cuetotally Amazing on May 23, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
she's probably just entered into an exciting new affair
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by boobs on May 23, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So first you read about Volquez on Fay's blog
then you scroll down enough and read this:
Travis Wood got a no-decision Friday night. But he took the blame for the Reds’ 5-4 loss.
"That six inning was unbelievable," he said. "That can’t happen. I’ve got to find a way to bear down and get some outs. You have to get out of that."
Why don't they even consider stretching Chapman out on his rehab?
At least give themselves another option?
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
depends what Chapman wants to do if you ask me
I’m not going to jerk him around between starting and relieving unless he asks me to.
Seriously, you are going to ask the guy who you are giving $30M what he wants to do?
is this a joke? He is a Cincinnati Reds employee. If they want him to start he starts. If they want him to close he closes, if they want him to hit lead off and play center field he does. If they want him to sell hot dogs in the stands, well for thirty fucking million he better grab some extra mustard.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
before the year, hell yeah I tell him what he needs to do
after making this decision to put him in the pen you live with it if you ask me. They move him off the role, send him to AAA, have him start his season all over again, wouldn’t you think it would be best if he was ok with the move? I dont see how having him learn to start when his head isn’t into it is going to teach him anything. And given his control problems do you really think it would turn out any different than Volquez if he was needed in cincy? I just don’t see it as a good move, as much as I’d love to see him as a starter.
I would tell him our needs have changed
we needed you as a reliever, and now we would like to have you available as a starter. And just because he gets stretched out a bit in AAA doesn’t mean he has to start, if he doesn’t seem able to, or somebody else steps up they can always put him in the MLB bullpen again.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
before I put him ANYwhere
I want to see him throw some strikes and hit at least high-90s on the gun. If he can’t do those two things, we have a bigger problem than what inning to hand him the ball.
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fair enough, maybe he could be convinced
I still haven’t seen enough control from him so far that makes me think he would be able to help in that role, even if he were to be convinced. If he wanted to head down to the bus league and learn to be a starter, I say go for it, but if he wants badly enough to help the big club and wants to do it as a reliever, then I say that’s his best role. If I have any ideas of stretching him out as a starter, I do it from day 1.
I say just use his rehab stint
I think having him spend 3 weeks in AAA working every five days as a starter will probably be good for him, as it will give him regular work, and also give him the chance to correct himself over the course of 50-80 pitches. If he does really well he can be an MLB starting pitcher, if looks like he did last year in the AAA rotation put him back in the Cincinnati bullpen.
I don’t think their is anything that crazy about this idea.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
I'll yield because it would also force him to use his secondary pitches
Still, I think its highly unlikely he shows enough control to become a starter worthy of a MLB rotation in 3 weeks.
i feel the same way
but at least it gives us another option, and if Volquez doesn’t shape up in AAA (hopefully), if Leake doesn’t seem to be improving, and if LeCure and/or Maloney aren’t cutting it in the big leagues, or if their is an injury. it would be nice to have an option not named Dontreal Willis,
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
i heard/read somewhere that he would be starting in AAA
but can’t remember from where. so i could be wrong but i think they might start him on the basis that he’ll be able to get more work in
they do that sometims, but only have the guy pitch an inning or two
i seem to remember when Kent Mercker was rehabbing in 2008 he started a game and pitched an inning so he would have plenty of time to prepare for his appearance, and a member of the Bats rotation took over for him in the second.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
via Fay's page his rehab only lasts until the end of the month
and it sounds like they’re thinking about bringing him back to Cincy once its done.
that was bad writing
he can return from the DL at the end of the month, minor league rehabs last for 20 days starting the first day he is sent on the assignment.
Chapman hasn’t been assigned to rehab yet, so if he starts rehabbing tomorrow he has 20 days starting tomorrow.
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah Fay probably should have written it like this:
"His time (required to spend on the 15 day DL) is up at the end of month," pitching coach Bryan Price said. "Hopefully, he can get three outings in with Louisville and be ready to go."
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
Volquez, let me begin with an obvious question?
"If I am a high school teacher preparing to gang bang the senior class."-Johnu1
I think he does
He wasn’t on Sheldon’s list of Reds players who are out of options.
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we all have options.
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by Yossarian22 on May 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
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