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La Russa Cleverly Pitches His Closer in the 8 Hole, Blows Game in Unconventional Yet Genius Way. Reds win, 5-3.

Brandon Phillips declines the invitation to the Whinin' Cheese party.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Miguel Cairo.  Only four Reds had hits in this game, and Cairo's drove in the winning runs.  Also, Cairo is a much better city located on the Mississippi.  Honorable mentions go to Joey Votto and Francisco Cordero.

Key Plays

  • After a scoreless first inning for the first time in what seemed like an eternity, the Reds gave up some runs in the second inning instead.  Noted Reds killer Lance Berkman hit a double, and then scored when David Freese threatened Gotham with his ice ray singled.  Cardinals lead, 1-0.
  • Noted douchebag Chris Carpenter hit a double off of Travis Wood in the third inning.  Ryan Theriot sacrificed him to third, and... wait, Ryan Theriot was leading off?  Jesus.  Anyway, Colby Rasmus hit a sacrifice fly.  Cardinals lead, 2-0.
  • The glorious comeback began in the sixth inning.  Brandon Phillips, whom every Cardinals fan would love to have playing second base for them, walked and Joey Votto, who is better than Albert Pujols, homered.  Game tied, 2-2.
  • Pujols did homer in the bottom of the sixth, but it was only a solo shot and therefore only half as good as Votto's.  Cardinals lead, 3-2.
  • Then the rains came.
  • In the eighth inning, with Miguel Batista on the bump, Drew Stubbs hit a ball to third base that David Freese threw away.  Stubbs used his speed to turn a seeming groundout into a Dynamic Duo.  Standing on second base with two outs, Stubbs watched as Joey Votto was intentionally walked, and Jonny Gomes was hit by a pitch to load the bases.  Trever Miller came in and walked Jay Bruce, forcing in Stubbs as the tying run.  Then Ryan Franklin, still doing his impression of Jim Breuer doing Goat Boy, gave up a single to Miguel Cairo.  Reds win, 5-3.

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via www.fangraphs.com


Star-divide

Other Notes

  • Francisco Cordero finally got another save.  He's at 293 in his career, tied with former Cardinal and former Reds farmhand Jason Isringhausen for 22nd all time.
  • Chris Carpenter had not had a loss or a no decision in a start against Cincinnati since Aug. 9, 2006.  That was one of his many duels with Aaron Harang.  Jason Isringhausen blew the save (he could have still been ahead of Coco!) and none other than Ryan Franklin got the win for the Reds.  Carpenter last lost to the Reds on June 6, 2006.  Eric Milton was the winning pitcher.  Carpenter had ten straight wins in the meantime. 

  • Final - 4.23.2011 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 RHE
    Cincinnati Reds 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 3 0 5 4 0
    St. Louis Cardinals 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 8 2
    WP: Aroldis Chapman (1 - 0)
    SV: Francisco Cordero (3)
    LP: Miguel Batista (1 - 1)

    Complete Coverage >




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Hooray for Mikoo!!

I call my son, Michael, Miguelito.

I shall now call Cairo “Mikoo”, which is what his cousin calls him.

CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.

by supergrover on Apr 23, 2011 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

An aside

can someone explain the “Carpenter explaining the no decision to his son” jokes?

CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.

by supergrover on Apr 23, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

it goes back to the brawl last year

carpenter, being an asshat, as per usual, gave an interview saying how horrible it was and rhetorically wondering how he was going to explain what happened to his son. the answer to everyone this side of the mississippi, and west of the rockies, was that it was his own fault because he didn’t know when to stfu. thusly, the jokes mocking carpenter.

by Heeringa on Apr 23, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw jeez. what a big girl

Don’t play the “think of the kids” shit.
Btw, with the beard thing… he looks like an idiot. I don’t mean goober, I mean someone with a challenged IQ. Lucky he is blessed as a pitcher.

Thanks for the explicativatorical post.

CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.

by supergrover on Apr 23, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another 45 years will pass ...

another 860 games between the Reds and the WLBs, and the only thing we will remember is this damned brawl. The WLBs announcers are milking it like it’s a Holstein.
Short of having anything that resembles an interesting team.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yo Cairo!

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by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

z

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by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a beautiful fangraph.

If you turn your head to the side, it looks just like Joey Votto going in for a strong, firm handshake.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Apr 23, 2011 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Legend?

Is there a legend? I’m feeling particularly lazy (percocet induced) and am looking for details. I’ve seen those plenty and get the gist of it, but don’t know the particulars and am a bit unsure of what the two red bars mean.

I did click the via fangraphs link, if that makes me look any more motivated.

CET Brown
Can't Evaluate Talent.

by supergrover on Apr 24, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've wondered about those too

Just figured it meant a big change in the game

by TheCinWin on Apr 24, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I went to dinner went the game went to rain delay and missed the finish.

It must have been pretty exciting though. Go Reds, they’re a team I actively follow.

by Grahamophone on Apr 24, 2011 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Condensed version of the game is on FanPosts

I hope to post all the Reds games this year and some interesting (or weird) other games.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

it may be worth him putting them all in one threaded fanshot

that he can tag together every time it gets bumped from the front. Or even putting hte condensed games on his own blogspot.com thing he can link to.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I put the condensed games on there because some folks would like to see them.

I can stop. I get no bonus points for posting them.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate them

Thank you

"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker

by featherman on Apr 24, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Pretty sick job to come in with a guy on third, one out, and clinging to a one run lead and strike him out is pretty impressive.

by chazzilla on Apr 24, 2011 12:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I gave your MOM an honorable mention! HA HA HA!

Just kidding. I’ve never met her but I’m sure she’s a lovely woman.

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Apr 24, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

You shut your whore mouth!

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone stole their Other Notes from the game thread preview! :P

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Zing!

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

In other news

I decided to have a beer tonight. Doesn’t taste as good as I remember.

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

thats turrible

Should have had an ed hardy premium beer!

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Apr 24, 2011 9:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was Dos Equis, didn't feel like spending $10 on a six pack

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

$10 is SOP for a 6er up here

Which flavor of Dos Equis?

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Apr 24, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went with the Especial, I believe it was $7

Almost went with the Bell’s two-hearted ale since I have heard a couple of RRs order it recently, but decided to try it on tap somewhere first.

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 25, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meaningless stat:

The Reds are 4-0 on Saturdays this year.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 1:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Last year

I think Tuesday was our best day for a while

by Red_Poodle on Apr 24, 2011 2:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So, let's do the math

If we continue undefeated on Saturdays and … from now on, go undefeated on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays, we should win at least 4 games a week.

And if we lose them all on Mondays, Thursdays and Sundays, we will still win about 100 games. This would be nice because if you don’t want to see the Reds lose, just plan accordingly.

The odds of going at least .500 on Mondays, Thursdays and Sundays would also be pretty good.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

In other news

Baltimore has really fallen from grace huh? First to last in a hurry over there

by TheCinWin on Apr 24, 2011 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

getting Matusz back should be a boost for them

but yeah, they’ll be better than last year, but still not anywhere close to others in that division

by pack_fan on Apr 24, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yankees hit for the home run cycle against them last night

Solo, 2-run, 3-run, and Grand Slam.

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Apr 24, 2011 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

In addition to it being Sunday Night Baseball,

I’m excited for the night game tomorrow so I don’t miss most of the game during Easter dinner (lunch) like I usually do.

by Grahamophone on Apr 24, 2011 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Great recap

And I agree with the potg Miguel was very clutch

by Red_Poodle on Apr 24, 2011 2:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

chris valaika

should be called up to play third….as well as miguel is doing… valaika has been been a prospect from some time

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Apr 24, 2011 2:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I just looked up Valaika at baseball-reference.com and . . .

in his minor league career of 538 games, Valaika has played only five games at 3B and has made three errors.

by Don, the Rebel without a Blog on Apr 24, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Cairo playing third (and first).

It’s when we ask him to play second or short that I get very, very nervous.

by MatthewH on Apr 24, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want Janish in the lineup every day . . .

until Rolen is better or Francisco is off the DL.

Either Janish-SS & Cairo-3B, or Janish-3B & Renteria-SS.

by Don, the Rebel without a Blog on Apr 24, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

good news ....

i nailed yesteday’s prediction right on the head!

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Apr 24, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

brio recommendation

I had the lobster ravioli and a bowl of lobster bisque last evening.

I’ve found a new 2nd favorite italian chain!!!!

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Apr 24, 2011 9:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Brio > Maggiano's

I didn’t want to be the one to tell you

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Apr 24, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Maggianos

Brios is good.

Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson

by Hawkeyegirl96 on Apr 25, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

not exactly a satisfying win

but boy we really needed that one. it was only a matter of time before the cards gave some away. they really just aren’t that good of a team this year.

I really hope they sign pooholes to a long lucrative contract to prevent them from shoring up the defense and bullpen. perhaps even lucrative enough to lose some of that starting pitching too. then they can enjoy several more years of mediocrity.

This really should be the beginning of a new era for the Reds in the Central. I see no serious contenders, well maybe the Brewers this year, and perhaps (gasp) the Pirates in a year or two. Good time to be a Reds fan.

by Howie Feltersnatch on Apr 24, 2011 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

On the other hand . . .

I would like to see Pujols sign with the Cubs. That would have the effect of making WLB fans very sad for years to come.

by Don, the Rebel without a Blog on Apr 24, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly satisfying?

Beat the first place team to pull into a tie? Check.

No one got hurt? Check.

Beat a guy that has owned the Reds for the first time in a long time? Check.

I’ll take that every day of the week.

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

How could that happen?

There’d have to be at least 7 teams in your division and they’d all be ahead of you or something.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 24, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy with the win

and all take that outcome any day of the week, but the Reds didn’t exactly play great. there is plenty of room for improvement.

by Howie Feltersnatch on Apr 24, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

One day, and one day only, out of first place would be so much cooler than wire-to-wire

But how would the author title the book?

When you come to the fork in the road, take it.

by poojols on Apr 24, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

"We Had to Call an Electrician"

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

slyde?

wire to almost wire thanks to dusty’s lack of radar watching?

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Apr 24, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, in 1990, it wasn't wire to wire

We lost the first game to the Pirates, which meant we were 0-1 in the NL playoffs.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sunday Night Baseball, huh?

Is it safe to say I shouldn’t expect to find this on MLB.TV?

If not, happy friggin’ birthday to me, MLB! wags fist

Needless to say, this didn't work and everybody died.

by SullivanSmith on Apr 24, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

It'll be on Espn3.com

Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."

by ChiDa on Apr 24, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

For real!? Awesome!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 24, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be going to the game today

look for the kid cheering wildly for BP holding a Bud Select.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Congrats, bro!

It’s not like calling the phrase “military intelligence” an oxymoron is overused at all! And it’s definitely not an annoying, outdated hippie concept either. You made a funny!

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 24, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

x

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 24, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just don't like when someone insults the people that are currently overseas fighting for us.

Even if you don’t agree with the government (completely different argument that we really shouldn’t go into) don’t take it out on the troops.

I usually try not to be an asshole like that but comments like those really piss me off.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 24, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So someone making a bad joke that happens to mention the military...

is taking it out on the troops? That makes sense.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 24, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I don't think it makes much sense at all, Gray!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 24, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Continuing to "support" the troops means continuing to support

the dumb-shit war in Afghanistan. Can’t have it both ways.
Bring troops home and respect them after they get here.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

a "dumb-shit" war that all but 2 congresspersons voted to approve?

you don’t like the war, go vote your dumb-shit representative out of office.

Obama didn’t even get approval from congress before sending planes dropping bombs over Libya. you want an illegal war, there it is.

by Heeringa on Apr 24, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Afghanistan is a "dumb shit" war

Defending it on any level is absurd.
Bringing Libya into the conversation is introducing unrelated agenda.
I never called Afghanistan illegal and I never brought Libya into the discussion. Afghanistan is a “dumb shit” war. If you want to find a way of comparing it to Libya, you really need to learn the art of debate.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the first 30 days or so ... maybe ....

Try to give me a good reason for it now. Think hard and try to avoid the traditional jingo bullshit that led to this thread in the first place.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

As in all absurd arguments in support of war, I won't reply on this topic now.

It just pisses me off to spend this much money and time and resources in a place that is defended by rocks.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell ya what ... you and I can agree on baseball

or disagree.
My feelings on war and warfare are what they are. No amount of chatter on this board is going to change that. I am much too old (64) to have any illusions about why they fight them. They are about U.S. agenda, nothing else. So I will leave it at that. If you want to research this on your own, feel free. So that’s where I intend to leave this, all right?

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

its like saying

the “why don’t they make the whole plane out of the black box” joke and someone getting all worked up over 9/11.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOD BLESS FREE SPEECH!

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 24, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

See my joke was ironic, because I was criticizing your sarcasm as unfunny.

Yet at the same time, I was being sarcastic and unfunny! GET IT?!?!?!?!

by andromache on Apr 24, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andro, try not to get so bent out of shape about this

Just calm down, OK?

There now, isn’t that better?

See you were just having a Carpenter moment.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Homer's gonna be pissssssed.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey! That's my nemesis!

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 24, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've had many a person tell me that between my looks and my personality

I’m the real life version of Dr. Horrible.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 24, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Doogie Howser

"Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

Dusty Baker on RR

by DTFH91 on Apr 24, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you could have opened yourself up for a lifetime of comments here.

But I will be the first to attempt to “nail it shut,” if you would like.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

having been in the military

I can say that they’re among the first to make that joke.

It’s not about the people in the military, but the system. Of same ilk as “There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Army way,” or “Hurry up and wait.”

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing teaches patience like dealing with the military :)

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, teenage angst and blind nationalism....

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 24, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Annoying outdated hippie concepts

were annoying even when they were popular.

Make love not war was fine until you actually tried to get somebody to “do” it with you. Then the rules suddenly sounded like something Grandma would have made.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Groovy!

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enjoy this bit of "music"

This woman was the “wife” of Gabe Kaplan in the show Welcome Back Kotter.

AMUSING IF NOT PATHETIC

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recorded a documentary about Dummy Hoy and watched it last night.

And boy was it terrible. The “acting” was about the quality of an 8th grade school play, and the baseball scenes looked like the people playing had never seen an actual baseball game in their lives.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

was it a silent movie?

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ebert weighs in on it.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did have a lot of sign language and subtitles.

And a lot of deaf people talking.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, there may be a shortage of truly great deaf actors

But not having seen this, you do suggest it was a documentary, so maybe the acting wasn’t high on the to-do list.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

both

“actors” were doing reenactments of key moments in Hoy’s life

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The movie Invictus is the same way with rugby.

I’ve only seen parts of it and it seems like a good movie but the actual rugby scenes are pretty bad.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 24, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

invictus was pretty much unwatchable

Id much prefer to watch an old australian rules football match!

"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"

by Ewok on Apr 24, 2011 1:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The probable pitcher on the Reds website has changed

from LeCure to TBD. The Fay says he thinks Voltron starts tonight.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

so

How many runs will he give up in the first?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

all of his starts were at home

so what’ll really happen is that the home team gets scored on in the first.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

espn (olney) says it's volquez

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 24, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the weather report is pretty ugly

Rain, thunder and lightning all night.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

its 12:30 and I'm using a lamp to read by

probably not a good sign.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, Dusty AND the umps have the forecast

anybody else need to know this in advance?

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it really the first in 6 years?

I could swear I saw them on Sunday night the past year or two. Because of the teams they were playing (the Cards, usually), but still.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure I read that their last SNB game was in 2005 v. the Dodgers.

They certainly have had some ESPN games since then, but not SNB. Sadly, Joe Morgan wont be there.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No surprise.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think it's a good idea.

I’d rather him rest his shoulder and come back close to 100% than try to come back early/play shorthanded for a week or so.

by chazzilla on Apr 24, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Rolen's productive career is nearing a faster end than we realize

It’s time the Reds seriously addressed the 3B situation for the rest of the season and beyond.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

but does the Lake Monster play third?

Didn’t someone say that he’s only played a handful of games there in his career?

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

Dusty thinks a shortstop can play anywhere. He put Drew Sutton in LF when the guy had never played there before in his life.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd guess Cairo gets the lion's share of 3B time

Valaika becomes the new “Cairo” for the infield.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think Cairo is young/good enough to do that

if the Reds need a 3b, they need a 3b. And if it won’t be Francisco, then it’s Frazier, Negron, or a trade.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Janish is a non-starter, IMHO.

His only value is his glove at SS and moving him doesn’t improve the Reds at either position. He doesn’t hit well enough to move over to make room for somebody who might hit even worse.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a good point

Janish’s only value comes from his defense at SS. And while he ought to get the majority of games there, he shouldn’t be taking lots of reps at other positions

by kcgard2 on Apr 24, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree the Cairo is a spare tire at best

But until the Rolen issue is addressed, the Reds can’t make a major move. The best they can do for the moment is fill in as they can. A trade would be the best long-run plan and I truly believe it needs to happen. Rolen’s probably on his last “shoulders” … and the sooner we admit it, the better.

I smell a Homer Bailey trade.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see it.

Rolen is great when he’s playing, but he’s—at best—a part time player right now. What do you think we could get for Bailey in return? The guy has shown flashes, but hasn’t been consistent—not to mention two shoulder issues the past year or so.

by chazzilla on Apr 24, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will leave the discussion to others' points of view

Bailey is pitching another rehab today so I assume he is coming back to the Reds soon.

The other guy besides Cueto is D-Train. Anybody need a lefty? I hate to trade pitchers but we also need a lineup.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Dontrelle brings us much of a return right now.

Hell, anyone could have signed him this off-season for fairly cheap. A couple of good MiLB starts isn’t going to shoot his stock up.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Apr 24, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that D-Train isn't a great value

We won’t get a regular 3B for him in a deal. I just threw his name in there as a veteran pitcher. Dunno, maybe the deal is END for somebody special.

Or Yonder.
Or Mesoraco.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

for realz?

Why not Frazier?

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frazier's OPS is better

but that’s a relatively recent development. He’s been in a bit of a slump, so I can understand why they think he might not be ready.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

That’s his primary position these days.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valaika is OK at 2B when BP needs a rest

At third, maybe for one game. This seems like a case of waiting to see how well Rolen responds. If he doesn’t, the team can’t use Cairo there for long so we might see a deal made. How that works out depends on … who’s out there and what he costs.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we can't forget that Cairo is 37.

He won’t be able to handle playing every single day.

by chazzilla on Apr 24, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We still have the END issue

He isn’t out forever, so … do we suck it up with him or do we concede that the guy can’t do the job? Can he? Not many of us believe he can.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess

Because Valaika’s been called up before, and done okay. And he’s hitting better than Frazier in Louisville right now.

And thank you, Walt, for remembering that you have a DL and are allowed to use it.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 24, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

IN related Bats news

Corky lays one down … (yeah, it’s a sac, but it was fun watching him go.)

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunate

MLB is a little less exciting without rolen. hope to see him playing a gold glove third base again soon

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter

by prophetjohn on Apr 24, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toy.

‘Cuz his money ain’t!

"Call me old fashioned, but I think fire is magic, and it scares me a lot."

by Lucky Pierre on Apr 24, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toledo announcer:

“Show Mom just how special she is by taking her to a Mud Hens game!”

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yabbit, was it a Mud Hens game?

I agree that the “day out” for Mom can be anything that suits her, but I just found the way he said it to be amusing. You needed to be there, I guess.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

5/3rd in Toledo is actually pretty nice, from what I've heard.

Despite only living 40 minutes south, I’ve never been.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Apr 24, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's on the TV feed now ... the camera scans show a nice place.

Most AAA ballparks are decent these days.

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, but we went to a Gwinnett Braves game the one year we were in Atlanta for Mother's Day.

But it’s mostly been Reds’ games.

I wasn’t sure if it was the “baseball for Mother’s Day” concept or the “Mud Hens games make someone special” bit that you found funny. Thanks for clearing that up!

by the finest muffins on Apr 24, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Mud Hens" has made me chuckle for a long time

Even though it’s probably one of the oldest franchises in minor league baseball.
The guy on MASH made it somewhat famous.
Just … why in the first place would you name a team “Mud Hens?”

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sappelt also 3-for-3

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alonzo continuing to suck at the plate

Finally got his first RBI, a sac fly

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by johnu1 on Apr 24, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya i dunno why with lewis on the DL

they didnt give sappelt a chance up in the bigs…

by cokane on Apr 24, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably so he could get regular ABs in Louisville.

No use bringing him up and having him bat once or twice a week like Hermida.

What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.

by DocRam on Apr 24, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Video game questions:

I have access to a free Xbox (not 360). Do the new games play on the old system? Do they still make games for the old stystem? What is the best baseball game on Xbox? I have heard World Series 2k3 was a good one.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 24, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope, you can't

MLB the Show is awesome

"Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

Dusty Baker on RR

by DTFH91 on Apr 24, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's PS3 exclusive, though, i forgot

"Those fellas make some good points," Baker said. "They're profane as hell, and they're probably gay, but they make some good points."

Dusty Baker on RR

by DTFH91 on Apr 24, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup:

Drew Stubbs cf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Jonny Gomes lf
Jay Bruce rf
Miguel Cairo 3b
Ryan Hanigan c
Paul Janish ss
Edinson Volquez p

vs. RH Jake Westbrook

by chazzilla on Apr 24, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

hope they can light up westbrook today!

milyuckee won so they need a win to stay in first

by cokane on Apr 24, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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