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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

 

Jordan Smith: Matt Maloney was unexpectedly called upon to start the game, had a rough 39 pitch first inning and started but failed to record an out in the third inning.  Smith relieved Maloney, and threw 3 innings of 1 run baseball saving the bullpen from complete disaster.   Honorable mention goes to Nick Masset for his two perfect innings of work, and Bill Bray for his scoreless inning of baseball, and Brandon Phillips for his 2-5 night and solo home run.

 

Key Plays

Tony LaRussa replaced his starting pitcher with Miguel Batista before the game started, while Dusty Baker stuck with Edinson Volquez.  6 pitches into the game, a 2 hour 10 minute rain delay happened.  Scheduled starter Kyle McClellan replaced Batista after the rain delay.  Edinson Volquez did not return either, pressing long reliever Matt Maloney into service. 

Maloney struggled but didn't get blown out.  The 39 pitch first inning gassed him, as prior to today Maloney has not thrown more than 53 pitches in a game.  Maloney was either lucky or tough, as he only gave up 2 runs despite allowing 9 base runners.

Jordan Smith replaced Maloney and promptly recorded a double play, and got out of the 3rd with no damage.  Smith got the Reds through the fourth and almost got the Reds through the fifth inning without allowing a run; but in a back breaking play immediately following Bruce gunning Matt Holiday down at third for the second out, Smith gave up an RBI single to Yodier Molina, to make the score 4-1.

Brandon Phillips hit a solo home run in the 5th, bring the Reds to within 2 before Smith allowed the run.

The Reds had a number of chances to score and a number base runner blunders too depressing to document.

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Other Notes

Dusty Baker was asked about Volquez after the game, he said that he was told before the game there was going to be a window to play.  Dusty also admitted that the Cardinals probably had "different information" than he had.  But I gotta hand it to Dusty, he didn't whine, he didn't complain, we know if it went the other way a certain member of the Cardinals field staff would be writing a letter to Bud Selig right now.  But do the Reds not have smart phones or internet access?  I mean weather.com and Weatherunderground are amazing and easy resources to use; also more trust worthy than Tony LaRussa.

Dusty also said it is possible that Volquez can start on Sunday in place of Sam LeCure.


Dusty was asked if the Reds will make any changes to their pitching staff, he said that is possible.  I really think they should send down Maloney, DFA Herrera or Fisher, and get Chad Reineke up to the big league staff to serve as an extra long man in case there is more rain, short start, or long game.

The Reds stranded 11 men on base, but made so many silly outs.

Joey Votto didn reach base.

Scott Rolen didn't play with a bad shoulder.


Nick Masset threw two perfect innings with a strikeout.  Hopefully the Masset Hound has re-figured out how to pitch.

The bullpen is in real bad shape, it was starting to recover from last week, but having to cover 9 innings today hurt.  Travis Wood is going to need to step up tomorrow and go deep into the game, Wood's start isn't just important for winning tomorrow but important for getting the bullpen back on track.

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According to the MLB.com boxscore

Votto did reach base on a walk.

How much wood could Chakkuchakkuchakku if you can throw a tree?

by ThePensive on Apr 23, 2011 5:27 AM EDT reply actions  

WLBs=Gamesmanship

I’ll feel better if Volquez pitches well on Sunday.

"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker

by featherman on Apr 23, 2011 7:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate Norman Rockwell

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by Madville on Apr 23, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Sort of the visual version of acoustic droning?

by ol Pete on Apr 23, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

We could post some Raven Riley art here, ya know.

Would you like that better?
Huh?
Huh?

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for doing this justin

I had every intention of doing a game recap, and then the rain delay happened. I’d call St. Louis a stupid city, but it sounds like the tornados they got were pretty bad. So I’ll just call the Cardinals a stupid organization for playing the game at all.

by Brendanukkah on Apr 23, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't know how you do it.

I had a bit of insomnia last night, too, but I am somehow incapable of sleeping past 8:30, ever. So I’m exhaustified today.

by the finest muffins on Apr 23, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i am in a 3-11 sleep pattern these days

so when i actually have shit to do in the morning it is tough.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did that for 15 years ...

First chance you get, and I do mean soon if possible, scrap the 3-11. It will ruin your life.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can change it

all i need is something to do first thing in the morning (like a class or job) and I can get into that sleeping pattern. But right now I am making my own schedule.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we pull of a WS this year, i could give a flying monkey about wire to wire ...

and in other news, only wishfuldrifter and I picked the birds to win … his score was closer.

as a former missouri native and frequent visitor to st. louis (it actually is a very nice city) i hope that everyone affected can make it past the devastation of last night …

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Apr 23, 2011 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

That game was nothing but horrible horribleness.

There was nothing remotely positive about it.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

hmmm

From the Fay:

Reds manager Dusty Baker was not happy with the whole situation with the rain and the start of Friday’s game.


"It was a really tough start," Baker said. "There was information we received that probably wasn’t the information they received. We probably wouldn’t have started Volquez in the first place. We were told there was going to be a window. That window lasted about three minutes."


The Reds were told, Baker said, the window was 45 minutes to an hour.


"Sometimes the weatherman’s wrong I guess," he said. "When we went to the plate with umpires, they said the rain was going to come eventually, which we all knew. They said we’re going to play through it the best we can. It just didn’t last too long.


"If the umpires had known, they wouldn’t have started it either."

I don’t get it. How was the info TLR got different from what Dusty and the umpires got?

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by BubbaFan on Apr 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

dusty sounds like the whiny little bitch today

it wasn’t hard to check a weather forecast. heck, even the geniuses here at red reporter had a pretty good grasp on last night’s weather.

by 'tHan on Apr 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

He just got outmanaged last night.

All there really is to it.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think what might have helped

a. Maloney pitching better
b. The Reds getting some runs

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

as i said in the final game thread ...

dusty: weather.com, search st. louis

"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"

by joshuar9476 on Apr 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

he sounded annoyed last night

but we know if things went the other way and they were playing in Cincinnati TLR would throw a shitfit. TLR has called for the Reds ace to be suspended and twice accused the Reds of not preparing the baseballs.

Dusty also said that the Reds biggest problem last night was stranding 3000 men on base.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

So is Dusty implying that someone with the Cards told him the wrong weather on purpose?

And then told TLR the right weather? As much as I hate making excuses for Dusty’s incompetence, it’s not like this is something that’s out of the question for them to do, right?

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by BK on Apr 23, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would it really have been that tough to get someone to look at a radar?

That in and of itself is incompetence.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty was probably working on good faith

Figuring that if he is told there will be a window there will be a window.

The Reds next move should be to repaint the clubhouse the morning of the first game of home Cardinals series, and repaint it prior to every game.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he says

the umpires also didn’t know, or they wouldn’t have started the game.

That’s what gets me. How do the umpires not know? Isn’t it their job to keep an eye on the weather?

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by BubbaFan on Apr 23, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Dusty needs to quit making excuses.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

St. Louisan here.

There were also sirens well before the game started. I was shocked they started the game at all.

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by spants on Apr 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no direct knowledge of how this works

but I’ve assumed that they’re dependent on the staff at the stadium to provide them with such information.

This is probably most evident while they’re preparing for the game and on the field, since it’s not like they can pull up the radar on their phones between pitches.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way it works is

There is a weather “room” at the stadium that has the weather equipment in it. The one who monitors it is usually the head grounds keeper. He and the Director of operations for the stadium then make an educated guess on when the rain is supposed to arrive and then relay that information to the teams and the umpire. The umpire combined with the groundskeeper and the director of operations will then make a decision on if the game is going to start. If it did go down last night as said, then TLR already had the information and the umpires and dusty were given incorrect information. Does that excuse Dusty from asking BP to exit his Twitter app and check the radar? No probably not, but if the umpires knew what was coming there is no way they would’ve started that game.

by kcox17 on Apr 23, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I don't get

is why anyone would have wanted to start the game.

Did the Cardinals really want to avoid having to give refunds that much?

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are

no refunds unless the game is canceled. If they decided to have a 5 hour rain delay then under most circumstances the game is played and no refund is issued. TLR wanted the game to to start because he had a distinct advantage in knowledge. If he wants to admit it or not his stadium team knew what was coming. It is impossible to not know with the technology they have in that room. But by misleading the umpires and the Reds to believing their was an hour window Dusty kept his starter in whereas TLR kept his from warming up until after the rain delay because he knew there was no window.

by kcox17 on Apr 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, I get that they avoided refunds.

I guess this is why I suspect that this sort of deception actually went on. Without that, I don’t see why anyone on either team would have wanted this game to happen.

Unless the Cardinals really did want to avoid paying refunds.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR

wanted it to happen because he knew our starter wouldn’t pitch but maybe an inning before getting to the bullpen. Killing our bullpen in the first game of a three game set. By encouraging the game to start he got a big advantage for not only the game but the series.

by kcox17 on Apr 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez not pitching

If Volquez never pitched in the first inning, I don’t understand why he couldn’t pitch when the game resumed. Is warming up such a fine process that you can only do that once for a starting pitcher?

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by redandblue on Apr 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't have it both ways.

If Dusty had left Volquez on the lineup card throughout the two hour rain delay and something had happened to him when the game began again, people would want his head for that. Instead, he made the most low-risk decision in a crappy situation to ensure no harm, and Dusty is now “incompetent” (not directed at you, redandblue). Direct the self-hate outwards, Reds fans. This is a great chance to hate on TLR, which is always much deserved.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Apr 23, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anybody considers the decision to start Maloney

to be incompetent. For me, that’s the area where we just have to trust the manager, since he (hopefully) has the best feel for how able someone is to play.

The only comment I’ve seen about incompetence was referring to Dusty’s failure to evaluate the weather independently, which is probably stated a bit too strongly, but still. It seems a reasonable thing to criticize.

Regardless of whether the Cardinals were actually playing games with this, I think we can all agree that doing so would be pretty absurd. This game obviously should not have been played.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we please also all agree

that TLR is a d-bag, if a crafty d-bag? Also, my heart softened for the Cardinals players a little bit when Freese gave Cairo a friendly pat after tagging him out. I like empathy, I guess.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Apr 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was a game either last year or, more likely, 2009

Cordero pitched the first 2/3 of the 9th, and then there was an hour rain delay. Dusty kept Cordero in to keep the save, and the save evaporated. It was a sad day.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was the Harang start of 2009

where Harang pitched 4.2 innings with a lead, and Dusty brought him back out to get the last out so he would get a win. Harang had a hot start in 2009 went into a slump for the next 6 starts or so.

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by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can at Burger King

I’m going to be Dusty’s psychiatrist and say that the past criticism of being rough on pictures made him scared to do something to Volquez.

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by redandblue on Apr 23, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's fair.

And not sure it’s a bad idea.

It is too bad they lost last night but it was actually a very encouraging game in some ways. They stuck to it and got themselves into a position to win several times. It would have been much better if they had come through in those situations, but it really seemed like it would spin out of control. Now it sounds like Volquez will be ready for tomorrow, which isn’t bad news.

by Cuetotally Amazing on Apr 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty said

Volquez was warming up every 15 minutes during the rain delay. But over 2 hours was too long, and they decided he couldn’t go.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

what happened with the Cairo pickoff?

From the comments in the game thread, it sounds like it was actually Heisey’s fault?

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by BubbaFan on Apr 23, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Heisey is to fault there.

The condensed game just went up on FanShots.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he wandered too far from first base

and yadi threw to first. the only thing to decide there was who was going to get out. and frankly, i’d rather have heisey on 2nd than cairo.

by Heeringa on Apr 23, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to the WLB announcers

Every comment seems to swirl around bad sportsmanship by the fans. They seem to be goading the fans into booing the Reds, continuing this lathery facade of anger. What gives? Do other announcer teams do this?

I can’t recall a sustained period of absolute adolescent behavior by a fan base.

BP urges them to boo louder. I think these frickin’ morans didn’t get what he meant by that. Then again, this should come as no surprise.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

The Cardinals announcers have always been like that. They exhibit and endorse stupid idiotic behavior.

Al Hrabosky is one of the announcers. He’s a complete tool.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

BP is kidding around, essentially urging them to grow up.

Hrabosky keeps drinking the flavored water. Goes on and on about it, retelling the story, then at the end … his disclaimer about how BP really loves to play the game.

Ya know, Al … just get fucked, OK?

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just caught some tornado damage footage on CNN.

Holy hell, it looks horrible out there. It’s incredible no one was killed or seriously injured. So here’s what I want to happen now. Our intrepid, feisty, won’t-roll-over Redlegs resoundingly take this afternoon’s contest and just barely eke out a nailbiting victory on Sunday, too. In between games, Brandon Phillips and Yadier Molina lead a crew that heads out to the airport to help with clean-up.

by the finest muffins on Apr 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

what's weird is that it doesnt seem so bad on the ground, from anecdotal evidence

it’s like the tornado hit the airport and other industrial places where there were few people on a Friday night, missing the actual residential parts of the city entirely.

Though it would be a heartwarming story if the Reds plane, stranded at Lambert, was unable to take off. The Reds stay in town for the rest of the week and forge strong friendships with the Cardinals. Phillips stays at Pujols’ house. Bailey softens up Carpenter by taking him on a hunting trip in the Ozarks. Baker and LaRussa, I dunno, play Canasta or something.

Flash forward to the end of the season, and the Reds and Cardinals are tied for the NL Central lead. In an unprecedented show of teamwork, they decide to split the playoff spot, and the Carreds go on to win the World Series as left fielder Joey Votto takes home the WSMVP trophy.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Today is going to be crazy

TWood v. WLB #1

Please, in the game thread don’t mention Twood being good or our ace. Because our pitchers always do bad when someone says something about it.

LTP is for Stubbs only!

by OGC Reds on Apr 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Wood vs. Carpenter!

I’ve been hoping for this matchup since last year! I expect great puns in the game threads, Red Reporters.

by the finest muffins on Apr 23, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

uh-oh

I hope Wood doesn’t get sawed down by Carpenter.

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by BubbaFan on Apr 23, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking more like

“Wood Defeats Carpenter: OMG IT’S ALIIIIIVE,” or
“Carpenter receives lesson in Wood working as Reds build Card table,” or
…something about splinters in the eye.

Sadly, I’m having trouble finding pictures of carpentry gone awry. In fact, 75% of the “carpenter injury” pictures feature tonight’s starting pitcher.

by the finest muffins on Apr 23, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only 1 rec on this?

The other famous carpenter would bring fish and loaves.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Richard...oh you mean Karen

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by Madville on Apr 26, 2011 4:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

what pisses me off is that they played the game knowing they had an afternoon game the following day.

obviously this affects both teams so at least the competitive balance is fair (Herm’d), but it’s still a shit situation for the players. if there are tornadoes in the forecast, just postpone the god damn game.

also, Panera coffee is fucking terrible.

"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein

by GrooveLeg on Apr 23, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

McDonalds, Burger King, and Dunkin Doniuts all have fantastic coffee.

Panera’s regular Light Roast has left a pretty awful aftertaste in my mouth. I’d rather have gone to Speedway.

"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein

by GrooveLeg on Apr 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right about Dunkin Donuts

Are McDonalds and Burger King that much improved?

by Grahamophone on Apr 23, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hadn't been to a McDonald's in years

and stopped at one for coffee a few months back. Considering that I paid something like two bucks for it, I was expecting it to be decent.

It wasn’t.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I love McD's coffee...

i can’t eat their breakfast “food” (unless i need something to “unclog the pipes” so to speak) but i give their coffee a thumbs up.

and yes, BK’s new “Joe” is worth a stop. Dunkin’s is the only I go out of my way for though. Never going to Starbucks again though.

"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein

by GrooveLeg on Apr 23, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starbucks coffee is horrible

since they have a strong tendency to burn it. I don’t understand why.

Dunkin’ coffee isn’t bad at all, but I usually stick to getting coffee from Bruegger’s.

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda like their breakfast food

but I almost never eat it because it clogs the pipes…

by ol Pete on Apr 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on McD's coffee and Dunkin's

I’d add White Castle to the list of good fast food coffee, and then end the list there

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by BK on Apr 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicken rings, yes, and they are delicious

"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

by jch24 on Apr 23, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess they must have made them wrong in Columbus

they always came out in fry form

and yes, they are delicious

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Apr 24, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

so no word on a roster move...

Walt has a great long range plan, but jesus christ when there are injuries or weirdness he won’t do anything to provide roster flexibility.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I just thought of this.

How will they get players in/out if the airport is closed? Bus?

by chazzilla on Apr 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Airport is open.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind, flightaware mislead me

but you make a good point.

I am guessing the Reds team charter will go out of MidAmerica airport.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

What would be good moves?

Maloney down, Reinike/Willis up? Any bullpen support besides that?

by chazzilla on Apr 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably can't happen, or at the least they couldn't get here until tomorrow

The bats are in Toledo. If they were in Louisville they could drive and make it to St. Louis.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who all is left in the 'pen?

Lurch, Chapman… I’m drawing a blank on others.

It’s looking like we might get to see Chappy go more than one inning, which could be a good or bad thing.

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by sexsalad on Apr 23, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bray could go. Coco. LeCure for a couple...

"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein

by GrooveLeg on Apr 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

LeCure in the pen?

That would really upset the rotation, would it not?

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the train!

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we do some roster moves

so we can call up Sappelt and a pitcher

LTP is for Stubbs only!

by OGC Reds on Apr 23, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Is the weather looking better today?

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm watching a college lacrosse game on TV.

I have no clue how this horrible sport became so popular.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 23, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

It did not become so popular.

It’s just more interesting this time of year than luge racing.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You been to a high school lately?

It’s about as popular of a spring sport as baseball.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends on the part of the country though, right?

"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24

by BK on Apr 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

in OH it's really only Columbus, correct?

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Cincy and it's pretty big.

I think the best teams are all in Columbus though, so you’re right. There’s some team up there that rapes my school every year and they’re supposedly the best in the state.

"I bet that sex Bengals fan is really pissed now." -DT3428

by sexsalad on Apr 23, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

my dad started to take classes to officiate LaCrosse

but decided he was too old to run up and down a field, so he is sticking with umpiring baseball.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they get to wack each other with sticks

so its got that goin’ for them

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Apr 24, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

its a good way to get into an ivy league school

or, in certain other cases, a mediocre state school.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure this was discussed to death elsewhere

but I don’t know how this works. Is it a really horrible idea to let the starter warm back up several hours after he got ready for the game, then sat without pitching?

Still not a candidate.

by Gray on Apr 23, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i've wondered this too...

i imagine that with the uncertainty of the length of a rain delay comes caution with pitchers. volquez warmed up, then he sat idle for 2.5 hours and cooled down. he’d be at greater risk of injury if asked to warm up again and throw a lot of pitches. that would be like asking him to pitch twice in one day. i bet if it was a 20 minute delay Dusty might have told him to get out there since he was still relatively warm.

"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein

by GrooveLeg on Apr 23, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin for mod

I’m at a wedding, which is the opposite of this game. The only thing I liked, from the highlights, was BP’s home run sprint.

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Roster moves

I’m a little behind the curve, but unless they 60-day someone else – and there aren’t any great candidates based on rehab status – it would need to be Fisher, DRH, Daryl Thompson or Valiquette. Or bump someone from the 40-man.

DRH is the best candidate based on early season performance.

"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Apr 23, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd ok with this.

i’m convinced DRH isn’t going to be effective in the bigs anymore. i’m fine with DFA’ing Valiquette too. i’ve never understood why he was on the 40-man in the first place.

of course if push comes to shove Hermida could be the odd man out… what with Lewis almost ready and Yonder with options.

"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein

by GrooveLeg on Apr 23, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a second I thought he was advocating a call up from DRH rather than a DFA.

Why on God’s green Earth is Lefty Smurf still on the 40 man?

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 23, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vqliquette is a left hander with mid 90s heat

so he will be given plenty of chances.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thompson got injured in his last appearance, I believe.

So he could go on the 60-day, unless there’s some sort of limit on how many times a man can go on the 60-day DL in a career: Daryl’s certainly approaching it.

I’m also concerned about Rolen. Cortisone shots in April tend to lead to DL stints in July. And I’m not sure if the Reds can weather that.

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

teams often try to avoid putting minor league players on the 40 man roster on the 60 day dl

Bill Bray was not on the 60 day dl in 2009, because he got hurt in AAA, so by leaving him on the minor league dl he didn’t get service time.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking for silver linings because this game was pretty much fucked from the start.

BP’s play on both offense and defense was great, as was his tweet during the rain delay.

Masset looked like good Masset from last year. Jordan Smith looked solid as well.

I am still looking forward to Bruce pulling his head out of his ass on offense.

Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.

by -ManBearPig on Apr 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm

Sheldon wrote that Carlos Fisher is apparently in the clubhouse.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

ughhhhhh

LTP is for Stubbs only!

by OGC Reds on Apr 23, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

if all the choices

we go with Fisher?

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's available?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who are the good pitchers?

Pardon my skepticism with Dontrelle.

by kcgard2 on Apr 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr.Dontrelle Willis

Hell, I’d take Michael Griffin over Fisher

LTP is for Stubbs only!

by OGC Reds on Apr 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Fisher

just happened to be in the area and wanted to say Hello. Let’s just hope that.

by KSE on Apr 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

LTP is for Stubbs only!

by OGC Reds on Apr 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like to think

That he acted on his own here. “They have to use me now!”

by KSE on Apr 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

LTP is for Stubbs only!

by OGC Reds on Apr 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evansville has an airport?

and a car rental?

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a regional airport.

I never used it much when I lived there, mainly because I didn’t need to fly to Indianapolis.

But their webbie has a rap intro. Gotta like this!

http://www.evvairport.com/

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fisher has great minor league numbers

I think he could easily be as good as Smith or Ondrusek.

by kcgard2 on Apr 23, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

my mind goes along with that

but my heart just doesn’t believe it.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda agree with you

but I think it is because we are familiar with some success for those other two, but not for Fisher yet (and he’s a bit older).

by kcgard2 on Apr 23, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fisher also hasn't been that great when he has pitched in the bigs.

And I just don’t think he’s got the same “stuff” as Smith or Ondrusek.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fisher has decent velocity and a breaking ball

he is a generic relief pitcher. Some turn into Jordan Smith some turn into Mike Burns.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is control Fisher's main issue?

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 23, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess i would have been more creative

gotten somebody who is stretched out as a starter who can save a total disaster if something terrible happens like Wood gets hurt, or is bombed out in the first, or a rain delay.

"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige

by justin007000 on Apr 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Often times...

I think Walt doesn’t spend anytime thinking of this stuff. The guy can work the shit out of a contract negotiation but these DL/Call Up things have been seemingly bad from him.

by KSE on Apr 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is a fisher of men

he has come to annoint Bruce with the power of saints and, hopefully, the plate discipline of Olerud

Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.

by Cy Schourek on Apr 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone see that about Brandon Marshalll?

Sometimes…you just gotta OJ your wife.

by KSE on Apr 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Brandon Marshall is a dick

I wouldn’t be surprised if he instigated the fight

by Grahamophone on Apr 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is there a particular date when the Real Reds show up?

Is it May 1, the day of the Red Revolution?
Which is in October anyhow.

#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement

by johnu1 on Apr 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I still hate Norman Rockwell

AND Helen Keller: Still dead.

MADS and ASH - Taking out the Trash - 2012

by Madville on Apr 23, 2011 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

don't forget Thomas Paine

’tHan mentioned him over the last couple of days

The ends justify the means

by Highlifeman21 on Apr 24, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Paine started out as a keyboard player playing with Paul Revere

AFTER THE BAND BROKE UP HE TURNED TO WRITING

MADS and ASH - Taking out the Trash - 2012

by Madville on Apr 26, 2011 4:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Oi'm 'enery the eighth oi am.

’enery the eighth oi am oi am.

"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."

by crolfer on Apr 26, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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