Homesick. Because I no longer know where home is. Reds lose, 5-4.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 19, 2011 11:05 PM EDT
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Drew Stubbs. The leadoff man went 1-2 with a home run, two runs scored, and two walks. He also stole a base. Honorable mentions go to Brandon Phillips and Logan Ondrusek.
Key Plays
- In what has become self-parody, a Reds starter once again gave up a first inning home run. This time it was Sam LeCure serving up the meatball to former-Scarlett-Johansson-spouse Ryan Roberts. Diamondbacks lead, 1-0.
- The Reds got that run back in the second inning when Jonny Gomes doubled. Ryan Hanigan walked, blatantly stealing Gomes's schtick, so Gomes stole Stubbs's thing and stole third. Paul Janish hit a fly ball that was deep enough to allow Gomes to tag and score. Game tied, 1-1.
- The next inning, Armando Galarraga - the pitcher - homered. Diamondbacks lead, 2-1.
- Galarraga taketh away, but he also giveth. Drew Stubbs homered in the bottom of the third, and Brandon Phillips doubled. He was driven in by a Scott Rolen double. Reds lead, 3-2.
- Sam LeCure was in for some more damage in the fifth inning, but actually caught a couple of breaks. Gerardo Parra started the inning with a double, but then was caught going to third on a fielder's choice. With Juan Miranda on first, Armando Galarraga hit a single, and Jay Bruce threw out Miranda attempting to go to third. The Reds were fortunate to erase those two baserunners, because then Kelly Johnson homered. Ryan Roberts also hit what looked like a home run, but the review ruled that it was merely a triple. Roberts then was stranded when Justin Upton grounded out. Diamondbacks lead, 4-3.
- Stephen Drew homered in the sixth inning, the fourth home run LeCure had allowed. Diamondbacks lead, 5-3.
- The Reds looked like they might get something going against Daniel Hernandez in the eighth. Drew Stubbs led off with a walk, then stole second and went to third on the catcher's throwing error. Brandon Phillips, in his return to the lineup, singled and brought in Stubbs. But then Joey Votto, Scott Rolen, and Jay Bruce all went down meekly and the threat was over. Diamondbacks win, 5-4.
Other Notes
- The boxscore on ESPN.com disagrees with the boxscore on CincinnatiReds.com. It says that Roberts hit two home runs and that Kelly Johnson homered in the third (instead of Galarraga), not the fifth, and that Chris Young homered in the sixth, not Stephen Drew. I'll be honest, I wasn't really paying attention to the game. I'll leave my version up because alternate history is fun, but the bottom line is that Sam LeCure gave up four home runs.
- Reds starters have allowed at least five runs for the third game in a row.
- The Reds are 1-5 in their last six games, 4-8 in their last 12, and one game above .500 for the first time since Opening Day.
- Sam LeCure's first inning ERA of 9.00 in this game lowers the first inning ERA of the starting rotation rather significantly.
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thanks for the recap
I just can’t get past this one yet. I’m really digusted at their recent play.
Side note, my bro sent me a mssage saying he thought Voto looked sick Any merit to that? If so it could explain his lack of offensive conribution.
uh, boy
“Sam LeCure’s first inning ERA of 9.00 in this game lowers the first inning ERA of the starting rotation rather significantly.”
That says it all.
And how bizarre that ESPN has the wrong box score.
Thanks for the recap, Brendan. Reading your funny post-game comments always makes me feel a little better after these sucky losses.
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No mention of Dusty having Hanigan bunt the leadoff runner over to second with no outs
in the ninth, eh?
Still not a candidate.
seemed like a strange move.
but one that would’ve seemed brilliant if it worked out.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Apr 19, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I had no problem with it
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by Howie Feltersnatch on Apr 20, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i'd do it if we had great hitters coming up after hanigan
but it’s weird to take away the bat from hanigan in order to rely on janish or heisey
It's also weird when they're down a run.
That seems like the kind of thing you do when it’s tied, and you just need the one run to win it.
by the finest muffins on Apr 20, 2011 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I could understand, if Hanigan reaches base, and then you have Janish sac bunt.
Then that puts runners at 2nd and 3rd with one out. But, to do it with Hanigan made no sense. The only positive thing you get out of that is you eliminate the double play.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. ~ Winston Churchill
by BigBabyBruce on Apr 20, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
It’s a wash whether Hanigan bunts there or not. With Janish coming up, that runner wasn’t going to score from first. On the other hand, Hanigan’s pretty good at getting a single or walk, so I’m hesitant to take the bat out of his hands.
I think Dusty was trying to avoid the double play and get the runner into scoring position for Janish or Heisey
The Reds needed that run to stay alive and he was doing all he could to preserve the baserunner and give them the best chance to score.
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Right, that's what he thought he was doing.
Unfortunately, bunting him over to second actually reduces the chance of him scoring. Alas.
Still not a candidate.
I don't think it reduces the chance of scoring one run, at least not appreciably
Definitely reduces the chance of a multi-run inning.
by ken on Apr 20, 2011 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It really depends
The bunt probably reduces the team’s chance of scoring multiple runs, but with Janish as the next hitter, it may actually help the team’s chances of scoring 1 run. The probability of scoring 1 run with a runner on 1st and no outs is around 42%, while the probability with a runner on 2nd and 1 out is 40%. Of course, this is on average and doesn’t assume that you have a singles hitter like Janish at the plate.
The real issue is that the probability of scoring one run with a runner on 1st and one out drops to 27% on average. And of course, having the bases empty with 2 outs makes that probability something like 6%. So, in a risk-reward scenario, I think that if you are comfortable with a hitter’s ability to bunt, you are better off in that situation to get the runner to 2nd with an out than risk the other two scenarios on the chance that the hitter might get a hit, especially with someone like Hanigan who isn’t a real threat to put one in the seats.
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At the very least, the situation doesn't fall into a "Bunts are bad" category, in my opinion
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That's possible, but the act of bunting
takes you from giving Hanigan, Janish and Heisey chances to hit…to relying only on Janish and Heisey. Even assuming all three are equivalent hitters, bunting him over reduces your chances of scoring a run, let alone scoring multiple runs. But these aren’t equivalent hitters.
It’s not as obviously stupid as, say, having BP bunt him over to second for Janish, but I still don’t like it.
Still not a candidate.
Right, but Hanigan is also a higher than average shot at hitting into a double play
because of his contact ability and slow-footedness. Probability-wise, that’s disastrous.
And in that situation, especially because it was the bottom of the order, I’m more concerned with getting the one run than multiple runs.
FWIW, I’d feel differently about the situation with different hitters up. For instance, I wouldn’t bunt in that situation with a runner on 1st, no outs, and Stubbs at the plate. I might with Phillips because of the DP threat, but probably not since that’s not likely to be high enough to concede the out. But given the hitters that were coming up, I think the bunt was, if not the perfect play, at least an acceptable scenario.
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He does hit into a slightly higher than average percentage of DPs
but his 16% rate compared to the average of 11% isn’t exactly disastrous.
I agree with you that it was not the worst decision ever. I just don’t think it was the right one, and I’m aware that my aversion to bunting in such situations makes me like it even less.
Still not a candidate.
Honestly, in that situation
taking into account the state of the bullpen, I’d rather go for the win than the tie. Losing sucks, but at least the bullpen is more or less in tact.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Plus, the 42%
includes all the instances where a guy sac bunted. So if you don’t sac bunt there, your chances are probably higher than 42%.
Isn't that assuming the conclusion?
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This should be played after every Reds win.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Apr 19, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
its something that happens when we score more runs than the opponent.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
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Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Apr 19, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
not in the last 3 days as I can attest. I've been there all 3 games.
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Apr 20, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You were there tonight?!?!
We called your bar to see if you were working. We were going to stop by. Obviously you weren’t working!
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Stop by before Credsapalooza!
Let a man come in and do the Popcorn.
by -ManBearPig on Apr 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if this has been posted yet
but I came across a newish article about Votto that has some new insights about him and adds some more “Chuck facts” about his early baseball days. I’m glad he’s going to finish his education at some point—he’s already very articulate and intelligent but nice to hear it all the same.
that's interesting
He’s taking correspondence courses in education.
And the Yankees were the only other team with any interest in drafting him. They didn’t have a draft pick until the end of the second round that year. I wonder if they had had a first round pick, if the Reds would have picked Votto in the first round.
Also interesting: Votto took drama in high school?
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i pretty assumed Votto took drama in high school
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that's an interesting question
it sounds like the Yankees scout was pressing him alot too. It would be very strange if Votto were a Yankee now. I wonder if he’d be what he is right now if he had gone with them.
he might have ended up a Red anyway
The Yanks were still trading most of their prospects in those days.
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now tied with the Brewers
Does sharing first place still count as wire to wire?
I still heart LeCure. He said the runs didn’t bother him as much as not being able to eat innings and spare the pen.
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First place is first place
damnit
"At the very end, somebody took a dump right where I stood in the dugout every day." Dusty Baker
yes because typically you'll be tied with somebody in your division the first couple of games ...
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
I still heart LeCure as well
he has pitched well so far and lowered our first inning ERA! I also really believe him when he says he wanted to save the pen and that he wanted to stop the skid
somebody needs to start picking the opposition more ...
nobody picked the dbacks last night …
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
I'm just going to say it now.....
This will take care of someone else picking the opposition to the reds. I hereby predict the reds to lose every remaining game they play, no matter who it’s against….just go with it!
by BiggerRedMachines on Apr 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
bleh...
cueto please… like, now.
"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein
reports are bailey first, then cueto
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
yes, i'm aware.
"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein
Argh..
Deflating loss last night…I don’t think I’ll have the stomach to watch the condensed version on mlb.com today.
LeCure still has team leading ERA of 4.15. /kicks dirt
FWIW: yahoo boxscore has Roberts homering in 1st and 5th, Johnson in the 3rd, and Young in the 6th.
It’s a long season, we’ll right this mutha yet.
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by Howie Feltersnatch on Apr 20, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions
So, should I be worried?
Now that the crappy starting pitching from spring training has turned into the crappy starting pitching of the regular season?
I guess its only April, but this is starting to worry me.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
i just keep remembering last April and hoping the team will figure it out like they did last year
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
At this point last year the Reds were 7-11.
Think about it. That included sweeps by the Pirates and the Padres.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. ~ Winston Churchill
by BigBabyBruce on Apr 20, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not worried yet
Bailey and Cueto are coming back, Volkie can still fix whatever mental hangup he’s got with the first inning, and Bronson’s getting over being sick. It’s work itself out.
Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Apr 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
by joshuar9476 on Apr 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I think its Padres game threads
I don’t know what game situation has to occur, but they’ll post dozens of pictures of unicorns. Its pretty strange, sort of like being in the middle of some social network of early grade girls.
ahem, RR had a penguin night recently
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damnit C ... you just snuck yours in before mine ... well played!
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
by joshuar9476 on Apr 20, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't be worried.
We are missing two starters and we started out slow last year as well. They will get it together and go on a run. I just hope it’s sooner rather than later.
by BiggerRedMachines on Apr 20, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Weird game last night
Never really felt like the Reds were going to win for some reason. Logan hit 98(!) on the gun, The play in RF with Bruce was weird, and I managed to attend a MLB game and only spend $12 all night including parking. Oh, and the dollar hot dogs are kind of greenish looking. But the crisp bun helps!
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
dollar hot dogs have an unwarranted bad reputation
sure they were green, but they were a dollar!
and they are just as good as any gas station hot dog you’ll find.
That was the most app description by far
“They’re worth a buck. Better than what you’d get at a gas station.”
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
Just like the Bar Louie burgers
But they come with free lettuce! Advantage: Bar Louie!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Did the dogs come with free lettuce?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Woah
That does change the equation. Though I hate relish and onions on my dog, and I hate lettuce on my burger. So the burger still wins! Cheese was only 50 cents extra!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
What if I told you there was free ketchup and mustard as well? Then what?
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
Then the burger just outright obliterates the dog
The only thing worse than free ketchup and mustard is paying for it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll stick to cotton candy and funnel fries
Hot dogs scare the crap out of me.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Apr 20, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
The dollar dog was pretty bad. But I didn't throw it up!
Billy Hamilton: Snax
Devin Mesoraco: Snacks
Another ringing endorsement
I was on the back deck about to get in the hot tub last night and burped. Then I had to explain to my wife why I said, “damnit!”.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
I don't think I could complain about a dollar dog at an MLB park. Green, red, whatever. If they are a dollar I'll eat 'em.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. ~ Winston Churchill
by BigBabyBruce on Apr 20, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Another thought from the game last night
VERY sparse crowd. Announced attendance of just under 13K was a damned lie. Which meant no waiting in line like usual. ‘tHan and I couldn’t figure out why people were standing in line for urinals while multiple stalls were empty. Huh?
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
I wonder if they'll do this for baseball games
Ticketmaster to roll out ‘dynamic pricing’
The world’s largest purveyor of live-event tickets said Monday that it had partnered with MarketShare to help adjust ticket prices for its shows. Ticketmaster will begin rolling out the “dynamic pricing” sometime this year, initially for major sporting events and concerts, and for arts and theater at a later date.
As for the urinals…and here I thought guys didn’t have to wait in lines for the potty.
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It's not as bad as women have it, but yeah
The big thing with men’s restrooms at the ballpark is to avoid the ones on the main concourse. Men generally run toward the first bathroom they see and won’t turn back when they see a ridiculous line.
Also, I caused a GABP to curse loudly (supposedly, I didn’t hear her) when I knocked the cover off the bathroom door hinge just inside the stadium.
Oh, that reminds me. I need to see how well the Chewbacca Fan recording turned out.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
Giants have been doing this for two years.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 20, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
In other news, the Angels have designated Brandon Wood for assignment.
Does that dude qualify as a bust yet?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
i would say a career .168 BA would make you say, "yes,sir."
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by joshuar9476 on Apr 20, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember but was he ever given steady playing time?
I thought he was always shuffled around from starter, bench, and AAA.
What was his defense like?
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. ~ Winston Churchill
by BigBabyBruce on Apr 20, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
As I recall, he hits about .168 on defense too
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I guess that sums that up.
I was wondering more along the lines if he struggles were because of his situation in the organization, or if he just sucks.
A change may work for him, and it only helps if he can pick it at 3B.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly. ~ Winston Churchill
by BigBabyBruce on Apr 20, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
And this will plunge you right back into despair
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
that is so depressing
but very interesting biologically speaking.
btw, how do you link to a time signature on youtube? I’ve never been able to do that right
They've made it really easy now
Pause the vid where you want it to start, right click on the progress button and select “Copy video URL at current time” or whatever.
Or if you want to do it by hand, add #t=1m45s after the link if you would like it to start at the 1:45 mark.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
thanks!
a couple of days ago I wanted to post a clip but the relevant part was embedded in an 8 minute vid so I just gave up on it. Now I can post edited pointless clips!
Hmmm
My link wasn’t supposed to start in the middle. I guess I did that by accident.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong recap
did u watch the game? Who ever made that recap is way off! Armando didnt HR, \Drew didnt HR, Upton is the one who almost HR, Parra didnt lead off the 5th witha 2b, watch the game before you write a frecap. Everything in that recap is WRONG.. those plays dont exist
He explained it upthread
ESPN’s boxscore was wrong, and that’s where he got the info.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Nobody reads the other notes!
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Apr 20, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Asking someone to read is too much..
I mean they are essentially getting on RR to read the blogs and articles. One would think it wouldn’t be too much to ask to read the ENTIRE article! haha
by BiggerRedMachines on Apr 20, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Though to be fair
he did read most of the recap, and he was right that it was completely wrong.
It’s fairly easy not to notice the stuff that’s after the jump.
Still not a candidate.
He's also right that I didn't watch the game at all
If you check the game thread, I’m pretty darn positive that none of my comments have to do with the game itself. If he’d like his money back, I’m more than happy to refund him.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 20, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
hey you got the jist down
Fact of the matter is there were homers where you said there were homers….since they weren’t by the reds it doesn’t matter who hit them….but for the record….ESPN blows! I wouldn’t admit that as a source anymore ;) haha
by BiggerRedMachines on Apr 20, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
I actually like espn.com as a source for the Other Notes tidbits
Largely because it saves me from having to create my own by poring through Baseball-Reference pages and trying to compute up-to-date OPSs.
But this got me thinking. If you saw the game anyway, then what do you need the recap for? And if you didn’t see it, then wouldn’t you like to hear about how the team you like was awesome and totally beat those anonymously evil players from Camp Tiger Claw? I might be inspired to write fake recaps in the future.
by Brendanukkah on Apr 20, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Please use the NY Daily News style from here on out
You can find an example here.
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