Some nights fake fights turn out bad. Some nights actresses get slapped. Reds lose, 7-6.
Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Jay Bruce. Despite a baserunning blunder, the rightfielder went 4-5 with a home run, two runs scored, and two RBI. Honorable mentions go to Miguel Cairo and Paul Janish.
Key Plays
- Edinson Volquez has been a huge Volqueztion Mark during the first innings of games this year, and today was no different. It's not wondering what we can expect from the Wagon; we know it will be awful. It's just shaking our heads wondering how he can be that bad in that particular inning. Anyway, Andrew McCutchen and Jose Tabata hit back to back home runs to lead off the game. Shades of Opening Day. Lyle Overbay walked and Neil Walker hit a double to put both runners in scoring position before Volquez mercifully recorded an out by striking out Pedro Alvarez. Garrett Jones walked, loading the bases, and then Chris Snyder walked, overloading the bases. Ronny Cedeno hit a sacrifice fly to score Walker, before Jeff Karstens struck out, completing the inning and the bat-around. Pirates lead, 4-0.
- In the bottom of the second, Jonny Gomes homered to put the good guys on the board. It was Gomes's sixth home run of the season, a third of the way to last year's total. Pirates lead, 4-1.
- With two outs in the bottom of the fourth, the Reds got singles from Jay Bruce, Ramon Hernandez, and Paul Janish. Bruce scored as McCutchen mishandled Janish's hit, but Hernandez was held at third. Edinson Volquez then grounded out. Pirates lead, 4-2.
- The Reds' offense came to life an inning later. Miguel Cairo hit a one out home run, Joey Votto singled, and then Scott Rolen's double tied the game up. Daniel McCutchen came in to relieve Jeff Karstens and got Jonny Gomes to fly out, but Jay Bruce singled and drove in Rolen, giving the Reds the lead. Reds lead, 5-4.
- The joy was short-lived, though. Volquez had pitched well after his first inning ineptitude, but as his pitch count crept over 100, he gave up a game-tying home run to Garrett Jones. Jordan Smith came in in relief, but the results were all too familiar. Pinch hitter John Bowker doubled, driving in Ronny Cedeno, who had walked one batter before. Pirates lead, 6-5.
- The Reds loaded the bases with one out in the bottom of the inning, but Joey Votto struck out and Scott Rolen grounded out.
- Jay Bruce homered off of Jose Veras in the seventh, tying the game. Game tied, 6-6.
- Logan Ondrusek came in to pitch the eighth inning, and promptly surrendered a single to Garrett Jones. Chris Snyder bunted, but Ondrusek couldn't field the ball cleanly and both runners were safe on the corners. Ronny Cedeno hit the ball back to the mound, and Ondrusek and Ryan Hanigan got Jones out at the plate. Steve Pearce popped up what should have been the third out, but Snyder's successful bunt came back to haunt. Andrew McCutchen used the extra out afforded him to hit a single, and Snyder scored the go-ahead run. Pirates lead, 7-6.
- The Reds threatened in the final two innings. They had two men on in the eighth and Scott Rolen hit a screamer that was snagged by Ronny Cedeno and flipped to Neil Walker for an inning ending double play. In the ninth, Bruce singled, but was tagged out when he stepped back across the first base foul line. That blunder really hurt because pinch hitter Edgar Renteria and Paul Janish both singled, advanced on a wild pitch, and were joined on the bases by Ryan Hanigan who worked a walk. But then Drew Stubbs flew out to end the game. Pirates win, 7-6.
Other Notes
- Brandon Phillips and his .866 OPS were missing from the lineup for the third straight game. His backup, Miguel Cairo, played well, but the team is definitely missing Phillips.
- This is the first time in Pirates history that the first two batters have homered and Pittsburgh has won the game.
- Edinson Volquez's ERA is 29.25 in the first inning, and 1.93 in all other innings.
- The winning pitcher's last name, spelled backwards, is "Poser."
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at the end of the day the only thing that matters
Is the health of the injured rozzi fireworks injury who received 2nd degree burns in the 8th inning fireworks mishap.
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Apr 17, 2011 6:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
*injured rozzis employee
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Apr 17, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
recd for the reference!!!
Roar forever. Gooooooooooooooooooal!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Apr 17, 2011 9:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Another season and another early-season bad series with the Pirates.
Ah, well. Volquez sure was bad. And we sure were unlucky.
I’m going to make a stat to measure ugliness of a game. Ugliness factor will be higher with errors, end-of-bat-bloops against, infield hits against, walks allowed, and strikeouts.
And Matt Kemp just walked off for the Dodgers. Ryan Franklin sucks.
Franklin just blew the save for the Redbirds
I found this and thought it was fitting:
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 17, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
and Washington
has been beating up on Milwaukee today. Opportunity=lost. It is only April and I think I’m still in August dead-heat-with-St. Louis mode, but I hate letting good opportunities slip away,
Haha
Yeah I’m stuck in “we need to win every game and keep them from gaining on us” mode. It’s fun having a good team.
by wishfuldrifter on Apr 17, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but...
We do need to be winning these games… bc, starting in mid-May, our schedule is ridiculous. We need to be winning every series against teams like the Pirates & D-Backs, etc.
Frankly, I want to bury the Cards and the Brewers, because both teams are in desperation mode. If they are still in it at the trade deadline, don’t be surprised to see one or both of the teams sell the farm. We won’t make any of those type of trades because of our long-term strength.
a large cushion early in the season in nice
i wouldn’t mind being able to relax as a Reds fan
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
"Edinson Volquez's ERA is 29.25 in the first inning, and 1.93 in all other innings"
That is insane.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Yeah, I don't get it.
I mean, I don’t necessarily agree with some who blame Edison for not caring, or preparing enough (possible, but not definitive)…but something’s gotta be wrong… right?
it could sort of a mental block by now
he had a rough first couple of games, gut roughed up in the first last week but Heisey bailed him out.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This is disgusting
According to Elias Sports Bureau, Edinson Volquez is the first pitcher to allow consecutive home runs leading off a game twice in the same season since KC’s Chad Durbin in 2000.
And I think Durbin is the only other guy to do it.
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He is
STATS checked for me today. Cuz I’m important.
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I need to say this
Matt Holliday is a bit of a badass for coming back from an appendectomy and continuing to do well.
It's really not that serious of a procedure.
I had one. It was about a week and I was back to 100%.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
it really depends
like Harang had one and missed the final 6 weeks of 2009, Dunn only missed a couple of games.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Harang missing the final 6 weeks of 2009...
Was he pitching well before that though? The Reds might have just wanted to be done with him.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
he had an ERA+ that year around 100
In his last 5 starts of 2009 he had thrown 35.1 innings, with an ERA of 4.08 (it was inflated a bit due to two game where Dusty sent him out for the 8th with over 100 pitches under his belt, and he was gassed and gave up a few extra runs).
That is why I am curious what would have happened if Harang would have stayed healthy and ended that year strong.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the Reds still would've finished in 4th, probably.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
I mean more for Harang than the Reds
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ah hah
well, that was the year of the 16-inning game’s relief appearance, no? I’m not sure if more work would be a good thing. I have nothing to base this on, though.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
2008 was the relief appearance
2009 was the mediocre year after it.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was just that the Reds were out of it in 2009
and there was no use burning a pitcher’s arm because of it.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
but given the Dunn and Holliday come backs, he could have missed one or two starts and came back
Cueto hurt his elbow in the middle of August, 2008 and came back in September, and again Cueto went down with shoulder fatigue in August, 2009 and came back late in the season.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 17, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
That Bruce play in the 9th was weird
I’m not sure what the real blunder was, the slight rounding or the trying to bolt for 2nd after Overbay had the ball. I have a feeling if he had just gone back to first nonchalantly, the ump would have called him safe, but I watched him the whole way and he clearly thought he had made too much of a turn and wasn’t real sure what to do about it. Like Welsh said, it’s one of those plays that happens so fast, there’s not a whole lot you can do to make it right.
The real annoying play that inning though was Stubbs swinging with a 2-0 count after that pederast Hanrahan was all over the place that inning. At the very least, you have to make him throw a strike first. I firmly believe Stubbs could have taken every pitch and the Reds would have scored a run. Dude had no control in 9th.
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by Slyde on Apr 17, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
i firmly believe
Stubbs could have taken every pitch and wound up striking out without attempting to put the ball in play.
Coulds are awesome!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Apr 17, 2011 9:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, but I'm right and you're not
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by Slyde on Apr 17, 2011 9:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't know
The pitch he swung at was a meatball right down the middle. He just got underneath it a little bit. He was sitting on the perfect pitch to hit, and he got it. He just didn’t hit it right.
I would have wanted him to make Hanrahan throw 3 strikes, but I can’t blame him for going after his pitch.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 17, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I ain't pissed about it or anything
But in that situation I’d like the hitter to force a strike first. A 2-1 count still favors the hitter and at that point I just want to get the game tied.
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by Slyde on Apr 17, 2011 9:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brewers lose...
So, the net effect of this weekend is the Brewers move back a game and St. Louis moves up. Still, gotta be winning these series against the Pirates.
i think Volquez realized that Jim Joyce was the first base ump
and he didn’t want Joyce to get thrust in the spotlight again by giving him the opportunity to blow another perfect game. he’s really just looking out for the well-being of the umps when he does this.
by Heeringa on Apr 17, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
so,
I just learned about Ashley Madison tonight. Anyone else hear of this fine, fine, service?
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
I feel like I heard of it in a really random way
and I was confused then, and I still am.
Still not a candidate.
pretty simple concept
tHan and I are concerned that you are confused…
In unrelated news we just saw ric flair in a tank top in person!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Apr 17, 2011 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this is extraordinarily related news as far as tHan is concerned.
"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein
I think there was a bit of a hubbub about a Super Bowl commercial, maybe you heard of them there?
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
IT is a peculiar dating service
Their advertised “objective” is to find people who want to have affairs.
But all in all, it’s still just another dating service.
#NotIntendedToBeAFactualStatement
I heard of it
Slate had an article about it, written by a journalist who went undercover (but not under covers). She wanted to know why people joined.
She got over 150 messages overnight. Apparently, a lot more men join than women. (Surprise, surprise.) She eventually went on dates with a few of the less scary prospects. The guys all claimed to be happily married (or engaged and looking forward to marriage). So why cheat? For many of them, it was just the excitement and the challenge. They said they missed not knowing if they were going to get any at the end of the evening.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Women cheat as much (if not more) than women
They’re just not dumb enough to leave a trail like that, generally.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
And I would imagine a female journalist would get more messages from guys than chicks
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 18, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions
it was the ceo of the company
who told her that 65% of their customers were male. The deluge of responses was an effect of that, not the way she determined the male/female ratio.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I don't think that's accurate
Women do cheat, but not as much as men. Of course there’s a lot of individual variation in both sexes, but in general, women are less likely to be promiscuous. It may not apply in today’s world of reliable contraception and DNA tests, but our behavior evolved in the stone age. When women had a lot more to lose than men when it came to casual sex.
IME, women are more likely to cheat with guys they know rather than random strangers. And they can be just as dumb about it as men.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I don't know
All the surveys and data I’ve seen (I’m going on memory here though, so don’t take my word for it) show that a higher percentage of women than men cheat. I can’t remember much about other than the fact that I was surprised it wasn’t the other way around.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Apr 18, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
This probably unreliable msnbc poll
says 28% of married men cheat, and 18% of married women. The article quotes a more reliable poll that found 22 and 15.
no, it's the opposite
Men are more likely to cheat.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
That's been my impression, too.
I don’t think there are huge differences in the prevalence of cheating by women and men, but I do think they tend to cheat for slightly different reasons. So they end up doing it in slightly different ways too.
Still not a candidate.
15 hits and only 6 runs?
didn’t see the game, but it sounds like Bruce’s baserunning play definitely cost the Reds some runs, and just bad luck otherwise, I guess. It sucks to lose a series to the Pirates like this. Charlie Morton and Jeff Karstens beat the Reds, it hurts. We should probably have 2 more wins or maybe 3. Oh well, I wanna get Phillips healthy and have a nice streak of winning like 9 of 11 or something.
Karstens didn't beat the Reds
When he left the game, the Reds had the lead (actually they took the lead after he left, but it was a runner he left). He gets no credit for that.
As for Bruce, who knows if the inning plays out the same way if he’s on base. It sucked, but he also just as easily could have been out at first if Snyder makes a clean throw to first. The real issue this game was Volquez. The first inning sucked, but let’s not forget that he blew the lead after the Reds worked all the way back.
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by Slyde on Apr 17, 2011 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think the Reds beat the Reds today.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Huh
Pete wasn’t a terrible looking guy in his younger days.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
A polished turd?
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Apr 17, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Their awful jokes.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Apr 17, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ehh
Decent relation but I was referring to the Jay Bruce play where it wasn’t Jay’s fault
LTP is for Stubbs only!
I didn't get to take part in this, so ....
I didn’t understand all that penguin stuff.
But it was sure funny.

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Then Came Bronson ('s Dad)

MADS and ASH - Taking out the Trash - 2012
by Madville on Apr 17, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
anyone watching Coachella's feed?
The Queen City’s own The National are being dark and haunting and beautiful right now.
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
My mind's not right, my mind's not right
not enough for an SIS, but too much for a fanshot. But I can’t get to sleep and I got something to say.
-How old is too old to be angsty at your family?
-What did you think you’d be doing at this age when you were 12?
-Logan Ondrusek: Is he capably of being a late-inning guy? Or is he just a lanky John Reidling? His peripherals have always been solid, but I’ve just never been blown away by his stuff. And I like having the humor of using Long Logan as the Long Man. Thoughts?
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
Answers
- Who isn’t angsty at their family?
- I thought I’d either be a major league baseball player, a rock star, or a college student. I was rather correct on 1/3 of them.
- Dude’s been solid so far. I’d say he’s perfectly competent for middle relief, maybe a few setup situations this season, perhaps a setup man in the future.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
ah, right, you're awake
going to the games in St Louis next week?
Let's not kid ourselves. It's really, really, bad.
by Cy Schourek on Apr 18, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
at 12
I could not imagine being a grown-up. I suppose I thought I’d be doing the same thing I was doing then (which was mostly watching Star Trek reruns, IIRC).
And I definitely could not imagine my future self would like baseball. I hated baseball back then. It was slow. And boring. And pre-empted Star Trek reruns.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
never too late to be angty at your family
and at 12 I imagined I’d be working as a cartoonist or animator by now. Its strange, I never really did end up pursuing that even though I still like to sketch. I guess my interests changed some and I decided I didn’t have enough natural talent at it.
Like Bubba, I did watch Star Trek reruns too but moreso 60s sitcoms lol! I also enjoyed some NBA and MLB at the time
Hmm
-I am not sure, depends on what they are like.
-Concert Pianist.
-Yes, he has mid 90s stuff, his fastball averages 92.3, so he can touch 94. David Weathers was a solid late inning guy, 7th, 8th, and closer, with much less.
"Nobody hits Satchel." -Satchel Paige
by justin007000 on Apr 18, 2011 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Logan will be fine
I’m still occasionally angsty at my family, it happens.
22 years ago I thought I would be independently wealthy and on the cover of magazine across the globe. While that didn’t happen, I’m genuinely happy when I wake up every morning. I’ll gladly take it.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
re:
- If it’s random teenage angst i’d say 18 is the over—15 is the under. If it’s angst caused by years of shitty parenting, it could be unmitigated throughout their life. My sister is 16 and she’s starting to come out of her I-hate-everything phase. She’s had zero adversity in her life so far, she’s just a punkass little shit. Once mature kids get out on their own they realize how much their families did for them and scale back the ’tudes.
- I didn’t have grandiose aspirations for myself until I was 17 or so. But that’s when I realized that I wanted to own a bar someday. At 12 I probably wanted to be a roadie for Green Day or the next Hunter S. Thompson.
- I think he’s capable. That 93 mph fastball looks a lot faster coming out of a 6’8" frame. Probably not the ideal candidate on this team since his K/9 has historically hovered around the mid-6s (although it’s 10+ this year, SSS!). I like him in the 6th and 7th. I’d prefer Leake as our Long Man because he’s great the first time through the lineup, not so great after. Plus he can pinch hit if necessary.
"i would’ve just been like. Votto rapes all, cubs suck and cards are WLBs." -- Big Stein
I will probably be adoption angsty until my own kids have grown up - but that's because I am kind of a shit.
(That’s not really at my family, per se, but close enough).
I thought I would be an engineer or a monkey wrencher when I was 12
Logan is what he is – I have my doubts he’ll ever be good enough to be a shut-down reliever on a playoff team, but I think he’ll hang around on someone’s ML roster for awhile. I’d rather have him than overpay for someone who will be marginally better.
They didn't even have to grow up
For me, once I had kids I quit caring about where I came from and started worrying about where I was headed since I had innocents along for the ride.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
I feel like I'm going to worry about what to tell my kids about where they come from.
And why they don’t look like any of their grandparents. But you’re probably right.
Kids are pretty cool with whatever you tell them
Remember, you create their “normal”. The hardest part for me was in the prenatal care when they ask a lot of “do you have any family history of xyz?” questions. It sucked not being able to help them out.
My kids understand that they have a total of two grandpas and four grandmas, and that I was adopted by my uncle. I’ve been honest with them while softening the harsh realities involved.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
Angsty about your family?
It depends. If you come from an Eastern European Jewish family, like my wife, then the proper answer is “You are never too old”. If you come from an Irish/German Catholic family like me, the proper answer is “Quit your whining and have a drink.”
I don’t think I gave it much serious thought at age 12, but if you asked me at the time I probably would have guessed I would be doing what my father did – sit at a desk and screw around with a computer (although back in those days, only computer programmers were doing that). So, success!!
Logan Ondrusek is definitely capable of being a late inning guy. Whether he will get that opportunity in Cincinnati is another matter entirely, with Chapman and Massett in front of him, and Donnie Joseph coming up behind him.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Apr 18, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait, you're German and she's Eastern European Jewish?
I bet family reunions must be a blast if grandparents are still alive.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71
My grandparents all passed away long before I met her
However, I have heard stories that my Grandmother used to speak German in public (in Detroit) during the 1940’s. I can’t imagine that made her very popular. Fortunately for my father, his stepfather was blessed with a perfectly English name, so he didn’t have to put umlauts on his school papers while we were fighting Hitler.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Apr 18, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I've got the perfect solution.
Until Ed works out his 1st inning problems, the front office tells him every start that the game starts an hour earlier than posted. Bring up players from Louisville and disguise them as the opponent. Then, after pitching an inning, fill the ballpark with fake rain so there is a delay. When the actual game starts, he already thinks he has pitched the first inning and therefore looks like a stud.
by Jack Armstrong started an All Star Game on Apr 18, 2011 7:51 AM EDT reply actions
watched the new Clash of the Titans last night ...
it was much better than the old Clash of the Titans, something you don’t normally see with a remake.
"And a high fly ball to center field. He hit it a ton. And the 2010 National League Central Division Champs are the Cincinnati Reds!"
Yeah, but the old Clash of the Titans was really bad
I mean, I had fond memories of it, but it doesn’t hold up well at all. For that matter, little of the Harryhausen stuff does, both because the minatures look increasingly silly and the acting tended to be really, really bad.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Apr 18, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I will take any and every opportunity to post this
A tribute to Ray Harryhausen. One of my all time favorite internet clips.
"I'm telling you, my other poo story is much better." -- btcoop71

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