Cactus League Game 10: Reds @ Royals
Yesterday was a Spring blowout of epic proportions. The Brewers' mostly-JV squad had so many hits we should probably call them Elvis Presley, Elton John, the Beatles, Madonna or Stevie Wonder. But as with all things - and Spring doubly so - it's worth putting it in perspective. There were all kinds of wacky scores around the Cactus League yesterday, due in part to windy conditions: 14-13, 12-1, 16-16, 11-3. It was troublesome to see so many players struggling who have guaranteed spots on the Opening Day roster - especially the starting pitchers against a B-team lineup. But blowouts can have a create a weird snowball effect, even in Arizona.
By the time you read the this, the Reds will already have a game underway. A lineup including Man of the Moment Dave Sappelt - and very similar to what we might see on the Lousville Bats this season - plays the Indians, at 11:30 EST at Indians Practice Field. This is not an official split squad day, but rather a 'B' game, which is the Exhibition Game's Exhibition Game. Over on the A Side, the Reds travel to another delightfully-named spring venue, Suprise Stadium (How does this rank alongside Camelback Ranch and HoHoKam Park?)
Travis Wood, the only rotation candidate left who's both made an appearance and maintained a 0.00 spring ERA (2 IP), will pitch first. He'll be followed by Matt Maloney, Sam LeCure and Dontrelle Willis. I'd long-assumed Bill Bray's spot in the bullpen is secure, but lefties Maloney and Willis might be secretly hoping that it isn't. I'll stick to the line that it's madness to consider Travis Wood anything less than a 5th starter - and yesterday probably nudged him a little closer to taking a spot in the rotation. In other news, it may be time to make your peace with seeing Edgar Renteria batting second when he's in the lineup.
And that Royals outfield is a Braves fan's nightmare.
Despite the blowout and TV/radio silence for today's game, good news abounds. Sean Casey is in camp today, following on the heels of Barry Larkin's cameo yesterday. Another exciting tidbit: John Fay reports that we'll be getting a match-up of Reds Openings Day starters past and present tomorrow, as 2008 ace Edinson Volquez takes on his predecessor (and member of the Red Reporter pantheon) Aaron Harang in Peoria, AZ.
It's morning in Reds Country.
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do I get to be FIRST?
Let’s hope not.
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(and if you didn't call shotgun,
you get to ride Granny in the back seat.)
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Is that a plot from one of your novels?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Mar 8, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
this is a fun meme
you aren’t offended I hope, Johnu?
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
You know, by insinuating that you wrote about anal penetration with a grandmother in an automobile.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Gas, grass, or ass
Nobody rides for free holmes.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
by jch24 on Mar 8, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
These folks rode for free homes:
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But I wouldn’t begrudge them for not holding quality herb.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
geez guys
back in high school, when we went out trollin’ for chicks on friday night, the guys who didn’t have a car would all yell “shotgun,” which meant they got to ride front passenger. If you didn’t, you rode in the back seat, thus being the dorks of the group. We called that ridin’ Granny.
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I think we know that, but we like to be silly.
Especially with double-meanings and absurd literalism.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
It was later amended to riding "bitch"
Or if you had to sit in the back of a van with no seat (sitting on a bucket, etc) you were riding “immigrant”.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Um, I'm pretty sure that's correct.
Muy bien, TíoWeez!
by the finest muffins on Mar 8, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Pre-9/11, a bunch of us NBC folks left a conference for a bite to eat.
Not wanting to shell out extra parking money, we all piled into one car to drive the 6 blocks: 2 in the front, 4 in the back, and Carlos in the trunk of my PT Cruiser. The security guy at the parking garage shocked me by searching the trunk, only to find a friendly, waving, Mexican-American in the back.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
what else did he expect to find?
It’s not like we carry spare tires back there these days.
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hahaha, I would have loved to seen the reaction there
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
'ay, mutha fucka....
where was ya born?
I was born in East L.A., man, I was born in East L.A.
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actually, riding a bitch in the back seat
carried its own unique meaning, no confusion there.
“she’s gonna love me in Chevy van, and that’s all right with me.”
Name that singer!!!
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That was good ol' Sammy Johns, no?
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Si, Si, Sue.
I always loved the imagery of that song. The description he gives of this woman and the ride through nowhere … awesome tune.
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I remember always hearing it on those "Super Sounds of the '70's"
records that ran infomercials on weekend afternoons.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Barry Larkin today said that Billy Hamilton is more athletic than he was
Doesn’t mean he can hit like Lark, but still.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
now if Neon Deion says that
nah, would never happen.
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
Please
Call him Prime Time.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
How athletic was Larkin in his younger years?
I mean, I know the guy was a brilliant defender and could steal bases with anyone, but do we have any present day comparisons?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Hard to say
But he was really athletic. Hamilton is obviously faster, but Larkin was one agile mofo at SS.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Larkin was a 3-sport star in high school
and when he went to Michigan, Bo Schembechler tried to get him to play football too. He was a pretty damn good athlete.
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I'd bet present day Larkin could start for present day Michigan's defense
#turrible
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You think that new coach can fix things?
‘caaaaaaaauuuuuuuse…I don’t.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
No, I don't
But I do think Greg Mattison (the new DC) can fix the defense. He was the DC for the Ravens for a while. So he obviously knows defense and that pedigree is going to bring in a lot of good defensive recruits.
I don’t trust the head coach at all, but we’ll see. My main concern is that they try to turn Denard into a pro-style pocket passer next year, which would be a disaster. What’s going to be interesting is that the team returns 20 starters and has an easier schedule in 2011, so they’ll definitely win more games, maybe as many as 9. So people are going to think Hoke turned things around when really he just inherited a team on the brink.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Yeah
I really like Rich Rod as a coach, and I think he was really moving in the right direction, but he obviously was not working well there. Oh well, I guess in the long run it’s the school’s loss. Which is just fine by me :)
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Jerk :-)
I liked him too, but the defense was just too much. I’ve read a bunch of football sabr-y type things about him, and under the surface the program wasn’t moving in the right direction. The team suffered more “blowout” losses (I think defined by double digit losses) in his 3 years than in any other 3 year stretch in history. The defense was actually getting worse too.
And you have to blame him for the defense. No one outside of his office thought Robinson was anything but a disaster of a DC. He was literally one of the worst coaches I’ve ever seen at any level. RichRod would make a great OC or a HC at a school where the defense doesn’t need to be good, but he just wasn’t going to cut it at UM.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Yeah, D was never much of a concern for him at WVU either
My uncle always yelled at him about that. But who needs D in the Big East?
And though I’m giving you guff for it, it’s tough to watch Michigan wither like it has. I never really hated them like most OSU fans do. I want to see them win every game but one, you know? It’s no fun watching OSU beat up on a weak Michigan team.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Well
I shouldn’t say “no” fun, but it’s certainly not as fun as if they were good.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you mean,
and a lot of OSU fans agree that The Michigan Game® is more fun when UM is good. But it’s sweet having the Bucks in the drivers seat when all you saw growing up was disappointment.
But I sincerely hope Hoke brings them back to respectability. It’s good for the conference and the rivalry.
Michigan can fix things
They need to downgrade their schedule.
Appalachian State maybe.
Wait ….
never mind.
Put Sabo in.
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That 2006 game still gives me a boner
Right up there with the Miami National Championship Game for best game I’ve ever seen.
Was there. Got really, really drunk before hand. Smoked like two cigars afterward.
Passed out on a couch holding a half-eaten burrito.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Smoke burritos before drinking
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When Kentucky basketball has been down, it's not nearly as fun for me
A good rivalry needs both teams to be competitive and successful in order to thrive. tOSU needs Michigan to be good for their own sake.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
All I know about basketball this year and tOSU
those mother-bleepers are too damned good for their own damned good. If they cut down just a teeny bit on the stupid shots … but are deep enough? Ya gotsta have a bench.
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Too young, not deep enough
The team that could get on a huge roll if they get hot is Notre Dame.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
agreed, but these guys are good
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I don't intend to threadjack this much
I just saw Oh. State absolutely destroy Wisconsin on Sunday. Their defense was scary good.
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They have some great talent for sure, but so do a lot of other teams
Texas has a ton of talent too, but Rick Barnes is the coach.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
tosu can win the big 10 and get a 1 seed
after that, that’s where the bench comes into play. You gotta go 8 deep.
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They go 7 1/3 deep. Of their 31 games Sibert's seen time in 22, Smith Jr., 18
and Weatherspoon, 10.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
/Raaaaaaven Riley'd?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Too young, not deep enough"
That’s what everyon said about 2007 team. I’d take another trip to the Final Four.
/I’mjustsayin’
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Its what they said about last year's UK team.
It’s what they’ve said about this year’s UK team.
It’s what they’ll say about next year’s UK team. And the next, and the next, and the next…
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
what's the best seed ND can get?
any guesses?
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Right now the best I've seen is 2. Some think they could get a 1 if they win the BE tourney.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
That would knock Pitt backward, to be sure
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I think they'll end up with a #1
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
After beating Pitt in the BET finals
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
1 seed in the East?
Oh. State a 1 seed in the MW.
Duke a 1 seed in the South.
So … Kansas, BYU, Texas or somebody else in the West?
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Kansas in the West, tOSU in the Midwest, ND in the East, and possibly UNC in the South if they win the ACC Tourney
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
These are my crazy guesses
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
It's good for CBS
thus good for the USA.
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kansas for sure. ohio state for sure
if duke or unc win the acc tourny they will be a 1.
if nd or pitt win the big east tourny they will be a 1.
Nc would need to thump Duke pretty hard
to get a 1 seed. I guess they could, but I would be surprised if Dukey isn’t a 1 seed.
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unc just thumped duke really hard
and then their fans rushed the court like a bunch of idiots.
if unc beats them again they’ll definitely get the 1 seed
For real, UNC storming the court was pathetic.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know basketball at all
Why is storming the court a bad thing? Is it strictly a “act like you’ve been there before” thing? Because I think I would be in favor of a fanbase that saw consistent winning and still felt it was special enough to boisterously run on the court.
I don't know the reasons
but for some reason, if the game isn’t like … for the world marbles title, storming the court is kind of … dunno … childish. I was never part of that culture so it doesn’t mean anything to me, one way or the other.
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With UNC
They’re a team that’s expected to win anyway. Storming is usually reserved for huge upsets. Beating Duke was a good win, but it wasn’t ground breaking or even overly surprising.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
It's definitely a "act like you've been there before"
It would be like #13 OSU tearing down the goalposts after beating #4 Michigan in Columbus.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
or Appy State beating Michigan
I mean, that always happens, so what’s the big deal?
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That game was in Michigan
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Mizzou tore down the goal posts after beating Nebraska
for the first time in like 20 years.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Back at Evansville
some frat boys tore down the goal posts one night and the next week, the school dropped football.
Painful.
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That's probably right
I had thought Duke had won handily the first time but it wasn’t.
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They're my first least favorite team.
I would burn down their town if it was almost the civil war.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Burning oreo package don't ...
… I think you see where I’m headed with this.
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No need, Bill Self will find a way to do that on his own
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I'll buy you a burger and beer of your choice if Syracuse wins the Big East Tournament
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
you're on
what do you want if I’m wrong?
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 10, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
The same (burger and beer) will be fine
It’ll be great if Syracuse and Louisville end up in the finals. Louisville has to get past ND tonight though…..
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Me too
Sadly L’Ville doesn’t really have any thugs/enforcers. Wait a sec, Jennings might be just the guy.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
that's because swopshire got injured
they need to unleash the eastern ky thug in elisha justice!
by 'tHan on Mar 11, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This made me laugh, hard. A rec for you.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 11, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I second this!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 11, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
deal
we’re not, i repeat, NOT going to sQuatman’s
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 11, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
UK beat them easily on a neutral court
that punk Hansbrough can’t stay hot in 4 consecutive games to get them to the final 4
I hate Hansborough
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I hate both Hansboroughs
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
if matta doesn't win the title this year
it’s time to start asking if he has that ability. with the talent he’s had, it’s really surprising he hasn’t won a national title.
Same with Calipari.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Or Tom Crean ...
… seriously, winning a national title is very difficult.
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by johnu1 on Mar 8, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
of course it's a joke
Crean would be happy if his team got the 65th bid for an NIT slot.
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I just don't condemn coaches for not winning it in a short term.
Now, a guy like Terry Holland at Virginia is my classic description of a choker.
The other guys … hey, it’s tough to win this thing. You need to have one crappy game and that’s it … ain’t no do-overs.
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next season is the year
if he can’t win the national title with next season’s team it’s time to start questioning him
Shouldn't they focus on getting him to tie his damned shoes first and foremost?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I think the Royals outfield is any team's worst nightmare.
They’ve got two LF and no RF. Sucks to be them.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
they've gotta just be on cruise control til the kids are ready
they are gunna be SCARY in a couple years if even 2/3 of their young talent pans out
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
Does that project to be the Royals everyday lineup
or are there a bunch of scrubs in there? Because if that’s it for them, wow. They are looking at 100 losses.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
I think at least Alcides, Gordon and Butler are regulars
but all their talent is hanging out at AAA and AA, right? If they really do have the best system in the majors, there has to be an end in sight to the misery.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Francouer and Cabrera are regulars for now too.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Most of them are regulars
Getz, Melky, and Francouer are all expected to be starters this year too.
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Betemit'll get a good bit of time too.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Wanna bet a mitt on it?
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wonder if Chris Getz what you did there.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Mar 8, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if he did
But I’m guessing Lucas May have.
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by nycredsfan on Mar 8, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
the royals
will hopefully take it on the (Bruce) Chen today. Ok, so that’s reaching a bit…
That lineup is nothing to Aaron Crow about.
But my guess is that Blake Wood. And that would make David Lough.
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is that the crow
KRP said he was eating?
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"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This guy thinks he's Alex Gordon over here
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Pedro would be Feliz to get in on that action
(Too much?)
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's a rough ticket
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
you gotta be kidding
Melkdud is going to be a starter?
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sweatervest is going to have a 7pm presser
Folks might want to cash in on their tressel memorabilia……sell, mortimer, sell!
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Mar 8, 2011 2:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No doubt
He’ll be there as long as he wants to be.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
as cool hand luke said
Just calling it your job don’t make it your job…
Im surprised how many violations osu receives and how little their fan base cares about them.
"the only place they lost was the scoreboard"
by Ewok on Mar 8, 2011 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
were you less of a Reds fan the past 15 years before last season???
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But he may not want to be there that much longer if the NCAA limits the program to 50 scholarships for the next 10 years
Oh wait, OSU gets away with everything, I forgot. Fun fact: They have more violations (375) since 2000 than any of the other 70 FBS programs that were required to submit records under the FOIA. No wonder Terrell Pryor chose OSU. Kid probably hasn’t paid for a single burrito since he arrived on campus.
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by nycredsfan on Mar 8, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
first comment we joint rec'd of his!!!
he’s coming around…ST xFLIP is rising quick.
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word is Ohio A&M is bringing in Tarkarnian
to help show JT how to run a cleaner program
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by obc2 on Mar 8, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're right. Tress should have just got drunk, got found by the cops and then claimed someone tried
to drug him. Oh wait, that already happened.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
IF he gets caught with a hooker, he can ask forgiveness
and … wait, that’s been done too.
Sorry, move along here.
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Hooker? So, you're saying she's a dead call girl?
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I returned the favor and rec'd your link at the bottom
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Any program worth a shit cheats, to think otherwise is foolish
That said, tOSU is treading into USC territory and might wanna watch their step.
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by jch24 on Mar 8, 2011 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nobody denies that the cheating happens
but when you get caught over & over it would be nice if there were actually some consequences
Wetzel is saying 2 games, $250K fine for Tressel
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
yet the amateur (wink wink) qb gets 5 games suspension
something tells me Tressel knew better than Pryor re: transgressions
Do The Right Thing, Jimmy…man up!
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Can't lie.
Those are some pretty weak self-sanctions.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
well....we've all had sexytime sans condom
those that do it each and every time tend to have to Pay the Price.
tis all I’m asking for tOSU.
Is the former SMU coach from the 80s available to advise Tressel on NCAA sanctions?
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I see what you did there.
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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 10, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
Rec'd and you are correct. And, nah, they're not at USC level yet. They don't have that kind of access to
Hollywood stars and blow.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 8, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Right
I am fascinated by the ongoing fan conversation regarding ethics and violations and whatnot. It’s like arguing over who’s drug den backroom cockfighting ring has the most trustworthy hookers.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
If there's a consensus on this, let me know
#herpesisforever
by ken on Mar 9, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
That may be so, but it's a little hard to stomache
when Michigan gets in trouble because the Det. Free Press, who has an ongoing grudge with UM and hated RichRod, quotes some disgruntled ex-players who say they broke practice rules (PRACTICE?!?!), and OSU has more violations than any other school over the last decade, including major questions about recruiting and illegal booster activity, and they basically get slapped on the wrist.
And I don’t buy that everybody cheats, at least not in the same way.
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Your last statement makes no sense to me, can you elaborate please?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
there are different kinds of cheating
some bend the rules & some out & out break them.
you have to operate in a gray area to be successful in college athletics & not get caught.
billy gillispie did lots of things at UK that are now illegal, but were legal at the time.
If that's true about Billy, then his teams should've won more
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Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
well
his players didn’t like him & revolted against him.
and he told one of the only two player that could score (meeks) not to shoot
also, he was having a lot of problems with alcoholism.
I wish him well at Texas Tech
if by "problems with alcoholism"
you mean that he loved the 2 for 1’s at Redmon’s (both drinks and sorostitutes), you’re absolutely correct.
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by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 9, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I still say every top 25 team has at least one player that could be ruled ineligible
There are varying degrees to be sure but it’s my belief that every team is breaking the rules whether they know it or not. (please not: breaking rules and knowing it is worse than breaking rules by accident)
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
teams know they are breaking rules
each school has MULTIPLE compliance officers, and typically each sport/team has at least one
the NCAA compliance manual is almost 1000 pages thick, and each athlete gets a copy
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 9, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Not all kids know, especially freshmen.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 10, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I think that athletes should do their research.
But I think it’s much easier to forgive an 18 year old athlete than a grown man who is supposed to be a leader and a role model.
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sure
i think coaches who are caught should be fired & the penalties should be carried with them if they wanted to go to another job.
The second part of your statement would be an awesome policy
It’s totally unfair that caches get to walk away from sanctions and coach a different college team the next year. Also, coaches should have to sit out a year if they decide to “transfer” before their contract expires.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
how about the case of eddie sutton
he gets UK on probation by having his son (who was on the team) let teammates cheat off of him. of course he did other things as well.
UK got a multi-year postseason ban & wasn’t allowed on tv for an entire season.
Eddie Sutton & his cheating kid were allowed to go to Oklahoma State & suffer no penalties.
Exactly
Kelvin Sampson comes to mind as well.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Heh
I can’t remember what it was Mizzou got in trouble for a couple of years ago, but I know our star player got arrested and called Quinn Snyder or someone from jail and was talking about illegal things on the recorded phone in the police station. It was hilariously bad.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I agree a hundred percent with that. Kiffin, Steve Fisher, Sutton, etc.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 10, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not alright with it. I'm just saying that a lot are.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 10, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Well, to put it in real, modern terms
UM gets in trouble for its coaches allowing players to practice more than they are legally allowed to. (not REQUIRING them to, just allowing them to)
OSU knowingly allows boosters to gift its players with tats, cars, clothes, etc., and turns the other way. It is essentially paying its players.
To me those are very different things.
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If you believe for one second that Denard Robinson hasn't received improper benefits, I wanna smoke what you're smokin'
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by jch24 on Mar 9, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe he has, maybe he hasn't
but it’s clearly not an endemic, accepted practice at UM like it is at OSU. It’s almost like they flaunt it around, daring the NCAA to do something about it.
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I think you are showing your bias here
Just a tad
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Look
Here’s a summary of all the fishy business at OSU in the last 8 years or so.
To me there are two plausible explanations. Either they are cheating more than everyone else, or they are dumber than everyone else. Either way, they deserve to be punished for it.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
I'm not arguing that they shouldn't be punished
My argument is that the whole conversation is ridiculous on the face of it. Here’s a story from SI last week that tangentially touches on this. The whole system, as it is, is awful. Everyone is guilty of some infraction or another because the system is arbitrary and stupid.
That, of course, doesn’t excuse anyone, whether I like that team or not, from breaking rules. I’m not arguing with that. I’m saying the rules are seriously flawed and are in need of reform. That’s the greater problem here.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
maybe he has, maybe he hasn't?
yeah, UM athletes are angels….
I hate tOSU as much as the next guy, but c’mon…. jch has it absolutely correct, all of your top tier major programs break the rules and play in that grey area and find ways to make sure they “take care” of their players
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 9, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Not that it matters terribly,
but OSU leads in “self-reported” violations. I have no idea if other schools aren’t reporting as many violations themselves or if OSU truly is just breaking that many more rules than the others.
That doesn’t exonerate OSU in any way, but it is something to note.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 9, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Most honest hookers in the cockfighting den!
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
That's the only place I go when I'm out looking for hookers.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 9, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I love it how the fans of the team caught cheating's response is always:
Hey, everyone’s cheating, why should we care?
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i don't think BYU is cheating...
warrants mentioning
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Wrong. Jim McMahon broke every "ethics violation" there was and was seen with all kinds of free
shit in Provo. None of it has been proven. But there are two things keeping him out of the BYU HofF: Official reason — He’s not a graduate; Unofficial — He didn’t uphold the honor code.
The difference between BYU now and 30 years ago? BYU’s president then (a not-so powerful member of the quarum of 12) thought that the exposure the school — and more importantly the church — was getting from the football program outweighed any ethics violations. Now BYU has a stronger leader — a general authority in the church — who recognizes that the school doesn’t need athletics to draw student interest.
BYU was as dirty as any program in the country in the 80s. My guess is thers’ still cheating going on just not as much as 30 years ago.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Scrabbles is using that as any type of defense
I agree with him that the system as a whole is flawed. I’d be willing to be that if the NCAA looked hard enough at any program that they’d find all sorts of violations. It’s the nature of the system.
Except for BYU.
I’m an OSU fan and I believe that they will still get drilled by the NCAA for this, but if you really think that OSU is just the lone school that violates and flaunts the rules, I can’t agree with that.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 9, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Mormons aren't any more law abiding than
Catholics, Methodists, or Baptists.
It was facetious.
I forgot the font again.
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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 9, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think they are the lone school at all
But I do think they are more arrogant about it than most schools. This was a pretty serious Tressel violation, and they respond by suspending him for 2 meaningless games. Add to that the general attitude and past comments by their president, and you have a picture of a school that presents itself as better than everyone, and possibly above the rules.
That doesn’t mean that other schools aren’t breaking rules, but OSU seems to consistently get caught breaking rules, yet get away with it. At the very least, if you are going to follow the crowd and break rules, man up when you get caught.
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by nycredsfan on Mar 9, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I get that
Gee is definitely a tool, and Delaney is an even bigger tool than Gee.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
It's not that I think we shouldn't care
It’s that I think we should stop caring about this and focus on the deeper,systemic issues.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Like oversigning.
That’s a pretty harsh practice.
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Mar 9, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yep. And a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
unless you're in the SEC, in which case it's practially required.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
But the HS talent (in football anyway)
is so focused in the southeast that it’s much worse in the SEC
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Yeah
You gotta hand it to the SEC. At least they don’t act like they don’t know how it works. They are honest about their dishonesty.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
what makes it worse?
it happens all across the country. i don’t see how there are degrees of bad to this
Houston Nutt. Yes, there are degrees to how bad it is.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Houston Nutt once signed 37 kids. THIRTY-SEVEN!!!!
You said: “i don’t see how there are degrees of bad to this.”
There’s oversigning by a kid or two then there’s what Nutt did. There are degrees.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, if you're one of those 37
that’s partly on you. at some point you’ve got to figure out, “hey where are they gonna get those extra 30 scholarships from?”
Yeah, blaming the student athlete. That's always the road to take.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Who said anything about "student?"
This is the SEC!
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
And if they do investigate and are lied to (Nutt) about how many
people are applying it falls back on the program.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Common, you are seriously going to blame the student for this?
That’s just silly. Also, what about the kid who commits, works in the program for two years on the 3rd or 2nd string, then as soon as he becomes a junior he’s bumped off the team for a new hot prospect?
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Exactly. No way that kid saw that coming.
they can’t figure out how to work a scout or rivals website?
Not when prospect A says he’s signing with Clemson but then does so with South Carolina.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
in your example the athlete's only fault is not playing well enough
i think scholarships should be a certain number of guaranteed years.
at least 3 in football, not including a redshirt year
Hear about Perry Mason at Baylor?
Family friend loaned him money totaling less than $1,000. The whole amount was repaid. The player was suspended immediately-
This is ridiculous. The player was completely forthcoming and was suspended immediately. The NCAA is shit. Complete shit.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
much like byu, that's the university's story
and it’s not the whole story.
these schools aren’t disclosing the whole story & their doing it to protect the reputation of the kids.
Baylor is as dirty a program as there is, and this won’t be the last thing they’re caught up in.
The way it was handled is shit.
They suspended him immediately without chance for appeal. Did that happen with Cam Newton? Does that happen with any of your big name schools? No, they get a slap on the wrist and have to suspend someone the next year.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
actually yes
cam newton was suspended, but he won his appeal.
also, jones was suspended by the ncaa & then his appeal was denied. He was allowed an appeal, but just like with newton, you didn’t hear about any of it until after the appeal ruling came in.
Mason was not allowed an appeal.
He was suspended straight off before the conference tournament.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
are you talking about jones?
it looks like i read an inaccurate tweet earlier that said the appeal was already denied.
baylor has filed an appeal, but it has not yet been heard.
Yeah
Haha, Perry Jones, NOT Perry Mason… For some reason, I thought they suspended a detective.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Lawya!
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
yep, Baylor is dirty as hell
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Agreed, 'tHan, but unfortunately scholarships
are for only one year and renewable. To Saban’s credit he does tell all his recruits that. Miles and Nutt, not so much.
Most people don’t even know the one-year deal.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
When I was at Cuse, I lived next to 3 football players my 2nd year
only 1 of them had a football scholarship, but all of them had scholarships
one was “on” the swim team
one was “on” the soccer team
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 10, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
That is nothing
I went to a D-3 school and just about every football player had an academic scholarship (from the pot reserved for people with exceptional grades and test scores), even though about 1/8th of the football team didn’t even start winter quarter.
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by justin007000 on Mar 12, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't think D3 schools had athletic scholarships
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 12, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
They don't
so they stole the academic scholarships.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 12, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
you can make the argument that it's really the same scholarship pool
D3 academic scholarship doesn’t have the same weight as a D1 academic scholarship, so since D3 schools don’t have athletic scholarships and those kids aren’t good enough to play D1 or D2 sports, why not give them a free ride to play a D3 sport?
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 12, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
What difference does being D1 or D3 have to do with an academic scholarship?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
The reason I say this is that a quick look reveals that Carnegie Mellon and John Hopkins are D3 football schools
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I see below that you've found some exceptions....
however the rule is that typically D3 schools aren’t that hard to get into academically
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 12, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hmph
/spits on the ground
/straightens Otterbein ball cap
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 12, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I almost mentioned Otterbein and Occidental too
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
U of Chicago is a D3 schools
Oberlin is NAIA.
There are many great academic D1 schools; Pitt, Duke, Northwestern, UCLA, the Ivies.
But there are a ton of shitty to mediocre D1 academic schools, Seton Hall, Toledo, Cleveland State, Youngstown State, Wright State, etc.
There are plenty of mediocre small schools academically too. Plus D1 schools are a little different, and have different pools of people applying to them. Large big time D1 athletic schools have large national advertising in their collegiate sports teams.
Look at schools like Youngstown State, Toledo, Wright State, they are pretty much degree mills.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, the problem is to focus on D1 from an athletic standpoint, and convert it to an academic standpoint
I’ll just admit that I’m probably wrong about this and move on.
I just know that non D1 athletes get “academic” scholarships to play sports at their respective sports, b/c they don’t have athletic scholarships
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
it bothers me a bit more at the D3 level
nobody even gives a shit about football at Ohio Northern. The only reason I went to football games was I was in the band. More people went to Hamilton High games than ONU games. The only students who were there were friends/girlfriends of the football players; most the crowd was townies.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well most students at ONU did receive some sort of scholarship
but tuition at ONU is also much more expensive than it is at a public school. Also we have a large percentage of alums who are wealthy pharmacists, so we do better than the average school on alumni donations.
I think a full ride at Ohio Northern (especially for a pharmacy student) is pretty similar to getting a full ride at Ohio State or Cincinnati. But a lot higher percentage of us received a decent percentage of our tuition covered than at a public school
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Not worse ethically
Worse as in way more rampant
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all good teams do it
if you are saying more because there are more good teams in the sec, then you are probably right.
however, the bad teams like UK & Vandy don’t do it. UK has even gotten a couple of players from Michigan Man Les Miles’s oversigning.
Les Miles makes an already stupid moniker look even stupider
That guy is a disaster.
What I’m saying is that the vast majority of top end FB talent in the country comes from the southeast, and naturally most of them want to go to an SEC school. So of course all of those SEC teams take as many as they can get and figure out the ramifications later. UK and Vandy don’t because that top end talent doesn’t want to go there.
And it seems like the SEC league administrators encourage it. I could be wrong, but that’s my impression.
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i don't think the administrators discourage it
“Triple S” Stupid Steve Spurrier even spoke out in favor of the practice last month.
It’s also rampant on the west coast. Pac 10 teams are major offenders
Look, the first issue with oversigning is that it creates an unethical practice
by promising some kids a scholarship and not delivering. The other issue is that it creates an unfair advantage on the field because schools that do oversign can live without bad prospects.
If School A signs CB prospect A in 2011 and the kid doesn’t pan out to what School A thought he would be but the prospect is still a good kid and does everything right, School A is stuck with CB prospect A for the remainder unless School A outright kicks him off — which isn’t good.
But if School B signs CB prospect A in 2012 and the kid doesn’t pan out to what School B thought he would be and then oversigns in 2013, it allows School B to cut CB prospect A and not have to “deal with him” during the next three years.
The point is, conferences and school’s that self sanction oversigning are forced to live with their bad recruits. Schools that oversign don’t have to.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
just like teams in conferences without a championship game have an advantage over teams in conferences that do
i don’t condone oversigning & i think the NCAA should make it illegal as a whole.
however, if it remains legal & the big 10 wants to put themselves at a competitive disadvantage, that’s on them
As we've seen with OSU/Oregon teams with no conference championship
game do not have an advantage. At all.
however, if it remains legal & the big 10 wants to put themselves at a competitive disadvantage, that’s on them
Technically it’s not legal. A school is only allowed 25 signees per class but by declaring “academic uncertainty” there’s a loophole.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
of course they have an advantage
it makes it easier for them to make the national championship game.
if they aren’t sanctioned for it, it’s legal
No, the BCS makes it easier for them to make the MNC.
Without the BCS, teams would be judged on their season performance not “What have you done lately.”
“if they aren’t sanctioned for it, it’s legal”
You and I both know that’s horseshit. Look at Newton or Clarett or Masoli.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
those are all individual cases
in the event of oversigning it’s wide spread and happening all over the country.
tOSU has an easier path to the BCS championship because they don’t have to play an extra game against Florida, LSU, Auburn or Alabama like SEC teams do.
Oversigning should be treated as an individual case.
Program-by-program. School like Miss. St. or Florida that oversigns by two or three kids aren’t the problem it’s the Ole Miss(es?), Bamas and USCs that constantly sign upwards to eight kids over that are the program.
tOSU has an easier path to the BCS championship because they don’t have to play an extra game against Florida, LSU, Auburn or Alabama like SEC teams do.
1. The BIG has a championship game now so the argument is not valid.
2. Or they get to play some mediocre team like South Carolina. Not all championship games = a tough game. Look at what the Big 12 rolled out or when a non big-4 SEC school would work its way into the CG.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
also, an extra game against South Carolina
is much tougher than filling out your schedule with Akron or Youngstown State
Right
Because Louisiana Monroe is such a heavyweight.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Please, the SEC's non-con is one of the worst
in the country. At least OSU attempts to set up one “big” out-of-conference every year. Sometimes it doesn’t happen because when you schedule 7 years in advance things might faulter.
And Michigan and Penn State (recently) have good non-cons too.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Florida plays florida state every year
tennessee has had series’s with USC & Oregon.
alabama plays penn state.
lsu plays oregon & west virginia next year.
Arkansas plays Texas A & M
I think most all of these games are better/tougher than tOSU playing against Miami.
Auburn plays nobody better than clemson.
But then they all have to play the SEC schedule & if they make it through that, they play another tough SEC game in the championship. It’s amazing they’ve been able to win 5 straight bcs championships.
Since 1999 here's OSU's top non-con games (going into the future):
99: vs. Miami in East Rutherford; vs UCLA
00: at Arizona
01: at UCLA
02: vs. Texas Tech; vs. Wazzu
03: vs. Washington; vs. NC State
04: at NC State
05: vs. Texas
06: at Texas
07: at Washington
08: at USC
09: vs. USC
10: vs. Miami
11: at Miami; vs. Colorado*
12: vs. Cal
13: at Cal
14: VA Tech
15: at VA Tech
16: at Oklahoma
17: vs. Oklahoma
18: at Tennessee
19: vs. Tennesse
20: TBA Georgia
21: TBA Georgia
*recent additiion to fill hole as Buffs make transition into Pac-12
As you can see, these games are scheduled a DECADE in advance — when OSU scheduled with Miami for 2010-2011, Butch Davis was still the coach of the Hurricanes. Some of those non-cons look better or worse now depending how programs have done in the past five seasons.
My point is, don’t act like OSU doesn’t play anyone. They try to get at least one top-tier school every season. Sometimes, by the time it’s time to play said school — they suck. Same is true with some of OSU’s “cupcakes.” NC State was terrible when they were scheduled but by the time OSU played them Phillip Rivers was there.
Yes, you’re correct the SEC has picked up its game in recent years. Which is great for the sport. Just stop throwing around Akron and UC like they’re any worse than UAB.
And don’t say that Alabama playing PSU is a big game and then shrug off OSU’s schedule — which always has Penn State — as weak.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Let's also not forget that in 2006
OSU played the #2 team in the country three times. In one season. And won twice.
And now that I’ve caused myself to remember that stupid Florida game, I will commence drinking heavily.
you said the sec scheduled weak
it’s obvious that an sec schedule is tougher than a big 10 schedule, so it means that them playing penn state means more than tOSU playing penn state.
And don’t forget, the SEC is not responsible for that “Little Sisters of the Poor Comment”
I said the SEC's non-con is weak.
Which it traditionally was up until about 2004. It’s improving but don’t act as if the SEC doesn’t have its share of crap teams on its collective schedule. Everyone does, it’s how you make money.
And it’s not “obvious” that a SEC schedule is tougher. College football like all sports has an ebb and flow. Playing in the SEC 20 years ago was a joke when Bama suffered sanctions.
And the Big Ten isn’t responsible for the “Little Sisters of the Poor” comment — one moronic asshole is. Good lord do I hate Gee. I’m glad he said that because it showed the world just how big of a shit he is. Last night’s piss-poor presser only drove that point home.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think that speaks more to
the great depth in the SEC, as well as the relative lack thereof in the Big Ten, in recent years.
And the Big Ten is starting a championship game this season.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
And people are taking
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's ironic that all the OSU fans
green’d Scrabbles’ comments about everyone cheating so who cares, then they get into a huge debate about the despicable nature of oversigning.
I thought everyone was doing it, and the system is just broken, so who cares? Why criticize?
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
by nycredsfan on Mar 9, 2011 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, but not everyone is oversigning and there's proof to that.
And I don’t think oversigning is despicable I think it’s a way for schools to not have to deal with mistakes. Think I enjoyed watching Lydell Ross or Mo Wells carry the ball? Hell no.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think you continue to misunderstand what I said
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I rec'd that comment and I am not an OSU fan
So suck it!
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I get that
but that’s a bit disingenuous. That’s like a minority getting arrested for shooting someone and saying “Forget I did this, there is inherent racism in the criminal justice system! We need to fix that!!”
While the bigger issue may be true, it doesn’t change the fact that OSU has (seemingly) broken a LOT of rules during Tressel’s tenure, and something really needs to be done.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Is it Bad Analogy Week again already?
Look, of course Tressel and the school should be punished for any and all transgressions. And if you want to argue that they get away with more than any other school, I won’t even argue that (I don’t care about that, so I’ll give you the points if you want ‘em). But that doesn’t change the fact that the whole system is stupid and dirty. So instead of throwing a flag because the lineman was holding, let’s throw a flag because the whole damn game was crooked from the start (/BAW’d).
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
But my point is that, in the meantime, until the larger issue is fixed
you still have to have some semblance of enforcement of the current rules. Which you aren’t arguing. Actually I’m not sure what you are arguing.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
My argument is:
The arguing over these ethics violations and the posturing that “my school is cleaner than yours” and the “Big Ten thinks it’s better than the other conferences” is ridiculous. Let’s focus on the real problem instead of bickering over relatively meaningless transgressions.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
And if you knew how to read
You’d have gotten that by now.
/deal with it
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Fair nuff
but for the record, I wasn’t arguing who was cleaner. I do think OSU is more arrogant and up until now has been way luckier in avoiding sanctions than other schools, though.
To me, this is the litmus test. If the NCAA accepts OSU’s self-sanctions, it is confirmation that Gee, Smith, and Tressell are all sucking every committee member’s dick on a weekly basis.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Well
Delaney knows where his bed is made. I’m not saying it’s right, but it is what it is.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
YEAAAAAHHHHHH!!!
BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS BUCKS!!!!
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
That is a joke too. Cam Newton's father got money for his son to play "amateur sports":
The rules are changed and appropriated to what is best for the NCAA. The rules are being enforced on a case-by-case basis. And we still don’t know what the NCAA will do to Tressel — they could ban him for the season.
Look, I’ll be the first to admit that Tressel is a snakey guy — I covered his program for 4 years and even took his “class” (his assitants do all the “teaching”). I don’t like him. Then again I don’t think I ever liked any big-time Div. 1 coach I’ve ever covered (though Matta makes me laugh and was a great interview).
JoePa is shady. RichRod is/was shady. John Thompson III is shady. Fuck, even womens basketball coaches are shady. Everyone is shady. The difference is that Tressel got sloppy and dumb here. He deserves everything he got. Rich Rod got what he deserved (although there were rumors there was other shit going on there that couldn’t be proven).
“you still have to have some semblance of enforcement of the current rules.”
This is a naive thought. Should it be true? Yes. Is it? Fuck and No. All I’m asking is that people wake up and realize that whatever program they root for is dirty as hell — some just get caught.
None of this excusses Tressel — who BTW got infinitely worse when Gee got there. I hated Karen Holbrook but at least she could keep shit in check, for the most part. Smith and Gee are on the money train and don’t give a shit. They know what/who butters their bread. They’re as guilty as Tress.
If anyone thinks that OSU’s attitude and above-the-law stance are unique. You’re batshit crazy. Mack Brown, Calipari, Geno Auriemma all run sacred cows. All think they’re above the law.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Fine, but as a Michigan fan
I don’t care about the arrogance of other programs. I care about the arrogance of you motherfuckers. :-)
And I hope you all go down for this :-)
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
A Michigan fan calling another fanbase arrogant is the height of irony.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
You've never met a Wal-Mart Wolverine or a Michigan fan over the age of 50.
Think either stupid arrogant (Wal-Mart) or Ivy League arrogant (over 50). They’re widley considered the most arrogant fans in the Big Ten. OSU fans are the most obnoxious. Penn State fans are the most violent andn Wisconsin fans are the rudest.
Nicest fans are either Northwestern (cause they have none!) or Minnesota. Iowa fans are great people too, until you get the drunk farmers.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
This is innacurate. If you can't stand and cheer at your own stadium
because the blue hairs don’t let you. You’re not great fans.
Hey everyone, let’s jingle keys!!!!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm talking about attitude. Not burning the town down.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
That's good. Characterize a whole fan base by 2 small subsets of it.
Seems fair to me.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
You do it with OSU fans. All the time.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Up top you typed:
I think it’s ironic that all the OSU fans green’d Scrabbles’ comments about everyone cheating so who cares, then they get into a huge debate about the despicable nature of oversigning.
Yep everyone that green’d that was totally an OSU fan. No question. Couldn’t possibly have been a Louisville fan or UC fan that just happens to agree with Scrabbles.
Good to know we all agree with Scrabs. :p
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
That's not at all the same thing.
(Which you’d understand if you had gone to Michigan :-) )
I’m not characterizing a larger group based on a smaller group. It was a passive aggressive reference to the fact that you rec’d both and then got into the oversigning argument. To me, if you have a relaxed attitude about cheating in college sports, you have to have a relaxed attitude about oversigning too. Teams are getting away with both, both often hurt students’ lives, so why not just accept that everyone does it? And if everyone doesn’t, it’s their own fault.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
No, you did characterize "all the OSU fans" as having the same subset of beliefs.
I know plenty of OSU fans that disagree with me and Charlie.
Your missing Charlie’s point. Oversigning, cheating, all of it is the exact same thing. We’re not condoning any of it. And we don’t have a relaxed attitude toward it. It’s the fact that the organization (NCAA) that sets the rules is terribly inconsistent and broken. Oversigning is just another form of cheating. Some schools do it some don’t — just like some schools choose to hide e-mails from investigators. It’s all the same thing and it’s all wrong.
It’s the idea that somehow OSU or Duke or someone else gets away with stuff more often than anyone else. If you get sloppy you’ll get caught. It’s that simple.
None of it is right and we don’t defend any of it. At the same time to act as if one program is worse than the other is silly — they all cheat. They just do it differently and some get caught. Or, like ’tHan said up top, some do shady things that have yet to be formally punishable.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, whatever.
I’m tired of arguing about it. At the end of the day, what Tressel did usually gets a coach fired, gets the season’s wins vacated, and loses the program scholarships for a while.
Clearly he ain’t getting fired (which is my real problem. OSU isn’t dirtier than anyone else, but they certainly seem to think they are above the rules.)
If NCAA doesn’t drop the hammer on the program it’ll be ridiculous.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
how can people not see that tOSU does get away with it?
Bruce Pearl did less than what tressel did & the SEC suspended him for half the SEC season. The Big10 just looks the other way with no further suspension for tressel.
The fact is tressel knew the players should be ineligible, didn’t report it. He knowingly played the whole season with ineligible players. He finally got caught, and instead of admitting it, he continued to lie & even worked out a deal to allow the players to play in the bowl game. That alone is ridiculous & enough to show tOSU gets preferential treatment.
Anything short of Tressel getting fired, sanctioned by the NCAA & tOSU forfeiting all of last season is a crime against all other NCAA schools.
I'm not disagreeing with that
Jim Delaney is a super-powerful guy in the NCAA, and he won’t let anything terribly bad happen to his prize pig.
Of course that sucks. But instead of bemoaning the fact that OSU gets preferential treatment or Tressel gets to play above the rules, let’s first acknowledge the fact that the rules are stupid and arbitrary.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I have nothing to add here, except that this thread is why I only follow pro sports
Give me the commercial realism of professionals any day over the fiction of amateur athletics.
by ken on Mar 9, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
This
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I still say he's going to get squashed. Just like O'Brien.
The NCAA looks out for its own interest. Had Auburn been out of contention for the MNC and Newton not a Heisman contender, Auburn would have gotten creamed.
Tressel and OSU are going to get punished (self sanctioning is horse shit) and Auburn and Oregon will get the boom too. (None as bad as USC, I think) So don’t act like this is a closed case. Tressel deserves a harsher penalty. He’ll get it. When and what I don’t know.
Ohio State has been hit with sanctions before. They’re not “above the law.” It’s the fact that the busted ass NCAA works so damn slowly most people forget about it by the time the sanctions are announced. Also the fact that forfeiting a season never does shit — we all know what happened during those “vacated wins”.
Derrick Rose still made the Final Four in 2008 just like Michael Redd made it in 1999. I can watch both those games if I want to. Vacating wins and seasons is dumb. What the NCAA needs to do is actually attack the coaches themselves.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I like turtles.
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 10, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
Hah!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 10, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
That is good!
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 9, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Also, the main reason UM fans are arrogant is because
it has so much better academics than any of the other Big 10 schools. (save maybe Northwestern)
And this is coming from someone who didn’t go to any Big 10 school. I can objectively say that within academia, Michigan is considered the elite of the Big 10, which is, in turn, considered the elite of the country outside of Ivy League.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
And while true (to a point -- Michingan's journo program is nonexistant for instance)
it’s why people hate them and especially the fans of the school that didn’t go there. Claiming academic supremacy for a program you didn’t go to is just funny,
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not claiming it as any sort of badge of honor
and I’m not saying it makes anyone better than anyone else.
I’m just saying it’s basically a fact, and partly explains the arrogance of its graduates and the ridiculous “Michigan Man” label.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
You might not be. Tell that to the 100,000 others that do.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
i didn't go to harvard
but i’m pretty confident that it’s a more highly regarded education than Ohio State.
why would you have to go to a school to know it’s better thought of than another school?
Yet, you don't cheer for Harvard and go blabbing about its education.
That’s what a lot of non-Michigan alums are like.
“Well, OSU is an inferior school!”
Really? Okay, well go back to Eastern Michigan and talk about it there. It’s arrogant and silly and stupid.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
It's days like this that I wish I was in ST tweeting the games...
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
It's days that end in y that I wish I was in ST tweeting the games...
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Y?
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Hu?
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Y ask Y?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
try bud dry?

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I know it's just ST
but the Royals always give me pause, it seems like they have generated quite a few bad memories for me over the past couple of years
Reds rule
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
"Reds Rule #1 - You must be this tall to ride the Nasty Hook"
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
This tall?

Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 8, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It says this on Bronson's belt buckle.
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 8, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Quieres ver un hook nastamente?
Ben Dover, senor.

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The ball looks tiny in his hands
This reminds me of that dream I had that made me really uncomfortable when I woke up.
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Mar 8, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Gameday has the KC radio feed! YEA!!!!!!!!!!
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
It does?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm listening now, but I have GameDay Audio.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Is it a feed of the Royal's station or somekind of webcast?
The Royals affiliate wasn’t listed as carrying the game.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
It's a commerical-free broadcast via MLB.com, methinks.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
The Reds don't seem to have that offered for ST
they’ve only got WLW simulcasts. These are KC guys calling the game though right?
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
OK, I've got it on a demo
I guess this is MLB PBP guy right? Weird that the Royals list this on their site and the Reds don’t.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Royals guy.. that's why
I wish the Reds would do these webcasts.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Apparently Marty is going to "drop by"
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oldmanballs alert!
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Stubbs in to lead off the game. He wears his socks low.
No wind today, and a balmy 65 degrees at game time.
He wears #6, most famously worn by the late, great Bo Diaz.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Stubbs works a full count...then he swings at a ball inside and lines a hit to LF!
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Renteria singles, Stubbs to third.
Renteria’s last hit of the year while batting second.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Stubbs only to 2nd per Gameday.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Wind blowing slowly out to the RF wall, which is 350 down the line.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Here is some imagery
Now this isn’t the real RF wall in real life, but it’s the one from the book I wrote, called “Denise Does the Kitchen Staff.”

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That WOULD explain the multiple rakes.
And the oh-so-subtle WOOD reference.
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
YOu do realize ... this is the RF wall at Goodyear
where our heroes lay waste to invading mongrel whores … er …
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I am still not fully convinced that you're anything more than a manifestation of Madville's imagination
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
by jch24 on Mar 8, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
'ay ... y'all set 'em up ....
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too soon
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
makes me proud
Votto saving his hits for the regular season when they count
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
Billy Buckner 2011
beast or bust?
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
or somewhere in between?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Why can't it be both?

"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
by jch24 on Mar 8, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
survey says...?
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
don't drink the koolaid
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
Gomestown Massacre
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
This is correct
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
This is all of a sudden going pretty crappily for Wood
2.1 IP: 2 BB, 5 H (1 HR), 2 K
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:57 PM EST reply actions
make that 3 IP
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
He and Leake can drive to Louisville together
Road trip!
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Mar 8, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
No chance of that
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
He just needs to work a bit on location
Our Slyde projector shows what’s going wrong for the lefty.

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Do you have a library of photos on your computer?
Because you’ve used this one at least 3 times in the last week.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
twice, so stand corrected.
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I don't think he does... it's just THAT funny.
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
by BK on Mar 8, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well shit, there goes his opening day start
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Ramon cuts down Failcour trying to steal!
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Bill Veeck
Stubbs 3-run homer!!!!!!!
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck
Stubb-Hubb HR
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 4:11 PM EST reply actions
I just got a Stubb Chubb!
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Bill Veeck
To the Pubb!
A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Mar 8, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Crap, HLM will want to trade him while he has value.
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So did Jamie Ramsey
Funblast! Stubbs!
by FordhamRam on Mar 8, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sam Lecure in to pitch for the good guys...
The true harbinger of spring is not crocuses or swallows returning to Capistrano, but the sound of the bat on the ball.
Bill Veeck

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty.
by GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Mar 8, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions
"Ladies and Gentlemen....starting in Left Field...."
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
What is Travis Wood's ERA right now? :)
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
3.60
I’ll take that over Gomes’ .067 AVG.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
if Gomes isn't in the lineup
then we won’t have any production. That’s what Dusty says anyways
Is anyone in the least bit surprised?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
KC has pitch by pitch Gameday
But the Reds don’t?
That ain’t right.
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sMarty was in the booth an inning ago.
Then things improved this inning.
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
update, score, inning, describe chicks in 3rd row
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So there's a Royals stringer, but not a Reds?
You can demo the audio on the Royals website, unless that’s expired.
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 8, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
Maybe it has to do with the technology available at each ballpark.
But it looks like whether Gameday has pitch by pitch info depends on the ballpark. Seattle and KC have it, the Reds don’t.
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I guess if we followed the (urp) Indians, we would maybe know for sure.
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actually
I checked, and amazingly, Cleveland doesn’t have pitch by pitch info, either.
However, Seattle’s home games do.
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they use the same ballpark, so you may have spotted a clue.
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I'm getting a raging clue right now.

Don't do crack, drink chocolate milk and enjoy every moment.
by -ManBearPig on Mar 9, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAH!
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 9, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Is Marty still there?
Because I can whip up an Adam From Milwaukee email right quick.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Is it time to write off Alex Gordon as a disappointment that hurts your heart?
Do you think the Reds will get ANY production out of LF?
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
Is it time to write off Alex Gordon as a disappointment that hurts your heart?
- PaTRICK YU
They read em both, but not the “hurt your heart” part.
Low-end trolling success!
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
Someone send this in:
How do you keep track of players’ names during the season? I often have trouble with the spellings! :)
- John Fey
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 8, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lucky for us Grudzilanek retired.
Gruzil
Grizzleanek
Grubzin
oh fiddle.
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I loved hearing Harry Caray stumbling over that one, F.P. Santangelo, and Archi Cianfrocco.
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
I recall the days Harry did the White Sox
… he would stumble over “Smith” after the 5th inning.
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Shame he wasn't around long enough for Fukudome.
by FordhamRam on Mar 8, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey, seriously ...
… if we could get Fuk You Do Me in a deal, would you take it?
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Nope
The only place he’d be an upgrade would be at LF and he’s not really worth it to me.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
He's a good fielder if he's in LF.
Maybe not enough of a masher for Dusty’s taste.
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One of my favorite things ever
was when he’d say “Chuck McElroy”.
Press spacebar to die!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 8, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Justin's boy
closes it out.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Don't expect Greinke to be the Opening Day starter.
Dude just injured himself playing basketball. He’s slated to miss three starts.
/aaronboone'd
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Mar 8, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I think this is the first time.
by FordhamRam on Mar 8, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Greinke playing basketball...
He was playing alone, wasn’t he? You can’t convince me that he was playing alongside other guys.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Mar 8, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
man
I’d be seriously pissed off if he was my player.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
/AaronBoone'd
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Rumor is Gomes was singing "Greinke's hurt! Greinke's hurt!"
Or possibly singing the theme from St. Elmo’s Fire.
by ken on Mar 8, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
i reported that earlier
cheaters may prosper, but I’m always glad when tOSU loses!!!
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
Not that you noticed but March 9
tomorrow, will mark the 42nd anniversary of the most famous panty raid in the history of the University of Evansville.
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can i get a hot tub?!?
Buy RED: My Uncensored Life in Rock by Sammy Hagar, today
by obc2 on Mar 8, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still have the key that unlocked the women's dorm
They probably changed the locks, though.
Damned key also opened the administration building, the union, and the president’s residence. Never went in there, though.
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This kid from South Florida is lighting up Villanova, wow
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
We need a tOSU Violations/conference tournament/You Don't Know Jack thread
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
just posted a thread
word is your internet connection is faster than your opponents leading to an unfair competitive advantage.
#jchcheatsliketressel
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People look for excuses when they lose
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Less surprising than Tressel's two game suspension - South Florida has attractive cheerleaders
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I would hope so....plenty of talent to choose from
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Madville may be able to help with that one.
I just have the nude shots.
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Becca Mann?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Oh that one...she was a while ago
And it’s Becca Manns
Also – Courtney Simpson
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
Wood to AAA Maloney for the rotation!
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
Andrew Means is one guy.
Who I think will look like a prospect in Bakersfield, offering hope, but little else.




































