Scouting Reds Pitchers: Travis Wood
The last pitcher that I think will make the rotation is Travis Wood. The big surprise last spring was that Wood lost the competition for the #5 spot in the rotation to Mike Leake. But he did what he could do: went down to Louisville, pitched very well, and then pitched superbly when he was called up mid-season. Let's see what he throws:
Pitches
Why doesn't MLBAM's pitch algorithm just work? I know it's a difficult task, but this is pretty bad: there are numerous, obvious problems in the classification of pitches once again.
Let's start at the bottom-left and move up. At the very bottom you see his curveballs. At least some of them are a spiked curve as opposed to the traditional grip, based on the photo here.
Moving up you see sliders (initially correctly classified), and then you move into Wood' cutter territory. Wood learned his cutter from Cliff Lee, with whom he works out in the offseason, I think a good number of Wood's cutters are misclassified as sliders--essentially everything with a vertical movement over -16 inches or so in this plot. I was initially skeptical that he even threw a slider, but Harry Pavalis seems to think that he does, Wood says he does, and that lower cloud of sliders does seem distinct enough to support the idea. The grip on a typical slider is basically indistinguishable from a typical cutter--the difference is supposedly in how you twist your wrist as you throw the slider. You can see that grip in the picture of Wood above.
To the right of the cutters are his four-seam fastballs, though I again think that some of those pitches might actually be misclassified cutters--especially those with negative horizontal movement. Amongst the four-seamers, and especially as you move into the change-up area, you start to see a number of pitches identified as two-seam fastballs (sinkers). The ones down in the change-up area (denoted with brackets) are clearly misclassified. And some of the ones denoted as change-ups but that are above the brackets are probably also incorrectly classified. I haven't found photos of him using the grip (maybe this??), but he does apparently throw a two-seamer (at least as of 2009). I'd wager that a good number of the "four-seamers" on the far-right of the four seam cloud are actually two-seamers/sinkers.
In short, the pitch classification by MLBGameday is a mess. Maybe someday I'll sit down with all of his pitches from 2010 and try to reclassify them by hand...but today is not that day.
Velocity
Wood doesn't throw particularly hard, but his fastball can edge up toward 94-95 at times, while averaging just shy of 90 mph. His cutter is delivered in the high-80's (and you can see all of those green dots in the fastball cluster--I'd bet money that those are all cutters).
His change-up, which when he was drafted was considered one of his best pitches (before the development of his cutter), leaves his hand in the high-79's, which means there's often a 10+ mph difference between the two pitches. I don't know about deception and such, but that velocity difference is on par with what Volquez does with his change-up.
Outcomes
With the massive caveat that the data are almost certainly flawed because the pitch classifications are so badly off....
| Pitch | Use% | Strike% | GB% | Whiff% | LgWhiff% |
| Four Seamer | 63% | 68% | 24% | 6% | 6% |
| Two Seamer | 6% | 52% | 40% | 7% | 9% |
| Cutter | 9% | 66% | 34% | 14% | 9% |
| Slider | 8% | 65% | 55% | 16% | 13% |
| Change-Up | 8% | 64% | 37% | 12% | 12% |
| Curve | 6% | 53% | 47% | 3% | 10% |
Given all of the misclassified cutters, I'd guess that he actually throws 15-20% cutters (some are grouped with sliders some with four-seam fastballs). I swear I've watched games where he threw nothing cutters and fastballs (to my totally incompetent eye, anyway). Anyway, in terms of those pitches that are actually classified here as cutters, it looks like an outstanding pitch, with well above-average swing-and-miss rates. Depending on how the breakdown goes with sliders vs. cutters, it may actually induce ground balls at a good rate as well. Some of the pitches in the slider group certainly do!
His change-up also looks to be pretty good. There is classification trouble here, but on the surface it looks to get a decent number of whiffs--although not as many ground balls as some other change-ups I've seen. The curve ball looks not so good--very low whiff rate, and it's also a pitch that he doesn't seem to get over the plate very often (though perhaps that's by design--hard to know). He throws it rarely, however, so it may work as a "show me" pitch.
His four-seamer, on the other hand, does not look as good. If there's one concern I have for Wood performance-wise from looking at his peripherals, it's his ground ball rate, which was a measley 30.5% last year. He managed to get by with a well below-average 6% HR/FB rate last year, but that number may be pretty tough to repeat--especially pitching in GABP. And the problem may well be his fastball, which induced ground balls just 24% of the time last year. One thing we may see, if Wood starts to get lit up with the long ball, is that he'll start throwing his other pitches more: 63% fastballs, if accurate, is pretty high for someone with excellent secondary pitches. That hopefully should increase the number of grounders that he gets. With the success that he had last year, however, it's hard to argue that he should change his approach until something happens.
Aside from the curve balls, Wood appears to have excellent command of all of his pitches, which matches his history of excellent (<3 bb/9) walk rates over the last two years of his career.
Approach
| vs. LHB | Opening Pitch | Two Strikes | Full Count | Behind |
| Four Seamer | 60% | 57% | 78% | 67% |
| Two Seamer | 1% | |||
| Cutter | 12% | 11% | ||
| Slider | 19% | 30% | 22% | |
| Change-Up | 1% | |||
| Curve | 5% | 5% |
Starting with LHB's this time because that's his same-handed side. Against lefties, throughout the count, Wood mostly used just two pitches: fastball and cutter (and maybe some sliders). He did mix in a curve ball to start a hitter or try to put one away (maybe a "wasted" pitch?), but for the most part it's cutter or fastball. His incidence of "sliders" jumps way up with two strikes, and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of those really are sliders--but I don't have a good way to sort that out right now.
In 3-0 counts (Behind), he threw nothing but fastballs. The other 33% were intentional balls.
| vs. RHB | Opening Pitch | Two Strikes | Full Count | Behind |
| Four Seamer | 61% | 69% | 68% | 77% |
| Two Seamer | 6% | 6% | 6% | |
| Cutter | 5% | 14% | 10% | |
| Slider | 3% | 5% | 7% | |
| Change-Up | 11% | 4% | 7% | 15% |
| Curve | 12% | 3% | 2% |
Against righties he does break out the change-up with decent frequency. That's especially true when starting a batter, or (surprisingly) when in a 3-0 count on a hitter. Apparently, he does feel like he can control it. I'm a bit surprised to see that he doesn't use it more often in two-strike situations, but there he again goes back to his cutter, which should move in on the hands of a right-handed batter.
Conclusions
Travis Wood became one of my favorite Reds pitchers last season. I have a thing for cutters. His ability to use it to great effect against lefties, as well as righties, along with the quality change-up, makes him a great choice for the rotation. Teams like to include a left-hander in the rotation, which makes me thing he's likely to make the cut. I don't know if he can maintain a mid-3's ERA given his high fly ball rate, but he also may be able to make adjustments to get there. I'm looking forward to watching him pitch this year.
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Travis Wood should be no lower than the 4th starter on this team
He’s my favorite of the young pitchers.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71
Travis Wood should absolutely make the rotation this year
I like Mike Leake a lot, but what we saw from Wood was excellent. Nobody else on the team took a perfect game into the 9th against the Phillies.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
I like Wood a lot
But the fly ball rate worries me. He will probably need to make an adjustment this year to get that under control. Last year it was in Eric Milton territory, 30.5%.
-j
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Agreed.
If that fly ball rate stays the same, he could easily become a 4.50 ERA pitcher, which is still fine, but I doubt there’d be as many people on here fellating him if that was the case.
Still, one thing I think we’ll see this year is a lot more use of the changeup and cutter. Given how much hype his change had when he was a prospect, I was really surprised he didn’t use it more as a Red. I think he’ll use it more this year, as well as the cutter. If so, since those both get a lot more groundballs, he should be fine.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Yeah, I guess...
…if you’re having the kind of success he was having, there’s not much reason to use the change-up. But maybe he’ll do so.
-j
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True, but
if it is his best pitch, the assumption would be that he was using it a lot in the minors. For him to suddenly abandon it in the majors seems odd, regardless of results.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
I talked to Doug Dirt about this last year
He said that once Wood found the cutter, his usage of the change-up declined substantially. So it’s not just something that’s happened in the majors. The cutter is a great pitch for him, but he may find he needs to use the change-up to be successful this year. Something to watch.
-j
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That makes sense
But the changeup is known as a pitch with reverse platoon splits, so it makes sense that he never throws it to lefties, but I’d expect to see it more against righties. The fact that he uses the cutter as well as averageish FB and CU so much is interesting. I’d expect to see the change percentage against righties to be a lot higher this year.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
i for one am appalled at all the fellating of wood.
by 'tHan on Mar 3, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Prude
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 3, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
he's certainly better than obc's boy, Arroyo
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 3, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Highlifeman61?
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
can't you just let your boyfriends stand up for themselves?
I do plenty of fucking things that just offend you, can’t you just call me out on the those goddamn things.
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
Wow, just wow.
I mean, I like you ‘tHan, I really do. See? I even took the time to spell your name correctly, puncuation and capitalization and all. And we’ve become twitter buddies, and I think you are a genuinely funny dude and I enjoy conversing with you.
But seriously, “antagonizing helps no one”? This has to be the biggest pot calling the kettle black moment in the history of the internet. I know you are just giving justin shit, and lord knows, he deserves all the shit he gets, but damn. “antagonizing helps no one.” And how…..
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
and this is another pot calling the kettle black moments
and your sense of humor is just North of ’nukkah’s
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 3, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
really?
I didn’t know you were BK’s errand boy
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 3, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed-there are definitely adjustments that need to be made
But overall, he’s shown a lot of potential to be a solid lefty starter, which is something the Reds haven’t had in a long time. I’m excited by this.
Plus, his name allows for all sorts of puns and innuendos, which just makes life a little more fun ’round here. Hee hee hee, Wood.
Son, when you participate in sporting events, it's not whether you win or lose: it's how drunk you get. ~Homer Simpson
by Hawkeyegirl96 on Mar 3, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
good point
Need to make up for the loss of Coutlangus and Dick Pole.
Though “Leake” certainly has potential, too.
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Sigh. I miss Dick Pole
I always wondered how the announcers said his name without snickering, because Lord knows I cannot.
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by Hawkeyegirl96 on Mar 3, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I always remember him putting in "darn"
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
I distinctly remember him saying "best darn sports show" a couple times
This would’ve been a long time ago. Maybe early 2000s
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
i don't remember the "darn"
but he was frickin nuts anyway.
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
This is true.
There’s been instances of “best darn sports show”, but the vast majority of the time it was “best sports show period”.
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by BK on Mar 3, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't a very punny name.
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Thread HIJACK!
Tucker Barnhart follows Dave Matthews Band on twitter
Now back to regularly scheduled programming.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
And...
This is what happens when you cross BF and Mads.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I follwed the Tuckster for about 3 hours.
That was all I could handle. Following athletes on twitter is highly overrated. There’s a reason they aren’t Rhodes scholars.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
Ah, I don't mind him. He's certainly no BP.
Just seems like a guy excited to be living the dream.
Also… Brandon Davies? Kicked out of school for getting a girl pregnant? Good-bye, BYU basketball. Hopefully, someone else’ll give the kid a shot.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
And I mean this with all respect: Fucking silly Mormons.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Mar 3, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

Don't do crack, drink chocolate milk and enjoy every moment.
by -ManBearPig on Mar 3, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
All indications are he'll be able to rejoin the team next year
He wasn’t kicked out of the school, he’s just on probation.
18 years of probation?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Logan Morrison is probably my favorite non-Sam LeCure twitathlete
He tweets a ton, but you get the sense that he’s a pretty sincere guy, and fairly clever. Really open to interacting with the fans too.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I followed him for a while last year
Trying to get him to use the fantasy focus theme song (if you don’t know what I mean…don’t ask). But I unfollowed. Too much uninteresting stuff.
I do follow Lecure, Matt Klinker, Corky Miller, and Matt Maloney. That’s about it, though. I unfollowed BP within about 12 hours.
-j
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if wood doesn't make this rotation it will be a travisty
by GrooveLeg on Mar 3, 2011 11:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there
But did you have to?
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
training and working out
with Cliff Lee doesn’t hurt, but being a lefty should seal his spot
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
I like Wood, mainly because he's left handed
But how much better is he than Leake at this point? Wood’s 17 starts at the ML level and Mike Leake’s first 17 starts at the ML level:
Leake: 6-1, 109.2 IP, 3.53 ERA, 1.40 WHIP, 12 HR allowed
Wood: 5-4, 102.2 IP, 3.51 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 9 HR allowed
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
pretty big difference in WHIP
Does that mean Leake walks a lot more?
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Leake walked 12 (!) in his first two starts if memory serves, inflating his whip
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
And as I recall
He didn’t get any breaks from the plate umps in those two games.
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
lonely dom'd
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by nycredsfan on Mar 3, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that it's close
but I think the fact that Wood has more pro seasons and more innings under his belt gives him a big edge. He seems more prepared to pitch a whole season and stay strong.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
They're pretty close by xFIP too
Wood: 4.17
Leake: 4.31
Leake gets a bonus because of the Reds’ infield defense and his ground ball rate, which makes his skills play up a bit more. So yeah, it’s probably a toss-up. I tend to think that Leake might find the time in the minors useful to work on some stuff, but I’m not real upset either way. As a tiebreaker, the fact that he’s left-handed gives Wood the edge IMHO. Nice to include a lefty in the rotation.
-j
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As a tiebreaker, I'd consider Leake's bat
Though now that I’m looking back at his numbers, I noticed a .485 BABIP (!).
Also, Wood impressed me with that triple at Citi.
by ken on Mar 3, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
To me the tiebreaker is durability
Leake still hasn’t lasted a whole season as a pro, and I can see him being protected better in AAA, at least to start the year. Then when he is needed later in the year, he’ll hopefully still be strong.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
There's also the business tiebreaker of service time
Since Leake was on the big league roster for all of last year.
We have a lot of tiebreakers.
by ken on Mar 3, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I really like that Leake came in "bulked up" this year
I think he understood that his body wore down and took steps to prevent it.
Of course if we just go ahead and make Homer the closer this problem solves itself. :)
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
I don't care how bulked up he is.
He’s never thrown more than 130 some innings in a year. No way he can make it the whole year, nor should he at this point.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
I think he could throw 160-170 innings this year
if he can find his first half magic, he threw a lot of innings without a lot of pitches.
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
Yeah.
I wouldn’t extend him too much beyond that. That also brings up another question though. Should he be throwing those innings at the major league or minor league level? I think that’s one thing where Leake has a slight edge over Wood. If they have a set number for Leake, and a higher number from Wood, they might want Leake to start at the major league level to get his innings in. Hopefully it makes some sense. For what it’s worth, I think it’s bad to base the decision on that, and I’d rather see Wood at this point.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I really won't have a problem with whomever they pick
they are pretty even.
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
But if he starts in MLB, the tempation is to let him keep throwing innings
whereas in AAA they can pull him after 5 regardless. It’s much, much easier to keep innings down in AAA than in the bigs.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
workload weren't really a problem last year
how many times did his pitch count get out of hand? If anything I think too much rest fucked with Leake.
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FWIW
Wood’s HR rates were pretty good in the minors (one every 13 innings or so) and his GO/AO were much closer to 1.0 the last three years in the minors. I know neither of those are precise measures, but I don’t think Wood is the extreme flyball pitcher he appeared to be last season. I think we’ll see his HR/FB go up, but I think we’ll also see his flyball rate go down.
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yabbut
Leake hit the wall, whereas Wood had a great full year last year
by Highlifeman21 on Mar 3, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
But Leake faced more teams multiple times than Wood
and Leake’s ERA really shot up after he was moved to the ’pen.
Wood was not good over a full MLB season last year, because he came up in July.
"If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're gonna get selfish ignorant leaders."-George Carlin
Jamie Ramsey
says it’s owner’s weekend, so the A-team is taking the field.
Stubbs, Phillips, Votto, Rolen, Bruce, Gomes, Renteria (DH), Hanigan, Janish.
Big change from yesterday.
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Renteria is still in though...
would’ve loved to see a Hermida or Gomes at DH (with Lewis in LF), or even Heisey
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
How many 3-0 counts did he get into last year?
3? I can’t imagine there’s much of a reason to concern ourselves with his 3-0 pitch selection.
by Brian B on Mar 3, 2011 1:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
offering something positive, as always!
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
I'd say it's quite positive for Travis Wood!
by Brian B on Mar 3, 2011 2:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough.
My spreadsheet is set up to spit that count out for the tables. I just find it useful to see what a pitcher throws when they’re desperate for a strike.
-j
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But yeah, maybe it doesn't mean much in his case.
::shrug::
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That number is absolutely ridiculous.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
And for good reason
Seems someone at Beyond The Box Score found some inconsistencies.
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Way to exaggerate
he had 15. Sheesh. :)
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I honestly had no idea and was just asking.
I saw this – “he threw nothing but fastballs. The other 33% were intentional balls” – and thought, wow 33% seems like a pretty round number (1/3). And then I figured that there couldn’t be many 3-0 counts for a guy who pitched 1/2 a season. Still, he intentionally walked 5 guys in half a season? That seems like a lot, doesn’t it?
Now that you mention it...
Yeah, kind of. Especially since you usually see IBB’s later in the game (nothing to back that up).
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Wood only had one IBB last season.
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Now I see what you are talking about
I’m guessing he only had 3 counts that went 3-0 versus a lefty. Two of them he threw fastballs. The other he intentionally walked the batter.
I’m not sure how the math works on the RHB side though. Since, according to BBRef, he had 15 total 3-0 counts.
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