Cactus League Game 16: Reds vs. Angels
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 13, 2011 3:22 PM EDT
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PrintI wish I had more time to meditate on this game, but life intervened. I'm hoping to see Travis Wood turn in a good performance so that there can be no ambiguity about his spot in the rotation. The Cactus League schedule is packed, with only one off-day scheduled the rest of the way. And every game from now on is carried on WLW.
Go Reds!
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As I remember from the last game against them, Angels are much slower on the draw with the team lineups
"OVERCHARGE, v. To ask a higher price than you can get." -Ambrose Bierce
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Mar 13, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
teh Fay
reports that Dusty has hinted that Heisey has made the roster.
Dusty Baker made it sound like Chris Heisey has the team basically made over Fred Lewis and/or Jeremy Hermida as an extra outfielder.
"He was here before," Baker said. "I know what Heisey can do. I’m trying to use the past and the present to see what the other guys can do. Plus, Heisey can pinch-hit well and we need somebody right-handed, so we don’t have all left-hander like we had a few years ago. Heisey can run. You can put him late for defense. He’s a good outfielder. Out of guys returning from last year, he’s the only guy who play center field, other than Stubbs."
The center field factor is big one. Baker likes to have a true center fielder on the roster. He has not played Lewis there at all.
Dusty doesn’t think Sap is ready for prime time yet.
And cuts are probably coming tomorrow.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Ready or not, you pretty much had to know he was a numbers casualty
The good thing is he’ll be sitting in AAA and would be a first callup if an outfielder went down.
by rorschach1979 on Mar 13, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Should have read up thread.
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
so is it between Lewis and Hermida for the 5th spot?
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
Lewis is on the 40-man, no?
I’d say that decides it.
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
that’s why I thought the wording was weird. I don’t think there was really ever a fight for 5th outfielder.
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
yeah, the wording is strange
I suppose it’s possible they will go with only four OFers, but if they go with five, Heisey might make it along with Lewis, not instead of.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Looks like Heisey's a lock.
Via the Fya.
So, that leaves Lewis in too and the outfield is a done deal.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
Meaning Lewis won't really be in Center except in case of emergency.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
Bruice Juice!
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
Greatest Fay Troll of the Season
RT @Redacted Which Red has the best sense of direction?//54-way tie for 1st. Never seen any of them run toward third after hitting the ball
was it him? That's awesome!
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
He really has run with it...
I’m amazed at how often Fay responds to him.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs.
Does Boobs have an extra ax to grind, because he is a journalist and more competent than Fay but Fay has the dream job?
Not that I blame Boobs? Seeing less competent people in jobs your are qualified for should piss you off.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This goes a fair way towards explaining the bad mood I've been in recently
by Brendanukkah on Mar 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
bad economies gotta be really tough on museums
in that people will not go to them to save money, they will receive less in donations, and the government is trying to cut spending.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
the second question mark shouldn't be there
it is a statement not me trying to see how i feel.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Travis Wood is pitching a great game. But, the Angels are fielding a crap team.
I see that his old ways of getting people to fly out to right are working.
Gomes sure has been fantastically awful this Spring. Frazier too. At least Coz, Valaika, Negron, Mesoraco have been hitting.
That's what I was hoping the last couple of years..
How long can he be an “affordable” veteran before the Reds realize why?
But he's doing it with attitude!
/ramsey’d
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
It's 60 degrees and sunny out, I just finished my taxes, and the Reds have tied this game.
Hoy es un buen dia!
by the finest muffins on Mar 13, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
this is 'merica, honey
we try to use English here.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And don't call me "honey," Marge.
by the finest muffins on Mar 13, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the whole thing was meant to be inoffensively offensive
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Give it a go then Justin.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Split, Croatia
it rained today, but there’s still the Adriatic and granite mountains.
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
It seems like the granite mountains would look more atmospheric in the rain
by Brendanukkah on Mar 13, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
its a matter of opinion, I suppose.
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
Really?
That seems long. And increases the chances of one half of Yasarasco getting traded. And Grandal can’t be traded til the summertime…
by Brendanukkah on Mar 13, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This will definitely soften the blow of the Yonder/Mesoraco for Hanley deal that's going to happen this summer
"Aroldis Chapman is a seven course meal followed by four hours of sex on the table with a nymphomaniac model heiress who owns her own brewery." - jch24
I was about to tweet this
I really, really wonder if they are thinking about trading him. The Red Sox are actively looking for a catcher, and it’s possible Mesoraco has impressed them enough that they are willing to deal Hanigan. I’d rather they deal Hernandez, but I bet Hanigan is much more tradeable right now.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
*of course, I meant post this.
Also, the point of signing him first is that he’ll maybe have more trade value as a guy who is very cheap for the next 4 years. Is this his last pre-arb year?
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
i don't really see how that makes me him more tradeable.
He has yet to play 100 games in a season, and he is under control for the next 3 years, and probably won’t make more than this.
Can we get Jon Lester?
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
He hits arb next year.
So, 500K or so of that 4million is this year’s minimum salary.
So he makes 3.5 million total for 2 arb years. Given his good defense and crazy high OBP, combined with what busted ass crappy catchers have been getting lately, that’s really really cheap.
Maybe they just want to get some cost control and plan on keeping him. Who knows….
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
i would get cost control
and i don’t really have a problem with this for the Reds. But i don’t know if it makes him more tradeable.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what the trading team is looking for.
But generally speaking, cost certainty is always a good thing. He was a 2.4 bWAR player last year. Another year like that this year and he’ll cost way more than $3.5m over his first 2 arb years.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
And nevermind.
Jocketty tells Fay that they have said no when teams ask about their catchers. Of course, that could just be Jocketty lying to Fay like normal.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
does he mean young catchers, or all catchers?
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Fay tweet:
More on catching: Jocketty says clubs have called about catching. “We’ve said no. We don’t want to give up our surplus.” #reds
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
the answer should never be "no"
you ask for an offer. Then you laugh. Then you wait for a call back when they get more desperate. And be prepared to laugh again. But don’t say ’no."
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
I'm sure the answer isn't no, period.
Jocketty never tells Fay the whole truth.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
neither does fays wife.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would he bother.
Fay would just fuck it up and blame Brandon Phillips.
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Or maybe he'd blame Braindon Philups.
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 13, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Hanigan, Alonso, Maloney and Arroyo
for Lester.
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
You'll feel silly when Maloney wins the Cy Young Award.
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I will indeed
because that means hell will have frozen over and I’ll have lots of shit I’d swore I’d do.
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
want to make a bet on whether or not Maloney wins a Cy Young before 2030?
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you have in mind there Fish?
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
avitar bet?
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by justin007000 on Mar 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure.
Hell, I’ll even make an avatar bet.
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by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd bet a motorcycle on this?!?
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 13, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he'll be 33 at the end of it?
That’s…a bold move
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
and Gomes picked off first leaning the wrong way.
I would suggest that places him in the directionally challenged group.
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
Just pat him on the head for getting on base.
Good job, Mr. Colorful.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Mar 13, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the pitcher threw four straight balls.
Still, that would be a foreign concept to END.
You're never as bad as you look when you lose. You're never as good as you look when you win.
Hanigan's deal:
$350K signing bonus
$450K this year
$1.2 m in 2012
$2.05 m in 2013
There are 800K worth of escalators and performance bonuses included.
Seems pretty reasonable to me.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS BUY-OUT YEARS
he obviously doesn’t want to be a True Red.
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
He won't hit FA until he's 34.
Sucks to make the bigs so late.
"Penus, stale beer, and day old hot dogs. Love it"--justin007000
that clearly didn't work out as sarcastically as I'd like
still, doesn’t sound like a bad deal for either party.
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
So... trade Monie or:
2012-2013 = Hanigan/Mesoraco; Grandal emergency
2013- = Mesoraco/Grandal / till one gets expensive or is traded.
That seems EXTREMELY cheap to me.
So much so that I believe it positively impacts his trade value.
I CHUBB WHEN STUBBS CLUBBS!
by PeteyHendrix on Mar 13, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
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