RR Community Prospect Rankings: And down the stretch they come!
by nycredsfan on Feb 4, 2011 10:07 AM EST
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Print*Ed. note: Sorry this is late. This time it was SBN's fault, not mine!
Well, this is it. We're down to our last spot on the list. This is your last chance to make a case for a guy you think will be a legit player. Let us hear who deserves the spot!
Oh, yeah, Neftali Soto gets spot #24. Apparently many of you think the offense is still there and we shouldn't give up on him. In my humble opinion, if he ends up at 1B he's not much of a prospect, but as a 3B or even corner OF there might be something there. Either way, this is a very big year for him. A third straight mediocre year will probably seal his status as an ex-prospect.
OK, no new prospects but plenty of intriguing guys still on the board, so vote!
Daniel Corcino, RHP
John Sickels Rank: n/a
2010 RR CPR Rank: n/a
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed by Reds in 2008 from the Dominican Republic
Highest Level Played: Dayton (A)
2010 Statistics:
Billings (Rookie): 9 G, 9 GS, 1-3, 3.40 ERA, 39.2 IP, 31 K, 17 BB, 1.39 WHIP
Dayton (A): 6 G, 6 GS, 1-1, 4.31 ERA, 31.1 IP, 29 K, 15 BB, 1.47 WHIP
Juan Duran, OF
John Sickels Rank: n/a
2010 RR CPR Rank: n/a
Age: 19
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of the Dominican Republic in 2008
Highest Level Played: Billings (Rookie)
2010 Statistics:
Dayton (A): 54 G, 201 AB, 6 HR, 25 RBI, 2 SB, .244/.309/.393/.702
DiDi Gregorius, SS
John Sickels Rank: n/a
2010 RR CPR Rank: n/a
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of the Netherlands in 2008
Highest Level Played: Lynchburg (A+)
2010 Statistics:
Dayton (A): 120 G, 501 AB, 5 HR, 41 RBI, 16 SB, .273/.327/.379/.706
Lynchburg (A+): 7 G, 25 AB, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB, .240/.321/.240/.561
Jordan Hotchkiss, RHP
John Sickels Rank: NA
2010 RR CPR Rank: NA
Age: 25
Draft/Acquisition Details: 31st round, Reds, 2007
Highest Level Played: Carolina (AA)
2010 Statistics:
Lynchburg (A+): 31 G, 15 GS, 10-4, 2.30 ERA, 113.2 IP, 90 K, 31 BB, 1.03 WHIP
Carolina (AA): 3 G, 3 GS, 0-1, 3.38 ERA, 16 IP, 11 K, 6 BB, 1.31 WHIP
Felix Perez, OF
John Sickels Rank: n/a
2010 RR CPR Rank: n/a
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed in 2010 out of the Dominican Republic
Highest Level Played: Carolina (AA)
2010 Statistics:
Dominican Summer League (DSL): 16 G, 63 AB, 1 HR, 14 RBI, 2 SB, .429/.486/.587/1.073
Lynchburg (A+): 16 G, 65 AB, 0 HR, 9 RBI, 1 SB, .338/.397/.462/859
Carolina (AA): 35 G, 139 AB, 2 HR, 11 RBI, 8 SB, .266/.325/.360/.685
Philippe-Alexandre Valiquette, LHP
John Sickels Rank: NA
2010 RR CPR Rank: NA
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: 7th round, Reds, 2004
Highest Level Played: Louisville (AAA)
2010 Statistics:
Carolina (AA): 25 G, 2-0, 3.99 ERA, 29.1 IP, 21 K, 16 BB, 1.70 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 29 G, 2-1, 4.29 ERA, 35.2 IP, 31 K, 14 BB, 1.35 WHIP
David Vidal, INF
John Sickels Rank: n/a
2010 RR CPR Rank: n/a
Age: 21
Draft/Acquisition Details: 8th round, Reds, 2010
Highest Level Played: Dayton (A)
2010 Statistics:
AZL Reds (Rookie): 36 G, 145 AB, 6 HR, 34 RBI, 0 SB, .297/.354/.538/.892
Billings (Rookie): 8 G, 29 AB, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB, .172/.273/.172/.445
Dayton (A): 4 G, 13 AB, 0 HR, 2 RBI, 0 SB, .154/.313/.231/.544
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Duran
He’ll rocket through the system after converting to pitching.
by Brian B on Feb 4, 2011 10:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He'll be kind of a Mike Leake type.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
by crolfer on Feb 4, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It'll be interesting to see if he can locate like Leake
Bart: "Dad, what's a Muppet?"
Homer: "Well, it's not quite a mop, not quite a puppet, but man... (laughs, then pauses) So, to answer you question, I don't know."
What does everyone see in Gregorious other than his kickass name?
I don’t get it…
and look at his freaking profile picture on facebook… is that him? Can someone please explain this to me?
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
It's pretty much just about the name
DiDi? That’s awesome. Could be Kong or Ramone or Gregorious…
Does WAR take this into account?
His real first name is "Mariekson"
Much, much cooler.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I voted for DiDi
every single time. It that’s not a ringing endorsement, then I don’t know what is.
Instead …. noooooooooooooooo …. ‘creds asks us to make a case for our choice.
I already did.
It’s DiDi, DumDum.
Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
Even cooler than that
His full name is Mariekson Julius Gregorious. Sounds like he and his legions should killing a bunch of Goths or defying the emperor. If I had a name that cool I would always go by my full name.
by The Duke on Feb 4, 2011 2:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
he needs a better graphic designer
"College actually kind of beat that out of me, making me more, well, of an asshole."
I have to say, it's pretty incredible that we are on #25 and there are so many good players left.
None of these guys are great prospects, but there isn’t a single “filler” player on this list either. This system is remarkably deep.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Are we going to have some honorable mention polls or something too?
There are still a bunch of guys left that have a shot at producing. Including some guys that aren’t even listed yet- It’s a pretty nice system.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I'm struck by Perez and Duran still hanging around
two international prospects who commanded (or would have commanded in Perez’s case) multimillion dollar bonuses. Perez’s sudden aging cuts into his value, as does Duran’s lack of production in the low minors, but I still think they’d both be Top 10, top 20 in a lot of other systems.
The Reds need to keep stocking the farm and pulling the trigger a little bit earlier on extensions for the future Bruces and Cuetos. It’s still a guessing game when they get to the majors, but having 3-5 seasons of close observation should give them a decent success rate. Increased attendance should give them a better margin for error – and hopefully not tempt them to stray too far into free agent waters.
Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I can't bring myself to vote for Perez
if he OPS’d .685 in AA as a 26 yr old.
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
.684
Get it right or pay the price. It’s only 35 games. AA can be a big jump for anyone just getting into pro baseball, 26 or not. I’m willing to give him a chance based on talent.
But I agree, he’s too old to flounder at that level. Probably doesn’t belong in the Top 25, but I’m blinded by his pedigree and the fact that I’m reading Three Trapped Tigers.
Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, fair enough
In my defense, it’s listed as .685 in the above post. Aren’t there supposed to be editors around to catch that sort of thing? OH WAIT.
But seriously, you’re right about the pedigree. I guess there are people like Angel Pagan and Andres Torres (and Jose Bautista, in a different way) that are late bloomers/late arrivals and can contribute. But time is most definitely running out
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
Not really
By filler I mean “organizational filler”, as in guys who will never make it to the bigs and are just keeping a spot warm in AA. Both of those guys have at least reasonable expectations of making the bigs. I personally think DiDi is kind of filler, but he’s too young to say for sure right now.
The point is, all of these guys have a legit shot at the bigs someday. A few of them have significant upside. That’s not super easy to find at spot #25 in most systems.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
Perez is 26 and has played 1 pro season
6 guys would have to get hurt before he could hold down a roster spot just on the bench. Hotchkiss has better performance, but it’s because he’s going to have his first real go at AA at 25 years old. Guys like that can make a big league roster as the last guy in a weakish bullpen, but that’s basically what I call filler.
I agree that it’s nice to have guys who could possibly make the bigs someday 25-deep in the system. I disagree that we are 25-deep in legit prospects (guys who have a halfway decent shot at being average MLB players).
Has anyone seen the wacky cartoon at Letsgotribe.com?
Its bizarre. Its about Bavasi talking about Rolen and Arroyo to an alien. Im not sure of the meaning behind it.
That was really strange
I can’t figure out why an Indians site would be interested in Bavasi and Arroyo, who have never worked for the Indians, or really had much to do with them at all. It’s not like we are divison rivals or anything. I can’t name halfa dozen Indians players off the top of my head, and I sure as heck don’t know anything about any of their Special Assistants to the General Manager, nor would I dream of creating a meandering cartoon based on some off the cuff remark by one.
Here is a shot of one panel:
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 4, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Well, it's not terrible or anything, just strange
I mean, I’m barely aware of Bill Bavasi, and he works for my team. I’m just amazed there is someone out there who cares that much about him to create strange comics about his encounters with extra terrestrials.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 4, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that was basically the "eh" from my comment, haha.
It really was well done though. It was just really from waaaaaaaay out in left field.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
I'd jusge, but there's that thing about throwing stones in glass houses
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Thought it was funny and tweeted it
Compared to underground comix, that thing was straight up Archie & Veronica.
Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
If I had the skillz, I would make a weekly Bronson webcomic. Dude is just ripe for such parody.
“Check out my tux! That’s what I call any suit.”
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I would like to encourage you to do so
but can only offer “amoral support.”
Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I can't figure out why this guy or anyone cares about Bavasi
Nobody in any of those comics have anything to do with the Braves… I just don’t get it.
But as a Reds fan like myself. I thought they were about a 3 on a 1-10 humor scale. 1 being the Tavaras ‘deal’ and 10 being END’s defense at third base.
"Never fight a land war in Asia"
Save a Prayer for Juan Duran Duran, because he is Hungry Like the Wolf
The Reflex made me vote for the Notorious Felix Perez, but I felt So Misled afterwards.
I think I will go watch some Girls on Film while I try to Hold Back the Rain.
OK, I am stopping this nonsense now. I think I need to find a New Religion.
Or even if I just like such as judged a fish contest that would get me outta the house and in some air.
by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Feb 4, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Anyone read this yet?
BLS linked it today. From Royals Authority, a possible explanation for the year of the pitcher. It may not really explain anything but an interesting read nonetheless.
Watch it, ass blood.
by -ManBearPig on Feb 4, 2011 12:11 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
wow, that's really interesting
I’m surprised we didn’t hear more about it. It’s kind of a big deal, considering that the last such change was in 1895.
And what’s that about a “density change”?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Maybe the density change would be to restrict the use of "harder" bats like maple?
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
Yeah, that is interesting
Though it might not be meaningful. I have no idea whether players were already using the max sized bat.
by ken on Feb 4, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
he addresses some of the comments at the bottom of the post
He says 35% of players used the max diameter and would presumably be affected.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
what the heck happened to SB Nation last night?
Collapsing under the weight Super Bowl hype?
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There was a big system update early this morning
What’s going on?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
when I got up this morning
Commenting was disabled. Also, there were no new comments posted since the previous evening, which I’ve never seen before. Leading me to believe that commenting had been disabled last night as well. I could be mistaken about that.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
I think the update was from 4-6
If you were up that early, that would probably explain it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I checked
at about 7:30, and commenting was disabled.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
There were also some site issues after the update
Not sure if the two were connected or not.
Need the number of that store where they make ceramics in an oven made out of damaged circus supplies. It's called Rumpled Stilts Kiln. - Jon Wurster
by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Feb 4, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this post was scheduled to go up at 8, but it didnt
Then I stupidly spent an hour re-writing and trying to post it.
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
by nycredsfan on Feb 4, 2011 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's OK. It's Friday.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Feb 4, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
And I ain't got shit to do?
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
SIS: UFO Edition
I found a pretty compelling video of a UFO a couple days ago. It takes place at The Dome on the Rock. Since it’s a pretty slow news week for Reds fans… I wanted to share something controversial.
There are multiple videos posted of this single event, here are two side by side.
So, What do you think RR? Could we be drafting players from outside our galaxy in the near future? I read online that no living creature could withstand such G-force, and that it was likely an unmanned drone. I agree that it researches the area and then leaves.
Also the dome on the rock had just installed some gigantic transformers for unknown reasons only days before. Maybe they were curious like myself abut the upgrade.
"Never fight a land war in Asia"
I would say, be very skeptical
of any creature that wears a cap that isn’t red.
Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
The key word here is ...
“almost”
Which means there is still an outside possibility that Heathcliff Slocumb is driving the limo.
Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
by johnu1 on Feb 4, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's a hoax
It’s ridiculously easy to fake stuff like that these days, with video editing software.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
You could make a CGI film seem convincing with lot of things
that doesn’t mean that everything that could be made by a computer, which is almost everything, is definitely fake.
Independence day was fake, This is real. I think.
"Never fight a land war in Asia"
Wrong
Independence Day was a documentary, and the events occurred in real time.
Welcome ta Earf.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I still would like to know how he flew the alien ship
Just not very realistic. lol.
"Never fight a land war in Asia"
I think it's fake
For reasons listed in ashersky’s link.
I’m sure a CGI studio would have make it more realistic. This looks like something someone created in his parents’ basement with a pirated copy of Adobe Premiere.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
It's the queers! They're in it with the aliens! They're building landing strips for gay Martians! I swear to God!
"He’s like if Ron Gant and Eric Davis had a white baby." -- GlennBraggsSwingAndMissBrokenBat on Drew Stubbs
YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT SUX?
I will tell yo what sux.
Russ Springer retires and it barely gets a mention on RR.
Andy Petittittte retires and it’s national damned news.
Now I ax you … is that fair?
Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5. I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
oh, and nationals follow their nix signing by taking another of our former family members...
by Rearviewmirror on Feb 4, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
They're family is like the shunned cousins that we don't like anymore.
"People don't kill people. Burning oreo packages kill people."
the Cards
might be saying the same thing about the Reds.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
The difference is they take their old, busted players back after we're done with them
Edmonds, Miles
see what I did there with uzr? it’s like a LOL cats saber-pun combo.--Verka Serduchka
thank gawd the Reds didnt take back LaWhiff!
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
That's pretty rough
even by your standards, ’nuke.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 4, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that new film The Roommate is based on this
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
when the reds going to STL?
I’d like to see Jimmy E play in Busch while drinking a Bud Select and digesting some Imo’s pizza. I’d love to see Dusty bring in Aroldis to face him in a late inning at bat.
I’m now very happy his jersey wasnt on sale at Redsfest. He’s dead to me.
"Yahan Sentona's strikeouts are way down this year" Jake Liscow
was he ever alive to any of us?
Joey Votto on Colin Cowherd: "I don’t know who he is"
by UncleWeez on Feb 5, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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